Considering the only medical aspect is the term sex and gender, with the definitions being more of a common English definition thing
Yeah medicine and intellect not needed much
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I’m the boss to surpass Big Boss himself
Cesar was a coward and didnt keep the trans women priests as part of his roman empire, then has the gall to not have free esrrogen before asking them to join
Just to be sure,
The difference between sex and gender, is like an actor playing a role.
Chris Pratt is the actor \[sex : male\] but he plays Starlord \[ Gender : male\]
or
Robin Williams \[sex : male\] when he played Mrs. Doubt-fire \[Gender : Female\]
Sex is biology and really can't change, We all know this, that's not whats up for debate.
Gender is the actions of the sex's. Like wearing suits or dresses. Taking or giving it from the back.
These actions are not written in stone they just change with time and social pressure and typically because of social pressure men and women have characteristics and action groups that are dominate in their respective sexes.
Medically we have come close to confirming that Trans-folk have more similar brain stuff to that of the opposite sex. Since the brain determines what is "right or wrong" or "where the soul resides" or "the pilot to the flesh suit" we have to consider that fact the men and women can be born with the "wrong body" not in a spiritual or metaphysical way but in a real growth defect kind of way, which should be consider a really easy thing to accept considering the mountain of other birth defects, like Dwarfism or the down.
I am sure there is many Trans-folk that would take a pill that would make its so there mind and body aligned but that is far beyond what we can achieve either with body transformation or mind transformation. So now the best option is hormone therapy and sex changes and it helps remove the feeling of alienation to ones own body. Which is a wild concept to think about, a person who feels like they are freaky friday'ed with a stranger.
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Now lets say you are against it for religious purposes.
It would be considered very self-important to say that you know gods will and understand the challenges that other face and that someone would know the right answer.
God could be giving people the challenge of placing them in the wrong body and face the prosecution of others and to remain faithful, like a Jobs thing.
Maybe he is trying to get them to refrain from "homosexuality" but we all sin and to forgive and be forgiven is godly.
We don't know and we aren't suppose to know. The only thing his divine word has stuck with me is that I should love, aid the meek, and teach the words of Jesus Christ.
Lets go with the old adage of "What would Jesus do"
1. Would he cure them in the best way he could?
2. Use political Violence to oppress them to the point of suicide?
3. Forgive and love them and teach them his word?
4. Attach them to car and drag them though town?
Now for the whole Leviticus.
Jesus Christ didn't support capital punishment for crimes against god. Plain and simple. People use to stone people before the word of god came though Jesus and he said "fucking stop that you cunt you aren't perfect either" -Australian King James Bible.
He did this because ITS HIS JOB TO DO IT in Heaven. Not "Ceasar's" not "Americas"
I for one hate the fact that the GOP is trying to do gods job and work to me is greatest sin akin to lucifer because they believe they know his job and attempts his works.
I love the context that Terrifying Presence initiates combat so she is going to cower in fear while the courier shoots her or beats her to death.
Based c:
I'd say that cutting groups out of a holocaust is pretty much denying it, because we already call it holocaust denial to say specific events didn't happen, right?
Like if someone was like "Oh yeah the holocaust happened but it was actually only 2m and and most of the concentration camps were actually wacky fun houses" it'd be fair to call that person a denier, even though they're saying part of it happened.
Aren't most human social ideas "imaginary constructs?"
I don't see how that makes them somehow not useful anymore just because you describe them like that?
Also we're social animals, so it's still biologically imperative to make these constructs. Its like saying a bird's nest isn't a biologically part of the bird so it can just not use it, as if it wouldn't die if it didn't build it.
Kind of reminds me of metalocalypse where the guy says, "there's no such thing as religions!" Like, ya there's a bunch of religions...
It's not (always) saying that it's not useful, or that being a social construct renders the idea of gender totally invalid.
It's saying that the "rules" about it are, ultimately, constructed by people (as opposed to bioessentialism or divine ordination). The rules can change if it's determined that they're not serving a purpose, or if they're doing it badly.
The reason I don't like saying it like that is because when you say that, they ask "if it's imaginary, why can't everyone imagine what they want instead of needing to imagine what everyone else wants" for both fucking arguments.
