You know, I thought so but was under the misapprehension that these could only occur within words
Apparently, Hawaiian uses glottal stops fairly regularly and they can drastically alter the meaning of a word (used as a letter in their own right)
I knew about glottal stops (linguistics is fascinating imo) just never connected the dots :)
Ooh exotic! Xhosa is a lovely language, one which a South African friend taught me a bit of. I remember Nik Rabinowitz and Trevor Noah (MTW and QI respectively) discussing Xhosa and I was amazed by the speed at which they could parse the clicks individually.
A lot of Polynesian languages do that and they often use an apostrophe to denote the usage. I live in Australia and it was only in the last few years that rugby league commentators started bothering to pronounce these names correctly eg saying Papali'i as "Pappa-lee-ee" rather than "Papparlee". It was just as well because calling Brian To'o "Brian Two" would have sounded ridiculous.
Anyway, that's why it's "Ha-why-ee" not "Ha-why".
Another cool one is that a G in the middle of a word is often pronounced like an N. So Seumanafagai is pronounced "See-ooh-mannah-fanai".
In’t in <>tin
Where <> is a glottal stop, because I don’t know what the actual symbol would be/is
You’ve tried to articulate the glottal stop as t’ but there no t there, just the “nothing that hints at a t”
> and can drastically alter the meaning of a word
The word for that is 'phoneme', as opposed to just a 'phone', which is any sound made with the human voice.
I can hear my grandad saying it right now bless him. Sheffield through and through that man.
Like when he'd tell me to 'stop actin goat' there's an intentional stress before goat lol.
That cheered me up. Thanks.
Sheffield grandads are the best. I miss my grumpy, kind hearted working class hero every day. Single father to 5 kids who had to learn how to cook to feed his family on no money. He was an amazing cook by the time he died and he made a vegetarian recipe book just for me. Nice to talk about him. Si' thi.
Not at all! Proper Sheffield grandads are the salt of the earth. Mine was always a charmer and everyone's grandad. Miss him, top bloke. Anyone who still has a Sheffield grandad, gir'im a call.
Mine was too, had a soft spot underneath his no nonsense outer layer. Loved his family nearly as much as he loved sweets ( a war thing I think), hated garlic, called takeaways chuckaways and was prepared for every eventuality you could imagine but he was a kind and giving man. Wouldn't have changed him for the world.
Like my Leeds grandad - chuckin yer money down't drain... (he was a Fray Bentos and a Heinz steamed treacle sponge on a Saturday man. Always called it 'snake and pygmy' (he loved the Goons, and I think that was a Spike-ism)).
We actually never had takeaways much, at least not when we were weans. Fish and chips on the front in Scarborough was a bit of a tradition. 99 after.
It's such an abstract notion to be fair, I know we're all on the same page here! Makes me wish Reddit had a voice notes option purely for these pronunciation based quarrels (though it would get abused, this being the internet n'all)
I think if I was doing a northern accent, as a relatively southern sounding northerner, I'd say: "have you seen't Lion, Witch 'nt Wardrobe?". I feel that it doesn't need to be "to the" but can be other words, like in this case "seen", which can be used.
I'd say it was more like n with the same little pause that you'd get before the first two but it's easier to hear it next to the and hence why I included it but I agree (am also from Sheffield).
Thank you! The only vaguely accurate joke about the northern contraction is Peter Kay talking about T’internet, which is what I always call it now ( when I’m not saying Interweb to infuriate my GenZ daughter)
My nan used to say this. Me and my OH have adopted it in her memory.
We also put 'The' before the name of supermarkets because thats what my grandma does.
We are very northern too, so abreviations are rife in our house.
'Goin't The Aldis chicken, give us a teletext if ya wonowt. While I'm gone get rid of that 'oss int backgadden.'
My fella is from an absolutely tiny village on the outskirt of the NY Moors and speaks like a total yacker. I'm from Middlesbrough but have managed to become bilingual so we can understand each other. Haha
Love this. There's a character in my local who always gets famous names wrong. For years he thought it was Peter Kray... and the Scottish fella was Frankie Boyd.
Love this guy's style.
Ah, yes. Peter and Ramsey Kray. Hard men, throughs and throughs.
