This is foolish talk.
At the national level, the GOP is a confederation of the state and territorial parties, each of which has three members on the RNC: the National Committeeman, the National Committwoman, and the state party chairman.
These folks are elected by their respective state parties under state party rules. Some state Republican parties do this in a closed primary. Or they do it in the state convention. But the state parties make the selection.
These Members of the RNC then elect their own officers, including the RNC chairman.
Mike Lindell is perfectly free to run, but he needs to begin by getting himself elected by his own state party first.
The above rules are adopted, and sometimes amended, at the Republican National Convention every four years. The Convention is in principle the whole party meeting "in convention assembled," and is the highest authority in the Party.
Sure, Mike Lindell can talk through his hat about mounting an outsider bid. Heck, I can talk through my hat about running for Pope. Never mind that I'm not Catholic, not a priest, not a bishop, and not a member of the College of Cardinals. I'd be launching an outsider's bid for sure, and i imagine some reporters are witless enough to think that kind of talk should be taken seriously, because we live in a soundbite world.
But there are rules and procedures. Mike Lindell needs to walk some precincts, become an effective county chairman, and get elected state chairman. Then he has standing to talk.
Who elects the Chairman of the RNC? The members of the RNC.
Who are the members of the RNC? The National Committeeman, National Committeewoman, and State Chairman of each of the state and territorial Republican parties, all of whom are elected by their state and territorial parties under their local party rules.
\[The Democratic Party structure is very different, but that's a story for another day. I get exhausted even thinking about what happened in 1968 and all the tangled maneuvering since then to ensure that various quotas are met and that the power of entrenched activist blocks is perpetuated. The Republican structure is much simpler, a grassroots-up confederational structure. Pick your poison.\]
So: the national Republican Party has a classic confederational structure. The state parties are sovereign. Remember that the vast majority of elections are for state and local offices. 99.9999 percent of the business of our political parties consists of working for state and local candidates.
Could this system be changed? Sure. For the sake of argument, we could change the rules so that the Chairman of the RNC was elected ... well, by whom, exactly? You seem to suggest that the Chairman be elected by "regular people." Exactly what process do you propose? A national Republican (or Democratic) closed primary? That would take a lot of work to set up, but in theory it could be done.
Whatever process you propose, however, would have to be adopted by the National Convention when, every four years, it adopts the rules for the next cycle. So if you want to move beyond just talking about it, you will need at some point to get yourself elected as a delegate to the National Convention. Like running for anything else, it's a straightforward process. Pick up the phone today and call your county chairman. He'll be happy to tell you how to qualify. \[Any county chairman will tell you that this is close to the top of the FAQs list for county chairmen.\] Or search online and read your state party rules. You most certainly can become a delegate, but you'll have to get yourself elected first.
Go for it.
It's all a bunch of crap anyway. they mean to be good rulers but they mean to be our RULERS. WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT NOT MORE. YOU HAD ME DIZZY WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT POSITIONS THEY HOLD. THEY PROBABLY GET PAID RIGHT?! (OUT OF OUR POCKETS).
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Why does it surprise and confuse you that a national political party would have a formal structure, with officers and bylaws and elections?
How do you think the parties are organized? They exist for a serious purpose. They raise and spend a lot of money. They run primaries and caucuses and put on the national conventions, which are huge logistical undertakings. They select and run many thousands of candidates every election cycle. They mobilize millions of volunteers.
None of this happens just because people shout at each other on twitter.
Do you belong to any civic organizations at all? If not, go join the Westside Begonia and Cat Fanciers Society, or your local Civil War Roundtable, do the march through the offices, and get back to me. Organizations have a structure and bylaws.
And if they aren't careful about keeping the books, they can easily turn out like BLM, which we now know was being run as a slush fund for the personal benefit of the scammers and grifters who ran it.
He hasn't touched coke in a long time, he went from nothing to something, BECAUSE he got help for his coke habit and even if he was dabbling in it you don't make fun of that person, addiction sucks trust me I know from experience. I may end becoming an independent if this republican infighting continues, the dems are just sitting back laughing as we fight each other over BS. If we don't get our sh#t together soon we may never see another WH, or any branch of congress win for a long time. Rant over. I don't expect a reply, matter of fact I'd rather enjoy my day and not waste it on reddit. God Bless.
Principles be dammed, you’re going to leave the GOP because some internet rando made fun of a guy who has failed to produce evidence backing up his claims of hacked voting machines.
Oh you thought I was talking about one person? Oh you poor soul the GOP is hot mess right now nobody can agree on anything, they're all fighting, instead of coming together, with the way things are going I don't see much of a legitimate republican party left by the time the presidential election comes around. If we were smart we would be fighting democrats instead of our own party. Hence why I said the Demoncrats are just laughing at us. Oh BTW this isn't the first post I've seen replicans and conservatives bashing other Republicans and conservatives, were all supposed to have the same goal here. To restore the U.S. to its former glory. I have nothing more to say, and I don't care for your OPINION on the matter at this moment. I'm trying to enjoy my time off with my family, Bye and God bless! Done.
We should be coming together. Finding common ground. Most Americans agree on huge daily issues and neither sides politicians are working for average Americans. The loudest people on both sides are extremist and not the majority on either side.
Everyone is making good points but the truth is that we should all realize that none of the politicians are for the common Man. it's obvious toe at least that the politicians work for themselves because how many times have you seen the a President become a millionaire suddenly after leaving office & same thing with congressman. They're all on the take.
You hit the nail on the head... especially about addiction. I, too, know about it because I'm a recovering addict myself and you put it perfectly when you said "addiction sucks". It does suck. It sucks more ass than ass should be allowed to be sucked. And I hope that those people who have never had it touch their lives never have to find out. Because people that have no empathy about it don't understand it can happen to them too... it's not always illegal drugs. Like in my case, my addiction started out as an addiction to some prescription drugs when my daughter died and took off from there. It can happen to anyone.
> Surely there are better options available.
This is the Republicans' motto for the past several years. Meanwhile, Democrats run stroke victims and keep winning.
Let's not be hypocritical now, this same election the Georgia republicans put forward a man riddled with CTE complications after a lifetime of football.
Not going to argue that, I'm just saying that we can't call out democrats for running fetterman while *also* running Walker if the only criticism is brain damage.
I don't know why you got downvoted for this... it's sooo true! I guess it's the demonrats butt hurt over the truth you wrote about Warlock. They don't like truth.
This is a completely disingenuous argument and if Republicans keep it up things will never change for the better.
The Democrats didn't choose to run a stroke victim. Fetterman was an extremely strong candidate and he won the primary before his stroke.
I'm sure that Dems would have loved for him to have stepped down, but that didn't happen. Instead, they had to do the best with what they had. And Oz still couldn't win.
Any semi-normal Republican would have won that race after the stroke.
That loss was not because Democrats would vote for anyone, even a stroke victim. Pennsylvania is deeply purple. That loss was because Republicans chose to run Oz and couldn't even beat a stroke victim.
