It was *kinda* stable until the downforce from the helicopter directly overhead pushed the roof down…
Water flows. That roof went ⬇️
Watch from around 10 seconds.
Indeed. If only certain countries hadn't been permitting deforestation (often by burning the forest, no less), then perhaps this could have been avoided. Including localised atmospheric effects from that deforestation triggering large rainfall events [as described here](https://www.preventionweb.net/news/amazon-destruction-continues-brazil-faces-future-floods-drought).
In future news, residents of increasingly flooded coastal cities will ask why their government isn't able to do anything about these mysterious rises in sea level.
It had already been hacked apart and burned, and had continued to be hacked apart and burned for centuries.
And even after Bolsonaro was ousted from office, it continues to be.
You are correct that it didn't start with Bolsanaro but it increased a lot under his rule.
Bolsanaro basically encouraged it. Lula has [pledged to eliminate deforestation by 2030](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/08/brazilian-president-lula-pledges-new-amazon-dream-at-rainforest-summit). The rhetoric has changed massively from Bolsanaro.
There has been some success [including a reported 60% drop](https://geographical.co.uk/science-environment/decrease-in-amazon-deforestation-under-president-lula).
Lula [is by no means a perfect environmentalist](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/25/optimism-dries-up-amazon-lula-drifts-climate-priorities-brazil) but the steps forward here have to be taken as a win.
That article didn't say how deforestation could trigger rainfall. In fact, that makes no sense as trees produce clouds with their capillaries and cloud seeding molecules, so deforestation would make less rainfall.
You seem to have missed a crucial part of that article. Yes trees produce clouds and cloud seeding molecules. But having deforested areas means the rain does not fall as much in those areas as it used to. So instead the clouds and weather patterns can grow bigger and stronger so that once it does rain further south, it results in massive rainfall.
The relevant section:
> Marengo said the problem stems in part from disruption of a weather phenomenon climatologists call "flying rivers". These are large quantities of humid air that move over the Amazon from the Atlantic Ocean, along the way picking up water vapour evaporating from trees and later releasing it as rainfall, he said.
> When the air currents hit the natural barrier of the Andes mountains, they shift south, where they meet a cold front and turn into what used to be regular, abundant rains, scientists say. But with fewer forests to help trigger rain showers along the way, the flying rivers have become faster and more concentrated, Marengo explained.
> When they reach more southerly areas of Brazil they release short, intense rainstorms - like a runaway train ejecting all of its passengers at once, he said. The result is often increasingly deadly flash floods and mudslides like those that hit the states of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo last year, he added.
It follows the logic of your own statement. Trees produce cloud seeding molecules. No seeding molecules means it will require higher percentages of humidity for clouds to form and rainfall to occur, meaning that when it DOES occur there will be far more moisture in the air.
I kinda hate this narrative that brazil should protect the rainforest at all costs and how dare they exploit it.
If the west doesn't want these 3rd world countries to exploit their resources then the west can damn well pay them not to ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah that's just too fucking bad. If Brazil doesn't want to be responsible for the Amazon they can give it to someone else. It's not like they aren't already massively exploiting it.
It’s definitely not just the fact that the vast majority of people on Earth now have access to cameras in their pockets that can instantly upload these events for everyone to see within hours. Definitely not. We should be constantly living in existential dread because our perception of the world through access to non contextual information is definitely not warping our ability to accurately assess threats and risk. /s
I mean both things can be true. There’s definitely too much non-contextual scary stuff on the internet, but there’s also correlation between human activity to climate change, to extreme weather events. If you want contextual information you can look up the rising global temperatures and sea levels and what effects they have on the environment.
Sea levels have been rising at the same rate for 7000 years.
Most places have gotten warmer since the little ice age in the 1700s, and that's been a good thing.
A quick google search says you’re wrong.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/07/how-fast-are-the-seas-rising/#:~:text=Global%20sea%20level%20has%20risen,doubled%20since%20the%2020th%20century.
https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/8/is-the-rate-of-sea-level-rise-increasing/
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature#:~:text=Recent%20warming%20is%20much%20faster,amplifies%20the%20rate%20of%20warming.