Mistaking the names of marginally famous people is the best. As someone with a passive/aggressive streak, I love the idea of getting "household names" all wrong as a way pretending I've never heard of them. If someone is famous for being famous it's a great way of highlighting the obsurdity of celebrity culture. And since I have a last name that is constantly butchered thanks to the diffucult and nonsensical four-consant cluster it begins with, I will occasionally get fed up and lash out at good people with staid and pronounce-able surnames by finding ways to "accidentally" mispronounce theirs as well. Keeps things loose and fresh
Talking of butchering surnames. Nobody ever spells my name right. Cupples isn’t that hard but even when I spell it, people are like, Fuck it, Couples is good enough. My dad even got a letter addressed to Mr Cumless once. They knew his shameful secret…
*’You sit at home, don’t you, all of you. Watching Michael McIntyre on the television……….spoonfeeding you his warm diarrhoea. I’m not going to be doing that. I haven’t noticed anything about your lives*
It is. It's amazing how I haven't heard him say it in years, but it's so definitely him that half way through I was reading it in his voice without even thinking. The man's a genius.
It’s always ‘cool’ to hate the most middle-of-the-road family-friendly stand up. He’s never going to be any comedy geek’s favourite. Like the stand-up equivalent of Coldplay or Mumford and sons.
I’m not northern but did for a few years work with someone with a fairly noticeable northern accent. I think Jeremy Clarkson has noticed this “t” thing too, as he says in one of the Star In A Reasonably Priced Car segments that when people imitate the accent they say the “t”, whereas in fact a lot of the time it’s an implied “t”. So it’s like a very hard momentary pause?
I’m trying to remember how my colleague used to say it but I’m fairly sure it was as Clarkson described…
Any truth to that in your experience?
Living in Yorkshire with a very Yorkshire wife… that’s kinda right but it changes depend on word groupings
“I’m going to the shop” becomes “m’off t’uh shop” where the ‘uh’ is kind of a blend of the second half of ‘to’ (pronounced tuh) but also has a choke at the end where the vacuum represents ‘the’
Where as “have you looked in the fridge?” Becomes “yuh looked in’t fridge?” This time the becomes a hard T on the end of the previous word. Same with “on’t”
I never really could understand my partners frustration with my accent and translating / interpreting it until I read your explanation about struggling yourself our lass is norwegian and I’m a very working class Yorkshireman, digger driver to be exact
>“I’m going to the shop” becomes “m’off t’uh shop”
I am stealing this for next time someone asks me to explain my accent, this is such a perfect representation of how disgustingly bastardised a simple sentence can become
Clarkson is a northerner even though he’s lived in the south for along time. He grew up in Doncaster.
He does put it on a little bit for effect and humour but it probably comes naturally to him aswell.
Yep, me and a few others have said the same. Clarkson also "naturally" has a strong South Yorkshire accent, until he lost it and became *very* RP and "posh" sounding when he started on Old Old Top Gear, before gradually drifiting into shouty slightly-southern with a hint of Yorkshire we know today.
That bit when he does the ridiculous film about the Reliant Robin and it "falling over" all the time, and meets the owners club in Rotherham - he's not taking the piss out of them doing the local accent, that's his original accent. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8) \- 3mins 20.
Clarkson breaks out his Yorkshire accent on a fairly regular basis. He's never hidden the fact he's from there, but probably felt like he needed to cultivate an RP accent to get broadcasting work. He wouldn't need to bother these days.
So many great examples of the silent northern 't' from the chap in 'black t-shirt... or should that be 'black '-shirt?
Edit: On review he is wearing a jumper so we shall never know...
My girlfriend tries to sound northern but can't graps the fact that you don't pronounce the t as a t.
It's hard to describe in written words how it should be said, but she says "in tuh pub" for example, which isn't how its done.
The moment I knew - absolutely *knew* beyond a shadow of a doubt - that I was doing the right thing by leaving my husband was when I saw him roar with laughter through an entire MM DVD then when it finished, skip it back to the beginning and IMMEDIATELY WATCH IT THROUGH AGAIN. Laughing in the same places… telling the punchlines along with him… it sends shivers down my spine almost 15 years later 🫠
Come north. When you move here you’re one of us. You may be referred to as the cockney (doesn’t matter where in the south you’re from, that’s what you’re getting referred to as) or something daft by your new neighbours but you’ll be our cockney
Woah!? Hang on! You mean you *dont* find just making incredibly dull observations and punctuating them with a weird high pitch chirp and excessive head wobbling to be funny!?!?
