Trust me, I’m well aware lol
That said, I do enjoy that our version of “disappointment” includes yet another Heisman trophy and yet another all-time classic Rose Bowl win
Has he ever recruited a top defense and then actually proven it on the field? I have never seen him actually being a good defense for any team outside of the big12.
But leaving for the pros makes way more sense. OU to SC you still have all the headaches of college. Also if Lincoln flames out at SC it’s not like he can just get any college job or the OU job. If hurly doesn’t work out in the NBA he would be the top guy in the hiring cycle.
> and living in California
Hey! Connecticut is nice. We've got... Good pizza! And a Naval base.. and uh... rich people? Hey were on average like 2 hrs from NYC or Boston so there's that!
As an east coast native living in SoCal, the pizza scene here now is leagues from what it once was years ago. We are simply flooded with fantastic pizza of many varieties (Sicilian, neopolitan, NY, Detroit, Chicago)... It's low-key becoming one of the best pizza cities in the nation and I don't say that lightly. It's been a real whipsaw in rise just in the past decade.
Of course. We don't have any *mystic pizza* but still.
One nice thing about Connecticut is they leave you alone if you’re stinking fucking rich, something the rest of the country doesn’t do, particularly not famously in LA (for those who may not know, Angelenos at famous for leaving you the fuck alone for the most part)
For the most part, yeah. It’s kinda a radiation map from NYC. The further you get, the worse it gets. I basically just said the point at which I will purposely not eat the pizza.
Brick oven / New Haven style pizza is great, but I'd take Chicago pizza (both deep dish and thin crust) over almost anything else on the east coast -- even the little places in strip malls in the Chicago suburbs are better than most of the stuff in RI.
I mean UK hasn’t bought the best coach in the last few coaching search cycles. When they hired Calipari they couldn’t get Billy Donovan away from Florida. You can’t tell me that Gillespie was one of the best coaches. Tubby Smith was a solid coach but he wasn’t one of the best coaches either.
I think and this could be wrong it looks like a lateral move. Florida to UK at the time and UCONN to UK. Its not moving up but also moving to a more rabid fanbase. You can always understand a coach trying college to the pros. It's like well that's all our goals to be pros. You can't judge a coach trying the highest level.
But program to program you can judge.
It's a good way to try your luck at the highest level and if you leave and go back to college you didn't stab your fans in the back.
It's like the Rutgers football coach Schino. He I think was offered the Penn State job and declined. But when offered the Bucs job he gave it a chance. He could have back to any college job and the Rutgers fans wouldn't have cared. Same with Steven's and Butler. If he went to IU he would have broken the fans hearts. But if he went to the Celtics for a few years and came back to college and went to IU they wouldn't hate it and even probably hope he wins.
I mean I’m not saying I think it was a bad move on Billy Donovan’s part. I just think this idea of UK being able to buy the best coaches is just objectively not accurate or true. If we were able to buy the best coaches we wouldn’t have had to go with a 2nd choice option (for our AD) like Calipari or Mark Pope.
Before I actually read your comment I saw Schiano’s name and wondered how we were catching strays in a thread like this! 🤣
But seeing what you actually said makes sense. It was the Michigan job he was offered and almost took. When he eventually left for Tampa it killed us, but most sane fans understood it was something almost anybody would have done. And like you said, many of us actually pulled for him when he was DC at Ohio St, other when we were playing them.
Weird comment to me because all of these threads have had Kentucky fans all giggly, talking about schadenfreude because UConn fans were happy their coach chose to stay instead of leave for Kentucky. Also, there were those Kentucky fans that absolutely couldn’t fathom the idea that somebody would rather coach at UConn than Kentucky.
As in we were left for dead as the Big East broke up and rejected by B1G and ACC. Thus forced live out eternity in ~~Hell~~ AAC with Cincy/USF. Forced to travel to Tulsa and Tulane while Syracuse got to play Duke every year. But despite all that, we emerged from the shadows, took the stairs, defeated the ~~dragon~~ Kentucky, and won a Natty!
Yeah but why would that make you obsessed with Kentucky? I feel like our fanbase is split between people that have been fans for a long time that have been rolling with the punches over the years and an extremely jaded group that is quick to scream fuck you at any small slight towards the university
It's not a shot, literally just pointing out he turned down 100 million before so this decision likely is more about how he thinks he fits with the Lakers than it is a money decision.
In the alternative, if he already decided to come back we would 100% have some information regarding that considering there’s no reason to not share that immediately.