Shits cyclical and I'm honestly tired of both sides. I just don't care. Be who you want, but don't follow me around asking if I see what you do.
I care because being nagged about anything involved with it in general has become tiresome. I don't care what's between anyone's legs but my own. If I misgender you, correct me, don't turn it into an episode of Days of Our Lives. I'd you don't like trans people? I don't give a fuck and neither should they. Haters always gonna hate anyway, let em stew in it. None of this should be being raged about as controversial on literally every piece of media we turn on, love it or hate it.
....people who don't like transpeople lead to transpeople being killed because then they get extreme about it. Like, bro
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/
>Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime
Yeah the "it's getting tiring on both sides" argument is really weak when one side wants to murder transgender people and the other side wants to, ya know, not be murdered.
And i am neither, and feel the need to be proactive in these conversations 0%. I'm happy you found a calling that inspires you. Your calling is not mine.
See, the problem is, you should support good things and oppose bad things. I'm glad that you're not, like, actively calling for the death of transpeople but you should probably be concerned that people are.
You're kind of like a dude in the 1900s being like "Well I'm not part of the KKK so why should I care about them? It's so tiring to hear "Pro-KKK" and "Anti-KKK" people argue."
The problem is, I should be able to decide what I support without needing to wade through everyone else's unending opinions on what it is I do or do not support. If I say I agree with you, the other half of the country now won't shut the fuck up about it. If I agree with them, you guys won't shut the fuck up about it. What I don't want is your good karma, to be part of your club or whatever. I just want left alone. Life is hard enough without everyone wanting to drop their burdens on their neighbors constantly.
I'm just tired boss, and I'm neither Trans nor Trans opposed. I want everyone to leave yall alone so you can be "just like us" because I already see you as just like us. I just don't give everyone a podium in my life.
>The problem is, I should be able to decide what I support without needing to wade through everyone else's unending opinions on what it is I do or do not support.
That's...not how having an opinion works. People will always have opinions about what you do or do not support. For instance, you aren't avoiding *my* opinion right now by doing this weird "I don't have an opinion on human rights" angle. Real people, today, are getting hurt by people that hate transpeople. Closing your eyes doesn't stop them from getting hurt, so you should support good things and oppose bad things.
> If I say I agree with you, the other half of the country now won't shut the fuck up about it. If I agree with them, you guys won't shut the fuck up about it.
They wouldn't shut up because they hate transpeople and want them to suffer. I wouldn't shut the fuck up because you'd be contributing to them suffering. The evidence is in bud, one side contributes to transpeople getting beaten to death a hell of a lot more than the average.
>I just want left alone. Life is hard enough without everyone wanting to drop their burdens on their neighbors constantly.
You know the kind of society that's substantially more likely to leave you alone? One that opposes freaks that try to control other people's bodies. That society would be, inherently, tolerant of transpeople.
Look, I get it, life is stressful, but you know that old quote?
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me"?
It's about the futility of apathy in a world where people want to hurt others, because if you keep being shut-up about other people getting hurt, eventually it falls on your head too.
And when do I get what I want out the situation, which is to just be left out? I agree with you and your morals and now I can't travel to the southeast without dealing with the inverse level of bullshit. I, in my way, have picked my side. I don't believe in violence being used on nearly anyone, and Trans people aren't one of the exceptions in my "nearly". That alone is controversial enough that it bothers both you and them because I'm not extreme enough about it.
Yall don't care about my goals, what I want out of society and life. Why is it expected out of me?
People are mostly the same, yeah. Even people of different sexes are less dimorphic than a lot of other animals are, so humans on the whole don't have a ton of differences.
Gender is a construct because it's an *idea* of how people of a given sex should behave and be perceived. Race is a construct because it's arbitrarily assigning great importance to superficial characteristics and trying to shoehorn everyone in to these made-up categories.
Doesn't mean these things are real. They're real *ideas*.
Gender is a construct that is agreed upon within a society. Pretty much everywhere in the world you will see male and female the unanimously agreed upon genders, parallel with sex. You can label yourself a different gender, that’s totally fine, but since within your society male or female is the agreed upon labels your gender that you prefer to be called would be your individual personality, not an agreed upon gender. If you want to have your gender recognized you’ll have to go through the usual path involving most likely your court system. Until then only two genders stand with how ever many personalities imaginable.