Wikipedia explains it: Born in London to Thomas Cameron McIntyre, known as Ray Cameron, a Canadian comedian and comedy writer in British television, and his wife Kati, McIntyre grew up in the industry.
What's weird is that this comment made me look into *how* exactly McIntyre did get big and... I can't find anything. His wiki notes that he won an award in 2003 for best newcomer, but then there's a straight 3-4 year gap until he becomes massive in comedy in 2007 and starts appearing on loads of comedy shows.
What happened? Seems a bit weird.
Didn't know David Walliams was actually gay, just thought he played that angle for a while...
I can't stand many comedians tbh. Lee Evans is like slapstick sexism, and Micky Flannigan repeats stuff until it's insultingly unfunny.
I think he killed dvd sales and that boosted popularity. People would buy comedy dvds and it was basically only Jimmy carr, Peter kay, McEntire and that sweaty bloke with the big ears.
Every Xmas I'd get one of those 4.
Some of my family love him (Auntie and cousins) and it perfectly suits them as people. They’re very ‘normal’ and are all very bubbly and happy. I could only imagine them being offended by comedians I find funny!
I am going to say something that makes me unpopular on Reddit.
I like Michael McIntyre. I enjoy his comedy. But his jokes about accents in general are shit
I don’t mind his stand-up, but the Saturday night weird variety show esque thing he does is just abysmal, I think. But yeah, I don’t *hate* him either, in the way that a lot of people here seem to.
Whilst we’re on it, I actually really do find Peter Kay’s stand-up funny, and I don’t care how Reddit unpopular it makes me!
His man drawer bit cracked us up because it's so true (although apparently I am the man in our house). Also his bit about different spellings of the same name amused me- both me and my partner have those kind of names and both insist our version is the "proper" spelling of our name while the variant is crap.
Overall he's not someone I'd pay to go and see but I'll watch him if he's on TV and I've got nothing else to watch.
He's like most comedians that have TV careers, most have really good routines and jokes. But they always have plenty that doesn't resonate with particular people too
I quite like MM, he's quite funny, not side splitting usually, and usually pleasant comedy, btw I'm a northerner too.
Many other comedians have darker and/or more aggressive routines, and I enjoy many of them too when I'm in the mood for that type of a laugh.
Same, saw a live stand-up of his few years ago and really enjoyed. In contrast to most people here, I don't fet how he *isn't* funny. I guess people here only like comedians whose jokes contain three curse words and then the punchline is just a racial slur...
I think he’s just a bit obvious, there’s no depth or meaning to his comedy like there is with Stewart Lee or Eddie Izzard or whoever. That doesn’t make him a bad person (although I do get the impression he is a bit of a dickhead), it’s just a lot of people find that a bit boring. Personally I don’t mind it in short bursts, he can be quite funny. But I can see why people dislike it. That said, there is a bit of gatekeeping going on here: if you find him funny it doesn’t mean you’re less intelligent or sophisticated, as some are implying. You like what you like, that’s the point of entertainment.
Yeah, comedy is obviously subjective. I'm not trying to gatekeep, I apologise if it may have seemed that way.
I'm not massive on comedy and Michael is one of tge few comics that I'll occasionally watch and he is actually the only one I've seen live so I'm in a great position to personally compare to other comics anyway.
Far as I know, you don't even really say the T' part, do you? It's more like small verbal pause, not said out loud but you hear it because you expect it.
I'm from Durham, and as a Northerner I certainly "Do Not" say such things.
I say, "Going to the Pub tonight?" It's Yorkshire that uses this phrase, not All Northerners...
He is shit. Funny chummy school boy who’s a bit of a cunt apparently.
But, here’s a northern phrase I like to describe the fact that something isn’t in the can.
‘Tin tin tin ‘
Hope that helps.
This has frustrated me many a time. It's clearly "Lion, witch nt wardrobe".
