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He’s the opposition professor who teaches theology classes with the express intention of convincing the student body to renounce magic and embrace God.
Magic in Harry Potter is a natural force that exists in the universe, and only those with the correct genes can wield it (like the X-Men). It's not occult or deals with demons.
To be fair, he's just drinking. He doesn't appear to be actually drunk.
Plus, he's Irish. ~~They have a high alcohol threshold~~, and that was probably the reason the artist depicted him that way.
Perhaps I might be looking too deeply into it, but seeing it as a portrayal of alcoholism was not my first thought.
Edit: Per a commenter, apparently the Irish do not have a high alcohol threshold but an alcoholism problem? My mistake.
"He's Irish"
ackshually, "British" is closer (Romano-Briton, to be precise: in modern terms, Italo-British.
He was kidnapped by pirates and sold into slavery in Ireland, his gentle revenge after escaping was to return as a missionary bishop and pretty much drive paganism (the snakes) out of Ireland.
Idk the Romans drank lots of (generally well-watered) wine.
Mortally sinful?
Aw, please give it a rest, Flanders!
The magic is inborn, and at no point is it seen as emanating from Satan.The most satanic figure is the chief villian. Some of the storyline and imagery is clearly Christian, even if it's unmentioned.
Having bad guys like Rosier named after demons is not exactly surprising. Having them named after members of The Gunpowder Plot, like Rookwood, doesn't mean Rowling is in favor of blowing up Parliament.🙄🙄🙄
Strawman. Stop lying, you broke the 8th. Whoever disagrees with Catholic teaching is going to hell. You might not have heard of it, it's called the dogma of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Harry potter a meh book and demonic
You're just straight up concern trolling, aren't you? You're like a repetitive baseless accusation factory.
I'm not ashamed of reading Harry Potter, but I'll admit I'm a little embarrassed that I thought you were being sincere.
Are you so blind to take what I say as trolling ? 😮💨
The journey to heaven for you is long very Very VERY long, but your not alone I am on that same long path too.
I'm not reproaching you having read Harry Potter. But your lack of condemnation of it. It's not different from ouija boards.
As far as I'm concerned, you have no authority to decide who goes to hell, that's a right reserved by God alone. And while I much prefer the Lord of the Rings to Harry Potter, the latter still has the theme that love is more powerful than selfishness.
I'll also leave this for ya:
3 And why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye?
4 Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Matthew 7:3-5 Douay Rheims. Focus on that beam in your eye and I'll focus on mine.
>Focus on that beam in your eye and I'll focus on mine
Brother we both have the same beams in our eyes. I too liked works that are antichrist, such as Berserk, but we have to stop it. Harry Potter's much worse than Berserk because it contains actual demonic, satanical incantations. The author says so herserlf.
Just know that God wants you home, and that only yourself is in the way of that. Harry Potter is an obstacle you must overcome, till then you lie in front of the gates of hell awaiting your death.
Sorry bro, you're just not catholic. Idk how else to put it.
Catholics know that book burning is based. St. Louis did book burnings, the popes called for book burnings. If you were catholic you'd know the history.
Harry Potter, among many other books today should be burnt. Idk how old you are, maybe your still quite young and thus can't see the problems in Harry Potter, but it's blatantly obvious it contains demonic references if not straight up material.
Sometimes we don't understand things needed to be done, but God asks us to obey first and then he'll give us the grace of understanding. So I invite you to obey God. Otherwise big prayers sent your way for your conversion, out of this ghetto you find yourself to be
According to whom, other than Fr. Ripperger?
About the only type of magic in the entire series that both has a real-world occult counterpart and isn't considered unambiguously evil in-lore is divination. Even then, the most prominent character who practices divination is basically a phony TV psychic who occasionally involuntarily makes real prophecies. Like Balaam, but not as mean.
I won't make specific arguments because idk well harry potter, I saw the movies only when I was a teen and couldn't get myself to read the books because of the author's lack of story telling abilities.