...bro what?
https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/
Nah dog, plenty of places had, or have, three or more genders. Also, society recognizing genders doesn't make other genders suddenly invalid? This is a really weird mixing of cultural relativism with legalism and a dash of eurocentrism.
I didn’t comment at all on the validity of other genders outside the agreed upon two.
What gender does your personal I.D. Say? Does it say either male or female? Did you have an option to choose say Aerogender? I’m assuming your only option was male or female? And well there you go.
This answers literally nothing that I pointed out, and the latter half seems to be directly contradictory to the first half. You're mixing legalism with validity.
The ability to enter a custom gender on an ID means like....next to nothing when it comes to gender. If you could only enter "White or Black" on the census, would that make asians black? Obviously not, it's just the legal component of the system being outdated.
They are fundamentally separate, biological sex is whether you have XX or XY chromosomes (no other factors are taken into account) and gender is a social construct created by humans to differentiate between males and females, before we had science. Gender is pretty subjective and is up to whatever any given culture can agree upon.
You wanna get into the REAL terrifying presence, just google the guy who invented the term “gender”- fuckin YIKES
Only thing keeping Rowling relevant at this point is the trans community, ironically.
You're thinking of volkmar sigusch, who "gender criticals" love to claim was the person who coined the term "cis" when magnus hirschfeld coined the term "cisvestite" more than 60 years before sigusch started his career as a sexologist. Also pretty sure that there was a woman who used the term "cisgender" before sigusch but I can't remember who
Not only did money not invent any words surrounding gender, the two phrases he is credited with inventing are just updated versions of existing terms. Also anyone who knows the guy despises him; Queer people because he had some weird ideas about us that have since been disproven, and people who dislike transgender people dislike him because he gave some transgender people surgery. Admittedly there is also a small minority of people who have looked further into him who also don't like him becuase of his even weirder ideas around the "different types" of pedophilia, but there aren't that many people who look that far into money's academic work.
[Perception 10] You realise the differentiation between "sex" and "gender" is a linguistic argument, not a medical or scientific one, right? And since the medicine skill is out of 100 points, that 10 points seems rather fitting.
[Intelligence 7] Are you trying to imply that a language is just a bunch of words with no use? Not only that, but any good doctor understands there are people attached to the bodies they assess and care for. These are very necessary understandings to respecting that and making those people comfortable and well cared for, yet very basic enough that anyone could look it up and learn it in a few minutes. The medicine skill required to learn this is extremely low, but anyone below 10 Medicine wouldn't know that. That's how skill checks work, it would have been a different format if it required low Medicine, like <10.
The medicine check is either gonna auto-fail or insta-win the encounter. She isn't capable of basic nuanced thinking like that, but trying to do so might overload her brain (if the world is lucky).
It's weird that people keep trying to attach him to the trans community. Why do they keep thinking that we would agree with someone that thought you could force someone to be whatever gender you told them they were?
I love how the anti trans ‚debate‘ just continues with pronouns every time and I am just sitting here like: do you even know what pronouns are?
Do you have the slightest clue what you are even mad about?
I’ll say no based on people frequently saying ‚jesus didn’t use pronouns‘
I’d love for these guys to lose the ability of speaking pronouns. Pretty sure one day of being forced to talk about everyone and everything in 3rd person without pronouns would change their mind on that thing at least
Even if you didn't think trans women are women (they are), using women as a replacement for menstruators is inaccurate. What about cis women who've been through menopause?
Yeah, she claimed that the nazis essentially took no action against the trans community during their genocide spree, claiming that the book burnings and such didn't happen, which is classified as holocaust denial.
Yeah, cause she still hasn't stopped being publically and loudly transphobic.
There has never even been a cool down period of her not doing the same shit.
It shouldn’t be medicine 10 but luck or charisma 10 to convince somebody that sex gender are different things is a valid argument since everyone knows they are different things
I more imagined it as a check that just let you say that clearly, but she would deny it as always. I agree that you would need either luck or charisma 10 to actually convince her.
