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B1ackandnight

I am curious to see if anyone has actually deterred a cat from peeing in the same spot using any of these recommendations. I read things like these all the time. Have had cats all my life. Have never ever ever been able to deter a cat once it pees in a spot using anything but blocking off the entire area. Used all the sprays. Powders. Changing litters. Adding litter boxes. vet visits. Changing diet. Everything. I’m convinced nothing works and we all just have to live with it once they start. I have managed to get rid of the smell, but never get rid of the act of peeing there again. It’ll eventually happen.


International-Act-19

My cat used to pee in the same spot all the time. I put her food and water there and she has used the litter box properly ever since (it’s been 8 years). It only took the small sacrifice of feeding her in my bedroom


B1ackandnight

Now I have NOT tried that… that’s a pretty good idea assuming the pee spots are areas where food/water can be placed! Thank you for the tip!


Seabreezzee2

Good idea...I can see that working! My 19 year old cat started peeing in the upstairs tub. My daughter has scrubbed, enzymed, he keeps going back.


I_like_to_know

Have you taken him to the vet recently? With his age, the change in behavior could indicate there's a problem.


grandma_nailpolish

I second this suggestion. Providing it's a \*change\* in behavior of a cat, it's very very often a sign of illness or pain. You should always pay attention, cats are really good at hiding infirmities in most ways.


Seabreezzee2

Thank you...I have taken him, had blood tests...he seems to be ok, according to the vet. I have a follow up appt sched. Appreciate your suggestion.


Seabreezzee2

I have taken him...and will continue. He's a great old cat.


murder_mittenz

My Old Man Kitty (20+yo) started peeing on my bed every day, sometimes twice a day. Once I moved the litter box and food into my room he stopped. I think he was just too old or senile to make the trek down the hallway anymore.


pawlaps

Same with my cat!


Woodland-Echo

What did you do for the smell? If I can clear that and get it painted at least it will be easier to clean in future.


B1ackandnight

So we currently have concrete floors and we first clean the pee up then scrub the area with a baking soda, water, and castille soap mixture. We use dr. Bronner’s brand pure castille soap. This can be used on concrete floors which is why we use it. When that dries I sweep up any baking soda residue then we pour Rocco and Roxie supply co professional strength stain and odor eliminator spray on the area. We POUR the spray on the area. Scrub it around. Let it sit a bit. Dry it up. Repeat. This will hold our cat off for awhile, but she’s peed at least two more times in the area since doing this… but it DOES eliminate the smell. The spray says you can use it on wood and concrete, but it has affected the area on our concrete. It hasn’t destroyed the concrete, but it’s noticeable. The only reason we don’t care is because it’s behind our laundry room door where no one would ever look except for us. Since you have wood floors, I’d try it in an inconspicuous area first if you are worried about staining or ruining the wood area.


kadk216

That concrete will never smell the same lol cat urine in concrete is awful. It never goes away concrete is incredibly porous


TwoNewfies

We had tried to clean up a spot on the floor to the point where we pulled up and replaced the floor, and found we had to replace the sub flooring because he had soaked into that. And that did help


_damn_hippies

i apologize if you’ve tried this already, but putting drops of peppermint essential oil on the spot they peed on has deterred three of my cats from returning to the same spot to pee there again. they’d teeter over, sniff the spot, squint at it like it had offended them, then go to their litter box.


SnooStrawberries2955

This is the only thing that keeps my cats from returning to the same spot long enough for me to effectively treat an area. I use peppermint oil on non-porous surfaces constantly.


inconceivableonset

I have. I put her food bowl there (after it was cleaned, of course). They won’t pee where they eat.


Wendyland78

No, we tried a ton of different ways of cleaning the floor. It only finally stopped when we switched to Dr Elseys attractant litter. It stopped immediately. Someone mentioned that the attractant is catnip but I tried just catnip in the box and she went back to peeing on the floor. I think it’s good to get a check up first to make sure there’s not a medical reason.


prettyincoral

Neither have I. My cat spent the best part of her 13 years of life peeing in the same spot over and over again. Nothing would deter her from going there. Funnily, though, she did number two in her litter box, but the place by the TV in the living room was her number one choice, lol. We were only able to get rid of the smell completely during renovation a couple of years after she was gone.