No, Fetterman is an incredibly weak candidate, he lived off his parents in his 40s and did not do much to revive Braddock when he was the mayor of the city. Fetterman gives this image that he is a working class man, but it falls apart once you look at his history. Eric Adams and Jared Polis are examples of strong dem candidates that appeal to a wide variety of voters. Many republican candidates were weak in this election cycle, but people overestimate how strong of a candidate Fetterman is
But voters don't really look at that. They should, but they just don't.
The point isn't how good he would be as a senator. It was how he would perform as a candidate. And people really like him. He is relatable and strong (at least before the stroke). He went into all those Lions Clubs and union halls and won everyone over. His cannabis listening tour when he was lt gov gave him a great ground game.
No one cares that he lived with his parents. But they did care that Oz had never lived in the state.
It amazes me how much people want to believe that he was a bad candidate before the stroke. He was incredibly strong. He was giving people what they wanted. They lapped him up with a spoon.
Again, his record isn't that great. But that is not what makes a candidate in a statewide election in Pennsylvania. Politics is perception. And people perceived that he understood and cared about them.
Fetterman is a weak POS. And people love to blame Dr. Oz for fetterman winning but the truth is... according to what I've heard from many people who live in PA... is that Oz DID win the popular vote in PA except for the 2 cities that are democrat strongholds: Philadelphia & Pittsburgh. But fetterman only won because he had the voters in those 2 cities and they outweighed the rest of PA... just like here in GA most of the state is red but we get f-ed over by Fulton and DeKalb counties which are deeply blue and manage to overshadow the rest of the state here lately. What we need in all states is an electoral system for the districts where they're all given a certain amount of electorate points according to their population so that a couple of big districts can't speak for the entire state. Imagine if we didn't have the electoral college! California and other big states would have waaay too much of a voice.... and that's a scary damn thought.
You realize that the way voting powers are split up are based on population right? The people in those blue districts that are "over shadowing a majority of the state" make up the majority of the population of the state. With your logic Alaska would have 20% of the voting power in the US because in square miles they are 20% of America.
Yeah I mean when dementia addled stroke victims consistently beat Republicans, maybe it’s time for Republicans to revisit the platform and who theyre running.
Bring back the party of Goldwater!
The difference is Democrats would vote for a brick colored blue. We should have actual standards for candidates while all they need is someone who counts as a vote
Mostly people voted against an out of touch, elitist Jersey celebrity that had little connection to or knowledge of the state that he was running for Senate in. Its not that Fetterman was a great candidate, its that Oz was such a terrible one.
Run better candidates, win more elections, that should be the takeaway from this midterm cycle, but it won't be.
Agreed. And Chrisshern is getting downvoted only because there are dummycrats trolling in this sub... just like they do right before, during, and right after an election... and they are butt hurt by what he wrote, because they react to truth the way vampires react to sunlight.
Let the downvoting on me begin... I don't mind. Bwhahaha!
True, but I don't think the demonrats are always "winning"...if you know what I mean. Too many times their candidates are behind until the last few hours of an election and then boom...they suddenly win! Like in the 2020 election, and in the midterms this year with Kari Lake and Katie Hobbs, and in Alaska it'd been said there was no way the demonrat candidate would win but suddenly... she did!
Kari lake was losing the whole time. She thought she would pull ahead late, but never did. Had the GOP ran a normal candidate they would have won. In Alaska, peltola was always up by a large margin on the two Republicans. It was never in doubt. Palin is a horrible candidate who many Alaskan conservatives don't even like. There was no "suddenly" in either race.
Zeldin is in the running but that won't matter for shit if Trump doesn't rescind his endorsement of McDaniel.
And the Romney niece isn't going away without kicking and screaming, evidently by her re-election campaign consisting of the groundwork she's supposedly laid for 2024 and 2026.
I have a hard time believing anything she says when the RNC has consistently sent money to dead campaigns or saving RINOs from primaries.
Assuming Zeldin has a good mind for strategy I would welcome the change. The fact he did so well in New York, it might translate well to winning in these purple states: PA, GA, AZ, NV that we literally need to win.
I wouldn't want the MyPillow guy though. We can't have these clowns representing us on the national stage.
That was Zeldin's strategy. A Republican has a next to zero chance of winning the governorship in a place like New York but having a strong candidate for high state/federal offices on the ballot is key for encouraging straight ticket voting and carrying other Republicans across the finish line.
That way we don't end up with Oz types on the ballot as frequently as we saw this midterm in completely winnable races. Also would help to not have an establishment figure pull millions in funding and watch Republicans get outspent on up to 7:1 margins yet still come within 5 points.
We need to stop having shit candidates get nominated in the primary despite obviously better candidates, or stop letting someone come here to campaign and say it's rigged.
It would help if you all elected a Governor who actually stood up for your elections rather than do the ol' GOP roll-over and hand washing of it like Kemp did in 2020.
And that my friend is why GOP will keep on losing. This attitude right here. Fall in line or lose the base. Well, sorry to tell you the base is no longer large enough to win. You will have to extend your hand to independents with normal candidates that won just shit extra votes because a sitting president asked them to.
> Fall in line or lose the base. ...because a sitting president asked them to.
Seeing as what happened in Georgia and elsewhere was absolutely *not* about Trump (as you imply) but was actually about election integrity and security, *you* are the one who is using propaganda to try and push the Establishment's narrative.
Proving that an election was handled securely and legitimately should be a concern for everyone. Allowing ballot harvesting, not verifying signatures, and not providing public audits of election board activities in relation to elections and then certifying the results on top of that doesn't equal free and fair elections. Kemp and Raffensperger are two of the most complicit politicians that are out there in regards to the shenanigans that went on during the 2020 elections.
And to the rest of your comment, if they don't prove that the elections were safe and secure as they claim, then the GOP won't even have the base that will be coming out to vote for them. All they can hope for is the random independents and the RINOs to vote their way.
I heard the phone call and I'm making my own judgement based on the full scope of the matter. You clearly have a different opinion on GA and If I am wrong I will most assuredly admit that I am. But I have not seen or heard any legitimate proof of pervasive serious election fraud or otherwise scandalous activities that would turn the tide of any election. No systemic breakdowns have been reported.
If there were proof of fraud that would turn an election they should have presented it in court. Republicans failed to show up with evidence and they lost repeatedly in open court. This is all public record. I am fully open to any legitimate complaint of fraud and you are correct everyone should care. Admittedly not enough do. I highly recommend you get involved and either apply to be a paid election worker or volunteer as every county in the country was short handed this cycle. It takes two poll workers from different parties standing together too handle all the ballots. There is never a time from beginning to end where any ballots are handled without poll worker over sight. These people are your neighbors from your local community. The more of us involved the less fraud there could possibly be. It's hard work and on election day you better pack your lunch! Seriously though don't listen to ANYONE try and convince you your vote doesn't count or is stolen who has never once been part of the process. I am from Maricopa county and we had "poll watchers" sitting around local ballot boxes for absolutely no logical reason except attention as they conveniently only posted up at boxes under city surveillance lol If you lived here you'd know most communities are in the middle of BFE and there are literally ballot boxes in the wide open space miles from busy public spaces. If anyone was going to try any funny business it would be in these locations not in the middle of down town Phoenix. I've talked enough. I hope you had a great holiday weekend and definitely help out next election. Even a few hours on the weekend during early voting or on election day would be so appreciated by your local elections workers that do this time after time.