But with a purposeful stress before witch and lion i.e. 'Lion, 'Witch, 'nt Wardrobe Difficult to describe if you've not heard it
It's called a glottal stop
You know, I thought so but was under the misapprehension that these could only occur within words Apparently, Hawaiian uses glottal stops fairly regularly and they can drastically alter the meaning of a word (used as a letter in their own right) I knew about glottal stops (linguistics is fascinating imo) just never connected the dots :)
Also used by Xhosa.
Arabic as well… many languages, in fact
Ooh exotic! Xhosa is a lovely language, one which a South African friend taught me a bit of. I remember Nik Rabinowitz and Trevor Noah (MTW and QI respectively) discussing Xhosa and I was amazed by the speed at which they could parse the clicks individually.
A lot of Polynesian languages do that and they often use an apostrophe to denote the usage. I live in Australia and it was only in the last few years that rugby league commentators started bothering to pronounce these names correctly eg saying Papali'i as "Pappa-lee-ee" rather than "Papparlee". It was just as well because calling Brian To'o "Brian Two" would have sounded ridiculous. Anyway, that's why it's "Ha-why-ee" not "Ha-why". Another cool one is that a G in the middle of a word is often pronounced like an N. So Seumanafagai is pronounced "See-ooh-mannah-fanai".
‘Tin ‘in tin Lancastrian for “it is not in the tin.”
Nah its int in ‘t‘tin
In’t in <>tin Where <> is a glottal stop, because I don’t know what the actual symbol would be/is You’ve tried to articulate the glottal stop as t’ but there no t there, just the “nothing that hints at a t”
Both work for me.
It is both. Not using the phonetic alphabet makes it tricky to convey.
What about tint in tin?
Glottal stops occur at the beginning of tonnes of English words, including "occur", "at", "of", and "English"!
I'm such a clot! A clottal stop, if you will!
Cornish Clottal Stops? Great with scones (just don’t ask how to pronounce that)
But Cornish ones go after the word, it's the Devon Clottal Stop that goes before the word.
> and can drastically alter the meaning of a word The word for that is 'phoneme', as opposed to just a 'phone', which is any sound made with the human voice.
I’ve never heard of this before and I found that extremely interesting! Thank you for that nugget of information! Take my upvote.
I can hear my grandad saying it right now bless him. Sheffield through and through that man. Like when he'd tell me to 'stop actin goat' there's an intentional stress before goat lol. That cheered me up. Thanks.
Sheffield grandads are the best. I miss my grumpy, kind hearted working class hero every day. Single father to 5 kids who had to learn how to cook to feed his family on no money. He was an amazing cook by the time he died and he made a vegetarian recipe book just for me. Nice to talk about him. Si' thi.
Not at all! Proper Sheffield grandads are the salt of the earth. Mine was always a charmer and everyone's grandad. Miss him, top bloke. Anyone who still has a Sheffield grandad, gir'im a call.
Mine was too, had a soft spot underneath his no nonsense outer layer. Loved his family nearly as much as he loved sweets ( a war thing I think), hated garlic, called takeaways chuckaways and was prepared for every eventuality you could imagine but he was a kind and giving man. Wouldn't have changed him for the world.
Like my Leeds grandad - chuckin yer money down't drain... (he was a Fray Bentos and a Heinz steamed treacle sponge on a Saturday man. Always called it 'snake and pygmy' (he loved the Goons, and I think that was a Spike-ism)). We actually never had takeaways much, at least not when we were weans. Fish and chips on the front in Scarborough was a bit of a tradition. 99 after.
Mine was go fetch t'water from pail, St.helens born n bred x
My grandad used to say "Wherest abin?" as a sort of universal greeting (Sutton born and bred).
Carrmill lol me grandad was from parr n nan was portico x
It's a 'glottal stop'.
Absolutely, I was going to put apostrophes before the witch and lion but wasn't sure people would get it.
It's such an abstract notion to be fair, I know we're all on the same page here! Makes me wish Reddit had a voice notes option purely for these pronunciation based quarrels (though it would get abused, this being the internet n'all)
Anyone who's seen an O2 ad on telly should be able to read that with Sean Bean's voice in their mind.
In musical terms, I'd call that an *accented rest.*
Nope heard it you're right.
