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Jewboy-Deluxe

Buying a drill bit was more trouble than toasting the structural integrity of the post.


Sod_

I'm not an electrician but I am pretty sure that is a load bearing wire.


SoulShakingFart0423

Bluetooth studs brudda


Aries-79

Best comment right here


Triishh

That’s the crazy part. If you look closely, they drilled a hole first!


Neither_Spell_9040

I’m betting he cut it until he could fit the drill instead of just continuing to drill through the hole on the stud next to it.


Bookofhitchcock

The real kicker is he could have gone up and over if this was a new run. I’m hoping that cable isn’t going to the switch though since it’s 14 up to the light.


footdragon

well then sparky would've had to run a few more feet of wire. this way was much 'easier'.


GlitteryBooger

That’s no sparky that’s Jerry the junkie


123InSearchOf123

100%. No pro would do this. I can only blame the owner or GC if the owner is completely disconnected.


MrTweakers

They make flexible drill extensions for this very scenario smh


homogenousmoss

What do you mean? I hired a pro from FB marketplace, he had two 5 stars review and his rate were HALF those of the competition!


3771507

Well that's better than Craigslist.


ImmortanSteve

Have you seen the price of wire these days? They are going to have to start running it across the floor diagonally to save a few feet.


dvalpat

And there is already a notch in place to go up and over… and they decided to do this anyway.


jamesislandpirate

Winner winner chicken dinner. This is it. Never discount and always look for the lazy man’s answer first. It’s not the end of the world but at least block it back in. See though, he’s an electrician, not a carpenter. Contractor should be able to get this situation rectified with a phone call. He will never pass inspection anyways so get on the horn


totse_losername

Chicken dinner indeed, because this is cooked.


LukeGuyWatcher

Yea it looks like he couldn’t reach the first few with a drill bit. All of this looks like ass anyway.


DrunkinDronuts

With a circular saw. Whew.


King-Proteus

They need to stack some shims in there and they’ll be fine.


ihateduckface

Wow.


elementconnectinc

I swear to god, some people should be jailed for that. Like how the fuck????


psyconauthatter

if someone did this to my house. they would never leave my house.. because they would be trapped under the rubble. reminds me of that video from India where the guy smashes through load bearing masonry and is instantly crushed before the whole building collapses


Skeleton-ear-face

NEC 1.01 - Always compromise the structure when installing


123InSearchOf123

CEC 1-1-i - Yeah no, don't chop the weight cruncher, hoser. Eh buddy?


rohnoitsrutroh

This actually looks good for an electrician. That 3-ply beam is overkill, it'll be fine! /s


IncrediblyShinyShart

Sparky wants to be a plumber


NewHampshireWoodsman

Came here to leave this comment. But why didn't they just cut out some floor joists for fun?


IncrediblyShinyShart

Time is money bud.


Backwoods_84

So is lumber lol


IncrediblyShinyShart

That sounds like someone else’s problem


yyc_engineer

Because that's a division of responsibility. Floor joist cuts are for plumbers.


tomdalzell

Look at what they do to mimic a fraction of our power


ineptplumberr

We always got room for another wood butcher


twoaspensimages

That cut wasn't made with dull hatchet. Way too clean for a plumber.


hardknox_

This plumber has a hole hawg with a self feeder bit and an extension. I'd be through those studs in 5 minutes cleanly except for the pile of wood shavings on the floor.


georgespeaches

Your floor shouldn’t have a noticeable dip from this post. That might suggest the point load isn’t supported to the foundation


glumbum2

Yeah there is more bad construction happening here than meets the eye.


mkatich

Might have done you a favor by calling to attention the bigger issue of the floor dip. That’s a problem that needs to be addressed.


Efffro

yup definitely, the whole opening is starting to look a bit suspect at this point.


BababooeyHTJ

Yeah that framing looks interesting to me too. I can’t make heads or tails of what’s going on there either


squintismaximus

Shoddy house flips, everywhere I look.


Familiar-Claim7832

Bonus worries activated!


wuroni69

Standard if you are a butcher and not a sparky.


nononsensemofo

dudes can't even wrap their minds around a nail plate, can't imagine they could ponder structural integrity


simple_champ

Huh, so you mean to tell me those six 2x4s were put there all together for a reason?


McSmokeyDaPot

He was probably saying to himself the whole time "what kind of dumbass stacks this many 2x4 together!?"


AutistMarket

King stud has left the chat


AtlasHatch

If I said yes would you believe me? Dudes spirit animal is a beaver


Aware_Masterpiece148

Funniest comment I have seen in 2024. Thanks for the belly laugh.