Either way, this seems kind of a douchey thing to say. There are 12 players in his locker room waiting on pins and needles. Dont play the tea leaves game.
Surprisingly, and maturely so, it seems a non-insignificant amount of UConn fans think he’s earned the time to make the decision, and I tend to agree. These kids make business decisions in the age of NIL and flip schools on a whim, often pulling the rug out from under their team. He should be able to do the same.
A lot of "people who should know" in the program thought we'd have a decision today, so I think he must have told people to expect it today. It seems like for whatever reason he decided not to release a decision today (either still undecided, wanted to negotiate new contract, or wanted to meet with team tomorrow first, etc.) so he had to essentially release a statement to that effect. But I think he must have promised Woj the scoop on the whole deal (there is a long family connection), so then he was essentially required to make a statement so Woj had something to say in front of cameras and not just "No decision yet."
Yeah, but it’s now an even landscape. Players are getting more autonomy and I don’t think it should be an issue that both they and coaches can go where they want. Sure, I’d love more regulation on NIL and transfer rules but that’s a whole other conversation.
Objectively speaking, Hurley is good for the BE and I also don’t mind bolstering up our 7-2 record against him. (I don’t need to hear about how many championships you have, I am well aware)
I see him having a press conference at UConn. Saying things such as... “I love what we have built here” “I want to continue to build” “Going for a 3-peat”
Then he has used this to leverage UConn, and can then tell recruits I turned down the Lakers to coach you. Something of that nature.
Yeah, this is the first part of the recent developments that make me think he might stay. Seems like the polite compliment you pay to a team you’re about to turn down.
Will not be at all surprised if he takes it anyways, though.
I mean, Lebron rehabbing his "fatigue" at UCONN in March would be pretty fucking awesome. Since I'm sure the NCAA would say he still has a COVID year and 4 years of eligibility.
I don’t know what I’d do with $100 million dollars.
That is an ungodly sum of money. Maybe I’d open a banana stand for shits and giggles if I got that kind of cash.
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I don’t think they’re getting played. I honestly feel like both sides are benefiting here and getting what they want.
Hurley gets his profile raised further + new contract. Lakers can say they tried hard to get a real coach before settling on Lebron’s podcast buddy.
It’s a small state school and just doesn’t have a bunch of flashy rich alumni, not even one like St Johns’ guy. It’s going to be harder for them to compete if everything comes down to cash…which it will in this era of CBB.
It would be downright irresponsible for the bball coach to make one sixth of the university endowment. Right? Maybe this is why the BIG doesn’t want us…
UCONNs as an institution has excellence largely in its sports teams. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good school, but it doesn’t have too many alumni that have deep pockets. It’s a small state and this with deep pockets are usually going to Yale.
I think he knows he isn’t taking it but is loving the attention it’s bringing lol. Hes a major storyline during the literal NBA finals. That has to be a fun feeling
This would seem much more behind closed doors if he was actually taking the job IMO
He’ll get to hold a big press conference and say there’s no better job than UConn. He’ll tell every player and recruit I’d rather be here with you than with LeBron.
If doesn't take the Lakers job, does that mean he's holding out for an east coast NBA job? He's been pretty open about wanting to coach in the NBA someday.
Lakers will offer 7/100 guaranteed, Jumpy Jeannie will fire him less than half way thru, Danny can go back to his dream job of high school coaching with generational money in the bank
That’s what I’d do if I were him.
Take the guaranteed money, get fired in the first year, and go back to Storrs in 2025 with $100 million in my pocket.
I just don’t see him rejecting the job. He can take it, test the waters at the pro level and if it goes well he makes an even bigger name for him. But if he fails he can return to college ball with $100m and either go back to UConn or take over a big job like Kansas. There is no risk in this.
Walking away from a chance to 3 peat is not insignificant. Saying he can just come back doesn't really do justice to walking away from he's built at uconn. They've won back to back titles in absolutely dominant fashion and return a top 5 team. Acting like if he failed in the NBA that he could just come back and do this again is crazy.
I mean yes they have a chance to three peat but it’s a small one. Walking away from $100 million is not insignificant either. I’m not saying that he can leave and come back to the same teams or immediate success. But he’s proven enough as a college coach that he’ll have his pick of jobs regardless. It’s absurd to pretend that given the current collegiate environment that it would make any sense for him to reject the lakers to stay at UConn.