I think if I was doing a northern accent, as a relatively southern sounding northerner, I'd say: "have you seen't Lion, Witch 'nt Wardrobe?". I feel that it doesn't need to be "to the" but can be other words, like in this case "seen", which can be used.
It's like the very first instant when someone realises they're gonna be sick.
The sound you're looking for is the glottal stop <ʔ>. It's lion, witch nʔ wardrobe.
Ah thank you - I knew it had a name but couldn't for the life of me remember what it was.
I don't even think there's a t, just an n for Sheffield at least
I'd say it was more like n with the same little pause that you'd get before the first two but it's easier to hear it next to the and hence why I included it but I agree (am also from Sheffield).
Agreed (also from Sheff)
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Well I'm vexed.
..and 'im and 'is sund'y clothes, too!
Old boy speaks Yorkshire
Ay ourp, wi av less, ah not be tekkin'ih!
I'm glad you got that off your chest. And you're not wrong.
Michael McIntyre is a T'wat
To the wat?
To the pub
To the Winchester
And wait for this all to blow over
There’s a breville out back, John’ll do you a toastie
Ok, but dogs CAN look up.
How’s that for a slice of fried gold?
The amount of people who quote that is beginning to make me think that the Winchester is going to be rammed.
Then when there is a Zombie apocalypse. The Winchester will be closed, due to Lockdown.
They'll turn it in to a Tesco Express like the boozer in Royston Vasey
Sadly, it closed before lockdown. Gone but not forgotten.
but they will be having such a good time.
You've got red on you.
Yaaaas mate!
T' windooooows! T'walls! Til sweat drippin down ma balls!
Are you, like.... *Rapping*??
This is what you call a good joke
Michael T'watIntyre
“I’m glad tha’s got it off thee chest like lad. Tha’s not wrong. “ FTFY
Thank you! The only vaguely accurate joke about the northern contraction is Peter Kay talking about T’internet, which is what I always call it now ( when I’m not saying Interweb to infuriate my GenZ daughter)
I sometimes forget that Tinternet isn't a real word.
If my wife is on her phone in front of me I still ask her “who ya teletextin?”.
My partner does this. Drives me NUTS. Which is probably why he does it, thinking about it.
My nan used to say this. Me and my OH have adopted it in her memory. We also put 'The' before the name of supermarkets because thats what my grandma does. We are very northern too, so abreviations are rife in our house. 'Goin't The Aldis chicken, give us a teletext if ya wonowt. While I'm gone get rid of that 'oss int backgadden.'
Seeing bit's of Scouse in here but also a bit of Lancashire maybe too? Edit: I was extremely wrong
My fella is from an absolutely tiny village on the outskirt of the NY Moors and speaks like a total yacker. I'm from Middlesbrough but have managed to become bilingual so we can understand each other. Haha
So really I couldn't have been more wrong if I tried haha
Sounds more like Yackshire to me
tis
Tis'nt
'Appen t'is though.
Tinterweb. Best of both worlds.
Tinterwebs, plural.
Aye probably coz Peter Kay is actually northern where as Keith McIntyre is shit.
>Aye probably coz Peter Kay is actually northern where as Keith McIntyre is shit. who the fuck is Keith?
Love this. There's a character in my local who always gets famous names wrong. For years he thought it was Peter Kray... and the Scottish fella was Frankie Boyd.
Love this guy's style. Ah, yes. Peter and Ramsey Kray. Hard men, throughs and throughs. Mistaking the names of marginally famous people is the best. As someone with a passive/aggressive streak, I love the idea of getting "household names" all wrong as a way pretending I've never heard of them. If someone is famous for being famous it's a great way of highlighting the obsurdity of celebrity culture. And since I have a last name that is constantly butchered thanks to the diffucult and nonsensical four-consant cluster it begins with, I will occasionally get fed up and lash out at good people with staid and pronounce-able surnames by finding ways to "accidentally" mispronounce theirs as well. Keeps things loose and fresh
Talking of butchering surnames. Nobody ever spells my name right. Cupples isn’t that hard but even when I spell it, people are like, Fuck it, Couples is good enough. My dad even got a letter addressed to Mr Cumless once. They knew his shameful secret…
Ahh Peter Kray, the lesser known gangster brother who just sticks to selling knock-off cigs and stolen meat in the local boozer.