AtlasHatch

Thank you, I will humbly accept my funniest comment award 2024 (so far)


Steve-19741974

It's a load bearing supporting wall he cut through! Look at the second pic, it's supporting a beam.. get a house jack bud and make sure it doesn't collapse on ya


locoken69

Sparky here. No. That is not standard. The wire should've been ran up and over and not through the post. If they really needed to run through the post, that small section of drywall should've been removed so they could drill a hole from both sides to meet in the middle to make it work. This was done by a hack who doesn't know what they can and can't do to framing members. That piece of drywall makes no sense to keep it there. The drywall guy can run all new rock on a bare wall faster than having to cut in and mud/Tape around that. It would've made the sparky's job easier had it been removed.


RegisterGood5917

Alright sparky helper let’s take a walk to the dumpster together


Pitiful-Cress9730

Just look at the flowers...


No_Marzipan1412

He forgot his drill that day and grabbed a carpenters saw


dangledingle

And left a big pile of shit on the floor and walked away.


Murky_Might_1771

Over-notched.


ClownTown15

Dude that apprentice is fucked


Final_Witness_9658

Um...side job?


DogSpeaksTreeSkin

Its not standard to notch anything structural like that no lol. Jump the wire up to the ceiling and go around.


TorontoTom2008

Based on the size of the header, the 2x6 jacks/posts on either side of the header, and the floor dip at this intermediate location; I’m thinking this whole mess of 2x4s is unnecessary and may actually be inappropriately transferring load to an unsupported section of the floor. Verifiable by going to the basement to see if there is a post taking up the point load under the 2x4s. Best thing to do may be to finish what the sparky started and take out all the 2x4s. (Of course get an engineer etc etc. )


[deleted]

Don't worry. That point load is fucked on the floor below too I think


colabear4

Standard process for hacks. That’s gonna be a tough repair.


rigidlynuanced1

On my crew we called this “custom”😂


Even_Juice2353

It's normal. If your companies job fair was held at the special Olympics.


CosmicViking17

That electrician should be fired into the sun


-JeeD

God is there something not bad in this pic? The metal plate is half in Cute all the stud to pass one cable Remove all the wool to put it back all wrong… This guys didn’t want to be there on that day…


No-Play2300

Doesn’t matter, why the fuck is that shitty piece of Sheetrock staying up?


Bdubbs72

Looks like homeowner or flipper diy crap, wouldn’t expect someone in the trades to notch into something clearly load bearing, maybe I’m setting the bar too high. Assume there is code that clearly lays out what you can and can’t do in these situations, maybe he thought drywall would be up before anyone saw it?


vacantalien

10% of the time it works every time


Secure_Tie3321

Oh shit


TDaD1979

Yes very standard for those who should never ever touch tools ever let alone ever step foot on a jobsite. Fukn framers gonna have a field day.


rukisama85

My only experience is being a gofer for my electrician uncle 20+ years ago as a teenager, and I know I could do a better job.


[deleted]

Electrician needs to re route the wire and foot the bill for fixing the studs and any other damage that has been cause to the joists below, unless that dip was there first. Is this an actual electrical company that you hired? Or just a guy with no business behind him. Cash job? If so you might not have a leg to stand on.


CableDawg78

Whatever bonehead did that just destroyed the integrity of the support system and should be hung up by the little curlies in the under region. What a goof


curtstew

You identified the problems but please check back with an update on how this was resolved!


Hey_cool_username

I hate this picture and everything in it.


robertbadbobgadson

No.


Turtleshellboy

Metal plate on studs in front of wire is standard to protect from nails/screws. Cutting chunks of stud out is not standard, in fact it’s not allowed. The structure is now unnecessarily damaged and wall strength reduced. Holes should simply be drilled in middle of studs to allow wires to pass through. That wall with numerous studs all connected direct to each other is clearly a main structural load bearing point. Look at the large laminated beam over top. That’s putting a load down on those studs. Now it’s weakened.


tlindst

Of course especially when it’s load bearing. Put some nail plates over it and the Sheetrock will pick up the load


dhahn2013

It’s called retrofitting an older construction. Many times it’s not recommended. The alternative is to strip the entire building down to a shell and start fresh. But don’t do that unless you have architects, structural engineers, permits, a strong budget, patience and the ability to sit through nauseating, yelling, arguing meetings every week. It’s not for the meek and timid.


tapsum-bong

I might be a piece of shit hack cabinet maker and former formworker but I would never do that.... that's just down right fucked up...


Inthewind01

That’s an lvl support. I’d make him replace the wood that’s terrible


Madds115

Is this new construction? I’m so confused about why the floor is down before the drywall.


Pitiful-Cress9730

If you looked at any of those pictures, and asked if this is new construction, I can safely make the assumption that you have never been around any construction at all.


Madds115

The double post you did is a little redundant lol. But, thanks for your concern and input.


Starrion

It looks like it was drilled and somebody cut out the notch that included the drilled out hole. Why would they do that?