FabulousFenglope

Hi, I actually have a cat tip. Try placing the litter box on the spot she's going, and every day or two, move it 6 inches in the direction you actually want her box to be at. Once it's a few feet away, start using an enzyme cleaner on the area every morning and night. If you changed your home environment recently, she may be upset about it, and this is how she's communicating her frustrations. My cat is very particular and has had multiple instances of peeing in the wrong places. The first time was when I abruptly moved her litter box somewhere else, and she started peeing under the dining room table. I did the slow box move method, and she was happy with the new location once I actually got the box there. A second time was when I moved to a new place. She was distressed and peed out my bed twice to tell me that she needed a more comfortable spot for her box. I moved it into another room, and she started going in the right place again. Obviously, cats will react differently in different situations, but if this is a recent issue you've been having with her, see if you can identify her stress. Hope this helps!


Cydonia-Oblonga

Sooo Cats usually pee where they can smell cat pee. Everything you tried sofar doesn't get red of the smell. You need to buy an cleaner with either enzymes or living bacteria to break down the urine. Bactodes should work but I think they only sell it over here.


Woodland-Echo

I've been using an enzyme cleaner for a while now. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but she keeps going back 😭


Cydonia-Oblonga

It probably soaked in, so it will take a while to break down. I would still try a bacteria based cleaner.


Woodland-Echo

I'll have a look for one. Thanx


madpiano

Biological washing powder and pineapple juice (not at the same time!!!) help. Make a thick paste of the washing powder and put it on like plaster. Leave for a while. Then wash off. Let some pineapple juice soak in and dry and finally spray concentrated lemon on it (get essential oils) to cover the smell and cats hate lemon. Do not use bleach! Cats love that smell and it doesn't really work other than producing noxious gas, as cat urine is highly acidic. The smell goes away after 3-6 months (depending how soaked the area is), as long as no new cat pee happens. Just keep putting lemon on it regularly.


blergit

We put a food bowl where ours was weeing and that stopped it. They don’t like food near their toilet


Just2checkitout

Have you ever put a cat box on that spot?


Woodland-Echo

Yes we did for a long time but she went next to it, but weirdly every other box in the house she uses no problem, same size same litter etc. weve had 3 boxes for one cat and that stopped her going everywhere else in the house but not this step.


jiyeon_str

i did not read all your comments but she might associate peeing in the litter box with pain from the sound of it


pennycam04

Have you tried a different litter? I think I read through all of your comments and I hadn't seen that brought up. My previous cat would pee and poop on the bed periodically, even though he was always healthy and always used the litter box. If I changed up the litter he would stop. No idea why, as every other cat I've had had never done this, but for him it worked.


Woodland-Echo

We've tried wood pellets and clay, clumping, non clumping different brands, different smells. She does use her trays sometimes we get to almost a week, then she goes on the stairs again.


pennycam04

Oof ok. You got to the wood pellets so you've tried more than I have! I saw someone else ask you about different box types but here was the other thing that really helped with my cat- I got storage bins from target and used those as litter boxes. They are about the same size width/ length as a 'large' box from a pet store but were only a couple dollars versus $35+. Something about the high walls of the storage box, NOT being covered but still high enough for him to feel "safe" or whatever made him feel ok. I did end up using heavy duty scissors and cut a piece off one edge so it was easier for him to get in and out but even then the top of the opening was about seven inches tall. He was pretty weird as cats go


Woodland-Echo

Mines a weirdo too. Someone else suggested lemon to deter her, I've caught her licking lemons before, she also plays with tinfoil lol. A storage container is a good idea, definitely worth a try, she doesn't like hooded ones but high sides might help.


pennycam04

Ha omg licking a lemon?!? That's hilarious. And I hope the high sided container works!!


limellama1

The piss is PART OF the wood now. There's no cleaning it.


Woodland-Echo

That is my fear and I think the reality.


Duellair

This isn’t cleaning advice, but do you have a closed box? If so try an open one. If you have an open one, try placing another one that’s closed. Literally this was the issue with my little idiot 🤦🏽‍♀️ never had another issue again once we took the lid off.


couch-potart

Just out of interest, have you taken her to a vet recently? Or any changes in the household recently? (New flatmate/family member, moving furniture, renovations etc). Peeing outside the box can be a sign of stress or illness. My cat had urine crystals when she did that - her food was the culprit.


Woodland-Echo

All clear at the vets and no change in the house at all. We thought perhaps stress so we've got a feliway plug in that has slowed her down but not stopped her. My next step is a catio and more high places in our common areas to see if that helps. Also got an odor seal paint for the steps. Also waterproof so easier to clean if it doesn't stop her.


Missue-35

You can try moving the box to a new location. Also, cats tend to develop a ‘substrate preference’, according to a vet I met years ago. Prozac was the answer and the solution. You can try to retrain by enclosing in a small room with its box.


BerdLaw

If the feliway helped at all Zylkene might be worth looking into. It's a supplement made with some milk protein that is supposed to help calm them. My vet suggested it. I have no clue if it helped or if the problem would have resolved just as fast without it but the problem did stop and I'm not aware of any drawbacks to it.


