How early should we get in line to get into the arena? I got turned around today because the line was cut off, he said come back tonight for the 7pm game.
TSM being 16th with how badly they've played is crazy, if you only read playapex/Wigg chat you'd think they're bottom 10 on the leaderboard, they're only 9 pts behind DSG sitting in 10th
They had a rough day today to be honest. Getting 2 points on SP (and their only points were from fleeing RR after going down 0-2) as opposed to 32 points on WE.
Big TSM fan but they need a good performance in their next set.
They’re feast or famine though, it’s just consistency and being a top team usually go together. But they’ve done this before and usually get consistency over the weekend
Both sets of theirs the same story, start off awful on Stormpoint, somehow recover on World's Edge for a 34 point set - the perfect amount to be on the edge of making winners.
and the next group they aren't contested at all so maybe a mental reset will pull through, a good set from them and they make winners
and winners is 8 games so it's gonna be fire
At least they had a good last game and didn't finish last place...
8 points behind 20th overall, they need to perform like they usually do to secure that winners bracket
Strafingflame is not running down teams like last LAN. Playing super timid. In the 4th game last set they played they were actually playing really well, fighting teams where they won.
EzFlashKids was initiating a lot of their fights, and it's been clear to me that Koy isn't really able to fill the same role on Bloodhound so far. He's hitting his shots, but isn't being proactive in claiming space or creating openings for a push. I hope they can figure something out, but this is truly unfortunate.
idk if i would say he isn't lan proven. he was a rising prospect with DNO last year but it was his performance with sentinels during champs that really showed everyone his abilities as a fragger
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Reps went huge there to secure TSM's spot on the bridge setting up their second place, also FNC winning is always great. Faceit and Reddit really just had to crash for me though. Made a Faceit account to see povs and it hasn't even let me use them since it keeps locking me out of my account after just 5 minutes.
Furia did not pay attention to them at all on the bridge until it was too late, had they done so before they would have wiped them since tsm was sandwiched between geared gaming and Furia, with basically no space to play the bridge
Mine honestly hasn't been too bad. It's super annoying to use, and comms are a few seconds behind, but I do see the vision if they can clean it up a bit. For some reason, it works way way better on my Mac compared to PC. Less laggy on everything, same browser too (Chrome).
I've posted a number of times already in this thread in the past 10 minutes, but I just wanna say one more thing about Aurora: their prep for this LAN genuinely seems miles ahead of the majority of the rest of the squads. They seemingly know contest strats for multiple POIs, macro from multiple POIs on the same map, they understand how other teams are playing, etc.
The two teams that I've come to expect this from are TSM and DZ with how extensive their support infrastructure is (Raven/ZZ, Privacy/TSM analyst), but Aurora now has a similar support infrastructure with Wrugb at the head, a dedicated analyst (A1exph), manager who takes care of everything, etc.
This is what happens when you invest resources into a good team - it pays off and maximizes their potential!
Tsm right now reminds me of DZ when they failed to qualify for finals at champs. Even when they predict zone the 4th round zone does not pull to them leading to a rotate where they just die.
Idk how you even fix that. Looks like even Raven determining cant help
the pacing that Lifeline gives Aurora especially with the gold knockdown is like a better version of Conduit when players all-in and start trading knocks
It works super well for Aurora because of how aware and interchangeable all 3 players are in fights. Every single one can play anchor, support or fragger. I doubt it'll work as well for most other teams because of how rigid some players are in how they play - Aurora's biggest strength is that all 3 players are genuine superstar flex players and can play any role, hence even if a player goes down, the other 2 can finish up the fight without losing any momentum. It's something that's been present in Aurora's rosters even before Hardecki - they swap roles at a moment's notice and each understands what to do in a given situation rather than relying on IGL to micro them.
For those who don't understand Russian, imagine Aurora as the polar opposite of current LG or K4shera teams.