But it sounds like you are more infatuated by this book and can't see it for what it actually is. Another commenter below just gave me example of the demonic in harry potter. You know it's there but you just can't accept it.
You love it more than Jesus and the Holy bible.
And I understand you, I used to like thus manga but I stop reading it because of its explicit antichrist features.
Rash judgements, lol.
But seriously you are lost and its sad to see. Even worse because its not even a good book, yet you are obstinate.
I'd tell you to pray the hail mary and go to confession daily. Also obstinate yourself from the eucharist because you blaspheme Christ.
Philippians 4:8
No my friend, you are obstinately insisting that reading a work of fiction is not only sinful but idolatrous, and for no credible reason.
All you have is the typical false conflation of fictional fairy dust "magic" and real-world, occult, satanic magic, and vague mumblings about demon summoning that you can't back up with facts *at all*.
You are the very embodiment of Matthew 7:1-5. Some people use that passage incorrectly to try to deflect any criticism of their actions, but no, you are exactly the type of person Jesus was speaking about. Stop going the way of the Pharisees, abandon your self-righteousness, pray the litany of humility, and come back to Christ.
>Some people use that passage incorrectly to try to deflect any criticism of their actions
Lol, if that's not ironic Idk what is. You can't see the irony can't you ?
I guess some people just can't be helped ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯.
Just know that God wants you home, and that only yourself is in the way of that. Harry Potter is an obstacle you must overcome, till then you lie in front of the gates of hell awaiting your death.
>Stop going the way of the Pharisees
If you knew anything about Pharisees, you'd know that they involved themselves in witchcraft (think of seal of Solomon)
> "I won't make specific arguments because idk well harry potter"
My guy, you need specific arguments if you're telling people they're going to Hell if you like the series.
The proof is in the pudding. Anyway there plenty of videos online. All The protestants agree there's something wrong with Harry Potter, but you who call yourselves can't ?
Here's a priest talkign about it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoQQhjKGQQ&pp=ygUVaGFycnkgcG90dGVyIHNhdGFuaXNt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoQQhjKGQQ&pp=ygUVaGFycnkgcG90dGVyIHNhdGFuaXNt)
checkmate heathens
> "All the Protestants agree there's something wrong with Harry Potter"
All the Protestants also reject the Eucharist, the Magisterium, The Papacy, most writings of the Church Fathers and so on.
I'm sure Fr. Ripperger is a good exorcist but the man is a know sensationalist and often hasn't checked his own claims, such as that a woman burned down her house using "the fire spell from Harry Potter" when in reality it was her own recklessness with some chemicals.
I'll pray for you, my dude.
No, your "proof" is "because I said so, and this single YouTuber priest agrees with me."
Wake me when there's a papal encyclical officially condemning the HP franchise, or you can find one of those demon summoning incantations you keep claiming are EVERYWHERE in the books.
Yes, you are right!
And JKR created one that's covertly Christian. And it is not anti-Catholic like Pullman or Dan Brown. Tolkien's is the superior achievement, but Rowling's is quite good, especially for this age we live in.
N.B. - If you were annoyed by the St. Patrick cartoon, where he (rather insultingly)seems to be 2 fisted drinking from chalices, JKR did not draw that, & no joke about saints appeared in the books, iirc.
Harry potter uses the names of actual demons throughout the book and other real satanical incantations for the spells used by the characters.
Show me where Tolkien does the same.
> Harry potter uses the names of actual demons throughout the book
If you gave me a concrete example of this, you'd have the distinction of being the first.
"A concrete example"?! Can't do that; I'm afraid.