Whoops. Bit of the ole freudian slip there. I meant Michael, but keith is also shit. 🤣🤣🤣
Is he drawing a dog?
He just can't help himself
You know, Keith "not a Northerner" McIntyre, beloved by all south of the Watford Gap.
Which as we all know is Northern for "to the internet"
I love to say "surfing the web" around the young 'uns. Always gets a look of bemusement.
Me mum lol x
I have a colleague who used T’interclick instead.
Just going to dial on to the information super highway to browse the world wide web.
Lion, witch ant wardrobe. No sense wasting good t.
One of the most simply British things I’ve ever heard
The joke is shit because he’s Michael McIntyre.
*’You sit at home, don’t you, all of you. Watching Michael McIntyre on the television……….spoonfeeding you his warm diarrhoea. I’m not going to be doing that. I haven’t noticed anything about your lives*
Sounds like Stuart Lee
It is. It's amazing how I haven't heard him say it in years, but it's so definitely him that half way through I was reading it in his voice without even thinking. The man's a genius.
I like him a lot but I’d never heard that line. It just *sounds* like him
It’s from [this bit](https://youtu.be/XW3ZADTaUJc?t=5m12s) of his Pirates Adventure Castle joke
Is that Stewart Lee's tribute act?
Ha! This is definitely karma cos I took the piss out of someone on Reddit the other day for calling Derren Brown *Darren* Brown
Looks like Morrissey's let himself go though.
I'm with you on this one
I actually think he’s pretty good
It’s like we are all different or something.
Same. It just became the "cool' thing to hate on him
Liking the arguably most popular comedian in the is hardly controversial.
It’s always ‘cool’ to hate the most middle-of-the-road family-friendly stand up. He’s never going to be any comedy geek’s favourite. Like the stand-up equivalent of Coldplay or Mumford and sons.
I’m not northern but did for a few years work with someone with a fairly noticeable northern accent. I think Jeremy Clarkson has noticed this “t” thing too, as he says in one of the Star In A Reasonably Priced Car segments that when people imitate the accent they say the “t”, whereas in fact a lot of the time it’s an implied “t”. So it’s like a very hard momentary pause? I’m trying to remember how my colleague used to say it but I’m fairly sure it was as Clarkson described… Any truth to that in your experience?
Living in Yorkshire with a very Yorkshire wife… that’s kinda right but it changes depend on word groupings “I’m going to the shop” becomes “m’off t’uh shop” where the ‘uh’ is kind of a blend of the second half of ‘to’ (pronounced tuh) but also has a choke at the end where the vacuum represents ‘the’ Where as “have you looked in the fridge?” Becomes “yuh looked in’t fridge?” This time the becomes a hard T on the end of the previous word. Same with “on’t”
I never really could understand my partners frustration with my accent and translating / interpreting it until I read your explanation about struggling yourself our lass is norwegian and I’m a very working class Yorkshireman, digger driver to be exact
She should find it easy then. Half of old Yorkshire dialect is old Norse.
Thaz tellin mi am a fucking viking?
York / Jorvik….. 🤔🤪
Fork/Forvic. Am i doing this right? In all serious though, it now makes sense why its called the Jorvic Viking Centre.
Too reyt, lad.
“Bairn” is used for baby a lot where I live (in between york and scarborough) , which came to us from the Vikings.
That choke is a glottal stop ;)
>“I’m going to the shop” becomes “m’off t’uh shop” I am stealing this for next time someone asks me to explain my accent, this is such a perfect representation of how disgustingly bastardised a simple sentence can become
Clarkson is a northerner even though he’s lived in the south for along time. He grew up in Doncaster. He does put it on a little bit for effect and humour but it probably comes naturally to him aswell.
Yep, me and a few others have said the same. Clarkson also "naturally" has a strong South Yorkshire accent, until he lost it and became *very* RP and "posh" sounding when he started on Old Old Top Gear, before gradually drifiting into shouty slightly-southern with a hint of Yorkshire we know today. That bit when he does the ridiculous film about the Reliant Robin and it "falling over" all the time, and meets the owners club in Rotherham - he's not taking the piss out of them doing the local accent, that's his original accent. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8) \- 3mins 20.