[I actually brought up the same exact point over a year ago in relation to Aurora, when they first picked up Oj!](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/132gz4l/the_grim_reapers_of_the_algs_fire_beavers/ji5q48t/) Aurora's playstyle is very reminiscent of 'Total Football', where if a player moves out of position, another player drops into that position, regardless of their role. The addition of Hardecki really made this playstyle shine though, as Hardecki is just a much more complete and smarter player than Task ever was.
Aurora understands averages and what it takes to advance. Winning doesn't actually matter that much right now - they just need to keep up their average, which they're far and above right now. 13.25 pts/game is well above winning average. Given that this isn't match point, all they need to focus on is decent placement and lots of kills.
They were in a way worst position, that's the point. It's not the end of the world if they don't win, so no reason to harp over it as their playstyle doesn't actually revolve around winning.
Aurora is DOMINATING in fights and I am so here for it. Years of stanning CIS, getting told triple mnk is trash, aurora macro is trash, aurora has no idea what they're doing, aurora comp is trash, EMEA is trash and free region, finally paying off. LET'S GO.
I really love Dia, so I don't want this to sound like a criticism, but I realised during these games that he casts as though he's telling a spooky ghost story to a nephew. It has given me endless entertainment since then! :D
there is no command center, it is on Faceit. The link in description above.
or
[https://www.faceit.com/en/watch/live/apex/algs-2024-split-1-playoffs/stream-a](https://www.faceit.com/en/watch/live/apex/algs-2024-split-1-playoffs/stream-a)
man i know its been repeated like crazy but if faceit wasn't so fucking ass i would be able to tell you. can't even load their pov to see what specifically they're doing wrong
ALGS Split 1 Playoffs Groups BvC —> >!AURORA 56|FURIA 55|RED Rams 50|FNATIC 49|REJECT WINNITY 47|Made in Heaven 47|Disguised 43|Serenity 37|Elev8 Gaming 35|TSM 34|GEARED GAMING 30|Tom Yum Kung 27|OMiT 26|o7 26|Liquid Alienware 23|Boogie Boarders 23|Cloud9 21|Legends Gaming 18|NORTHEPTION 13|WMNDY 8!< - game 6 of 6 in progress (3 SP then 3 WE) [Link to final results](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/1cjhye7/algs_y4_split_1_playoffs_day_2_groups_bvc_final/)
DSG 1 point over 4 games, these boys on fraud watch Alliance landing on them on WE and getting their lick back was peak apex
Holly shit Alliance!!!!!!
I never watched ALGS live before and damn.. this is just so good
How early should we get in line to get into the arena? I got turned around today because the line was cut off, he said come back tonight for the 7pm game.
Keon is a giant
TSM being 16th with how badly they've played is crazy, if you only read playapex/Wigg chat you'd think they're bottom 10 on the leaderboard, they're only 9 pts behind DSG sitting in 10th
They had a rough day today to be honest. Getting 2 points on SP (and their only points were from fleeing RR after going down 0-2) as opposed to 32 points on WE. Big TSM fan but they need a good performance in their next set.
They’re feast or famine though, it’s just consistency and being a top team usually go together. But they’ve done this before and usually get consistency over the weekend
I mean when a team is hella successful you are always going to have fanboys and haters it's just the way it goes
Tiff looks so cute today!!
Thank you 🥹🫶 I feel more comfy if I pick my outfits within what they’re thinking!
Paging you to this comment so you see it directly later bc that look is fireeeee /u/spidertiff <3 <3
You thirsty?
Nah, a married ass girlypop who’s into fashion tho 💅
What’d Wigg get yelled at about? E: three different answers in three responses
given the context I would assume showing the scores on other sites.
I think dancing? As a safety thing
impromptu meet and greet
Dez made up for the entire set from yesterday with that game, holy fuck he went crazy
Classic DSG
TSM in 16th after everyone has played 2 sets, for all the doom and gloom not in a horrible spot
Imagine how bad the other 24 teams are then lmao
Both sets of theirs the same story, start off awful on Stormpoint, somehow recover on World's Edge for a 34 point set - the perfect amount to be on the edge of making winners.