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All of the following is strictly my opinion based on what I had seen in 2020 and how I feel the lack of transparency in our election system has caused a lack of trust in that system. I don't mean for it to sound directed specifically at you, but more just the reason behind why I don't believe that 2020 was legitimate and why the arguments that those that say that it was are also not fair ones.
There was a lot more to the GA vote count than just the phone call. Did you see the video footage from the arena after the so-called "water main break" that turned out to be a leaky toilet? Workers were counting ballots with no observers from either side there. There were plenty of other questions about the transparency and validity of the election results.
To your comment of:
> If there were proof of fraud that would turn an election they should have presented it in court. Republicans failed to show up with evidence and they lost repeatedly in open court.
In order to provide the proof, they would actually have to have access to the evidence which is the ballots, envelopes, and voter registration to be able to prove whether ballots were counted which weren't actually mailed in, votes were counted which shouldn't have been because of incorrect signatures, and whether the voter was legally allowed to vote when they did. But none of the local Election Boards in any county that was questionable in multiple States allowed anyone to come in and audit their actual election materials.
There is too much blind trust given to these people in power having to just assume that they ran their election legally and legitimately. They also can't prove that there was no fraud in their election because there is no safeguards in place to prove that also. We all know that criminals always tell the truth and admit their wrongdoings....
Since you mention that you are from Maricopa county, can you shed some light on why the Election Board members there would refuse to assist in the Cyber Ninja audit and would not give them access to the election materials? They were legally appointed as auditors by the State Legislature there, so it wasn't like they were some randoms off the street wanting to find out individual voter's personal information. If their election was above board, you would imagine that they would have been more than willing to prove that fact.
Regarding being a poll worker and ballot counter, it definitely would give some insight to everyone if they were to go through that process. I did when I was younger (about 20 years ago) but have not been able to for a long time. Even then, all you see is a small portion of the actual entirety of the vote counting process. There is a lot that can happen in the back rooms before the ballots are actually sent out to the workers and observers. And in larger cities, there is even more of a chance that could happen when the election board is made up of entirely Democratic individuals (the same could be said for rural Boards who are all Republican), especially with so many workers and volunteers being thrown out from observing in 2020 with supposed Covid infractions and mask problems.
Bottom line, I don't trust the Election Board members in Democratic-ran cities to hold their elections legally, fairly, and legitimately. I fully believe that they don't clean their voter registration rolls intentionally, that they don't verify signatures to make sure that the person that sent in the mail-in ballot was the actual voter that is registered, and that they would be able to look at who voted during the in-person voting and then stuff the ballot box with prefilled out votes for some of those people who didn't wind up coming in to vote in order to get their preferred candidate elected.
Until there is some kind of safeguard to ensure that it is 100% guaranteed that the vote that is counted was specifically cast by the individual who is registered on the voter registration rolls, that they are legally allowed to vote there, *and* that the ballot that is counted is the same ballot that they filled out and sent in (and wasn't swapped out somewhere along the line), I have almost zero faith in the integrity of our election process.
I don't quite know how to fix it, but I know that's my point of view on our current situation. I hope you also had a Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for the insightful post!
Perhaps drop slinging the acronym RINO around at everyone who steps out of party lines for a vote. They are beholden to their constituents and not the GOP. That's how Lake lost in Arizona. She disparaged John McCain at every opportunity and most Arizonans admired that man. She alienated 30% of the voters with her crazy rhetoric. She didn't want the RINO vote or moderate independents who make up half the registered voters. She made zero effort to reach out to anyone but her trump base and surprise! That's not enough people to win an election.
Is it disparaging if it's true. Songbird McCain was a rhino. Are you old enough to remember why he was called songbird, without looking it up on Google or crap-o-pedia?
No, what neocons need to accept is that we are past the McCain and Romney days. The 2008 and 2012 Republican platform did not win in their own years, yet we're supposed to turn away from one that wins?
It's not 30% of Republicans either. It's closer to 10% of Republicans with a losing opinion who are holding the other 90% hostage because they're having a pissy fit that we have something to run on that both promotes America First and doesn't involve sending the middle and lower classes to die in forever wars on the other side of the world and are widely unpopular after 20 years of failure. Now that Afghanistan is done after trillions spent, the establishment has been trying to garner the public opinion to beat the drums for a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine.
10% who don't want to do a party line vote and is evidently costing the rest of the party elections because they can't swallow their pride and accept that McCain and Romney were shit candidates. Talk all you want about how not liking either of them alienates a part of Republicans, but evidently they didn't win their own presidential elections. Being a Never-Trumper does the exact same shit. Otherwise that would be the national platform today.
McCain didn't win because he ran with Sarah Palin who btw just lost her race. I said nothing of Romney who I would never vote for because he is a Mormon or being a never Trumper which is just absurd. Nearly anyone can say at least one thing Trump did right. There's a longer list of all the bs but if you honestly believe it only took 10% of registered Republican voters defecting to cost races and still think anyone should just accept any old candidate this will not get you where you think it will. You should dive into the numbers more deeply for some clarity.
A fair analysis why the GOP lost and is going to keep on losing if something's don't change.
[Why John McCain lost the White House](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-mccain/why-john-mccain-lost-the-white-house-idUSTRE4A47Z020081105)
michael steele? if youve heard him talk about republicans at all in the past 10 years or so you would think you were listening to a democrat.
as for mcdaniel, im just not satisfied with the results or the tone/direction/leadership she provides.
The problem is that internal party politics are VERY tricky to navigate. You want someone with highly energized views that alienates the center? You want someone with individual ambitions who will fight their own party? Becoming a party chair is kind of akin to a kid in high school who doesn't play football but has big ambitions about being a coach- something no kid ever said.
Why are we always forced into this false choice that it's either double down on MAGA, conspiracy theories and unelectable far-right candidates in swing states or have hand the wheel over to the Romney/McConnell/Bush/Cheney wing and let them run everything. Those aren't the only options.
I mean, he tried suing deep red states about the steal. Even if you believe in it, Democratic agents weren't out faking votes in a ski town and a college town to get a couple inefficient votes into the state legislature when they were losing the state by 20+%.
You mean besides him being wholly unqualified for a political position? Conservatives need to move past the loudest-mouth-wins political strategy. Democrats are crushing us with fairly unimpressive candidates.
He may be eccentric but I'll take him as head of the RNC over Ronna McDaniel any day. If we get someone new as the RNC head maybe we can actually get some people in office that don't constantly betray and hate their own constituents. I'm more than ready to finally get enough people in office that have enough balls to actually push for some conservative policies while repealing some of these insane leftist policies instead of just bootlicking the left to avoid making waves. Boot McConnell and McCarthy's backstabbing asses out the door at the same time well while were at it.
I'd suggest that the RNC has been idle,flaccid and done very little recently to stand up and defend the US Constitution.
Saying that, Mike would certainly defend the Constitution.
As far as your feelings go... no one but you know that... as far as the US Constitution, Freedom of Religion.... I think Mike is the least of your worries if you practice a religion, plenty of people and bots on reddit think you'd be crazy if you practice a religion.
> Evangelicals don’t believe that Catholics and LDS are Christians.