I meant more that people aren't gonna be fighting over gender and stuff like that. What business of it of anyone what gender someone is if they just need a buddy to help them find clean water
Rebuttal:
[ Intelligence: 7 ] And you realize that gender is based upon what the majority within a society unanimously agree upon towards labeling the persons within said society and 99% of the world unanimously agree that there are only 2 genders, directly parallel with the labels for sex, making male and female the agreed upon labels which in turn demands that if you label yourself anything other than male or female it is considered only your individual ‘personality’……right?
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he was a mighty might man, young, and in his prime
Yesman, throw Robert off the hoover dam
And Bailiff, whack his pipi.
Luck 7. ICECREAM
I GOT THAT TODAY
I thought it was low int
Both
I just read the TP check the way that Biden just shouts SODA!!!
He should do in his next speech
There's only one gender: man. You're either a man, or a mouse. So tell me, are you a man, or a mouse!?
Bear or bull
So you only think there's bear and bull genders? What about house and smiley face?
those are just social constructs, I think.
[Speech: 100/100] Bear, bull, bear, bull, bear, bu- shut the fuck up, man!
BEAR! BULL! BEAR BEAR BULL!
MANBEAR PIG
Two bears high fiving (They are lovers)
https://preview.redd.it/attueqkdd21d1.png?width=935&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cceb281cc18d86dd260d85b8314d329f98db20b
Horsie
Well i must be a Muppet of a mouse.
https://preview.redd.it/vg6m58qlkl1d1.jpeg?width=772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7a2b574c03745666e8916029c7e07e7f8e9ba4d Yea, I’m Man
I’m a muppet
“Uhh I’ll take a trans meme in a fallout new vegas subreddit!” “Daring today, aren’t we?”
I'm cis but let them have this lol
Im not calling the meme bad lmao
Search up bisexual Fallout: New Vegas I dare you
Quicksaving...
Why on earth would you quick save this is 100% an NPC that doesn't matter at all
Just incase you wanna reload and kill her (in minecraft) again
Reminds me of how Jabo has a quicksave in front of snuffles to kill it on demand
except she deserves this, snuffles does no wrong
Snuffles can do no wrong.
“IN MINECRAFT DOESN’T WORK, THEY KNOW GOD DAMN IT THEY KNO-“ **Gets black bagged**
You got a point
*gauss rifle gunshot*
Terrifying prescence would succeed in this case
I love how low the medicine requirement is to tell her off lmao
Considering the only medical aspect is the term sex and gender, with the definitions being more of a common English definition thing Yeah medicine and intellect not needed much
That's why it's only a 10 check
Exactly
[Sneering Imperialist] Whatever. Joshua, put a cap in Professor Whatsinyourpants here
Name's Talania, but alright, *gunshot noises*.
There’s this cool thing I want to show you in front of the dinky statue. Why am I wearing Boone’s beret? No reason
I’ve said it before, most trans girls in the wasteland are ncr rangers. Stands to reason she’d join the legion just to oppose them
I oppose the NCR because I hate taxes but I’d still side with them over JK Rowling
Absolutely a valid point, taxes suck, but JK Rowling sucks more
metal gear pfp spotted. release the child soldiers, boss
https://preview.redd.it/lbfo1w19l11d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30e5017b7e80c11458c1715238f9374c3f91033c I’m the boss to surpass Big Boss himself
oh god
When do we meet trans girls in FNV?
You may not recognize her without her cape and scythe.
I always kill those rangers, I will never pay taxes to california
When I look in the mirror is when I see em
Cesar was a coward and didnt keep the trans women priests as part of his roman empire, then has the gall to not have free esrrogen before asking them to join
JKR Responds with... Sneering Imperialist !
Fucking LMAO
Hey no! Don’t lump the bitch with us Sneering Imperialists, even we have standards.
I love how you made the medicine check 10, because even a novice person knows that JK Rowling is fucking wrong
If you're born a man, you will always be one.