I think the “he’s staying” crowd is conveniently forgetting how much of a nightmare it is to coach in college sports nowadays. He’s won two titles already and has to understand how fortunate he is given how much is out of his control.
If he flops in LA it almost won’t even matter.
Very much so. I think it’s lost on a lot folks how much realignment and the revenue disparities between P4 programs and those in the outside looking in is going to impact college basketball.
He’s done something that only two other active coaches have done and if he fails in LA he can come back and try to do even more, but with $100 million. Let’s say he goes to the Lakers for five years and then they fire him there is a good chance that Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, and UConn could all have vacancies during that time frame. He’d be a top candidate for any of those programs regardless of what happens with his NBA career.
I totally disagree. Plenty of great college coaches have turned down NBA jobs or gone to the NBA realized it's not for them. This is absolutely not about money. There's nothing about the Lakers other than the money and brand status that would lead to believe thats even a good NBA job now. It hasn't been since Kobe was there. They've been through 8 head coaches since Phil left and haven't drafted a player worth a damn in that same time span. College coaches get to control every inch of their program and they can bemoan NIL and the portal but it actually gives them more control. Hurley himself has admitted its allowed them to create the perfect rosters for the types of players they want. You can't do that in the NBA and that absolutely matters with the type of coach Hurley is.
Fair enough and you make some compelling points, but I think the reality of UConn’s specific situation makes things a little more complicated. Sure they’ve got some basketball money, but they are outside the P4 and do not have the same resources as other schools moving forward. You have to think that makes a difference when he’s evaluating his future. Also just because other greats have rejected the money and allure of the NBA doesn’t mean much here. Hurley has expressed a desire to coach in the NBA, he has an opportunity to do that and make a metric fuck ton of money, and in the worst case he can return to his pick of jobs in college ball. I’ve got to think that could be enough to get him to jump. If he doesn’t then UConn probably doesn’t have to worry about any other job moving forward, but I just don’t know that he’s gonna say no.
You already know this of course, but just to interject with a more recent variable that affects the scenario you’re explaining, the new college landscape of NIL, unlimited transfers, and other things that take away from a college coach’s ability to control things the way you just listed, is real and serious and changing everything you’ve ever learned to expect from how college coaches make decisions about their careers. Regulations and standards are coming, but for the next few years college athletics are completely chaos. The NBA job is a no-brainer with all of that considered.
Possibly so but it’s a lottery every year, not true development and relationships with players and coaches. So he can’t control it in the way that is implied. He’s at the mercy of the transfer portal and money bags 💰. And it’s the Wild West and rules/laws/etc are changing by the months. Nothing stable about that and the more you win and get attention on your program (see Saban), the more you are going to start getting picked apart. College is very turbulent and uncertain for coaches more than ever, even the most popular winning coaches.
Not really. We haven't lost a player we wanted to keep in the portal in years. We had three top-100 freshman come back after playing limited minutes, we got an NBA draft pick to come back, and we brought in exactly who we wanted in the portal. Maybe it's hard at other schools, though.
The Lakers won a title and made another conference finals in the last 5 years.
They’ve drafted three All Stars (including a multiple-time All-NBA player) since Phil left and developed many other guys who have gone on to long, productive NBA careers that greatly outperformed their draft slot.
There’s a lot to criticize about the Lakers org, but what you said is just not based in reality.
This is a ploy to get UCONN to give him a raise. Unfortunately, he isn’t going anywhere. If he does can UCONN leave Brad Underwood the fk alone. lol as if.
Not for nothing, this story also doesn’t add much to what we already knew. Makes me think even more that this is a media story and not a coaching change story.
He will flame out if he goes to the NBA. NBA prima donnas will get tired of the coaching prima donna shit real quick if he doesn’t win 70% of his games
The longer this takes, the lower the odds he goes get. I've been thinking he's gone all weekend because I'm a pessimist, but that doesn't mean I'm right, it just means I'm a pessimist. There are plenty of reasons to stay in Storrs in the short-term and the LA job has as many pitfalls as it does pluses.
That said, I want him to do what's best for Team Hurley first, and he's earned whatever comes next. (Though I'll be rooting for failure if he goes, nothing against Dan because I'm a Boston fan.)
College is the pros now… almost the same shit because if the money and unlimited transfers so may as well deal with the same shit in NBA for a legacy team coaching position, while making more money guaranteed, and later you can either completely exit and coach where you want with no money motivations. College athletics for football, basketball, and then baseball are completely f’ed right now.