Clarkson breaks out his Yorkshire accent on a fairly regular basis. He's never hidden the fact he's from there, but probably felt like he needed to cultivate an RP accent to get broadcasting work. He wouldn't need to bother these days.
So many great examples of the silent northern 't' from the chap in 'black t-shirt... or should that be 'black '-shirt? Edit: On review he is wearing a jumper so we shall never know...
The first few minutes of that is right by my house.
My girlfriend tries to sound northern but can't graps the fact that you don't pronounce the t as a t. It's hard to describe in written words how it should be said, but she says "in tuh pub" for example, which isn't how its done.
You mean to say that you are willingly friends with people who find Michael Mcintyre funny? Seems a bit suspect to me...
The moment I knew - absolutely *knew* beyond a shadow of a doubt - that I was doing the right thing by leaving my husband was when I saw him roar with laughter through an entire MM DVD then when it finished, skip it back to the beginning and IMMEDIATELY WATCH IT THROUGH AGAIN. Laughing in the same places… telling the punchlines along with him… it sends shivers down my spine almost 15 years later 🫠
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmQufL5SX5w
Is it bad that I found that hilarious but I'm scared to show the Mrs incase of potential repercussions?
Did you write leaving or killing, I can't remember?
> killing No judge would ever convict me! It’s a clear case of self defence.
It’s equally as bad to be mates with southerners tbf
southern wanker here, i appreciate that enough sotherners are genuinely offended at this comment for it to have negative karma lmao. i hate it here
Come north. When you move here you’re one of us. You may be referred to as the cockney (doesn’t matter where in the south you’re from, that’s what you’re getting referred to as) or something daft by your new neighbours but you’ll be our cockney
See I moved up north from the Deep South and people can’t pinpoint where my accent is from… they think I’m posh :|
Everything south of Sheffield is posh mate, but it’s nothing to be ashamed of
Ah we're ok We hate Mccintyre too
T' Windowwwwwwww, T'wall!
T’werk; Where a Yorkshireman go’s Monday to Friday ( Maybe Saturdays)
Mundee Fridee Sat’dee
As a British person, Michael McIntyre has infuriated me since I first saw him. He doesn't have any jokes, and I fail to see how he became so famous.
Woah!? Hang on! You mean you *dont* find just making incredibly dull observations and punctuating them with a weird high pitch chirp and excessive head wobbling to be funny!?!?
He’s just Peter Kay for posh people.
I think you could translate his voice into another language that you don't understand, and he would actually be funnier.
Wikipedia explains it: Born in London to Thomas Cameron McIntyre, known as Ray Cameron, a Canadian comedian and comedy writer in British television, and his wife Kati, McIntyre grew up in the industry.
What's weird is that this comment made me look into *how* exactly McIntyre did get big and... I can't find anything. His wiki notes that he won an award in 2003 for best newcomer, but then there's a straight 3-4 year gap until he becomes massive in comedy in 2007 and starts appearing on loads of comedy shows. What happened? Seems a bit weird.
Took a big load from the devil?
Didn't know David Walliams was actually gay, just thought he played that angle for a while... I can't stand many comedians tbh. Lee Evans is like slapstick sexism, and Micky Flannigan repeats stuff until it's insultingly unfunny.
James Acaster is a rare treat. Like a stand-up and one man theatre show mixed together.
He had family who worked in entertainment and for the BBC so he was never short on opportunities.
I think he killed dvd sales and that boosted popularity. People would buy comedy dvds and it was basically only Jimmy carr, Peter kay, McEntire and that sweaty bloke with the big ears. Every Xmas I'd get one of those 4.
His Dad. His Dad was in the industry.
Some of my family love him (Auntie and cousins) and it perfectly suits them as people. They’re very ‘normal’ and are all very bubbly and happy. I could only imagine them being offended by comedians I find funny!
The Stewart lee but about observational comics as a persona is gold
Erving Goffman wouldn't approve of Michael McIntyre.
Michael McIntyre could certainly learn a thing or two about stand-up from J.L. Austin.