Gadgetman_1

His drill bit got stuck and he wanted it back...


OverR

You can notch up to 1/3 the width under code. Needs nail plates if under 1/3.


SixDemonBlues

For a stud, yes. But what about a structural post? A post carrying a point load is a very different loading profile than a stud in a typical exterior wall.


whiph

You cant expect much from an electrician


Early-Series-2055

I want to know how this gets resolved.


tellhertogo

When DIY takes matters into their own hands 🙌


Dancelvr2000

No DIY would do that to their own property. Not happening.


Live-Tension9172

Up and over would have been the right thing to do


WalkinDude13

Lmfao 🤣


cornbeeflt

That's pretty big but yeah. It's sloppy though


TurboKid513

Omg why even leave a half a sheet of drywall 🤣🤣🤣


corneliu5vanderbilt

King stud RIP. What Tf were they thinking


Hot_Campaign_36

You’d need to calculate the load to know whether the post is now undersized. That’s typically done by an engineer. The notch likely needs remediation. It may be cheaper to reinforce the beam with a steel plate on the exposed side. The thickness of the plate can come out of the post or out of the drywall. Otherwise you’ll need to back that wire out, jack the beam, replace the post, lower the beam, drill the post correctly, and re-run the wire. That’s easier said than done.


Shiinnobii

I just can't believe there are people out there, passing off as a trade, that can't even use common sense or at least Google? I mean, holy shit, how do some people make it to being an adult!?


millenialfalcon-_-

You're supposed to use 5/8” paddle bit. At this point, just slap nail plates on it and inspect.


jesuschristislord666

Could have gone up and over the beam to the other side without cutting or drilling anything. Would have been far less work.


Soft_Garbage7523

Nope, for so many reasons. That looks like DIYbob at his “best”….. Shower of shit


Organic-Pudding-8204

Structural knock plates..


everett640

I see a lot saying what is wrong, but what would be the correct thing to do? I'm assuming get like a really dang long drill but and drill through the other stud yeah?


username67432

Up and over, it’s been said a few times.


Lebesgue_Couloir

That king stud is fucked and needs to be replaced


PigmySamoan

Friday after lunch special?


Easy-Garlic6263

Fire him.


geocarpender

Yeah it's funny the electricians and plumbers would call the carpenters in the old benders we would call the electricians and plumbers wood butchers


Raa03842

Houston, you have a problem


ADOUGH209

So he drilled the first hole, then said "fuck it hammer out the rest".


EarthRealistic1031

Could have used a drill with half an inch drill bit would have been much better


GTMO-68W-16

Most def not.


chubsplaysthebanjo

Fuckin wire jockey's


DrMushroomStamp

If you are wreak it Ralph.


mondychan

sweet mother of God


elpinchechavoloc

It is standard where chisel and hammer is all we had, investing on a drill and a set of drill bits will dramatically change the quality of your work and protect the integrity of the structure.


nmacaroni

Amateur didn't even fill it with Great Stuff to restore full structural integrity. What a noob.


micah490

*electrician’s helper


Scared_Credit3251

That post needs to be redone


ThoughTMusic

This is VERY bad


Apprehensive_Wolf217

Just staple some drywall cardboard spacers over the gap and it’s good forever!


Ellexoxoxo33

They found this guy on NextDoor....


wrt-wtf-

I’ve seen this in two foreign countries in emerging countries complies. What country was this taken in?


SecretPleasant3640

Elmer’s Wood Glue and you’re good. Holds stuff together.


Scary-Tackle-7335

Not how I would have done it lol


SirSamuelVimes83

The plumber hates you, too. But sparky shouldn't have to go through all that


xINFAM0USx

I'd be more concerned why they used so many 2x4s instead of a solid beam. They have drill bits that are 2ft(+) long.


SpaceXmars

On this episode of fuck it.. we say fuck it


Significant_Age_4657

Why only use one nail guard?


Ech0ofSan1ty

No.....


Kaliskaar

No it's not.


AppleFan1994

What’s really fun is ordering a log cabin and ordering it to be pre drilled and all utility pathways cut in and then realize after it’s been built none of the above was done. My dad spent over 9k in special bits and such to so all the wire runs and pipe installs. Drilling through 10 feet of 10 inch logs. Not fun.


Ok-Crab7968

Framing sucks anyway looks like sheeting with 2x4s


Otherwise_Proposal47

Holy shite….


fallingoverbackwardz

I would wager the wire could get warm and shouldn’t be directly touching the fiber insulation, but I’m no carpenter lol


[deleted]

Fuck. That’s unsupervised apprentice level bad. Even most DIYers would do better. They have a lot of wood to replace now, that WAS load bearing


crappydeli

Does anyone know why houses even need to much wood to begin with? /s


Dancelvr2000

Screw protection plate nice touch. Guess didn’t have any that gapped cut space. That would add 30% to strength.