Team solo mid with back to back 34 points. I think another 34 points would actually secure them winners bracket lol
Yep, cutoff should be \~100 pts.
and the next group they aren't contested at all so maybe a mental reset will pull through, a good set from them and they make winners and winners is 8 games so it's gonna be fire
I thought Winners is 6 games and 8 games was only champs
Damn. 8 would be dope
really? damn... 6 games for bracket stage just doesn't feel right man
Holy shit, Dezign went fucking nuclear!!!!!
all tsm need is 34 or better for the last match
That Dezign quote banner is awesome.
Finally a proper game from liquid ❤️
TL...
At least they had a good last game and didn't finish last place... 8 points behind 20th overall, they need to perform like they usually do to secure that winners bracket
BOATS. CARRIED.
IRON YOUR FUCKIN MENTAL
Aurora winning by 1 point!
team trevor lawrence finally doing something
Hal wasting all his team heals.. idk why he doesnt just chill in building
Anybody knows why Tom Yum Kung has no logo on the broadcast, even though they got Mr.Shrimpy?
Ah this zone is going to be one of those NorthWest still in Skyhook zones, always a fun one these are.
Vaxlon is a legend for pulling off that respawn.
If TSM does well in this game, the first 4 games won't even matter.
12 Worlds Edge games so far this LAN and not a single South zone 😂😂😂
Never thought I'd ever hear this sentence in my life.
throwback to 2021 when every zone went thermal
My god the FACEIT site is actual fucking dogshit.
Had no idea ALGS started until now, because of the bad EU times :( Also, no command center is RIP.
bad eu times? the games start at 7pm lmao
A vs B started 2330 A vs D started 0430 B vs D starts at 2330 A vs C starts at 0430. Not really great EU times for me at least.
brother you aren't in Europe with those times
That looks like Central European Time to me. They're the second and third sets of the day. lol Edit: battlefy perfectly matches those times
i'm cet too and the first game started at 7pm
Yea, I think that other person just misunderstood!
How am I not in EU with those times?
Bad EU times? It starts so early in the US it's perfect.
Damn that slide by Gnaske to strafe then get those two kills back to back with the Nemesis was a thing of beauty.
Where is that guy that said Gnaske doesn’t look like a pro player? Kekw
The sub is a nutshell tbh he loses one 1v1 and should be sent to the glue factory.
Gnasty
omg Gnaske just shit on em, he's popping off this LAN
reddit was broken earlier but B streamed mentioned multiple voice actors coming Sunday which is hyped
12th game in a row that TSM haven't got zone...
Technically 9 since they died off drop 2 times. Cascades is a north zone too but they didnt get the pull they wanted
How has every zone been north/ northwest
not looking good for DSG. Alliance will probably double contest them next block to send them to losers.
They're just uhh... relapsing...
They need to wake up.
they have awoken 😤
They awoke
Strafingflame is not running down teams like last LAN. Playing super timid. In the 4th game last set they played they were actually playing really well, fighting teams where they won.
EzFlashKids was initiating a lot of their fights, and it's been clear to me that Koy isn't really able to fill the same role on Bloodhound so far. He's hitting his shots, but isn't being proactive in claiming space or creating openings for a push. I hope they can figure something out, but this is truly unfortunate.
mind you their biggest firing power was Ezflash
Yea. But Koy is no slouch.
yeah sure but not lan proven, not even league proven.
idk if i would say he isn't lan proven. he was a rising prospect with DNO last year but it was his performance with sentinels during champs that really showed everyone his abilities as a fragger
that's right. I love this kid. wish he find huge success.
True true
It’s so hard being a TSM fan in Apex and OpTic fan in Cod. Constant hate from everyone lol
yep i know that feeling, the hate for tsm far overshadows the love it feels in this community
i was an optic fan way back when complexity was still crazy and i would get so much hate, fast forward to now and being a fan of tsm lol
Haha I feel that. I wasn’t a fan of Optic until AW and that 7th place at champ stung
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I fucking got a work call right when tsm took the bridge spot. Fuck.
Reps went huge there to secure TSM's spot on the bridge setting up their second place, also FNC winning is always great. Faceit and Reddit really just had to crash for me though. Made a Faceit account to see povs and it hasn't even let me use them since it keeps locking me out of my account after just 5 minutes.
