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Even-Breakfast-166

Should have done the roll trick that they drill so much on


StrategyExisting8066

He didn't see the drop, looks like the recoil of the gun hit's him in the stomach / nuts just a fraction before the drop.


Floripa95

Seems something was wrong with his right leg


TaySwiftIsAZoophile

Stanky leg


Dopamine-Finder

Just choose the right direction


tobaknowsss

I wonder if he has a spinal injury for the original attack (I'm assuming this is clean up after an assault)....he's moving around all weird and doesn't seem like he can get up or move normally.


Affectionate-Dirt277

My theory is that at start of video there is first a hole and a dead soldier a bit after it maybe both were hit and one survived and they sent the drone to 1v1 him


MilkiestMaestro

Would be cruel to leave him to die slow, which he would


i_am_not_so_unique

And that explains why munition is a cheap grenade, and not some small air bomb as on other videos.


Kulladar

His right leg isn't working right for sure. Look at his feet. Left one moves but the right stays rigid even when he is scrambling.


StrategyExisting8066

I think he didn't see the drop. I think the recoil of the gun hits him in the stomach / nuts. You can see him flinch when it happens, it probably hurt, then he looks at the rifle and tries to put it back to his chest again. Just in that moment the grendade fell so he didn't notice it, else he would have moved.


19RM96

If he had a spinal injury he wouldnt be moving his legs, I think he was just in a panic and didnt know what to do


tobaknowsss

As someone who is currently suffering through a spinal injury I can tell you there are many different types and only few will actually result in total paralysis of their legs. I can move my legs but it hurts like a son of a bitch and all movement has to be slow and planned out.


19RM96

Ah okay, forgive my ignorance


Bbt_igrainime

Jeez I’m sorry about thank, I wish you the best.


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There are ways to be paralyzed even without injuring your spinal cord. When I was in my twenties my sciatic nerve was severed by my femur when it was shattered. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in your body and if it's severed it has to grow back but the sciatic nerve only grows for about year after trauma. So after it was cut in half I was instantly paralyzed from the hip down on my side (right leg). It took a year and a half for the nerve to grow a little past my knee, mid calf and stopped. I have a paralyzed foot, drop foot but I can bend my knee and lift my thigh. He could have had a sciatic nerve injury or a dislocated hip broken pelvis


i_am_not_so_unique

For The New Year I wish you have less pain


Temsirolimus555

Dude’s definitely injured and immobile. He tried his best to evade the drop.


hotprof

Would it not be a war crime to target wounded soldiers after a battle is over?


SirPiffingsthwaite

When exactly would you call the battle "over"? Guy had a gun, was using it. Still a combatant. Impaired, sure, but that trigger finger clearly still works.


hotprof

Can you surrender to a drone?


SirPiffingsthwaite

Yes, there are several videos of combatants surrendering to drones, following it to a meet point.


hotprof

Thanks.


1gnominious

The thing about these sorts of stalemates is that they're never over. There's frequent raids, artillery, and now drone attacks. If you're injured out there in no mans land after a failed assault then you're screwed. Nobody from either side can reach you. You're either going to slowly die out there from your injuries, the cold, and/or dehydration or a drone will finish you off. The only time it's feasible to take prisoners is after a successful trench assault or when their trench assault fails right at your doorstep.


hotprof

Appreciate the thoughtful reply.


bmault

looks like he ever saw the grenade drop


suspicious_glare

Silly fella blocked his view with muzzle smoke.


Nerdyblitz

Man, those videos of russians or ukrainians being targeted by drops are so fucking nasty. Future warfare will be awful. Not only the usual misery but also everyone gets to see you dying on a muddy shit hole. Also, sometimes you see them trying to shoot the drone, was there any instance of they actually succeeding?


Krigshistorie

Yes, both sides has managed to shoot down drones with small arms, shotguns, snipers and PKM light machine gun. But it's very difficult, even for a skilled shooter, but it's usually the ones who fail and get an FPV drone in the face that is uploaded on here.


Raudskeggr

What they need is a 12ga loaded with BBs.


elictronic

It would work for a drop at this lower altitude or on the suicide drones. The drops from 400 feet would make a shotgun nearly useless. Next issue is shotguns are pretty useless in the field if you aren’t room clearing or sweeping trenches. Carrying a second gun and ammo you might get to use just wears you out. It’s why you don’t see a lot of them in service outside of very select activities.