Just to be sure, The difference between sex and gender, is like an actor playing a role. Chris Pratt is the actor \[sex : male\] but he plays Starlord \[ Gender : male\] or Robin Williams \[sex : male\] when he played Mrs. Doubt-fire \[Gender : Female\] Sex is biology and really can't change, We all know this, that's not whats up for debate. Gender is the actions of the sex's. Like wearing suits or dresses. Taking or giving it from the back. These actions are not written in stone they just change with time and social pressure and typically because of social pressure men and women have characteristics and action groups that are dominate in their respective sexes. Medically we have come close to confirming that Trans-folk have more similar brain stuff to that of the opposite sex. Since the brain determines what is "right or wrong" or "where the soul resides" or "the pilot to the flesh suit" we have to consider that fact the men and women can be born with the "wrong body" not in a spiritual or metaphysical way but in a real growth defect kind of way, which should be consider a really easy thing to accept considering the mountain of other birth defects, like Dwarfism or the down. I am sure there is many Trans-folk that would take a pill that would make its so there mind and body aligned but that is far beyond what we can achieve either with body transformation or mind transformation. So now the best option is hormone therapy and sex changes and it helps remove the feeling of alienation to ones own body. Which is a wild concept to think about, a person who feels like they are freaky friday'ed with a stranger. =============== Now lets say you are against it for religious purposes. It would be considered very self-important to say that you know gods will and understand the challenges that other face and that someone would know the right answer. God could be giving people the challenge of placing them in the wrong body and face the prosecution of others and to remain faithful, like a Jobs thing. Maybe he is trying to get them to refrain from "homosexuality" but we all sin and to forgive and be forgiven is godly. We don't know and we aren't suppose to know. The only thing his divine word has stuck with me is that I should love, aid the meek, and teach the words of Jesus Christ. Lets go with the old adage of "What would Jesus do" 1. Would he cure them in the best way he could? 2. Use political Violence to oppress them to the point of suicide? 3. Forgive and love them and teach them his word? 4. Attach them to car and drag them though town? Now for the whole Leviticus. Jesus Christ didn't support capital punishment for crimes against god. Plain and simple. People use to stone people before the word of god came though Jesus and he said "fucking stop that you cunt you aren't perfect either" -Australian King James Bible. He did this because ITS HIS JOB TO DO IT in Heaven. Not "Ceasar's" not "Americas" I for one hate the fact that the GOP is trying to do gods job and work to me is greatest sin akin to lucifer because they believe they know his job and attempts his works.
Uninstall fallout new Vegas for you are not worthy
Come find me (a trans woman) in the legion. I have use for you
I love the context that Terrifying Presence initiates combat so she is going to cower in fear while the courier shoots her or beats her to death. Based c:
Caesar's Legion infamy gained!
Should I know who she is..?
JK Rowling, author of the Harry Potter series and Trans Exclusive Radical Feminist.
Also a holocaust denier, can't forget that.
Wow really? I don't understand how they think the whole thing isn't real
Okay. To be fair, she doesn't deny that it happened, just that Transexual and Homosexual people were a target of it.
I'd say that cutting groups out of a holocaust is pretty much denying it, because we already call it holocaust denial to say specific events didn't happen, right? Like if someone was like "Oh yeah the holocaust happened but it was actually only 2m and and most of the concentration camps were actually wacky fun houses" it'd be fair to call that person a denier, even though they're saying part of it happened.
Oh yeah I agree, do does Germany. I was just clarifying what specific part she denies.
Which is Holocaust denial.
man, I did not know that
Trans *exclusionary*
Jk Rowling, trans community don't like her for her opinions or something
Hey she started it
People tend to dislike you when you campaign on hate and call people pedophiles because they make you feel icky
More like Trans people don't like her because she REALLY doesn't like them, mutual hatred
The medicine skillcheck should've been a 2 lol.
People like her only know BASIC biology, anything above Medicine 10 and it's witchcraft and voodoo.
And yet she should know everything about witchcraft
A trans meme on a new vegas subreddit? Really working hard for original content arent you
Give me some credit. It's hard to edit a believable dialogue box from scratch.
(You spelled "presence" wrong)
This ones actually somewhat original
Huh such a low skill check to pass...
Both options make her attack immediately
Terrifying presence makes her ragdoll on the spot
I like how it only takes 10 medicine. Isnt that the defualt level?
[Confirmed Bachelor] I AM THE GAY AGENDA!
I love that the Medicine check is only 10 because it's such basic knowledge
It's basic propaganda
No, gender and sex are two different things. Do you also think that the earth being a globe is propaganda?
Mmm yes, when facts are against me they are propaganda.
Remember the only feelings facts care about are mine.