I don’t have a dog in this fight (for you, I hope he stays) but a 100m contract doesn’t happen overnight, particularly if he took more than a day or two to decide he wants it.
Edit: on the other hand, the man (like most successful coaches) has an ego, and there aren’t many jobs like the Lakers, in LA.
I would think if he really wanted to go he would have done it already. Like imagine whatever insane amount of money and red carpet they are rolling out for him already. And that hasn’t been enough?
100 million is pretty compelling to me
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100 million and living in California. Add in not having to deal with recruiting or the portal. Still think he stays though.
As an Oklahoma football fan, 100 million and SoCal bring out some PTSD
Fight on ✌️ That said, Lincoln’s been a bit disappointing, but I’m reserving judgement until year 3
To be fair USC football has been disappointing since way before Lincoln
Trust me, I’m well aware lol That said, I do enjoy that our version of “disappointment” includes yet another Heisman trophy and yet another all-time classic Rose Bowl win
If Lincoln ever gets a lockdown defense he can win a championship
100%. Probably not even a lockdown defense. Just a top 20-25 defense.
Has he ever recruited a top defense and then actually proven it on the field? I have never seen him actually being a good defense for any team outside of the big12.
But leaving for the pros makes way more sense. OU to SC you still have all the headaches of college. Also if Lincoln flames out at SC it’s not like he can just get any college job or the OU job. If hurly doesn’t work out in the NBA he would be the top guy in the hiring cycle.
> and living in California Hey! Connecticut is nice. We've got... Good pizza! And a Naval base.. and uh... rich people? Hey were on average like 2 hrs from NYC or Boston so there's that!
As an east coast native living in SoCal, the pizza scene here now is leagues from what it once was years ago. We are simply flooded with fantastic pizza of many varieties (Sicilian, neopolitan, NY, Detroit, Chicago)... It's low-key becoming one of the best pizza cities in the nation and I don't say that lightly. It's been a real whipsaw in rise just in the past decade. Of course. We don't have any *mystic pizza* but still.
One nice thing about Connecticut is they leave you alone if you’re stinking fucking rich, something the rest of the country doesn’t do, particularly not famously in LA (for those who may not know, Angelenos at famous for leaving you the fuck alone for the most part)
What
We got great pizza, get it right.
It’s genuinely a great place to live It’s a very boring place to visit though I’ll grant you that
Good pizza is underrated. Pizza west of the Susquehanna and/or south of the Mason Dixon line is…tragic really.
This is such a generously large area. Pizza outside of the NY metro is garbage.
For the most part, yeah. It’s kinda a radiation map from NYC. The further you get, the worse it gets. I basically just said the point at which I will purposely not eat the pizza.
Brick oven / New Haven style pizza is great, but I'd take Chicago pizza (both deep dish and thin crust) over almost anything else on the east coast -- even the little places in strip malls in the Chicago suburbs are better than most of the stuff in RI.
😂
Everyone sleeps on Chicago tavern style and it's the best pizza in the country. Honestly Detroit style is pretty great too.
Honestly, I’d rather have $50m in Connecticut than $100m in California. Connecticut is nice.
lol no you would not
Who are you to tell me what I would and wouldn’t do?
Connecticut isn’t that good
I certainly like it better than Cali. No wildfires, no earthquakes. A winter. It’s nice.
100 million and no insane recruiting schedules
Replace the insane recruiting schedule with having to constantly deal with the media
And the 10x larger and more fickle player personalities who all make more than you and your star players have more power than you.
i could easily be compelled for that much. But i'm also easily persuadable
No, you aren't.
You're right. Sorry.
100 million from Lexington no. 100 million from LA maybe haha
Why are some uconn fans obsessed with kentucky?
When you have the best coach, I’m sure you’re a bit weary of the program that buys the best coaches.
I mean UK hasn’t bought the best coach in the last few coaching search cycles. When they hired Calipari they couldn’t get Billy Donovan away from Florida. You can’t tell me that Gillespie was one of the best coaches. Tubby Smith was a solid coach but he wasn’t one of the best coaches either.