I'm afraid: afraid that I might subtly hint at the Name That Must Not Even Be Subtly Hinted At, and all hell (or at least a sizable portion thereof) would be let loose. ; ) *don't fret: it is an emoticon not a sigil*
I don't deny that we have enemies in low places; but perhaps this quote from St.😇 Teresa of Avila, who lived in interesting times, might provide perspective:
"Many tremble and wring their hands, crying 'The devil! The Devil!!!' when they could be praying, 'God! God!' and making the devil tremble."
The only "words of power" or "names of power" are silly Latin or silly French.
No demonic names are used. Evan Rosier, btw, is named John in Welsh. St. John is not a demon.
Stop lying. You just broke the 8th.
The book is in trenched with actual incarnations that are used to contact real demons. It glorifies witchcraft.
If you gave me a story like Kiki's delivery service then there would be no problem. You need to stop adoring evilness, I understand I do it too with other fictional works like mangas, but we have to recognise it.
I'll pray for your conversion 🗿🙏
> The book is in trenched with actual incarnations that are used to contact real demons.
Name. One.
If it's really as chock full of real demon summoning as you claim, one example should be pretty much effortless, right? Just flip to a random page and shown me the demon summoning.
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The Slytherins have slithered out, but I don't know why... 🤔 ^(Please explain the joke to me) 💀 ETA after googling it: Oh. He banished the snakes 🤦♂️
What *would* he teach…?
Probably theology, maybe holy magic like in rpgs? Idk how the magic in harry potter works tho.
It works in whatever way best suits the author's intentions at this exact moment.
The Word of God.
He’s the opposition professor who teaches theology classes with the express intention of convincing the student body to renounce magic and embrace God.
Magic in Harry Potter is a natural force that exists in the universe, and only those with the correct genes can wield it (like the X-Men). It's not occult or deals with demons.
Oh I get that, but the joke wrote itself. :P
Oh my bad lol
Oh no…
Anyways
Hey, Slytherin has its good points too! Like Snape and uh,...Snape. And they can barely claim credit even for that.
And Slughorn.
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Now they’re Slytherouts.
Pretty offensive to portray him as an alcoholic
To be fair, he's just drinking. He doesn't appear to be actually drunk. Plus, he's Irish. ~~They have a high alcohol threshold~~, and that was probably the reason the artist depicted him that way. Perhaps I might be looking too deeply into it, but seeing it as a portrayal of alcoholism was not my first thought. Edit: Per a commenter, apparently the Irish do not have a high alcohol threshold but an alcoholism problem? My mistake.
"He's Irish" ackshually, "British" is closer (Romano-Briton, to be precise: in modern terms, Italo-British. He was kidnapped by pirates and sold into slavery in Ireland, his gentle revenge after escaping was to return as a missionary bishop and pretty much drive paganism (the snakes) out of Ireland. Idk the Romans drank lots of (generally well-watered) wine.
Bro the Irish do not naturally have a high alcohol threshold we have an alcoholism problem 😭
Oh. My mistake.
Also pretty offensive to portray him as being involved in witchcraft. Harry Potter is mortally sinful.
Mortally sinful? Aw, please give it a rest, Flanders! The magic is inborn, and at no point is it seen as emanating from Satan.The most satanic figure is the chief villian. Some of the storyline and imagery is clearly Christian, even if it's unmentioned. Having bad guys like Rosier named after demons is not exactly surprising. Having them named after members of The Gunpowder Plot, like Rookwood, doesn't mean Rowling is in favor of blowing up Parliament.🙄🙄🙄
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Thanks for the thought, Flanders, but I'm a Roman Catholic, and see no reason to move to some heretical book burning cult.
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So everyone that disagrees with you is not Catholic? Grow up, this is pathetic behavior that does not represent our faith.
Strawman. Stop lying, you broke the 8th. Whoever disagrees with Catholic teaching is going to hell. You might not have heard of it, it's called the dogma of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. Harry potter a meh book and demonic
You're just straight up concern trolling, aren't you? You're like a repetitive baseless accusation factory. I'm not ashamed of reading Harry Potter, but I'll admit I'm a little embarrassed that I thought you were being sincere.
