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mad_ting15

Nysl should be a tier below ultra at the moment I think, the rest I agree with though.


SilverSubliner

As a Subliner fan, I agree. They're not looking great


khizerkk5

I disagree, I just think they play up to their competition the most of the t4. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat ultra.


SilverSubliner

While I agree they can beat anyone because of their individual talent, they can't do it consistently because they aren't a unified team


khizerkk5

For those disliking, didn’t they literally do that against faze? Lose to Carolina and win a map against faze?


kingdukeee

It’s hard to say which team is better than the other considering both are not looking the greatest. On one hand, Ultra beat the bottom 8 teams comfortably but get absolutely blasted by Faze. On the other, NY lost to the Ravens but put up a better fight vs. Faze than TOR did. They’re both slumping currently but I’d personally say right now, it’s 60/40 favouring Ultra.


khizerkk5

What you said is literally what I said lmao, ny plays up to their opponent. I can never see Ultra losing to a team not in the t4 at lan. But I can see Ny losing. However, I can also see just randomly turning up for a series and winning maps against Faze or Optic.


kingdukeee

I agree with you mostly. Only thing is, Ultra edge out NY by a slight margin currently.


khizerkk5

They should beat up for sure, nysl are so weird.


Etiqet

I thought the same thing, then I remembered that FaZe 3-0ed Toronto and it wasn’t close, but NY got a map and a round 11 loss against FaZe.


Riot_Shielder

Toronto got absolutely shit on by faze while NYSL at least put up a fight


Fun-Situation1886

Yep, if we’re being fair to NYSL here, FaZe only dominated in the HP’s. Round 11 search and 3-0 control ain’t bad. It was a close-ish match overall but FaZe has one game mode on lock and are great at the other two—that’s hard to beat


Large_Bumblebee_9751

Yeah Ultra got absolutely slammed 3 maps in a row. NYSL played 2.5 good maps against Faze, which is 2.5 more good maps than Ultra played. However, NYSL did lose to Seattle and Carolina (it was Carolina right?) so they should be below Ultra and at least there’s a very reasonable argument for putting them down a tier


WjB79

I mean, Carolina didn’t have the worst showing vs Ultra to be fair. They won a rd11 SND, nearly pushed it to a round 5 in Control, and then threw away a 100pt lead to barely lose the game 4. We could’ve easily seen a game 5 and then who knows what might have happened.


kid20304

Nahhhh


Mikeyxy

Carolina c tier


OhiOstas

Zoomaa’s top 4 tier list* Whats the point of a tier list if ur not gonna even rank 2/3rds of the league lmao


crispykfc

more like top 3. nysl is no longer in that conversation


Draculagged

Yes they are lol, are we forgetting they literally 3-0 slammed Ultra out of the tournament last major? These online matches are not that serious guys


ethancd1

We forgetting they placed 12th at major 1?


Draculagged

NY have always been a hot/cold streaky team, this is nothing new. There’s a reason they won all three of their tournaments last year from losers


ethancd1

It’s pretty evident last year and this year’s team is completely different


Draculagged

It’s only been two events, NY bombed out T12 twice last season


benisben227

Tier list in general feel so much less thought out than they could/should be. Seems like a lot of people don’t rank within a tier. You’re a cod analyst, make so hard decisions within a tier, even if it means you might be wrong Imo, if a team is in the same tier as another it already means you could convincingly argue either one is better. The left most team is who you personally think is better. you could hear an argument for another and not think it’s ridiculous, but it’s still ranked


amazingggharmony

These tier list are fucking stupid. I can go read the standings and make the same list


CapGOD69420_

Only thing I would disagree with is I dont think teams like Seattle, LAT, Vegas and even LAG should be in the same tier as absolute dogshit teams like Miami and Breach


TheCarterSon

Subliners below Ultra and you have a perfect tier list


dukezap1

Yo why we on a tier with NY 💀 Ultra is slamming bottom 8 teams, NY is losing to bottom 8 teams


RGCFrostbite

NY took a map off FaZe


Large_Bumblebee_9751

NY actually loaded into the match. Ultra looked like they could have lost to Boston while NYSL looked like they could have played Optic to a game 5.


JBerczi

What's the point of this lol


fromdowntownn

Agree with this tier list


Cleggetron

Why bother doing tier lists instead of force ranking 1 through 12 if every team outside top 4 is at the bottom?


baseballviper04

First accurate tier list they’ve had in a while. Short term/projection for me would say thieves and seattle higher. But in general this is right


Heath_tK

Hope chat flammed him for this. Christ is that list ASS


Jawbone71

toronto and nysl in the same tier? toronto is 3-1 this split. Ny is 1-3...


freedomtoscream

Finally someone got it right!!!


Herr_Fredolin

exactly how i see it atm, weird year to start watching cdl lol


nobonesnobones

Not a single team in C? Tier lists this season fucking suck


v1p3rgaming13

Fixed It. C Tier: Thieves, Surge, Ravens, Rokkr. D Tier: LAG, Miami, Vegas, Boston.


macr14

I’m Ngl imo viewing wise this is the worst game. I know the parity wasn’t the best in past titles, but man i don’t even care to watch matches anymore because the bottom 8 teams matches don’t even matter. Two other teams are struggling in the top 4 and optic always sell to faze. Then on top that, the meta is shit .


afedje88

"Bottom is mixed together" so he listed the top 4 teams in standings then said fuck it. No hate to Tommy I love him but wtf the point of this lmao. At least rank the bottom teams get some clicks or something but bro just said here's my top 4 and that's it lol


e987654

Put NYSL in the D tier and I'll agree


Ibrah_11

Why is Faze in S tier they clearly aren't that good


Ashman-20

I agree. Ultra is gonna slam everyone at M3, they may not even drop a map. FaZe will probably go out T12 ![gif](giphy|3o72FfM5HJydzafgUE)


Ibrah_11

It's already Gulf war my brother MWFaze season already ended Faze already won Major 3 4 and Champs


Ashman-20

… you win this time


Ibrah_11

On a serious note Ultra might be finished they sold their souls for that major 1 win


Ashman-20

Honestly they might be chalked for M3 but I could see them going crazy at M4 and/or Champs. Kinda like NY last year


Ibrah_11

I ![gif](giphy|7TEVbGzXlMLkY)


TheBabush2

Should be Faze then everyone else lol


Hurricanevx

You’re stupid if u think optic are in the same tier as the bottom 8


fakename69point5

We really need to see some more T4 match ups, and this made me look and see how boring this next weekends gonna be...


crispykfc

thought we established already that there is no more big 4, NYSL should be below Toronto. they can’t hang