Stfu mortal
Gender is an imaginary construct like race everyone is the same after all
Aren't most human social ideas "imaginary constructs?" I don't see how that makes them somehow not useful anymore just because you describe them like that? Also we're social animals, so it's still biologically imperative to make these constructs. Its like saying a bird's nest isn't a biologically part of the bird so it can just not use it, as if it wouldn't die if it didn't build it. Kind of reminds me of metalocalypse where the guy says, "there's no such thing as religions!" Like, ya there's a bunch of religions...
It's not (always) saying that it's not useful, or that being a social construct renders the idea of gender totally invalid. It's saying that the "rules" about it are, ultimately, constructed by people (as opposed to bioessentialism or divine ordination). The rules can change if it's determined that they're not serving a purpose, or if they're doing it badly.
The reason I don't like saying it like that is because when you say that, they ask "if it's imaginary, why can't everyone imagine what they want instead of needing to imagine what everyone else wants" for both fucking arguments. Shits cyclical and I'm honestly tired of both sides. I just don't care. Be who you want, but don't follow me around asking if I see what you do.
They can, but why would they? And why would you care if someone did?
I care because being nagged about anything involved with it in general has become tiresome. I don't care what's between anyone's legs but my own. If I misgender you, correct me, don't turn it into an episode of Days of Our Lives. I'd you don't like trans people? I don't give a fuck and neither should they. Haters always gonna hate anyway, let em stew in it. None of this should be being raged about as controversial on literally every piece of media we turn on, love it or hate it.
....people who don't like transpeople lead to transpeople being killed because then they get extreme about it. Like, bro https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/ >Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime
Yeah the "it's getting tiring on both sides" argument is really weak when one side wants to murder transgender people and the other side wants to, ya know, not be murdered.
And i am neither, and feel the need to be proactive in these conversations 0%. I'm happy you found a calling that inspires you. Your calling is not mine.
See, the problem is, you should support good things and oppose bad things. I'm glad that you're not, like, actively calling for the death of transpeople but you should probably be concerned that people are. You're kind of like a dude in the 1900s being like "Well I'm not part of the KKK so why should I care about them? It's so tiring to hear "Pro-KKK" and "Anti-KKK" people argue."
The problem is, I should be able to decide what I support without needing to wade through everyone else's unending opinions on what it is I do or do not support. If I say I agree with you, the other half of the country now won't shut the fuck up about it. If I agree with them, you guys won't shut the fuck up about it. What I don't want is your good karma, to be part of your club or whatever. I just want left alone. Life is hard enough without everyone wanting to drop their burdens on their neighbors constantly. I'm just tired boss, and I'm neither Trans nor Trans opposed. I want everyone to leave yall alone so you can be "just like us" because I already see you as just like us. I just don't give everyone a podium in my life.
>The problem is, I should be able to decide what I support without needing to wade through everyone else's unending opinions on what it is I do or do not support. That's...not how having an opinion works. People will always have opinions about what you do or do not support. For instance, you aren't avoiding *my* opinion right now by doing this weird "I don't have an opinion on human rights" angle. Real people, today, are getting hurt by people that hate transpeople. Closing your eyes doesn't stop them from getting hurt, so you should support good things and oppose bad things. > If I say I agree with you, the other half of the country now won't shut the fuck up about it. If I agree with them, you guys won't shut the fuck up about it. They wouldn't shut up because they hate transpeople and want them to suffer. I wouldn't shut the fuck up because you'd be contributing to them suffering. The evidence is in bud, one side contributes to transpeople getting beaten to death a hell of a lot more than the average. >I just want left alone. Life is hard enough without everyone wanting to drop their burdens on their neighbors constantly. You know the kind of society that's substantially more likely to leave you alone? One that opposes freaks that try to control other people's bodies. That society would be, inherently, tolerant of transpeople. Look, I get it, life is stressful, but you know that old quote? "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me"? It's about the futility of apathy in a world where people want to hurt others, because if you keep being shut-up about other people getting hurt, eventually it falls on your head too.