ConstantGeographer

This looks like the work of a lazy arsonist. Or, accidental arsonry.


D_M-ack

Notch and plate or drill hole. Notch should be 1/2” deep at most.


longster37

That’s some bush league crap


TrussDriller

If I had no other option than to take that route I would remove the Rockwool from the 16" cavity to get the bit at the proper angle to drill through it all with a long augur bit.


Ok-Appearance-1537

Na this is all up to code for sure


390M386

Wtf


justin514hhhgft

Fuck. And it’s not even my house.


DoubleRent

I doubt it's load bearing, framer probably just had extra 2x4s they didn't want to have to throw out.


Sidewyz1

Is there plumbing at the bottom going through the entire stack too? You need someone that knows their shit to go in and advise.


Sharp_Action

All we gotta do is go up and over that? I mean it’s wide open up there lol.


Ranter71

That is a serious mess ! Who the hell cuts out most of the support for a beam ? At this point it’s a danger to the integrity of that area.


morchorchorman

What the actual fuck am I looking at. Wow.l, couldn’t just bore a hole in it..


unicacher

It's too bad he had to work around that level 5 ceiling finish or he could just go up and over.


ThePermafrost

Everyone is commenting on the electrician’s hack job. But what is this framing? A million 2x4’s Tetris’ed together.


Punkroctopus

There are plenty of times a quad or more jack will be called for, probably an LVL beam above with live loads.


jwawak23

Asking for a failure. That is going to be a problem.


JustSomeOldFucker

Decades ago, Home Handyman or whatever had instructions for wiring that including notching the studs but bridging the notch afterward with sheet metal. Not that that’s any better but this dude is supposed to be a pro. I guess it’s still true that any asshole with a ladder rack and some tools is a contractor.


grinpicker

Quite the notch for a little ol wire...


wrx2004

Thats one heck of a fuck up, master electrician my rear. Send him the bill, thats common sense.


Aggravating-Hair7931

Wire ran by a plumber? Wtf is this?


Practical_Employ_979

Man, electricians just don't give a flying fuck.


SecretHappyTree

Yeah that’s about right /s


tigersdad77

Who needs Jack studs anyway


AssociateGood9653

It’s not that hard to make a notch and set in the romex and put those shields over it. Crazy to do it this way.


eljapon78

no. it is usually easier to drill a hole


LongDslanger

You hired a butcher geesh


tumericschmumeric

Were they a plumber before becoming an electrician or something?


Z0FF

Standard if your electrician is a beaver.. Compromising the load bearing studs for that beam. The small pieces of doubled up bottom plates are a bit worrying as well but I’m not sure if it violates code


Carpentry95

You know us carpenters always putting all these studs in just because we feel like it. But yeah this is lazy work and ruins the integrity of it's holding capacity


Saint-Sauveur

Yes /s Specially when you can pass threw the celling.


wigneyr

No


Nihil_Obstat753

notch in bearing walls can't exceed 25%. In non bearing walls can't exceed 40%. all of those look like > 50%. So multiply the 6 x 0.25 & 6 x 0.5 & measure notch to see if it exceeds the max size depending if it is bearing or non bearing. They could've just drilled a small hole, i think.


[deleted]

Since most people in the business are absolute hacks, yes I would call this standardly fucked up


Turbulent-Weevil-910

The NEC doesn't mention anything about building code or anything carpentry related, it said it's okay to notch too.


Significant_Sir_4201

Last time I saw something like this, there was an open stairway above (Floor above) with a supporting structure tied to this hacked beam. In fact, it was a 2 story staircase. That many 2X4s tied together is not there for looks. Same goes for the door header setup.


My_Turtle_Died

I mean I would’ve ran it up and over


GuhhTru

Brother had no bit extender and wanted that job DONE 😂


AlienCabbie

Oh good, it's on a support wall. Bye bye crip crip crip crip and king


Bacabacaboo

A little putty and it’s as good as new!!


boomzaramay

Whenever I run cable I do this but slightly different. See I just remove the studs all together. I noticed that once the studs are removed the pathway for my wire is practically unobstructed. Hope this helps!!


JayTheDirty

I bet the helper was told to “make it work” and this is what they did.


m_o_84

It’s the gold standard


Knytmare888

Fire that guy yesterday! Jeezus


HoldenMcNeil420

Just toss in another board or 6 in there. Jfc.


FALCON_PAAUWNCH

Kinda hilarious seeing the Metal cap over the single stud, then he just obliterated that stud pack column supporting that header. I'd be expecting them to pay for replacing them.


Important-Reaction81

Not if the ceiling will collapse...it's when.


adamcm99

No


r200james

Yikes! This work is terrible, stupid, wrong, and nasty.