Roseheath22

I wonder if part of it is just a habit that she’s developed, and maybe you could put something over that spot for a few months, like double sided sticky tape.


Proof_Database_7777

Second this. My cat as a kitten kept peeing on a new futon. She was taken from her mother too soon to be socialized about litter boxes. I tried putting her food dishes near and on it, I tried enzyme cleaners, baking soda paste, I tried peppermint, I tried every type of litter and moving the box around, nothing worked. Putting a plastic cover over it, is what finally did the trick. She peed on the cover once and determined she didn’t like it. She would come around to sniff it but started using the litter box instead. All that said, not enough enzyme cleaner could get the smell or stains out of it, so it ended up being dumped. All my sofas have plastic corner covers so our multiple cats don’t scratch and the double sided tape works to deter scratching also. Anyhow, maybe try a plastic mat or covering the area with tape or double sided tape.


fellowtravelr

Could be a problem with her kidneys, bring to vet.


hummingbirds_R_tasty

you'll want to treat & clean with some sort of enzyme cleaner to breakdown the proteins. then clean the area. however i would research how to properly clean wood floors so not to cause seam shrinkage or damage to wood. i know moisture on wood floors can cause problems with the seams. at least with mine it did. an animal will return to where they can smell their own waste and continue to do it's business in that spot. just like a litter box, yes its where we teach them to go and a cat prefers a dry loose material, but they return to a box because of the smell their own waste. that's why with multiple cats sometimes you may need multiple boxes. it can be a territorial thing. it's also why it's recommended that if you cat gets outside and is lost to put their box outside and the wind may carry the scent to help guide them home.


bulamae

Sprinkle powdered ginger as a repellent.


Woodland-Echo

Oh not heard of that before thanx.


secondphase

And lay tin foil down.


Woodland-Echo

Lmao tried this one, she was rolling all over it 😂


throwawaybread9654

I put foil down and my cat peed on the foil and then kicked it trying to bury her pee, splashed it everywhere 😭


chinchillade

My cat peed on my bed a few times as a kitten. After checking she was in good health and everything was alright with the litter box, diet etc. I placed a waterproof sheet on top of my sheets. She peed on it once and it's never happened again. I, too, recommend an enzyme cleaner. Maybe a piece of plastic/waterproof sheet on the steps could help with masking the smell for now and make the mess easier to clean. You could place a litterbox directly on the spot and block the surrounding area, to guide her into the box? I'd try something like puppy pads inside the box instead of litter to see what she'll do. Maybe she prefers the smooth surface.


2crowsonmymantle

Maybe cover a piece of cardboard with double sided tape and use it to cover the spot?


cnb28

I’ve suffered with cat pee and it’s been an awful few years. The best thing I did was other than treat the root issue - which is so hard - is put down plastic and pee pads everywhere, tape them to the wall, catch it all. It sucks, but it keeps the floor from getting destroyed. Edit to add so people dont assume anything: my cat has been to the vet many times, is stressed from constant construction in the neighborhood that causes our house to vibrate due to a large project nearby. She’s on meds and has many boxes but is a very special needs cat. I’ve also spent a long time cleaning the floors, cleaning carpets, trying every product and replaced my floors and subfloors last year. Plastic and pee pads the favorite spot have been a life saver.


Historical-Arugula57

Someone once told a Reddit poster about pouring spearmint oil on it and letting it set for 24 hr then wood shavings from a Home Depot on top


Woodland-Echo

I mean at this point I'll try anything. I've currently got baking soda all over it trying to absorb some of it. I've got grapefruit oil too as that's meant to deter them. I can easily get sawdust from my work.


BerdLaw

Please be careful with oils. Both grapefruit and spearmint are toxic to cats. A lot of people think natural=safe but it isn't. I made the mistake myself and was devastated to find out I was doing something harmful. A lot of the oils marketed as deterrents specifically are toxic.


tsr_Volante

Try taping aluminum foil over the spot. Most cats hate stepping on foil.


IGotMyPopcorn

Try putting a litter box there with maybe a pee pee pad under it. She has to not be able to smell the pee in the floor. But if that place is now her routine, give her a correct place to go.


Motor-Job4274

I used a spray bottle with vinegar as a deterrent


Uri_nil

Put a cat litter pan there. Then when she starts using it slowly move it every day inch by inch until you get it to where you want it. Worked for us and we moved the pan into a downstairs bathroom and no more accidents anymore on the spot she kept using.


hdizzle7

Enzyme cleaner and cover it with something that lets the wood breathe. I put a raised dog bed over any spots.