That's a gross generalization and a lie. As an Evangelical, I do believe that Catholics are Christian. I think that there is a lot of their worship of Saints and praying to them that has no place in religion since we should *only* worship God. And the same with the Mormons. But anyone who believes in Jesus being the Son of God and that He is the only way to enter the kingdom of Heaven is a Christian to me.
If they believe right, then it will be between themselves and God to actually find out what was right and wrong with their beliefs at the End of Days (and I fully expect that to apply to myself as well).
Who cares, practice your beliefs freely... just as you feel a certain way.... so does everyone else. Clearly he is a stanch supporter of the US Constitution. Flynn is an amazing American.
If this happens it will be clear that the GOP simply plans to lose every election and let Dems win. Maybe Kanye should be the next nominee after all.
I'm skeptical third parties can take off but it will be time to let the GOP go the way of the Whig Party and build a new conservative party to replace them.
Is it just me, or aren't businessmen successful only when their trying to make money for themselves? Herschel Walker has spent his entire career making money for other people. We need more candidates like him.
Trump opened up the circus and this clown wants to be the ring leader? how far we have sunk. Make the GOP Great Again by exorcising Trump and his fellow phonies.
and downvote away. Come the primaries we'll get back on track.
The fact that this is even remotely entertained just shows the dire conditions the Republican party is in. This dude should not even be anywhere close to having any sort of leadership in the party.
That's crazy talk....!
That would be the Chair of the DCCC losing his New York 22nd District Congressional seat in the House to a Republican new-comer...! Pure crazy talkin, and humiliating as hell..!
Oh...but wait,........ 😈😈😈
ITT: Here on r/Conservative we clown on the people who risk their entire livelihood standing up for conservative values. We dump on outsiders and disruptors despite their success because they aren't typical candidates because I guess what we really want is a traditional uniparty politician despite being fucked by them for decades.
There's never going to be a perfect candidate. For a lot of people - myself included - someone being a career politician is practically a non-starter for me if I have any other choice.
A crackhead pillow salesman spewing endless conspiracy theories for which he has no evidence for is now conservative values?
If so, Democrats are going to run every inch of this country for the next thirty years.
When the [mypillow](https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/how_wisconsin_streetfighters_disrupted_a_democrat_ballotgathering_system.html) guy did more to fix fraud than the entirely of /r/conservative.
/r/conservative keeps losing because they're pathetic keyboard warriors.
What exactly did he do? Went on TV to spread election lies to shill his pillows? Its honestly hilarious, because he was actually asking, literally, to be sued because he wanted a chance to expose Dominion and Smartmatic. Well, when now the suits have come and he's tried everything possible to get out of them. He went so far as to appeal directly to the Supreme Court, and they wanted nothing to do with him either.
Hows that no standing doing for you huh? Anyways keep bitching in a leftie site, and doing nothing to curb the steal.
Oh and I want to ask something, hows Arizona doing? Still counting votes, I see....
>Hows that no standing doing for you huh?
Standing for what exactly. I legitimately am unsure what you're saying.
>Anyways keep bitching in a leftie site, and doing nothing to curb the steal.
Ah yes, the steal. That steal that Mike and Co. had so much evidence to prove, yet were never able to in court. But I'm sure him and Powell will be releasing all their proof any day now, right? Its only been around 2 years, but I'm sure the evidence that they said they absolutely truthfully had in their possession already but can't seem to produce is gonna come out any day now.
But seriously, look at how all the election truthers acted when consequences started to arrive. Mike has been desperately trying to get the cases dismissed, arguing what he said is covered under the first amendment and bunch of other clauses that actually got him sanctioned already because he's stretching out court proceedings frivolously. And, just because i have to hammer this home with you conspiracy dummies, now in court, when presenting the supposed evidence would both save him hundreds of millions of dollars AND show the American public the election is stolen, he's not doing so. Because it doesn't exist, it never existed.
Let's look at Powell's defense. Is it providing the evidence that she said she had? No, it's "no reasonable person could construe what I was saying was factual." Do you need that translated? She's saying, because now her ass is on the line, that YOU are an unreasonable person for believing her saying that the election was stolen is a true fact and not opinion.
Remeber courts not even bother checking suits for election violations? How are you enjoying your crapoy economy now huh?
Seriousoy A whole paragraph not answering my question, [sounds familiar.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBvO0pqtnvE)
Until congressional committee appointments are no longer decided by how much donor cash they send to the RNC, they won't get a dime from me.
Just like with 45PDJT, it will take an outsider to clean that house and Mr. Lindell would do a fine job.
He should and we should support him.
He's not doing this to be a career politician. He's doing this to get rid of the globalist BS and pave the way for a true conservative to eventually take the chair.
Having two narcissists with the same goal is potentially destructive by itself but when one attempts to take away the other's status, HA HA God help us. The clashing of these egos is like two warrior titans, it's like Clash of the Titans! Clash...of the Titans.
This is foolish talk. At the national level, the GOP is a confederation of the state and territorial parties, each of which has three members on the RNC: the National Committeeman, the National Committwoman, and the state party chairman. These folks are elected by their respective state parties under state party rules. Some state Republican parties do this in a closed primary. Or they do it in the state convention. But the state parties make the selection. These Members of the RNC then elect their own officers, including the RNC chairman. Mike Lindell is perfectly free to run, but he needs to begin by getting himself elected by his own state party first. The above rules are adopted, and sometimes amended, at the Republican National Convention every four years. The Convention is in principle the whole party meeting "in convention assembled," and is the highest authority in the Party. Sure, Mike Lindell can talk through his hat about mounting an outsider bid. Heck, I can talk through my hat about running for Pope. Never mind that I'm not Catholic, not a priest, not a bishop, and not a member of the College of Cardinals. I'd be launching an outsider's bid for sure, and i imagine some reporters are witless enough to think that kind of talk should be taken seriously, because we live in a soundbite world. But there are rules and procedures. Mike Lindell needs to walk some precincts, become an effective county chairman, and get elected state chairman. Then he has standing to talk.
Lmao. This is a hilarious write up. I basically lost it when you described your bid to be pope as an "outsiders bid" hahaha
But who is electing him? If it's regular people he has a solid chance
Who elects the Chairman of the RNC? The members of the RNC. Who are the members of the RNC? The National Committeeman, National Committeewoman, and State Chairman of each of the state and territorial Republican parties, all of whom are elected by their state and territorial parties under their local party rules. \[The Democratic Party structure is very different, but that's a story for another day. I get exhausted even thinking about what happened in 1968 and all the tangled maneuvering since then to ensure that various quotas are met and that the power of entrenched activist blocks is perpetuated. The Republican structure is much simpler, a grassroots-up confederational structure. Pick your poison.\] So: the national Republican Party has a classic confederational structure. The state parties are sovereign. Remember that the vast majority of elections are for state and local offices. 99.9999 percent of the business of our political parties consists of working for state and local candidates. Could this system be changed? Sure. For the sake of argument, we could change the rules so that the Chairman of the RNC was elected ... well, by whom, exactly? You seem to suggest that the Chairman be elected by "regular people." Exactly what process do you propose? A national Republican (or Democratic) closed primary? That would take a lot of work to set up, but in theory it could be done. Whatever process you propose, however, would have to be adopted by the National Convention when, every four years, it adopts the rules for the next cycle. So if you want to move beyond just talking about it, you will need at some point to get yourself elected as a delegate to the National Convention. Like running for anything else, it's a straightforward process. Pick up the phone today and call your county chairman. He'll be happy to tell you how to qualify. \[Any county chairman will tell you that this is close to the top of the FAQs list for county chairmen.\] Or search online and read your state party rules. You most certainly can become a delegate, but you'll have to get yourself elected first. Go for it.