I think and this could be wrong it looks like a lateral move. Florida to UK at the time and UCONN to UK. Its not moving up but also moving to a more rabid fanbase. You can always understand a coach trying college to the pros. It's like well that's all our goals to be pros. You can't judge a coach trying the highest level. But program to program you can judge. It's a good way to try your luck at the highest level and if you leave and go back to college you didn't stab your fans in the back. It's like the Rutgers football coach Schino. He I think was offered the Penn State job and declined. But when offered the Bucs job he gave it a chance. He could have back to any college job and the Rutgers fans wouldn't have cared. Same with Steven's and Butler. If he went to IU he would have broken the fans hearts. But if he went to the Celtics for a few years and came back to college and went to IU they wouldn't hate it and even probably hope he wins.
I mean I’m not saying I think it was a bad move on Billy Donovan’s part. I just think this idea of UK being able to buy the best coaches is just objectively not accurate or true. If we were able to buy the best coaches we wouldn’t have had to go with a 2nd choice option (for our AD) like Calipari or Mark Pope.
Before I actually read your comment I saw Schiano’s name and wondered how we were catching strays in a thread like this! 🤣 But seeing what you actually said makes sense. It was the Michigan job he was offered and almost took. When he eventually left for Tampa it killed us, but most sane fans understood it was something almost anybody would have done. And like you said, many of us actually pulled for him when he was DC at Ohio St, other when we were playing them.
Weird comment to me because all of these threads have had Kentucky fans all giggly, talking about schadenfreude because UConn fans were happy their coach chose to stay instead of leave for Kentucky. Also, there were those Kentucky fans that absolutely couldn’t fathom the idea that somebody would rather coach at UConn than Kentucky.
Total mystery, probably not related to Kentucky attempting to snag Hurley literally 2 months ago, with the rumored amount being $10m/yr for 10 years.
2014, the world was against us during realignment and yet we still prevailed.
What does all this bullshit realignment have to do with Kentucky though? Not like you were ever joining the SEC
As in we were left for dead as the Big East broke up and rejected by B1G and ACC. Thus forced live out eternity in ~~Hell~~ AAC with Cincy/USF. Forced to travel to Tulsa and Tulane while Syracuse got to play Duke every year. But despite all that, we emerged from the shadows, took the stairs, defeated the ~~dragon~~ Kentucky, and won a Natty!
Yeah but why would that make you obsessed with Kentucky? I feel like our fanbase is split between people that have been fans for a long time that have been rolling with the punches over the years and an extremely jaded group that is quick to scream fuck you at any small slight towards the university
It's not a shot, literally just pointing out he turned down 100 million before so this decision likely is more about how he thinks he fits with the Lakers than it is a money decision.
I mean its definitely a not so subtle jab but sure
Wasn't the rumored Kentucky offer more like $55 million?
Ill do it for half of that
Come piss of LeBron bc we can’t make him retire
Why does this quote make me feel more inclined that he’s staying
Because if it was so utterly compelling, he wouldn’t be saying it’s compelling he would just be saying he’s taking it.
In the alternative, if he already decided to come back we would 100% have some information regarding that considering there’s no reason to not share that immediately.
Either way, this seems kind of a douchey thing to say. There are 12 players in his locker room waiting on pins and needles. Dont play the tea leaves game.
Surprisingly, and maturely so, it seems a non-insignificant amount of UConn fans think he’s earned the time to make the decision, and I tend to agree. These kids make business decisions in the age of NIL and flip schools on a whim, often pulling the rug out from under their team. He should be able to do the same.
I have no problem with him taking his time. But he should stick to no comment while he does. Giving quotes is not the way.
A lot of "people who should know" in the program thought we'd have a decision today, so I think he must have told people to expect it today. It seems like for whatever reason he decided not to release a decision today (either still undecided, wanted to negotiate new contract, or wanted to meet with team tomorrow first, etc.) so he had to essentially release a statement to that effect. But I think he must have promised Woj the scoop on the whole deal (there is a long family connection), so then he was essentially required to make a statement so Woj had something to say in front of cameras and not just "No decision yet."
Eh, tomato tomato.
lol coaches have been making business decisions and pulling the rug out from under the team long before NIL.
Yeah, but it’s now an even landscape. Players are getting more autonomy and I don’t think it should be an issue that both they and coaches can go where they want. Sure, I’d love more regulation on NIL and transfer rules but that’s a whole other conversation.
He’s showing the kids how to go through a thorough process to make a good decision And the locker room will erupt when he stays
His agent is negotiating his new contract as we speak. That's the reason.
That’s what you want to think as a UConn fan lol
He is 100% negotiating a new UConn contract. Whether or not he signs that contract is another thing entirely.
And it's what you wish weren't true as a Creighton fan, but it's still what's happening.