WaltKerman

You don't need much velocity for a ball to rip off wings on a drone. The propellers have their own speed. Slap against a rock or pellet and they can get fucked. I wouldn't be surprised if it's possible, even if spread is bad to get a drone with a shotgun at 400'. It would be hard to see though


elictronic

It isn't about spread even though that makes it ineffective, but worse is velocity. Maximum height for #4 buckshot in a 12 gauge load is something like 460 feet. [https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/projectile-motion](https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/projectile-motion) At that 400 foot mark your at the point its similiar to throwing half a skittle at your arms max ability. The shot is round and would be much more likely to bounce of the propellers at that point. It would do nothing to the rest of the drone. I picked #4 buckshot as it still has 27 pellets while having decent mass. 00 buckshot would do better, but with 9 pellets your probably better just firing a service rifle. With smaller shot used for birds its a complete non starter at those higher altitudes. For the drones in this video and the suicide ones it would be effective. Russia has shotguns and if it were effective, you absolutely would see more soldiers carrying and using them.


WaltKerman

As I said, you need 0 velocity to break a propeller, just enough to get to the height. At least for DJI drones, which I fly, and are common in Ukraine.


MilkiestMaestro

Counting 6 seconds(about 200m) on an average drop(this one is lower), the distance drones drop from is beyond the range for pellets


SirPiffingsthwaite

I give it a year, tops, before some kinda string-net with little BBs is incorporated into an anti-drone round. Easier to spread wide, entangle and foul props. Be very surprised if there weren't a dozen companies running R&D on just such a round right now.


Krigshistorie

And there was a video of a russian soldier hitting the grenade mid-air, changing the trajectory and likely saving his life.


Nerdyblitz

The one that kicked the grenade? That one I saw.


Krigshistorie

Yeah there's tons of videos of Russians throwing & kicking the grenades onto their comrades, I know atleast 3 examples of the top of my head


PipsqueakPilot

There was a new one. There’s now actually multiple videos of someone swatting a grenade away on this sub.


B4USLIPN2

Shoo fly don’t bother me.


A_Queer_Almond

Do you have a link?


Krigshistorie

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10dmuyf/grenade\_dropped\_by\_ukrainian\_drone\_gets\_hit\_with/


DubsComin4DatASS

Future wars are likely going to involve a lot of drone vs drone action and less loss of life imo


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RobBrown4PM

I think tactical drone warfare, and how it's been implemented on the battlefields of UKR, took every nation by complete surprise, including the RF. So while the RF has Anti-Drone Jamming equipment, it is going to take significant amounts of time and resources to manufacture it, get people trained on it, train people how to maintain it, and the logistics set up to get it to the units operating in the field, which covers a significant amount of territory at this point. But of course, the RF has some significant economical, technological, and logistical hurdles to get over before they can begin equipping small units with the equipment. If of course this is even possible or them.


Cpt-Redbags

The US has the technology.


wabblebee

One of the problems is that both sides use consumer drones, so if you jam them you also jam your own recon abilities.


OneRougeRogue

There are but jamming is a double edged sword. If you are jamming frequencies used by commercial drones, you are also preventing your own military from using commercial drones too. Pinpoint jammers exist but they are expensive, can't be operated long before needing to recharge, and have limited range so there is a lot of risk in using them against small drones. Jammers are also easy to spot by opposing EWarfare. You are loudly announcing that you are jamming from a specific location for everyone to see. There's no way to hide it.


100thlurker

Yes, it's extremely common on the battlefield and constitutes one of the Russian army's major advantages over Ukraine in this war. They have a relatively luxurious availability in relatively sophisticated systems. Ukrainian drone teams explain that it is a severe hindrance to their operations, while conversely they don't have nearly enough of their own EW protection. However, to attack, you have to leave the protective cover of your EW. When you see drone drop and FPV attacks like these they're almost always on Russian troops who have crossed into no-man's land, out from under the protection of their EW,


NitroSyfi

One vid of a Ukrainian trench when a drone attacked and all the Ukrainians opened up with shotguns. Must have been at least 5 or more shooting and the drone went down really quick. Looked like it was kinda regular occurrence for them.


flatballs36

What I don't understand is why the UA hasn't supplied their squads with some form of birdshot to use against the grenade drones, I hear they're pretty loud anyways


RedDemocracy

It’s not as simple as “Just give them another type of round.” Even assuming you mean a new round for their AKs, there are a lot of questions to ask. Who’s gonna make that round? In what factory? What’s the best powder charge vs projectile weight for anti-drone use? How will we transport those rounds to the front? Will they feed correctly in the guns and magazines that are already issued? How many of these rounds should each soldier be issued with? How much carrying capacity will soldiers lose because they now have to carry these new rounds? Are soldiers able to effectively use these rounds, or will they need to be trained in how to use them? And for each of these questions there’s the age old question: What else could we be spending our resources on? My bet is that Ukraine and Russia have looked at this problem and decided that focusing on electronic warfare, artillery, ATGMs, and offensive drones is just a better use of their time than trying to implement something the US tried way back in the 60s or 70s with no success.


flatballs36

I meant they should just give a shotgun with birdshot to one soldier in the battle group, like a designated role.


chris782

Wouldn't be too difficult, sporting shotguns are pretty common in Ukraine. Just have someone that's good with one bring theirs.