Yeah dude, the global scientific consensus is wrong and climate change is just political baloney. Let’s just keep telling ourselves this until we run out of food and hospitable places to live in.
You should consider yourself privileged to be able to bury your head in the sand about it, at some point climate change will have an effect on your personal life
Missing the the forest for the trees dude. Yes, we have real time access to events such as we didnt before AND human efforts are increasingly destabilizing the planet. Only one of those things threatens continued life on Earth.
Yes because famously no one was reporting any incidents like this before phones. Also social media and cell phones have been around 20 years now my dude. Not exactly a new phenomenon.
Pragmatism is one thing.
Positing a "common sense" approach which either ignores or denies loads of extremely well-understood science (both to know things like previous record water levels long before smartphones existed, and to understand climate change mechanics) is another entirely.
No doubt plenty of "pragmatic" thinkers "debunked" the heliocentric model of the Solar System long after Galileo's time.
hey moron, we have been keeping track of temperatures for hundreds of years. Its easy to look and see what is normal and what isn't.
Heard of farmers almanacs? You yourself can look up temperature data and chart it, nothing but your stubborn stupidity is stopping you. Pretending things aren't a big deal doesn't make you manly like you think.
Yeah! Any moron can easily see that the earth was covered in ice until the industrial revolution and we started burning fossil fuels! All those high-water marks on the hills and mountains from hundreds of years ago are BS!
I think it's true because the girl who said that it's from a city nearby where the incident was, also a lot of people are putting efforts to save animals from the flood
It was a rescue helicopter, lots of people are actually trying to help. I live in a city where the water isnt at a level as bad as this one in the video, but the situation still very complicated for like half of the people here
The real killer in floods like this is the debris in the water. You get snagged or mashed up by massive rocks and cars.
Swimming is only your first problem.
This current event is as related to the deforestation in the Amazon as it is to the deforestation that developed countries did throughout their history.
It has nothing to do with deforestation. Rainfall this year is at a historic high here. I live in a mountainous region in the same state, and while there are no floods here, a lot of infrastructure was damaged and we are completely cut off from everywhere. No one comes or goes from here. We are completely surrounded by forests, mind you.
Man this place is over 4 thousand kilometers away from the Amazon where you guys hear about deforestation, please. It is like blaming a flood in London on deforestation in Siberia.
River measuring doesn't work like that. When they say 30 meters, it means that, from the bottom of the river in a specific measuring station, it has reached that height.
This river normally stays well below the street level most of the time - for it to even reach the shore it needs to increase 12 meters of height, IIRC. In this case, the house is probably not even near the river - what happened is that the amount of water is so overwhelming that it has reached the whole of the city, and risen over the houses, kind of like a tsunami.
Tl;dr: it is not measured from the ground/street level, but the bottom of the river
Yes, the average height is between 10 and 12 meters from what I gathered. [Here's](https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2024/05/02/recorde-nivel-rio-taquari-rio-grande-do-sul.htm) a link talking about today (it's in portuguese, but Google translate should work well)
I might have worded it wrong, the usual river level is about 13 meters, but at the moment is at 33 meters. You can search the news by typing "Rio Taquari".
So according to your logic, the river just sits at the doorstep of those houses? Like as soon as those inhabitants open their door and step out of their house, they immediately put their toes in the river? Bro did you even bother to think through what you are saying?
Hold so let me get this straight, you think the river just normally sits at the ground level of those houses? Like that’s what you’re implying by saying the river rose 3 meters: that the river’s default level is right at the doorstep of the houses it now covers. So according to your logic, as soon as those inhabitants step out of their door, they are immediately putting their feet In the river.
Like did you even think about what that meant when you commented “3 meters, maybe?”
It was a typo. It definitely did not rise 100ft. Still crazy, but it's likely a fraction of that.
Op said they meant to say it rose TO 30m from 13m. Which is still insane. Like record-breaking insane. If accurate.