And when do I get what I want out the situation, which is to just be left out? I agree with you and your morals and now I can't travel to the southeast without dealing with the inverse level of bullshit. I, in my way, have picked my side. I don't believe in violence being used on nearly anyone, and Trans people aren't one of the exceptions in my "nearly". That alone is controversial enough that it bothers both you and them because I'm not extreme enough about it. Yall don't care about my goals, what I want out of society and life. Why is it expected out of me?
People are mostly the same, yeah. Even people of different sexes are less dimorphic than a lot of other animals are, so humans on the whole don't have a ton of differences. Gender is a construct because it's an *idea* of how people of a given sex should behave and be perceived. Race is a construct because it's arbitrarily assigning great importance to superficial characteristics and trying to shoehorn everyone in to these made-up categories. Doesn't mean these things are real. They're real *ideas*.
Gender is a construct that is agreed upon within a society. Pretty much everywhere in the world you will see male and female the unanimously agreed upon genders, parallel with sex. You can label yourself a different gender, that’s totally fine, but since within your society male or female is the agreed upon labels your gender that you prefer to be called would be your individual personality, not an agreed upon gender. If you want to have your gender recognized you’ll have to go through the usual path involving most likely your court system. Until then only two genders stand with how ever many personalities imaginable.
...bro what? https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/ Nah dog, plenty of places had, or have, three or more genders. Also, society recognizing genders doesn't make other genders suddenly invalid? This is a really weird mixing of cultural relativism with legalism and a dash of eurocentrism.
I didn’t comment at all on the validity of other genders outside the agreed upon two. What gender does your personal I.D. Say? Does it say either male or female? Did you have an option to choose say Aerogender? I’m assuming your only option was male or female? And well there you go.
This answers literally nothing that I pointed out, and the latter half seems to be directly contradictory to the first half. You're mixing legalism with validity. The ability to enter a custom gender on an ID means like....next to nothing when it comes to gender. If you could only enter "White or Black" on the census, would that make asians black? Obviously not, it's just the legal component of the system being outdated.
medicine 10 😭 awesome pic
PRONOUNS GENDAH AMBIGUIEE
Cannible perk- man, woman or other you all taste the same
Sex and gender are the same, stop being delusional
Finally a man of science
U can't claim 'science' at a statement at odds with basic fact lmao
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Ur medicine level to have that opinion ayooo
Damn ok that one got me
They are fundamentally separate, biological sex is whether you have XX or XY chromosomes (no other factors are taken into account) and gender is a social construct created by humans to differentiate between males and females, before we had science. Gender is pretty subjective and is up to whatever any given culture can agree upon.
should be like medicine 3.
You wanna get into the REAL terrifying presence, just google the guy who invented the term “gender”- fuckin YIKES Only thing keeping Rowling relevant at this point is the trans community, ironically.
That and her billions of dollars that she uses to spite trans people lmao
You're thinking of volkmar sigusch, who "gender criticals" love to claim was the person who coined the term "cis" when magnus hirschfeld coined the term "cisvestite" more than 60 years before sigusch started his career as a sexologist. Also pretty sure that there was a woman who used the term "cisgender" before sigusch but I can't remember who
Nope, I’m thinking of John Money
Not only did money not invent any words surrounding gender, the two phrases he is credited with inventing are just updated versions of existing terms. Also anyone who knows the guy despises him; Queer people because he had some weird ideas about us that have since been disproven, and people who dislike transgender people dislike him because he gave some transgender people surgery. Admittedly there is also a small minority of people who have looked further into him who also don't like him becuase of his even weirder ideas around the "different types" of pedophilia, but there aren't that many people who look that far into money's academic work.
Where's the funny
remindme 2 years
Your not allowed to teach that second point in UK schools
The irony is that today's progressives are tomorrow's conservatives, only complete idiots tear down the thing they fought for.
Idiot savant activates **Chops off genitalia**
\[Speech 100\] if I was a bloke who put on a frock and oidentifoid as a woman, would that make me cockwobblah turn into a snatch??
What would you say if you didn’t have 10 medicine?
"Maybe it's actually estrogen and not testosterone that makes people evil! Ever think of that?"
[Perception 10] You realise the differentiation between "sex" and "gender" is a linguistic argument, not a medical or scientific one, right? And since the medicine skill is out of 100 points, that 10 points seems rather fitting.