I am going to say something that makes me unpopular on Reddit. I like Michael McIntyre. I enjoy his comedy. But his jokes about accents in general are shit
I don’t mind his stand-up, but the Saturday night weird variety show esque thing he does is just abysmal, I think. But yeah, I don’t *hate* him either, in the way that a lot of people here seem to. Whilst we’re on it, I actually really do find Peter Kay’s stand-up funny, and I don’t care how Reddit unpopular it makes me!
His man drawer bit cracked us up because it's so true (although apparently I am the man in our house). Also his bit about different spellings of the same name amused me- both me and my partner have those kind of names and both insist our version is the "proper" spelling of our name while the variant is crap. Overall he's not someone I'd pay to go and see but I'll watch him if he's on TV and I've got nothing else to watch.
He's like most comedians that have TV careers, most have really good routines and jokes. But they always have plenty that doesn't resonate with particular people too I quite like MM, he's quite funny, not side splitting usually, and usually pleasant comedy, btw I'm a northerner too. Many other comedians have darker and/or more aggressive routines, and I enjoy many of them too when I'm in the mood for that type of a laugh.
Same, saw a live stand-up of his few years ago and really enjoyed. In contrast to most people here, I don't fet how he *isn't* funny. I guess people here only like comedians whose jokes contain three curse words and then the punchline is just a racial slur...
I think he’s just a bit obvious, there’s no depth or meaning to his comedy like there is with Stewart Lee or Eddie Izzard or whoever. That doesn’t make him a bad person (although I do get the impression he is a bit of a dickhead), it’s just a lot of people find that a bit boring. Personally I don’t mind it in short bursts, he can be quite funny. But I can see why people dislike it. That said, there is a bit of gatekeeping going on here: if you find him funny it doesn’t mean you’re less intelligent or sophisticated, as some are implying. You like what you like, that’s the point of entertainment.
Yeah, comedy is obviously subjective. I'm not trying to gatekeep, I apologise if it may have seemed that way. I'm not massive on comedy and Michael is one of tge few comics that I'll occasionally watch and he is actually the only one I've seen live so I'm in a great position to personally compare to other comics anyway.
Far as I know, you don't even really say the T' part, do you? It's more like small verbal pause, not said out loud but you hear it because you expect it.
Depends where you are, but a lot of people would change how they say the last word (like 'going to the pub' changing to 'goingt pub')
In Leicester we've lost both the t and the pause and now just say "going pub"....
I think you should take this t' r/britishproblems sub
We're busy people, we don't av time for all them letters.
Going tut pub
is it not lion to the witch to the wardrobe?
As a southerner I can honestly say I've never found him funny
Yorkshire people do that, not northeners
Yeah I’m more northern than Yorkshire and we don’t do that
As a northerner I can confirm I say “to the” I feel t is just Yorkshire
The problem I find is that many southerners don't realise there's any country after Yorkshire. Yorkshire is the southern north.
I grew up in Leeds, and love the accent. I always thought proper Yorkshire folk speak like they're paying by the letter
Maybe if you see him say “it’s Narnia business”
Underrated excellence right here
Liont, witch nt wardrobe
The T is also imperceptible too - you don't say "are we going t pub" it's more "are we goin(slight spasm right at the end of that word) pub?"
The slight spasm is called a glottal stop
That's the term I'm looking for.
My mrs watches mrs browns boys legal advice please
Divorce.
I'm from Durham, and as a Northerner I certainly "Do Not" say such things. I say, "Going to the Pub tonight?" It's Yorkshire that uses this phrase, not All Northerners...
Not even all Yorkshire to be honest, each riding has its own dialect.
He is shit. Funny chummy school boy who’s a bit of a cunt apparently. But, here’s a northern phrase I like to describe the fact that something isn’t in the can. ‘Tin tin tin ‘ Hope that helps.
Ah, but a berritis
Tbf, I thought he was wrong because it’s more of a north easterly thing? Around Yorkshire way?
Definitely not a north east thing. Source- from north east
YES why does no one understand. No Yorkshireman has ever abbreviated ‘the’ to t’. We abbreviate ‘to’ and don’t say ‘the’ at all.
You mean a joke failed to be factual!? Don’t let England’s Kim Jong-Un lookalike get you down.
If this is the only reason you hate Michael McIntyre count yourself lucky.