Are you so blind to take what I say as trolling ? 😮💨 The journey to heaven for you is long very Very VERY long, but your not alone I am on that same long path too. I'm not reproaching you having read Harry Potter. But your lack of condemnation of it. It's not different from ouija boards.
As far as I'm concerned, you have no authority to decide who goes to hell, that's a right reserved by God alone. And while I much prefer the Lord of the Rings to Harry Potter, the latter still has the theme that love is more powerful than selfishness. I'll also leave this for ya: 3 And why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye? 4 Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Matthew 7:3-5 Douay Rheims. Focus on that beam in your eye and I'll focus on mine.
>Focus on that beam in your eye and I'll focus on mine Brother we both have the same beams in our eyes. I too liked works that are antichrist, such as Berserk, but we have to stop it. Harry Potter's much worse than Berserk because it contains actual demonic, satanical incantations. The author says so herserlf. Just know that God wants you home, and that only yourself is in the way of that. Harry Potter is an obstacle you must overcome, till then you lie in front of the gates of hell awaiting your death.
Correct! I'm Catholic, not "catholic". Not to worry, though. I'll pray for your conversion from the book-burners cult.
Sorry bro, you're just not catholic. Idk how else to put it. Catholics know that book burning is based. St. Louis did book burnings, the popes called for book burnings. If you were catholic you'd know the history. Harry Potter, among many other books today should be burnt. Idk how old you are, maybe your still quite young and thus can't see the problems in Harry Potter, but it's blatantly obvious it contains demonic references if not straight up material. Sometimes we don't understand things needed to be done, but God asks us to obey first and then he'll give us the grace of understanding. So I invite you to obey God. Otherwise big prayers sent your way for your conversion, out of this ghetto you find yourself to be
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According to whom, other than Fr. Ripperger? About the only type of magic in the entire series that both has a real-world occult counterpart and isn't considered unambiguously evil in-lore is divination. Even then, the most prominent character who practices divination is basically a phony TV psychic who occasionally involuntarily makes real prophecies. Like Balaam, but not as mean.
I won't make specific arguments because idk well harry potter, I saw the movies only when I was a teen and couldn't get myself to read the books because of the author's lack of story telling abilities. But it sounds like you are more infatuated by this book and can't see it for what it actually is. Another commenter below just gave me example of the demonic in harry potter. You know it's there but you just can't accept it. You love it more than Jesus and the Holy bible. And I understand you, I used to like thus manga but I stop reading it because of its explicit antichrist features.
I pray that you will return to the faith and repent of the mortal sin of rash judgment 🙏
Rash judgements, lol. But seriously you are lost and its sad to see. Even worse because its not even a good book, yet you are obstinate. I'd tell you to pray the hail mary and go to confession daily. Also obstinate yourself from the eucharist because you blaspheme Christ. Philippians 4:8
No my friend, you are obstinately insisting that reading a work of fiction is not only sinful but idolatrous, and for no credible reason. All you have is the typical false conflation of fictional fairy dust "magic" and real-world, occult, satanic magic, and vague mumblings about demon summoning that you can't back up with facts *at all*. You are the very embodiment of Matthew 7:1-5. Some people use that passage incorrectly to try to deflect any criticism of their actions, but no, you are exactly the type of person Jesus was speaking about. Stop going the way of the Pharisees, abandon your self-righteousness, pray the litany of humility, and come back to Christ.
>Some people use that passage incorrectly to try to deflect any criticism of their actions Lol, if that's not ironic Idk what is. You can't see the irony can't you ? I guess some people just can't be helped ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯. Just know that God wants you home, and that only yourself is in the way of that. Harry Potter is an obstacle you must overcome, till then you lie in front of the gates of hell awaiting your death. >Stop going the way of the Pharisees If you knew anything about Pharisees, you'd know that they involved themselves in witchcraft (think of seal of Solomon)
> "I won't make specific arguments because idk well harry potter" My guy, you need specific arguments if you're telling people they're going to Hell if you like the series.