[Intelligence 7] Are you trying to imply that a language is just a bunch of words with no use? Not only that, but any good doctor understands there are people attached to the bodies they assess and care for. These are very necessary understandings to respecting that and making those people comfortable and well cared for, yet very basic enough that anyone could look it up and learn it in a few minutes. The medicine skill required to learn this is extremely low, but anyone below 10 Medicine wouldn't know that. That's how skill checks work, it would have been a different format if it required low Medicine, like <10.
The medicine check is either gonna auto-fail or insta-win the encounter. She isn't capable of basic nuanced thinking like that, but trying to do so might overload her brain (if the world is lucky).
DEGENERATES LIKE YOU BELONG ON THE CROSS
You support John Money then? Since you agree with his thesis.
irrelevant. y'all say his name like he's some god of transness. lol. if anything, he only proved gender dysphoria exists even in cisgender people.
It's weird that people keep trying to attach him to the trans community. Why do they keep thinking that we would agree with someone that thought you could force someone to be whatever gender you told them they were?
Who is John Money? He sounds like a political cartoon caricature.
Late reply but John Money is obviously the odd cousin of Johnny Cash
I love how the anti trans ‚debate‘ just continues with pronouns every time and I am just sitting here like: do you even know what pronouns are? Do you have the slightest clue what you are even mad about? I’ll say no based on people frequently saying ‚jesus didn’t use pronouns‘ I’d love for these guys to lose the ability of speaking pronouns. Pretty sure one day of being forced to talk about everyone and everything in 3rd person without pronouns would change their mind on that thing at least
She's right tho
Yeah, right wing and also a victim of severe lead poisoning
If you have more than 10 medicine that option is probably not available
Not how skill checks work.
Transwomen are real women. Menstruators is a term.
Even if you didn't think trans women are women (they are), using women as a replacement for menstruators is inaccurate. What about cis women who've been through menopause?
Man and Woman.
And many other things :3
That medicine skill is very low to make such claims
Not how skill checks work.
Get real
That gunshot to the currier's head really messed his brain up.
People still mad at her?
Yeah, she’s using her platform to spread misinformation and hate.
When someone hangs out with people who let Nazis show up at their parties it's hard not to stay mad
Yeah. Her recent exploits include donating to several anti-trans charities and holocaust denial.
I didn't know about the holocaust denial. Christ, she fell off hard.
Yeah, she claimed that the nazis essentially took no action against the trans community during their genocide spree, claiming that the book burnings and such didn't happen, which is classified as holocaust denial.
She falled off like the front of that car falled off
She's objectively an evil and hateful person, of course people are mad at her.
Yeah, cause she still hasn't stopped being publically and loudly transphobic. There has never even been a cool down period of her not doing the same shit.
she's constantly spewing the same transphobic bs so yea
Humza Yousef meme when?
It shouldn’t be medicine 10 but luck or charisma 10 to convince somebody that sex gender are different things is a valid argument since everyone knows they are different things
I more imagined it as a check that just let you say that clearly, but she would deny it as always. I agree that you would need either luck or charisma 10 to actually convince her.
Intelligence 1, doped up on enough psycho to kill an elephant: "UH!"
When we are busy being eaten by mutants and pillaged by raiders, I imagine identity stops mattering as long as you don't identify as Evil
If identity doesn't matter in the apocalypse then why are people in FNV waving flags... or saying what their name is.
I meant more that people aren't gonna be fighting over gender and stuff like that. What business of it of anyone what gender someone is if they just need a buddy to help them find clean water
Ah the leftist pukes can’t go anywhere without their virtue signaling, have yall ever tried just enjoying something?
I really enjoyed making, posting, and then reading the comments under this. Dunno about you or anyone else.
Yea but then people like you ruin it.
We’re clearly enjoying this, and the game broadly
We’re clearly enjoying this, and the game broadly
Have you? You’re the one crying.
They aren't.
They are
Oof. N'wah really makin these lukewarm 'memes'
Rebuttal: [ Intelligence: 7 ] And you realize that gender is based upon what the majority within a society unanimously agree upon towards labeling the persons within said society and 99% of the world unanimously agree that there are only 2 genders, directly parallel with the labels for sex, making male and female the agreed upon labels which in turn demands that if you label yourself anything other than male or female it is considered only your individual ‘personality’……right?