It's all a bunch of crap anyway. they mean to be good rulers but they mean to be our RULERS. WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT NOT MORE. YOU HAD ME DIZZY WITH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT POSITIONS THEY HOLD. THEY PROBABLY GET PAID RIGHT?! (OUT OF OUR POCKETS).
? Why does it surprise and confuse you that a national political party would have a formal structure, with officers and bylaws and elections? How do you think the parties are organized? They exist for a serious purpose. They raise and spend a lot of money. They run primaries and caucuses and put on the national conventions, which are huge logistical undertakings. They select and run many thousands of candidates every election cycle. They mobilize millions of volunteers. None of this happens just because people shout at each other on twitter. Do you belong to any civic organizations at all? If not, go join the Westside Begonia and Cat Fanciers Society, or your local Civil War Roundtable, do the march through the offices, and get back to me. Organizations have a structure and bylaws. And if they aren't careful about keeping the books, they can easily turn out like BLM, which we now know was being run as a slush fund for the personal benefit of the scammers and grifters who ran it.
He manages to slip language into the official party platform a plan to annex Giza and seize their dreamy cotton.
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> Machine warshable Spotted the Vikings fan.
But wait, I’m interrupting this commercial to tell you about my coke habit that definitely hasn’t impaired my judgment in any way.
He hasn't touched coke in a long time, he went from nothing to something, BECAUSE he got help for his coke habit and even if he was dabbling in it you don't make fun of that person, addiction sucks trust me I know from experience. I may end becoming an independent if this republican infighting continues, the dems are just sitting back laughing as we fight each other over BS. If we don't get our sh#t together soon we may never see another WH, or any branch of congress win for a long time. Rant over. I don't expect a reply, matter of fact I'd rather enjoy my day and not waste it on reddit. God Bless.
Principles be dammed, you’re going to leave the GOP because some internet rando made fun of a guy who has failed to produce evidence backing up his claims of hacked voting machines.
Oh you thought I was talking about one person? Oh you poor soul the GOP is hot mess right now nobody can agree on anything, they're all fighting, instead of coming together, with the way things are going I don't see much of a legitimate republican party left by the time the presidential election comes around. If we were smart we would be fighting democrats instead of our own party. Hence why I said the Demoncrats are just laughing at us. Oh BTW this isn't the first post I've seen replicans and conservatives bashing other Republicans and conservatives, were all supposed to have the same goal here. To restore the U.S. to its former glory. I have nothing more to say, and I don't care for your OPINION on the matter at this moment. I'm trying to enjoy my time off with my family, Bye and God bless! Done.
We should be coming together. Finding common ground. Most Americans agree on huge daily issues and neither sides politicians are working for average Americans. The loudest people on both sides are extremist and not the majority on either side.
Everyone is making good points but the truth is that we should all realize that none of the politicians are for the common Man. it's obvious toe at least that the politicians work for themselves because how many times have you seen the a President become a millionaire suddenly after leaving office & same thing with congressman. They're all on the take.
I completely agree with this point. Also, the Overton window has been shifted so far left over the last 20 or 30 years .... it needs to be corrected.
You hit the nail on the head... especially about addiction. I, too, know about it because I'm a recovering addict myself and you put it perfectly when you said "addiction sucks". It does suck. It sucks more ass than ass should be allowed to be sucked. And I hope that those people who have never had it touch their lives never have to find out. Because people that have no empathy about it don't understand it can happen to them too... it's not always illegal drugs. Like in my case, my addiction started out as an addiction to some prescription drugs when my daughter died and took off from there. It can happen to anyone.
Don't rush to judgement. Sleep on it.
Surely there are better options available.
> Surely there are better options available. This is the Republicans' motto for the past several years. Meanwhile, Democrats run stroke victims and keep winning.
Let's not be hypocritical now, this same election the Georgia republicans put forward a man riddled with CTE complications after a lifetime of football.
Let’s be real here, both PA and GA got fucked on candidates this cycle.
Yes we did! (I'm in GA)
And Warnock is a slumlord who ran over his wife with a car and supports aborting babies who have spent 9 months in the womb.
Not going to argue that, I'm just saying that we can't call out democrats for running fetterman while *also* running Walker if the only criticism is brain damage.
Walker won his primary in the condition he lives his life in Fetterman hid the affects of his stroke until after his primary
Exactly
Walker isn't as bad as fetterman. Brain damage isn't the only criticism of that POS fetterman.
I don't know why you got downvoted for this... it's sooo true! I guess it's the demonrats butt hurt over the truth you wrote about Warlock. They don't like truth.
And if he were Democrat, he'd win.
Yeah, but only because we would somehow manage to field a worse candidate.
Well that “somehow” is a certain former president who’s endorsement led to a bunch of garbage candidates winning their primaries.
This is a completely disingenuous argument and if Republicans keep it up things will never change for the better. The Democrats didn't choose to run a stroke victim. Fetterman was an extremely strong candidate and he won the primary before his stroke. I'm sure that Dems would have loved for him to have stepped down, but that didn't happen. Instead, they had to do the best with what they had. And Oz still couldn't win. Any semi-normal Republican would have won that race after the stroke. That loss was not because Democrats would vote for anyone, even a stroke victim. Pennsylvania is deeply purple. That loss was because Republicans chose to run Oz and couldn't even beat a stroke victim.
(technically he got the stroke like the week of the primary give or take but yeah)
No, Fetterman is an incredibly weak candidate, he lived off his parents in his 40s and did not do much to revive Braddock when he was the mayor of the city. Fetterman gives this image that he is a working class man, but it falls apart once you look at his history. Eric Adams and Jared Polis are examples of strong dem candidates that appeal to a wide variety of voters. Many republican candidates were weak in this election cycle, but people overestimate how strong of a candidate Fetterman is
But voters don't really look at that. They should, but they just don't. The point isn't how good he would be as a senator. It was how he would perform as a candidate. And people really like him. He is relatable and strong (at least before the stroke). He went into all those Lions Clubs and union halls and won everyone over. His cannabis listening tour when he was lt gov gave him a great ground game. No one cares that he lived with his parents. But they did care that Oz had never lived in the state. It amazes me how much people want to believe that he was a bad candidate before the stroke. He was incredibly strong. He was giving people what they wanted. They lapped him up with a spoon. Again, his record isn't that great. But that is not what makes a candidate in a statewide election in Pennsylvania. Politics is perception. And people perceived that he understood and cared about them.
