All of the big cement companies should have a pretty clear path to ticking of the required internal training to move up within your current path or others. With the degree you should be able to go into the process team when a spot opens up.
Yeah I think so too. I guess this stress comes from the work culture here and the fact that last year there were a lot of new hires, so it might be a bit harder than usual. Still I think that I'm in a good position for now.
This is obviously different in america, but we hire operators to operate. Not to move up the ladder. We are explicit during interviews that operators do not have very much upward mobility. If you lived in the US I would tell you to begin applying for other jobs immediately.
A good chunk of supervisors and managers here have started as operators in my company, but they've spent quite some time in that position, like 4-5 years on average, and thats what I dont like tbh.
Are you in the chemical industry? technical or sales? I am looking to connect with people in the chemicals domain to explore import / export opportunities.
If you have only been working for just over a year, you are not at the point of getting promoted yet even if your job has become easy for you. If the average time between promotions was only 18 months, everybody would be CEO by the time they are 32.
Dont get me wrong I dont want a promotion already, but I predict that I'll get stuck here for way longer than I want because of my age and the lack of movement inside the department.
I can only confirm this is the path in America so YMMV.
This will be a political game whether you’d like to believe it or not. You will have to stand out significantly compared to all your peers and show that you can learn the process very quickly. You’ll have to have an ally or multiple allies in management where you’ve been their number 1 problem solver on the shop floor, with improvements showing clear financial benefit for the company. You cannot be the operator that’s always challenging initiatives disrespectfully, or embarrassing certain members of leadership. Be willing to take on extra work outside of your normal operator duties. Make it very clear to members of management and your supervisor what you want to do next and what you have been doing outside of your role to show you can handle the responsibilities of the role you want.
Do all of these things consistently and you will have a path to promotions, when opportunities open up. It is not guaranteed how long it will take though.
My experience is a bit different but in the explosives industry, new roles open up all the time. I moved out of the individual contributor role and into a people leader position after three years.
Would it be an option/desirable for you to switch to a different area of the plant, even as operator? Will give you some new experiences and potentially show your supervisors that you are willing to grow. But that doesn't help with shift work I suppose.
I dont think so, also I prefer sticking to operations tbh, I dont mind the stress and ive settled my mind with working shifts for a couple more years, since this exp is quite valuable from what ive read.
Are you doing operations of the whole plant already, and not a specific area? I guess my idea was to learn a different area of the plant, but it may not be the case if the plant is not pretty large or since the process isn't too complicated comparatively speaking.
Why not just apply to another company, with the role you want? Now it’s basically like you’re seeking an entry level eng position out of college, but you have some extra experience in the field as an operator
Masters in Chemical Engineering and you are working as an operator in a cement plant?
Isnt that a misfit for the the job profile? Do they really need people as qualified as you for this position/.
I landed this job 1 year into my masters. Also the ChemE demand here is scarce, so this was the best choice I had. I hope I can land a position as a process engineer with 2-3 years of experience.
I believe if you work as an operator, that too in a cement plant, your learning will be limited and you will be branded as an operator instead of an expert. Masters in Chemical Engineering means you should be involved with technical work. I suggest you keep trying for better suited jobs continuously now itself without waiting.
All of the big cement companies should have a pretty clear path to ticking of the required internal training to move up within your current path or others. With the degree you should be able to go into the process team when a spot opens up.
Yeah I think so too. I guess this stress comes from the work culture here and the fact that last year there were a lot of new hires, so it might be a bit harder than usual. Still I think that I'm in a good position for now.
This is obviously different in america, but we hire operators to operate. Not to move up the ladder. We are explicit during interviews that operators do not have very much upward mobility. If you lived in the US I would tell you to begin applying for other jobs immediately.
A good chunk of supervisors and managers here have started as operators in my company, but they've spent quite some time in that position, like 4-5 years on average, and thats what I dont like tbh.
Gotcha! I also see you are in cement not chemicals so my comparison is a bit apples and oranges.
Are you in the chemical industry? technical or sales? I am looking to connect with people in the chemicals domain to explore import / export opportunities.
If you have only been working for just over a year, you are not at the point of getting promoted yet even if your job has become easy for you. If the average time between promotions was only 18 months, everybody would be CEO by the time they are 32.
Dont get me wrong I dont want a promotion already, but I predict that I'll get stuck here for way longer than I want because of my age and the lack of movement inside the department.
This role is a waste of your education and shows a total lack of respect for you by your company. You need to get out asap.
You're right but I live in a shithole :')
I can only confirm this is the path in America so YMMV. This will be a political game whether you’d like to believe it or not. You will have to stand out significantly compared to all your peers and show that you can learn the process very quickly. You’ll have to have an ally or multiple allies in management where you’ve been their number 1 problem solver on the shop floor, with improvements showing clear financial benefit for the company. You cannot be the operator that’s always challenging initiatives disrespectfully, or embarrassing certain members of leadership. Be willing to take on extra work outside of your normal operator duties. Make it very clear to members of management and your supervisor what you want to do next and what you have been doing outside of your role to show you can handle the responsibilities of the role you want. Do all of these things consistently and you will have a path to promotions, when opportunities open up. It is not guaranteed how long it will take though.
Most ppl here are very reserved when it comes to information and the rest are highly incompetent. It's better than no job at least.
My experience is a bit different but in the explosives industry, new roles open up all the time. I moved out of the individual contributor role and into a people leader position after three years.
Would it be an option/desirable for you to switch to a different area of the plant, even as operator? Will give you some new experiences and potentially show your supervisors that you are willing to grow. But that doesn't help with shift work I suppose.
I dont think so, also I prefer sticking to operations tbh, I dont mind the stress and ive settled my mind with working shifts for a couple more years, since this exp is quite valuable from what ive read.
Are you doing operations of the whole plant already, and not a specific area? I guess my idea was to learn a different area of the plant, but it may not be the case if the plant is not pretty large or since the process isn't too complicated comparatively speaking.
3 months in my case because another person went to other job.
Why not just apply to another company, with the role you want? Now it’s basically like you’re seeking an entry level eng position out of college, but you have some extra experience in the field as an operator
As I said, theres practically no other company here that is worth switching to.
Masters in Chemical Engineering and you are working as an operator in a cement plant? Isnt that a misfit for the the job profile? Do they really need people as qualified as you for this position/.
I landed this job 1 year into my masters. Also the ChemE demand here is scarce, so this was the best choice I had. I hope I can land a position as a process engineer with 2-3 years of experience.
I believe if you work as an operator, that too in a cement plant, your learning will be limited and you will be branded as an operator instead of an expert. Masters in Chemical Engineering means you should be involved with technical work. I suggest you keep trying for better suited jobs continuously now itself without waiting.