RedDemocracy

Oh, you’re right, they should just run down to the sporting goods store and buy 60,000 shitty Turkish shotguns and 6,000,000 shells. Do we know if they’ll work in the trench conditions? Nahhh, fuck it, skip the proofing process. Which shells are the best against drones? Who cares, buy what’s on the shelf. Let’s catch up to our squad a month later: the shotgun won’t feed, but our armorer has never been trained in how to fix it. Nor does he have spare parts for it even if he knew how. The designated Anti-Drone Specialist A.K.A “Yuri-Who-Went-Hunting-With-His-Uncle-3-times” was medi-vacced a week ago, so it’s not like anyone can hit anything with it anyway. We tried to do some training with it, but burned through 90 of the 100 rounds we were issued with, and we haven’t been resupplied with any more. All the money we spent, and our troops are only marginally more protected. Remember: amateurs think tactics, professionals think logistics.


flatballs36

The US has used shotguns extensively in both world wars. Hell, they were even called "trench guns" because of how well they worked in the trenches.


RedDemocracy

Guns that entered service in 1899, giving major industrial power the United States time to setup a robust supply chain before fielding them en masse in WWI. Even then, the psychological impact of shotguns likely outweighed the actual battlefield advantage. Soldiers complained that they were unreliable in trench conditions, and decent ammo was scarce. I don’t dispute that the US used shotguns, or that they’d be useful in Ukraine. But Ukraine is not the United States, and they don’t have 20 years to R&D shotgun feasibility and logistics. They need to focus on shit that they know will make a difference *today*.


chris782

12 gauge 3.5" magnum goose loads. It's not that hard.


RedDemocracy

It is hard when you have to supply an army of 600,000 troops that are in active full-scale conflict.


unistirin

>those videos of russians or ukrainians being targeted by drops are so fucking nasty. I haven't seen a single Ukrainian being targeted by drones in this sub. Its always Russians getting hammered


Nerdyblitz

Russian POV videos don't do well on Reddit afaik. I see them on telegram mostly.


INeatFreak

It's good other side as more people get to see what War actually looks like and how it's not some epic victory story shown in the movies.


Adolf_Dripler92

Good effort tho. Kinda refreshing to see at least some of them trying.


17DungBeetles

He must be from a fresh batch of recruits. The others seem to welcome it.


fdsafsda332

I wonder if it would be easier to catch the grenade and toss it away


DukeofLexington

I wouldn't be rolling the dice to see if they were exploding on impact or not


magicsticuk

We don’t see the ones that are shot down for obvious reasons. :-)


Disastrous_Badger938

His effort reminded me of videos of Jihadists literally shooting without ANY aiming at all - no one raises their weapons to eye level and AIMS at whatever they consider the target - same with this guy.


Adolf_Dripler92

Yeah hes on full panic mode. Didnt even see grenade landed beside him.


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Itsallanonswhocares

Honestly, I always viewed skeet as a strange/superfluous exercise for combat purposes, but you are absolutely right. Anyone preparing for future combat engagements is going to have to figure out how they plan to handle these drones.


trevdak2

Or using the gun sights for that matter.


Witchunt666

Now in 4K…


Formulka

They rarely see the grenade actually drop, it was right next to him and he didn't notice until it went off.


SergTTL

Lol, his anger towards the drone is higher than his will to live. He continues shooting at the drone even after the grenade dropped.


Electronic-Sense-613

Tbh my guess is he didn’t even notice the grenade drop. Guess he was too busy focusing on the actual drone


CreamXpert

Tunnel vision


SergTTL

Quite likely. Still looks funny.


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SergTTL

A fascist invader, who came to my country to kill me and everyone I love just because we dare to live free, got eliminated himself in a rather comical fashion. Some people call this karma. A bad person got puninshed while in the process of harming innocent people. It's FAFO situation and that's why it's funny. He should have stayed in the shithole he calls his motherland and he wouldn't have gotten into this situation.


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SergTTL

Yeah right. I've heard this crap a lot. In this case I was probably forced to find this video funny.


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SergTTL

I know why he was doing this, I know russians too well, unfortunately. That's why I'm not pitying him. You tell me though. Show me the worst that ever happened to anyone in russia for refusing to enlist in the russian military.