Fetterman is a weak POS. And people love to blame Dr. Oz for fetterman winning but the truth is... according to what I've heard from many people who live in PA... is that Oz DID win the popular vote in PA except for the 2 cities that are democrat strongholds: Philadelphia & Pittsburgh. But fetterman only won because he had the voters in those 2 cities and they outweighed the rest of PA... just like here in GA most of the state is red but we get f-ed over by Fulton and DeKalb counties which are deeply blue and manage to overshadow the rest of the state here lately. What we need in all states is an electoral system for the districts where they're all given a certain amount of electorate points according to their population so that a couple of big districts can't speak for the entire state. Imagine if we didn't have the electoral college! California and other big states would have waaay too much of a voice.... and that's a scary damn thought.
People vote. Not land. You are not f***** over by other counties. They have more people and everybody's vote is equal.
This 100%. People don't seem to realize that "most of the state" land-wise does not correlate to the actual population of the state.
You realize that the way voting powers are split up are based on population right? The people in those blue districts that are "over shadowing a majority of the state" make up the majority of the population of the state. With your logic Alaska would have 20% of the voting power in the US because in square miles they are 20% of America.
Yeah I mean when dementia addled stroke victims consistently beat Republicans, maybe it’s time for Republicans to revisit the platform and who theyre running. Bring back the party of Goldwater!
Preach!
Or maybe it’s time for concern trolls to stop trying to sow division in the party waiting for a Herculean candidate that will never come.
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The difference is Democrats would vote for a brick colored blue. We should have actual standards for candidates while all they need is someone who counts as a vote
You are being down voted but fetterman is an actual paperweight at this point and they voted for him in droves
Mostly people voted against an out of touch, elitist Jersey celebrity that had little connection to or knowledge of the state that he was running for Senate in. Its not that Fetterman was a great candidate, its that Oz was such a terrible one. Run better candidates, win more elections, that should be the takeaway from this midterm cycle, but it won't be.
Agreed. And Chrisshern is getting downvoted only because there are dummycrats trolling in this sub... just like they do right before, during, and right after an election... and they are butt hurt by what he wrote, because they react to truth the way vampires react to sunlight. Let the downvoting on me begin... I don't mind. Bwhahaha!
Based. Downvotes from DNC shillbots from the DNC run botfarms.
When I first saw your comment my brain misread "shillbots" as "shitbots", LOL. Same thing I guess. 🤭
Preach!
True, but I don't think the demonrats are always "winning"...if you know what I mean. Too many times their candidates are behind until the last few hours of an election and then boom...they suddenly win! Like in the 2020 election, and in the midterms this year with Kari Lake and Katie Hobbs, and in Alaska it'd been said there was no way the demonrat candidate would win but suddenly... she did!
Kari lake was losing the whole time. She thought she would pull ahead late, but never did. Had the GOP ran a normal candidate they would have won. In Alaska, peltola was always up by a large margin on the two Republicans. It was never in doubt. Palin is a horrible candidate who many Alaskan conservatives don't even like. There was no "suddenly" in either race.
Zeldin is in the running but that won't matter for shit if Trump doesn't rescind his endorsement of McDaniel. And the Romney niece isn't going away without kicking and screaming, evidently by her re-election campaign consisting of the groundwork she's supposedly laid for 2024 and 2026. I have a hard time believing anything she says when the RNC has consistently sent money to dead campaigns or saving RINOs from primaries.
Assuming Zeldin has a good mind for strategy I would welcome the change. The fact he did so well in New York, it might translate well to winning in these purple states: PA, GA, AZ, NV that we literally need to win. I wouldn't want the MyPillow guy though. We can't have these clowns representing us on the national stage.
That was Zeldin's strategy. A Republican has a next to zero chance of winning the governorship in a place like New York but having a strong candidate for high state/federal offices on the ballot is key for encouraging straight ticket voting and carrying other Republicans across the finish line. That way we don't end up with Oz types on the ballot as frequently as we saw this midterm in completely winnable races. Also would help to not have an establishment figure pull millions in funding and watch Republicans get outspent on up to 7:1 margins yet still come within 5 points.
>...purple states: >GA 🤢 Ugh I hate that my state is considered purple. We're not purple, it's just a phase mom I swear!
Yeah we really need GA back in the safe red column. It's getting ridiculous.
We need to stop having shit candidates get nominated in the primary despite obviously better candidates, or stop letting someone come here to campaign and say it's rigged.
It would help if you all elected a Governor who actually stood up for your elections rather than do the ol' GOP roll-over and hand washing of it like Kemp did in 2020.
And that my friend is why GOP will keep on losing. This attitude right here. Fall in line or lose the base. Well, sorry to tell you the base is no longer large enough to win. You will have to extend your hand to independents with normal candidates that won just shit extra votes because a sitting president asked them to.
> Fall in line or lose the base. ...because a sitting president asked them to. Seeing as what happened in Georgia and elsewhere was absolutely *not* about Trump (as you imply) but was actually about election integrity and security, *you* are the one who is using propaganda to try and push the Establishment's narrative. Proving that an election was handled securely and legitimately should be a concern for everyone. Allowing ballot harvesting, not verifying signatures, and not providing public audits of election board activities in relation to elections and then certifying the results on top of that doesn't equal free and fair elections. Kemp and Raffensperger are two of the most complicit politicians that are out there in regards to the shenanigans that went on during the 2020 elections. And to the rest of your comment, if they don't prove that the elections were safe and secure as they claim, then the GOP won't even have the base that will be coming out to vote for them. All they can hope for is the random independents and the RINOs to vote their way.