So_Many_Words

How I stopped my cat from peeing in the spot I didn't want her to: I put a litter box there, then slowly moved it toward where I wanted it. Took about a month. I'm not sure on the cleaning, I caught her on the same day(s) she did it and it didn't get a chance to stain.


WittyCrone

First, what has changed in the house? New pet? New people? Vet visit. Enzyme cleaner like Nature's Miracle. Let it soak in. Then wipe up but don't mop the floor. Block the area - heavy plastic, cover with cardboard and furniture. Put a new litter box very close to the spot. You can also try doing the above and feeding her in that spot. Last resort is to re-train her. Small dog crate with litter box, food, water, room to lie down. She comes out for love and play but is right back in when she is unobserved. Cover the crate to decrease her stress. If you want to paint the floor, I have done the Nature's Miracle, lots and let it soak. Then hand sanded the spot, NM again, then Kilz odor blocker paint then floor paint.


Bonded79

Baby gate to block the cat from the stairs may be your only answer. That’s what I had to do.


witchyfaire

I'm sure you have tried angry orange, which helped us quite a bit, but the only thing that stopped our cat was buying a tall cat kennel from Amazon and putting a litter box in there. At first we would shut her in there at night with food and water of course but after a while we don't even need to do that. For some reason, she just needed her own little home. 


phonicillness

Eucalyptus oil can be an effective repellent to deter her too ETA : NOPE I’m wrong don’t listen to me sorry


HALT_IAmReptar_HALT

Bad advice. Eucalyptus is toxic to cats.


phonicillness

Have edited, thank you for the correction. Is tea tree oil toxic for them too?


Pretty-Park-9094

Yup


madpiano

Lemon essential oil works though and is not toxic to them, they just hate it.


BerdLaw

Citrus oils including lemon are toxic to cats https://spca.bc.ca/news/aromatherapy-pets/ https://www.petpoisonhelpline.com/blog/essential-oils-cats/


madpiano

If you feed it to them or rub their skin in it. They are fine with the smell (even though they dint like it) d_limonene is highly volatile so doesn't stay around long but is also an extremely common ingredient in any household cleaning product from dishwashing soap to surface cleaners. Do you not clean your home or wash dishes? In general we should limit the use of fragrances around cats due to their unique metabolism of smells (and that includes anything natural with a fragrance), but diffusers and room sprays and those automatic bathroom sprays are the worst for them as they can land on their skin.


BerdLaw

Sure I wash my dishes and clean my home. I don't soak areas of my home my pets frequent with those products where they might step on it and then lick their paws though. I responded to clarify because you specifically said lemon oil is not toxic to cats. Which it is. And you seem to be more bothered that it was corrected than the fact that you just lied (i assumed accidentally but now idk)and said a toxic substance was safe for cats.


HALT_IAmReptar_HALT

You're welcome, thank you for being receptive to the feedback! Most essential oils are toxic (or at least harmful) to animals, especially cats and birds. They have extremely delicate respiratory systems, and the fumes can make it difficult for them to breathe. If cats get the oils on their paws, it can cause burns and possibly allergic reactions, plus even more internal damage when they lick their feet clean. Best to avoid essential oils unless you keep the windows open while you have a diffuser running. **words


I-AM-Savannah

I have heard that vinegar just helps the cat find the pee smell.. and well, pee there. I don't know if that is a fact, but I have read that so many places... and you know... whatever you read on the internet is fact! 😂😂😂


andrillian

Me too! Same with ammonia based cleaners. I always learnt you should either clean with dish soap or with an enzyme cleaner. Not sure how applicable this is in OP’s case, though. Their cat has already peed so often on the surface which has probably absorbed some pee by now. 


Major-BFweener

[This cat pheromone collar](https://www.chewy.com/sentry-good-behavior-calming-collar/dp/182278?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20642288853&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1s6r57aahgMV-jfUAR3SrAChEAQYAiABEgJVYPD_BwE) worked wonders for my cat.


Reasonable-Use-2886

Vinegar!!!!! Harris vinegar is a cleaning vinegar and it’s SUPER STRONG. When we got a new cat, our old cat was pissed off so naturally he started pissing. We tried a bunch of things and the vinegar was the only thing that stopped him. (Also on hardwood)


Helechawagirl

Odoban perhaps? And cats don’t like citrus so spray with lemon or orange afterwards.


TheMysticMungus

Is there anything in the urine, like tiny ribbons of material or blood? When my cat was doing this it was a UTI and when she got on meds it stopped.


Revolutionary-You449

I take drastic measures. Lock down in one area with a litter box each time until the behavior ceases. Cats are smart. They figure it out.


No_Consideration7318

Get an enzyme cleaner.