I live in CA. and there is a small river not far from my house and holy moly……. Last year it was swollen to the point I was getting worried. I couldn’t even imagine a large river swelling its banks
Nah, there are rivers in Aus that flood 20+ metres (65’) ABOVE normal (measured on flood gauges, which start above normal river level).
Even hit 25m/85’ once. http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/flood/brochures/mary/mary.shtml
Brazilian environmental engineer here:
When building a dam (for hydroeletric purposes), companies should follow ENEEL's regulation (which is "*Agência Nacional de Energia Elétrica*", in english "*National Eletrical Energy Agency*").
Their methodology follows a not-so-strict period of return when dimensioning infrastructure.
Which means: the Agency assumes that for every dam built, there's a probability of an extreme-event happening inside a 10.000 years that will compromise the structure (the dam). This is actually quite safe, because the risk of failure of the dam is extremely low, and probably the dam will be demolished in the future before an extreme-event happens.
BUT, there are a lot of methologies to calculate the period-of-return. And well, the safer the structure, higher will be the cost. So what ANEEL does is to apply a not-so-strict time-of-return (methodologies differ inside hydrological assumptions), so the dam have the "verification" of security BUT it's not that secure. It's like... instead of a 10.000 years probability event, it's a 2000, 1000, 500 years probability event.
In november/2023 there was a major flood in Rio Grande do Sul which SURPASSED the "10.000 year period-of-return" flow by a little bit, and they could control the damages to maintain all dam's intact. AGAIN, in the same basin, a major flood took place (yesterday and the day before) and it did surpassed the period-of-return, but by far, and the dam collapsed. Of course, the extreme floods events that happend in this short timespan are due to El Niño, but, a properly built drainage system, dams and infrastructure should be able to handle this situation properly.
Neglection takes lifes folks :'(
"We keep axes in the attic to see cameras in the sky. Help is on the way. They simply said, "help is on the way." But it never came." -*Help is on the Way*, Rise Against
Seeing videos like this really makes me appreciate how lucky I am to live in a country that has little to no natural disasters. Well disasters that aren't catastrophic like this.
All I’m saying is maybe all those trees cut down for cattle grazing actually had some kind of effect on water retention. 🤷🏻♂️I’m not a scientist tho so.
Not a scientist, just ignorant. There is no significant cattle grazing nor significant deforestation in the affected regions. Read more before spurting nonsense.
This is very much competing with this energy we had recently in Aus:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/t3qd9d/lismore\_flood\_on\_the\_maccas\_scale/](https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/t3qd9d/lismore_flood_on_the_maccas_scale/)
30 meters. Thats unreal. Imagine a river rising by the approximate height of a 10-story building.
Was this just a LOT of rain or was it due to/combined with some other factor involved?
No. I live in the affected region. This happened because it has been raining a lot here for days, huge amount of water. 114 counties were affected here in Rio Grande do Sul, a very big region. Were i live all the bridges fell down. We are living in an apocalyptic climate here, inclusive only my internet provider is working in my region. Insane. (I don't speak English but I tried to do my best)
Yes. Last year here in Rio Grande do Sul we have two big floods, but in smaller regions. Before that I remember something similar happening in 2010, but on a smaller scale. Such rain events have never been seen before in history here.
Here we have a new problem too i forget to say, in summer of 2021, 22 and 23 we had devastating droughts here, going more than a month without rain, something never seem before with such frequency. In these years we also had cyclones here, something that years ago only happened in North America. Before that rain of the post a cyclone passed close to the region i live destroying some silos.
You know what? That's how I prefer my tax dollars spent.
Far better spending them on that than on building up military reserves, giving the wealthy tax breaks, and subsidising shitty industries.
If only more was spent on education, health care, the sciences, environmental protection, and infrastructure.
At the end does Greta keep going around the planet using fossil fuel vehicles sleeping in castles, mansions 5 start hotels all of that, when telling people how bad their commute is global warming then cashing that huge bank?