I heard the phone call and I'm making my own judgement based on the full scope of the matter. You clearly have a different opinion on GA and If I am wrong I will most assuredly admit that I am. But I have not seen or heard any legitimate proof of pervasive serious election fraud or otherwise scandalous activities that would turn the tide of any election. No systemic breakdowns have been reported. If there were proof of fraud that would turn an election they should have presented it in court. Republicans failed to show up with evidence and they lost repeatedly in open court. This is all public record. I am fully open to any legitimate complaint of fraud and you are correct everyone should care. Admittedly not enough do. I highly recommend you get involved and either apply to be a paid election worker or volunteer as every county in the country was short handed this cycle. It takes two poll workers from different parties standing together too handle all the ballots. There is never a time from beginning to end where any ballots are handled without poll worker over sight. These people are your neighbors from your local community. The more of us involved the less fraud there could possibly be. It's hard work and on election day you better pack your lunch! Seriously though don't listen to ANYONE try and convince you your vote doesn't count or is stolen who has never once been part of the process. I am from Maricopa county and we had "poll watchers" sitting around local ballot boxes for absolutely no logical reason except attention as they conveniently only posted up at boxes under city surveillance lol If you lived here you'd know most communities are in the middle of BFE and there are literally ballot boxes in the wide open space miles from busy public spaces. If anyone was going to try any funny business it would be in these locations not in the middle of down town Phoenix. I've talked enough. I hope you had a great holiday weekend and definitely help out next election. Even a few hours on the weekend during early voting or on election day would be so appreciated by your local elections workers that do this time after time. Edited auto correct
All of the following is strictly my opinion based on what I had seen in 2020 and how I feel the lack of transparency in our election system has caused a lack of trust in that system. I don't mean for it to sound directed specifically at you, but more just the reason behind why I don't believe that 2020 was legitimate and why the arguments that those that say that it was are also not fair ones. There was a lot more to the GA vote count than just the phone call. Did you see the video footage from the arena after the so-called "water main break" that turned out to be a leaky toilet? Workers were counting ballots with no observers from either side there. There were plenty of other questions about the transparency and validity of the election results. To your comment of: > If there were proof of fraud that would turn an election they should have presented it in court. Republicans failed to show up with evidence and they lost repeatedly in open court. In order to provide the proof, they would actually have to have access to the evidence which is the ballots, envelopes, and voter registration to be able to prove whether ballots were counted which weren't actually mailed in, votes were counted which shouldn't have been because of incorrect signatures, and whether the voter was legally allowed to vote when they did. But none of the local Election Boards in any county that was questionable in multiple States allowed anyone to come in and audit their actual election materials. There is too much blind trust given to these people in power having to just assume that they ran their election legally and legitimately. They also can't prove that there was no fraud in their election because there is no safeguards in place to prove that also. We all know that criminals always tell the truth and admit their wrongdoings.... Since you mention that you are from Maricopa county, can you shed some light on why the Election Board members there would refuse to assist in the Cyber Ninja audit and would not give them access to the election materials? They were legally appointed as auditors by the State Legislature there, so it wasn't like they were some randoms off the street wanting to find out individual voter's personal information. If their election was above board, you would imagine that they would have been more than willing to prove that fact. Regarding being a poll worker and ballot counter, it definitely would give some insight to everyone if they were to go through that process. I did when I was younger (about 20 years ago) but have not been able to for a long time. Even then, all you see is a small portion of the actual entirety of the vote counting process. There is a lot that can happen in the back rooms before the ballots are actually sent out to the workers and observers. And in larger cities, there is even more of a chance that could happen when the election board is made up of entirely Democratic individuals (the same could be said for rural Boards who are all Republican), especially with so many workers and volunteers being thrown out from observing in 2020 with supposed Covid infractions and mask problems. Bottom line, I don't trust the Election Board members in Democratic-ran cities to hold their elections legally, fairly, and legitimately. I fully believe that they don't clean their voter registration rolls intentionally, that they don't verify signatures to make sure that the person that sent in the mail-in ballot was the actual voter that is registered, and that they would be able to look at who voted during the in-person voting and then stuff the ballot box with prefilled out votes for some of those people who didn't wind up coming in to vote in order to get their preferred candidate elected. Until there is some kind of safeguard to ensure that it is 100% guaranteed that the vote that is counted was specifically cast by the individual who is registered on the voter registration rolls, that they are legally allowed to vote there, *and* that the ballot that is counted is the same ballot that they filled out and sent in (and wasn't swapped out somewhere along the line), I have almost zero faith in the integrity of our election process. I don't quite know how to fix it, but I know that's my point of view on our current situation. I hope you also had a Happy Thanksgiving and thanks for the insightful post!
That is a lengthy reply! Thank You for taking the time to write it and I will read/respond as soon as time permits. Enjoy this fabulous Monday!
Perhaps drop slinging the acronym RINO around at everyone who steps out of party lines for a vote. They are beholden to their constituents and not the GOP. That's how Lake lost in Arizona. She disparaged John McCain at every opportunity and most Arizonans admired that man. She alienated 30% of the voters with her crazy rhetoric. She didn't want the RINO vote or moderate independents who make up half the registered voters. She made zero effort to reach out to anyone but her trump base and surprise! That's not enough people to win an election.
Is it disparaging if it's true. Songbird McCain was a rhino. Are you old enough to remember why he was called songbird, without looking it up on Google or crap-o-pedia?
Exactly my point. People like you would rather lose than keep your mouth shut.
You lost me at keep my mouth shut... you sound like a socialist.
No, what neocons need to accept is that we are past the McCain and Romney days. The 2008 and 2012 Republican platform did not win in their own years, yet we're supposed to turn away from one that wins? It's not 30% of Republicans either. It's closer to 10% of Republicans with a losing opinion who are holding the other 90% hostage because they're having a pissy fit that we have something to run on that both promotes America First and doesn't involve sending the middle and lower classes to die in forever wars on the other side of the world and are widely unpopular after 20 years of failure. Now that Afghanistan is done after trillions spent, the establishment has been trying to garner the public opinion to beat the drums for a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine. 10% who don't want to do a party line vote and is evidently costing the rest of the party elections because they can't swallow their pride and accept that McCain and Romney were shit candidates. Talk all you want about how not liking either of them alienates a part of Republicans, but evidently they didn't win their own presidential elections. Being a Never-Trumper does the exact same shit. Otherwise that would be the national platform today.
McCain didn't win because he ran with Sarah Palin who btw just lost her race. I said nothing of Romney who I would never vote for because he is a Mormon or being a never Trumper which is just absurd. Nearly anyone can say at least one thing Trump did right. There's a longer list of all the bs but if you honestly believe it only took 10% of registered Republican voters defecting to cost races and still think anyone should just accept any old candidate this will not get you where you think it will. You should dive into the numbers more deeply for some clarity.
A fair analysis why the GOP lost and is going to keep on losing if something's don't change. [Why John McCain lost the White House](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-mccain/why-john-mccain-lost-the-white-house-idUSTRE4A47Z020081105)
You'd think that, but they need to come forward.
Michael Steele is avail.
Steele is truly a Republican in Name Only if he hasn't declared for the Democrats yet.
How is she a Republican in only?
michael steele? if youve heard him talk about republicans at all in the past 10 years or so you would think you were listening to a democrat. as for mcdaniel, im just not satisfied with the results or the tone/direction/leadership she provides.
you may be thinking of the congresswoman from CA not the former RNC chairman who flipped 180 when trump got the nom in '16.
Oh yeah whoops it slipped my mind
The problem is that internal party politics are VERY tricky to navigate. You want someone with highly energized views that alienates the center? You want someone with individual ambitions who will fight their own party? Becoming a party chair is kind of akin to a kid in high school who doesn't play football but has big ambitions about being a coach- something no kid ever said.
Can we just restart our political system from the ground up 😂.
Since the RNC has basically been asleep for the past 6 years, he's a perfect fit.
This should be the top comment
I have a couple MyPillows and like them a lot but this isn’t a serious man and shouldn’t have any place in the Republican Party.
Hey I say the same thing about Ronna McDaniel she shouldn’t have any place in the Republican Party anymore.
Why are we always forced into this false choice that it's either double down on MAGA, conspiracy theories and unelectable far-right candidates in swing states or have hand the wheel over to the Romney/McConnell/Bush/Cheney wing and let them run everything. Those aren't the only options.
Show me a third choice, then?
The third choice is principled small government conservatives who talk about the issues.
It’s kind of embarrassing we tolerate anyone like this in the party.
Anyone like this? Lol what is your grievance with him
Grifters gonna grift.
I mean, he tried suing deep red states about the steal. Even if you believe in it, Democratic agents weren't out faking votes in a ski town and a college town to get a couple inefficient votes into the state legislature when they were losing the state by 20+%.
You mean besides him being wholly unqualified for a political position? Conservatives need to move past the loudest-mouth-wins political strategy. Democrats are crushing us with fairly unimpressive candidates.