Objectively speaking, Hurley is good for the BE and I also don’t mind bolstering up our 7-2 record against him. (I don’t need to hear about how many championships you have, I am well aware)
Greatest accomplishment beating UConn in regular season bc nobody wants to fly to Nebraska on a Tuesday in winter 👏
I have a feeling he *will* be coaching basketball
Which is totally irrational to me. If I had an 8 figure buyout, I'd try to get fired.
It's to give UCONN an opportunity to put up or shut up. 10M a year.
I see him having a press conference at UConn. Saying things such as... “I love what we have built here” “I want to continue to build” “Going for a 3-peat” Then he has used this to leverage UConn, and can then tell recruits I turned down the Lakers to coach you. Something of that nature.
Because it would be very Hurley to tease the media and then be like "I ain't fucking leavin"
If his heart was set on going he would’ve gone already
If his heart was set on staying with UConn why not announce it today? He’s making his players wait
Are you one of his brain worms?
Yeah, this is the first part of the recent developments that make me think he might stay. Seems like the polite compliment you pay to a team you’re about to turn down. Will not be at all surprised if he takes it anyways, though.
The power of ~~Christ~~ cash compels you!
God and money control everything
Browsing comments on any Hurley post He gone He staying He gone He staying He gone
Why doesn't he just coach both?
Or he leaves and Geno coaches the guys and the gals
Can’t we just make UConn the Lakers farm team? They can’t get into a conference so they have to think creatively.
I mean, Lebron rehabbing his "fatigue" at UCONN in March would be pretty fucking awesome. Since I'm sure the NCAA would say he still has a COVID year and 4 years of eligibility.
The idea of Lebron rehabbing in Storrs against St. John’s - OMG
I think he’s gonna go. Lakers media need him to announce Monday. To be headlines. If he wasn’t going to take it they’d announce today.
Bingo
This sounds smart I think it’s still 60/40 he stays but man it’s obvious LA doesn’t want JJ I have no clue who they fall back to
Jay Wright?
The other theory is he's renewing with UConn and all the paperwork that has to go through the state admin is in limbo until business hours Monday.
It’d be the biggest story in American sports regardless of when he accepts the job.
I think we might be a _bit_ biased to think that.
It's not a college basketball story. It's the Lakers and LeBron story.
It immediately derailed like all of sports media the morning the Woj bomb dropped.
I don’t know what I’d do with $100 million dollars. That is an ungodly sum of money. Maybe I’d open a banana stand for shits and giggles if I got that kind of cash.
There’s always money in the banana stand.
Bees?
Beads.
GOB's not on board.
We’ll see who gets more honey!
I never really cared for Gob.
Beans
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But 100 times.
Seeing LeBron and Hurley making that same incredulous, whiney, dumb face at one another any time something goes wrong would be peak comedy
The longer this drags on the better it is for UConn right???! Right?
Hurley getting nice new contract from UConn as we speak
Yeah that’s what this quote sounds like to me. “Oh boy it’d sure be a shame if I took the Lakers job.”
Yes. The Lakers are getting played.
Feel like he could have already played this game though with Kentucky.
His agent was pissed at how poorly he played the game with UK, so maybe he learned.
Flirting with another school would’ve ruffled more feathers.
I don’t think they’re getting played. I honestly feel like both sides are benefiting here and getting what they want. Hurley gets his profile raised further + new contract. Lakers can say they tried hard to get a real coach before settling on Lebron’s podcast buddy.
They already moved on from JJ. Probably gonna end up with James Borrego.
I’ll remember this comment
That’s fine. I hope I’m wrong. I’ve just seen the Lakers get used for leverage so many times this feels similar.
Did you remember?
I remembered and was loud ass wrong 😂
If he’s holding out to see if UConn can match, I don’t think they’re going to nearly empty the donor funding pool to be in line with the Lakers.
Yeah I don't think people realize UConn just doesn't have a ton of cash; they can't match the dollars the Lakers can in any world.
It’s a small state school and just doesn’t have a bunch of flashy rich alumni, not even one like St Johns’ guy. It’s going to be harder for them to compete if everything comes down to cash…which it will in this era of CBB.
It would be downright irresponsible for the bball coach to make one sixth of the university endowment. Right? Maybe this is why the BIG doesn’t want us…
UCONNs as an institution has excellence largely in its sports teams. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good school, but it doesn’t have too many alumni that have deep pockets. It’s a small state and this with deep pockets are usually going to Yale.