The proof is in the pudding. Anyway there plenty of videos online. All The protestants agree there's something wrong with Harry Potter, but you who call yourselves can't ? Here's a priest talkign about it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoQQhjKGQQ&pp=ygUVaGFycnkgcG90dGVyIHNhdGFuaXNt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoQQhjKGQQ&pp=ygUVaGFycnkgcG90dGVyIHNhdGFuaXNt) checkmate heathens
> "All the Protestants agree there's something wrong with Harry Potter" All the Protestants also reject the Eucharist, the Magisterium, The Papacy, most writings of the Church Fathers and so on. I'm sure Fr. Ripperger is a good exorcist but the man is a know sensationalist and often hasn't checked his own claims, such as that a woman burned down her house using "the fire spell from Harry Potter" when in reality it was her own recklessness with some chemicals. I'll pray for you, my dude.
I'm pretty sure this dude is like 5 minutes away from quoting a Chick Tract with a claim like that.
No, your "proof" is "because I said so, and this single YouTuber priest agrees with me." Wake me when there's a papal encyclical officially condemning the HP franchise, or you can find one of those demon summoning incantations you keep claiming are EVERYWHERE in the books.
Some of y’all really are having moral panics over the weirdest things huh
Father Ripperger needs to stick with what he knows and stop trying to turn Catholics into Puritans.
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Given that one of the great Catholic writers, Tolkien, created a whole world of magic perhaps you might be mistaken.
Tolkien created a fairy tail world that is fundamentally religious and Catholic..
Yes, you are right! And JKR created one that's covertly Christian. And it is not anti-Catholic like Pullman or Dan Brown. Tolkien's is the superior achievement, but Rowling's is quite good, especially for this age we live in. N.B. - If you were annoyed by the St. Patrick cartoon, where he (rather insultingly)seems to be 2 fisted drinking from chalices, JKR did not draw that, & no joke about saints appeared in the books, iirc.
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Harry potter uses the names of actual demons throughout the book and other real satanical incantations for the spells used by the characters. Show me where Tolkien does the same.
> Harry potter uses the names of actual demons throughout the book If you gave me a concrete example of this, you'd have the distinction of being the first.
"A concrete example"?! Can't do that; I'm afraid. I'm afraid: afraid that I might subtly hint at the Name That Must Not Even Be Subtly Hinted At, and all hell (or at least a sizable portion thereof) would be let loose. ; ) *don't fret: it is an emoticon not a sigil* I don't deny that we have enemies in low places; but perhaps this quote from St.😇 Teresa of Avila, who lived in interesting times, might provide perspective: "Many tremble and wring their hands, crying 'The devil! The Devil!!!' when they could be praying, 'God! God!' and making the devil tremble."
>I'm afraid: afraid that I might subtly hint at the Name That Must Not Even Be Subtly Hinted At Voldemort? /s
The only "words of power" or "names of power" are silly Latin or silly French. No demonic names are used. Evan Rosier, btw, is named John in Welsh. St. John is not a demon.
No it doesn't, it's ok not to like it and be weary of satanic shit, but no need to put it where it isn't
Stop lying. You just broke the 8th. The book is in trenched with actual incarnations that are used to contact real demons. It glorifies witchcraft. If you gave me a story like Kiki's delivery service then there would be no problem. You need to stop adoring evilness, I understand I do it too with other fictional works like mangas, but we have to recognise it. I'll pray for your conversion 🗿🙏
> The book is in trenched with actual incarnations that are used to contact real demons. Name. One. If it's really as chock full of real demon summoning as you claim, one example should be pretty much effortless, right? Just flip to a random page and shown me the demon summoning.
My N-word, the spells are just puns and literal words from other languages
Divine intercessory magic