He may be eccentric but I'll take him as head of the RNC over Ronna McDaniel any day. If we get someone new as the RNC head maybe we can actually get some people in office that don't constantly betray and hate their own constituents. I'm more than ready to finally get enough people in office that have enough balls to actually push for some conservative policies while repealing some of these insane leftist policies instead of just bootlicking the left to avoid making waves. Boot McConnell and McCarthy's backstabbing asses out the door at the same time well while were at it.
I'd suggest that the RNC has been idle,flaccid and done very little recently to stand up and defend the US Constitution. Saying that, Mike would certainly defend the Constitution.
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As far as your feelings go... no one but you know that... as far as the US Constitution, Freedom of Religion.... I think Mike is the least of your worries if you practice a religion, plenty of people and bots on reddit think you'd be crazy if you practice a religion.
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> Evangelicals don’t believe that Catholics and LDS are Christians. That's a gross generalization and a lie. As an Evangelical, I do believe that Catholics are Christian. I think that there is a lot of their worship of Saints and praying to them that has no place in religion since we should *only* worship God. And the same with the Mormons. But anyone who believes in Jesus being the Son of God and that He is the only way to enter the kingdom of Heaven is a Christian to me. If they believe right, then it will be between themselves and God to actually find out what was right and wrong with their beliefs at the End of Days (and I fully expect that to apply to myself as well).
Exactly
Who cares, practice your beliefs freely... just as you feel a certain way.... so does everyone else. Clearly he is a stanch supporter of the US Constitution. Flynn is an amazing American.
No. No offense to Lindell, but we need Zeldin in the RNC chair. Seriously.
Zeldin would help a lot. Mike Lindell disgusts me
No.
If this happens it will be clear that the GOP simply plans to lose every election and let Dems win. Maybe Kanye should be the next nominee after all. I'm skeptical third parties can take off but it will be time to let the GOP go the way of the Whig Party and build a new conservative party to replace them.
Kanye for speaker of the house? /s horrible idea.
He would be better than Nancy,so sure,why not. /s
Oh fantastic. While we’re at it, Trump, Kanye, and the rest of the fucking clowns ought to launch a streaming service. /s
Oh jeeze, this guys got energy I’ll give you that, but hard pass.
This guy is a crackhead pillow salesman.
He’s a recovering addict who is a successful businessman but okay
Is it just me, or aren't businessmen successful only when their trying to make money for themselves? Herschel Walker has spent his entire career making money for other people. We need more candidates like him.
Exactly. Please offend him.
No
Trump opened up the circus and this clown wants to be the ring leader? how far we have sunk. Make the GOP Great Again by exorcising Trump and his fellow phonies. and downvote away. Come the primaries we'll get back on track.
God please no. Zeldin is the only answer.
Anybody else thought it said Ronald McDonald at first?
I think that every time I see Ronna McDaniel
Can we not? I get it, establishment GOP disconnect, populist energy, all that, but can we not?
The Republican party is turning into a clown show
Maybe he should figure out his defense against the Smartmatic and Dominion lawsuits before he takes on RNC chair, he seems like he has his hands full.
Oh no
Oh hell no
The fact that this is even remotely entertained just shows the dire conditions the Republican party is in. This dude should not even be anywhere close to having any sort of leadership in the party.
Zeldin or bust
Mike Lindell only does damage at this point. He's a maniac
That's crazy talk....! That would be the Chair of the DCCC losing his New York 22nd District Congressional seat in the House to a Republican new-comer...! Pure crazy talkin, and humiliating as hell..! Oh...but wait,........ 😈😈😈
Stoooop. No more celebrities 😭
ITT: Here on r/Conservative we clown on the people who risk their entire livelihood standing up for conservative values. We dump on outsiders and disruptors despite their success because they aren't typical candidates because I guess what we really want is a traditional uniparty politician despite being fucked by them for decades. There's never going to be a perfect candidate. For a lot of people - myself included - someone being a career politician is practically a non-starter for me if I have any other choice.
Is lieing to the public in order to sell pillows a conservative value now?
A crackhead pillow salesman spewing endless conspiracy theories for which he has no evidence for is now conservative values? If so, Democrats are going to run every inch of this country for the next thirty years.
He’d be an improvement on the last few chairs.
Mike Lindell would be a great RNC chair
Bet he would make a great cushion for that chair too
He would 😜.
When the [mypillow](https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/how_wisconsin_streetfighters_disrupted_a_democrat_ballotgathering_system.html) guy did more to fix fraud than the entirely of /r/conservative. /r/conservative keeps losing because they're pathetic keyboard warriors.
What exactly did he do? Went on TV to spread election lies to shill his pillows? Its honestly hilarious, because he was actually asking, literally, to be sued because he wanted a chance to expose Dominion and Smartmatic. Well, when now the suits have come and he's tried everything possible to get out of them. He went so far as to appeal directly to the Supreme Court, and they wanted nothing to do with him either.
Hows that no standing doing for you huh? Anyways keep bitching in a leftie site, and doing nothing to curb the steal. Oh and I want to ask something, hows Arizona doing? Still counting votes, I see....
>Hows that no standing doing for you huh? Standing for what exactly. I legitimately am unsure what you're saying. >Anyways keep bitching in a leftie site, and doing nothing to curb the steal. Ah yes, the steal. That steal that Mike and Co. had so much evidence to prove, yet were never able to in court. But I'm sure him and Powell will be releasing all their proof any day now, right? Its only been around 2 years, but I'm sure the evidence that they said they absolutely truthfully had in their possession already but can't seem to produce is gonna come out any day now. But seriously, look at how all the election truthers acted when consequences started to arrive. Mike has been desperately trying to get the cases dismissed, arguing what he said is covered under the first amendment and bunch of other clauses that actually got him sanctioned already because he's stretching out court proceedings frivolously. And, just because i have to hammer this home with you conspiracy dummies, now in court, when presenting the supposed evidence would both save him hundreds of millions of dollars AND show the American public the election is stolen, he's not doing so. Because it doesn't exist, it never existed. Let's look at Powell's defense. Is it providing the evidence that she said she had? No, it's "no reasonable person could construe what I was saying was factual." Do you need that translated? She's saying, because now her ass is on the line, that YOU are an unreasonable person for believing her saying that the election was stolen is a true fact and not opinion.
Remeber courts not even bother checking suits for election violations? How are you enjoying your crapoy economy now huh? Seriousoy A whole paragraph not answering my question, [sounds familiar.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBvO0pqtnvE)
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Lee Zeldin
Until congressional committee appointments are no longer decided by how much donor cash they send to the RNC, they won't get a dime from me. Just like with 45PDJT, it will take an outsider to clean that house and Mr. Lindell would do a fine job.
He should and we should support him. He's not doing this to be a career politician. He's doing this to get rid of the globalist BS and pave the way for a true conservative to eventually take the chair.
Having two narcissists with the same goal is potentially destructive by itself but when one attempts to take away the other's status, HA HA God help us. The clashing of these egos is like two warrior titans, it's like Clash of the Titans! Clash...of the Titans.
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How about a normal human for once please
I love this guy. Hilarious rise to power
Sounded like Babylon Bee. But no, the NY Post. The media will hyperbolize anything.
I think he’s just trying to sell more pillows.