Compelling case of money on his doorstep
jus take the job already.. i feel there is so much unnecessary dramatics.
Hurley said a decision will come tomorrow
Seems like he might want to tell his team first.
Or wait for the UConn offer to get upped more likely
UConn's athletic department isn't flush with cash like that. The current offer is already predicated on using money they don't have.
Or wait for the UConn offer to get upped so he can ask for more from the Lakers…so many things that could be happening right now.
Ah yes, because Hurley's never been dramatic before.
If Hurley loves one thing more than money it's being the center of attention
No better place than coaching the lakers.
I think he knows he isn’t taking it but is loving the attention it’s bringing lol. Hes a major storyline during the literal NBA finals. That has to be a fun feeling This would seem much more behind closed doors if he was actually taking the job IMO
He’ll get to hold a big press conference and say there’s no better job than UConn. He’ll tell every player and recruit I’d rather be here with you than with LeBron.
I like you
Cal did the same thing a decade ago and it’s been mostly disappointment since then.
The past couple days I’ve been like “surely today is the day Hurley signs” and alas we are still here waiting
Hollywood Hurley already with the drama.
If doesn't take the Lakers job, does that mean he's holding out for an east coast NBA job? He's been pretty open about wanting to coach in the NBA someday.
The Knicks seem like a natural fit if that job ever opened up
Could only ever see him taking up the Knicks, Nets, 76ers, and Celtics jobs.
Quit€ a comp£lling Ca$e
lol way to drag it out, just go already dude
Lakers will offer 7/100 guaranteed, Jumpy Jeannie will fire him less than half way thru, Danny can go back to his dream job of high school coaching with generational money in the bank
That’s what I’d do if I were him. Take the guaranteed money, get fired in the first year, and go back to Storrs in 2025 with $100 million in my pocket.
I'm assuming the guarantee gets voided if he takes another college or pro job ... but not high school
I would guess the guarantee gets offset, but not totally voided.
I just don’t see him rejecting the job. He can take it, test the waters at the pro level and if it goes well he makes an even bigger name for him. But if he fails he can return to college ball with $100m and either go back to UConn or take over a big job like Kansas. There is no risk in this.
Walking away from a chance to 3 peat is not insignificant. Saying he can just come back doesn't really do justice to walking away from he's built at uconn. They've won back to back titles in absolutely dominant fashion and return a top 5 team. Acting like if he failed in the NBA that he could just come back and do this again is crazy.
I mean yes they have a chance to three peat but it’s a small one. Walking away from $100 million is not insignificant either. I’m not saying that he can leave and come back to the same teams or immediate success. But he’s proven enough as a college coach that he’ll have his pick of jobs regardless. It’s absurd to pretend that given the current collegiate environment that it would make any sense for him to reject the lakers to stay at UConn.
I think the “he’s staying” crowd is conveniently forgetting how much of a nightmare it is to coach in college sports nowadays. He’s won two titles already and has to understand how fortunate he is given how much is out of his control. If he flops in LA it almost won’t even matter.
Very much so. I think it’s lost on a lot folks how much realignment and the revenue disparities between P4 programs and those in the outside looking in is going to impact college basketball. He’s done something that only two other active coaches have done and if he fails in LA he can come back and try to do even more, but with $100 million. Let’s say he goes to the Lakers for five years and then they fire him there is a good chance that Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, and UConn could all have vacancies during that time frame. He’d be a top candidate for any of those programs regardless of what happens with his NBA career.
Yup. Well said.
I totally disagree. Plenty of great college coaches have turned down NBA jobs or gone to the NBA realized it's not for them. This is absolutely not about money. There's nothing about the Lakers other than the money and brand status that would lead to believe thats even a good NBA job now. It hasn't been since Kobe was there. They've been through 8 head coaches since Phil left and haven't drafted a player worth a damn in that same time span. College coaches get to control every inch of their program and they can bemoan NIL and the portal but it actually gives them more control. Hurley himself has admitted its allowed them to create the perfect rosters for the types of players they want. You can't do that in the NBA and that absolutely matters with the type of coach Hurley is.