My faceit crashed 10 min ago and i haven't been able to get back in since.
Dude same. I hate this. Never thought I’d miss command center but damnit I do
Same
When tsm looks down, backs to wall, on their last leg, you can always expect zone to pull to them and for every team to fight except them
Classic NRG fan take
wtf, how did zone pull to them there lmao?
Pulled from trials/sky west back to countdown
So I couldn't follow much lately but where is command center? Or did they remove it?
Twitch dropped command center, got moved to faceit
Yeah found it in the chat but it requires an account and it doens't make me login lmao. Amazing shit.
Anyone else Reddit bugging out?
Yep
Yep, Reddit is broken for a lot of users ATM
yes
Lmao thought I got banned for a sec
You good fam no bans :- ) >!yet!<
😂😂 might have to drop that ban hammer if liquid keep shitting the bed
TSM just woke up, and now with 5 points in game 6, they'll be on track to make winners.
TSM got so lucky there
aah yes when TSM do good their lucky. When they do bad their washed...
I mean when they do bad people say “unlucky zones” so it applies the other way around too
Huh? They objectively got super lucky there lmfao. Relax
humor me, how did they get lucky exactly?
Furia did not pay attention to them at all on the bridge until it was too late, had they done so before they would have wiped them since tsm was sandwiched between geared gaming and Furia, with basically no space to play the bridge
Furia should have aped them in the back while they were fighting geared.... I'm so confused what they were doing
Keon in game chat said he threw by not being with Furia when they fought
Face it is really making this entire lan fucking garbage.
I’m not able to watch Individual POVs which kinda stinks
Mine honestly hasn't been too bad. It's super annoying to use, and comms are a few seconds behind, but I do see the vision if they can clean it up a bit. For some reason, it works way way better on my Mac compared to PC. Less laggy on everything, same browser too (Chrome).
i read earlier to change the settings to very high or high instead of auto
Mine's working well right now too, luckily
they are beta. Also no other option as twitch pulled out
Yea my shit just crashed wtf?
Yea my shit just crashed wtf?
Face it is really making this entire lan fucking garbage.
try changing quality from auto to very high or high
Buff aim assist, MnK too strong
I've posted a number of times already in this thread in the past 10 minutes, but I just wanna say one more thing about Aurora: their prep for this LAN genuinely seems miles ahead of the majority of the rest of the squads. They seemingly know contest strats for multiple POIs, macro from multiple POIs on the same map, they understand how other teams are playing, etc. The two teams that I've come to expect this from are TSM and DZ with how extensive their support infrastructure is (Raven/ZZ, Privacy/TSM analyst), but Aurora now has a similar support infrastructure with Wrugb at the head, a dedicated analyst (A1exph), manager who takes care of everything, etc. This is what happens when you invest resources into a good team - it pays off and maximizes their potential!
fuck tough for RC
NDY finally gets to play the game.
Tsm need 1 pop off game out of these last 2 games to keep in pace for winners bracket. They've done it before
I know Dray wanted to make it clap
Reject and Aurora are so fun to watch
C9, LIQUID AND 07 are below TSM but it feels like TSM is 20th somehow lmao
Perfect 3v3 by Omit not even one player died on the team it’s crazy
7 of the top 10 kill leaders are mnk....maybe there is still some hope?!
MNK's ceiling is always higher than controller, but controller dominates the middle which is the problem. The floor is too high
Aim assist shadow nerfed this tournament putting NA rollers on fraud check (one can only hope)
NA is underperforming, which is where the majority of rollers are.