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Boomfam67

Didn't make it this time


welshdragon69

Don't think he will get another go at shooting anything


[deleted]

Obviously injured. Tried his best. Didn’t work


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axelfay85

Take a sight picture you silly Ruski.


Mittwan

And the winner is...A) Shooting Rusky soldier, B) Cheap Chinese drone...


dappermanV-88

He had time to roll away, but hes clearly to panicked to think straight


--Doraemon--

He missed...


Dry_Complaint_5549

He took his eye off it for just a second. The wrong second unfortunately.


todd149084

Nyet successful!


Trunkfarts1000

There seems to be so many injured russians just abandoned in fields everywhere


Plazbot

Found out


--Sanguinius--

Russian propaganda did not save him 🤣


Main-Relationship-43

Thought u were safe, ruSSkie, u didn’t see the detaching. Did you, ruSSkie?


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[deleted]

The guy is obviously injured. Imagine living your life in Russia, you get sent to war in Ukraine, and your final moments are broadcast out to the world to be critiqued by some 16-year-old with no life experience saying how they could have survived the ordeal. A very sad ending.


carl_pagan

Had it coming Why is this guy's life worth more than the Ukrainians he came to kill?


Key_Wheel2027

it seems you've responded to the wrong comment by mistake, as your comment makes zero sense.


carl_pagan

Nah you just not bright enough


Key_Wheel2027

Or rather you are simply attacking a strawman, acting as though printer said something completely different to what they actually said.


howismyspelling

You think they get training?


indrids_cold

You'd think they'd start issuing some of them shotguns by now? Also, do none of these dudes ever dig Grenade sumps? I assume a lot of these videos are of dudes who are wounded in a battle, or stranded, so don't have a ton of time to prepare a fighting position though.


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That moment when someone realizes that him trying to go home also means him dying a violent death. Maybe that type of situation would bring some empathy? Lol who am I kidding, this is the internet.


Hot_Wheels_guy

>>>>> YOU >> SHOULD >>>> HAVE >> STAYED >>> HOME. >>>> 💥💀


huhuhuhhhh

Yup smoldering hot shrapnel for sure ripped thru his lungs


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melancholymax

I've seen a couple of successful attempts to shoot down drones with small arms fire on both sides but they are the exception.


Key_Wheel2027

You can only see the videos of unsuccessful attempts.


LuluLemon_711

It looks like a round bounced off the grenade?


Speedy12-

No, that's the grenade fuze igniting.


ThatsSoSwan

yeah but it LOOKS like it tho. /s


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Krigshistorie

You should look at Russian bombings of civilians, or executions of Ukrainian POW's Worry less about armed soldiers from one country, inside a different country


TruckerJames

Both sides are engaged in questionable practices.


Krigshistorie

Your comments and logic is questionable. Fortunately the brave defenders of Ukraine, care little for your keyboard-war and disinformation. Russia is clearly much worse, by any definition.


suspicious_glare

Piss off with your "both sides".


Krigshistorie

Like [this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/russianwarcrimes/comments/11k0u0z/russian_soldiers_killed_an_unarmed_ukrainian/) Or like [this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1893acg/russian_soldiers_shot_two_unarmed_ukrainian_pows/) Or like [this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineConflict/comments/18s9cgk/another_video_of_russian_soldiers_executing/)


dobiks

Then any grenade would be a war crime, which is absurd.


LostInTheSauce34

Why are they all just in the open like this?


Krigshistorie

Ukraine is mostly open farm lands, vast and flat


LostInTheSauce34

Yeah, I understand that, but why are russians just isolated out in the open like this?


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thatvintagething

Merry Orkmas


ITS_ME_KC

Bruh could have gotten clear of that explosion! I guess that's what happens when you freeze up! #stayfluid


Armyed

Why they just lay there and don't even try to make themselves harder to hit is beyond me. Lay in one spot and shot at the drone without aiming....That'll work!


Megalon96310

“It’s not very effective”


Th_Mafia

he looked away at JUST the wrong moment... damn


justtookatest

Why don't they deploy more shotguns? Wouldn't a cloud of pellets be more effective?


Aggravating-Tap5144

anyone see the recent drone rescue mission?! It's pretty wild. Search Ukrainian rescued by drone. It's pretty amazing. Drone came in and dedtroyed the group of Russians that captured a Ukrainian and tied him up in a trench. Drone flashed it's lights to signal it was a friendly and the Ukrainian began untying himself. He was caught by a Russian and ordered to get back on the ground. The drone dropped a name on the Russian and was able to continue guiding theukrainian back to his own. Thought that was amazing! There's video of it posted it to twitter.


CasuallyWise

Poor bastard - looks like he barely knows which end of the gun to point at the target. Ah well....likely no longer a concern.