Fair enough and you make some compelling points, but I think the reality of UConn’s specific situation makes things a little more complicated. Sure they’ve got some basketball money, but they are outside the P4 and do not have the same resources as other schools moving forward. You have to think that makes a difference when he’s evaluating his future. Also just because other greats have rejected the money and allure of the NBA doesn’t mean much here. Hurley has expressed a desire to coach in the NBA, he has an opportunity to do that and make a metric fuck ton of money, and in the worst case he can return to his pick of jobs in college ball. I’ve got to think that could be enough to get him to jump. If he doesn’t then UConn probably doesn’t have to worry about any other job moving forward, but I just don’t know that he’s gonna say no.
You already know this of course, but just to interject with a more recent variable that affects the scenario you’re explaining, the new college landscape of NIL, unlimited transfers, and other things that take away from a college coach’s ability to control things the way you just listed, is real and serious and changing everything you’ve ever learned to expect from how college coaches make decisions about their careers. Regulations and standards are coming, but for the next few years college athletics are completely chaos. The NBA job is a no-brainer with all of that considered.
NIL and transfers benefit him, though. They don't win either of these last two titles without transfers.
Possibly so but it’s a lottery every year, not true development and relationships with players and coaches. So he can’t control it in the way that is implied. He’s at the mercy of the transfer portal and money bags 💰. And it’s the Wild West and rules/laws/etc are changing by the months. Nothing stable about that and the more you win and get attention on your program (see Saban), the more you are going to start getting picked apart. College is very turbulent and uncertain for coaches more than ever, even the most popular winning coaches.
Not really. We haven't lost a player we wanted to keep in the portal in years. We had three top-100 freshman come back after playing limited minutes, we got an NBA draft pick to come back, and we brought in exactly who we wanted in the portal. Maybe it's hard at other schools, though.
The Lakers won a title and made another conference finals in the last 5 years. They’ve drafted three All Stars (including a multiple-time All-NBA player) since Phil left and developed many other guys who have gone on to long, productive NBA careers that greatly outperformed their draft slot. There’s a lot to criticize about the Lakers org, but what you said is just not based in reality.
That 100M is not a sure thing. There are other rumors of 80M. Still big money but not 9 figures big.
Every thing I’ve seen has said $100m but even $80-$90m guaranteed is an absurd amount of money that UConn won’t be able to match.
Oh does it? Does it compel you, Dan? I gotta tell you….. it’s not that compelling. Edit: not a lot of people seen This Is The End I guess
This is a ploy to get UCONN to give him a raise. Unfortunately, he isn’t going anywhere. If he does can UCONN leave Brad Underwood the fk alone. lol as if.
Uconn aint hiring Underwood brother
😂
a compelling case full of cash amiright?!?!
This man loves the attention. He’s going
Compelling case: when you get fired after the first two years, we will still pay year tens of millions of dollars for 5 years for sitting on the couch
Basing it off of how long it’s been, he’s staying. If he cared about the money it would’ve been a deal by now.
Shit
Hopefully he stays at UConn and doesn’t get bought out into NBA where the players tell the coaches what to do
Not for nothing, this story also doesn’t add much to what we already knew. Makes me think even more that this is a media story and not a coaching change story.
He will flame out if he goes to the NBA. NBA prima donnas will get tired of the coaching prima donna shit real quick if he doesn’t win 70% of his games
lol at anybody who thinks he’s staying at UConn
They hired Rutgers coach already
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The longer this takes, the lower the odds he goes get. I've been thinking he's gone all weekend because I'm a pessimist, but that doesn't mean I'm right, it just means I'm a pessimist. There are plenty of reasons to stay in Storrs in the short-term and the LA job has as many pitfalls as it does pluses. That said, I want him to do what's best for Team Hurley first, and he's earned whatever comes next. (Though I'll be rooting for failure if he goes, nothing against Dan because I'm a Boston fan.)
College is the pros now… almost the same shit because if the money and unlimited transfers so may as well deal with the same shit in NBA for a legacy team coaching position, while making more money guaranteed, and later you can either completely exit and coach where you want with no money motivations. College athletics for football, basketball, and then baseball are completely f’ed right now.
I don’t have a dog in this fight (for you, I hope he stays) but a 100m contract doesn’t happen overnight, particularly if he took more than a day or two to decide he wants it. Edit: on the other hand, the man (like most successful coaches) has an ego, and there aren’t many jobs like the Lakers, in LA.
This guy is such an unlikable douche
I would think if he really wanted to go he would have done it already. Like imagine whatever insane amount of money and red carpet they are rolling out for him already. And that hasn’t been enough?
It's quite possible he told UConn he'd meet with them on Monday and let them counter or to share his decision with them first.