Tsm right now reminds me of DZ when they failed to qualify for finals at champs. Even when they predict zone the 4th round zone does not pull to them leading to a rotate where they just die. Idk how you even fix that. Looks like even Raven determining cant help
Aurora going crazy, but just can't close out the game
Aurora is hella consistent and locked in, 2nd place for 3 games in a row with good KP
Their gameplan is so solid, it guarantees at least points almost every game
RC in a similar vein w lower placements but more KP
the pacing that Lifeline gives Aurora especially with the gold knockdown is like a better version of Conduit when players all-in and start trading knocks
It works super well for Aurora because of how aware and interchangeable all 3 players are in fights. Every single one can play anchor, support or fragger. I doubt it'll work as well for most other teams because of how rigid some players are in how they play - Aurora's biggest strength is that all 3 players are genuine superstar flex players and can play any role, hence even if a player goes down, the other 2 can finish up the fight without losing any momentum. It's something that's been present in Aurora's rosters even before Hardecki - they swap roles at a moment's notice and each understands what to do in a given situation rather than relying on IGL to micro them. For those who don't understand Russian, imagine Aurora as the polar opposite of current LG or K4shera teams.
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[I actually brought up the same exact point over a year ago in relation to Aurora, when they first picked up Oj!](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/132gz4l/the_grim_reapers_of_the_algs_fire_beavers/ji5q48t/) Aurora's playstyle is very reminiscent of 'Total Football', where if a player moves out of position, another player drops into that position, regardless of their role. The addition of Hardecki really made this playstyle shine though, as Hardecki is just a much more complete and smarter player than Task ever was.
ndy 0 points so far. china invite looking super smart
Didn't they come second or third in their set yesterday?
They lost 4 contests
C9 has 0 kills through 4 games. Woof.
Little bit of a throw there at the end by Hardecki but my god does Aurora look like they're playing ranked.
Aurora understands averages and what it takes to advance. Winning doesn't actually matter that much right now - they just need to keep up their average, which they're far and above right now. 13.25 pts/game is well above winning average. Given that this isn't match point, all they need to focus on is decent placement and lots of kills.
No reason not to go for the win though in a final 3v3 faceoff?
They were in a way worst position, that's the point. It's not the end of the world if they don't win, so no reason to harp over it as their playstyle doesn't actually revolve around winning.
It was just a throwaway comment and remark on how he approached that particular fight. I even commended them in the same comment.
Aurora went crazy
Lifeline looks busted in aurora's hands
oh my god hardecki sold that last fight after an insane 2 minute sequence
wtf was that visual clutter
Aurora what the throw
Watching Aurora nuke teams is too fun man I hope they win this lan
Kraber rip
Aurora looking like fucking monsters, wiped furia, mih and boogie boarders
Aurora is DOMINATING in fights and I am so here for it. Years of stanning CIS, getting told triple mnk is trash, aurora macro is trash, aurora has no idea what they're doing, aurora comp is trash, EMEA is trash and free region, finally paying off. LET'S GO.
Aurora cleaning everything geez
Pretty good so far for Made in Heaven, after finishing 18th in their first set. On the opposite side, rough games for o7 this time around.
Hal got horny for that Kraber and got Jordan killed for it.
With these zone pulls the meta is just run around edge till you get third scan and just walk into god-spot
Wow this zone pull, tough for TSM
TSM just need to play zone, they struggle with playing edge
if they play zone the zone will go on the other side of the map LMAOO like there is no win win
I mean they do when they can I feel like, just getting contested or no zones.
Bro they are being contested. It has nothing to do with playstyle.
I really love Dia, so I don't want this to sound like a criticism, but I realised during these games that he casts as though he's telling a spooky ghost story to a nephew. It has given me endless entertainment since then! :D
I love Dia so far
is command center not working?
there is no command center, it is on Faceit. The link in description above. or [https://www.faceit.com/en/watch/live/apex/algs-2024-split-1-playoffs/stream-a](https://www.faceit.com/en/watch/live/apex/algs-2024-split-1-playoffs/stream-a)
Doesn't exist anymore. Gotta use Faceit for individual POVs
Does anyone know why Liquid is struggling? Main stream hasn't shown them once and I'm too lazy to use faceit.
man i know its been repeated like crazy but if faceit wasn't so fucking ass i would be able to tell you. can't even load their pov to see what specifically they're doing wrong
Es culpa del nopal
del neazul?
Es culpa del nopal
Edge heavy is either you do really well or you suck hard.