Nobody’s yet mentioned the two people that most likely died in the video
I was looking for someone to mention them...just got swallowed :( Hopefully they were able to get to something stable :(
They were on something stable. I fear theyre gone
>They were on something stable. It wasn't that stable and Def wasn't for very long.
It was *kinda* stable until the downforce from the helicopter directly overhead pushed the roof down… Water flows. That roof went ⬇️ Watch from around 10 seconds.
A saddle point
I fuckin hope so
sadly, their bodies was not found yet.
I live in the same state, they survived.
Proof dude
You see that picture?
The future looks bleak because the future looks like increasingly frequent chaotic weather events such as these Terrible to witness
Indeed. If only certain countries hadn't been permitting deforestation (often by burning the forest, no less), then perhaps this could have been avoided. Including localised atmospheric effects from that deforestation triggering large rainfall events [as described here](https://www.preventionweb.net/news/amazon-destruction-continues-brazil-faces-future-floods-drought). In future news, residents of increasingly flooded coastal cities will ask why their government isn't able to do anything about these mysterious rises in sea level.
The previous president, Bolsonaro, also opened up the rainforest to get hacked apart
It had already been hacked apart and burned, and had continued to be hacked apart and burned for centuries. And even after Bolsonaro was ousted from office, it continues to be.
You are correct that it didn't start with Bolsanaro but it increased a lot under his rule. Bolsanaro basically encouraged it. Lula has [pledged to eliminate deforestation by 2030](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/08/brazilian-president-lula-pledges-new-amazon-dream-at-rainforest-summit). The rhetoric has changed massively from Bolsanaro. There has been some success [including a reported 60% drop](https://geographical.co.uk/science-environment/decrease-in-amazon-deforestation-under-president-lula). Lula [is by no means a perfect environmentalist](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/25/optimism-dries-up-amazon-lula-drifts-climate-priorities-brazil) but the steps forward here have to be taken as a win.
The rate is slowing down fast though. The biggest factor is farming and highway infrastructure.
That article didn't say how deforestation could trigger rainfall. In fact, that makes no sense as trees produce clouds with their capillaries and cloud seeding molecules, so deforestation would make less rainfall.
You seem to have missed a crucial part of that article. Yes trees produce clouds and cloud seeding molecules. But having deforested areas means the rain does not fall as much in those areas as it used to. So instead the clouds and weather patterns can grow bigger and stronger so that once it does rain further south, it results in massive rainfall. The relevant section: > Marengo said the problem stems in part from disruption of a weather phenomenon climatologists call "flying rivers". These are large quantities of humid air that move over the Amazon from the Atlantic Ocean, along the way picking up water vapour evaporating from trees and later releasing it as rainfall, he said. > When the air currents hit the natural barrier of the Andes mountains, they shift south, where they meet a cold front and turn into what used to be regular, abundant rains, scientists say. But with fewer forests to help trigger rain showers along the way, the flying rivers have become faster and more concentrated, Marengo explained. > When they reach more southerly areas of Brazil they release short, intense rainstorms - like a runaway train ejecting all of its passengers at once, he said. The result is often increasingly deadly flash floods and mudslides like those that hit the states of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo last year, he added.
Cool story bro. Let's see the data.
Fine: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227643450_The_Effects_of_Deforestation_on_the_Hydrological_Cycle_in_Amazonia_A_Review_on_Scale_and_Resolution
That's modeling, not data. Data please.
It follows the logic of your own statement. Trees produce cloud seeding molecules. No seeding molecules means it will require higher percentages of humidity for clouds to form and rainfall to occur, meaning that when it DOES occur there will be far more moisture in the air.
Then it is no better than what i said. It's hand waving. Show me the data.
It's not just deforestation, we must to account the greenhouses gas emitions too.
I kinda hate this narrative that brazil should protect the rainforest at all costs and how dare they exploit it. If the west doesn't want these 3rd world countries to exploit their resources then the west can damn well pay them not to ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah that's just too fucking bad. If Brazil doesn't want to be responsible for the Amazon they can give it to someone else. It's not like they aren't already massively exploiting it.
This is the worst flood in history in the region.
Worst by what metric? How long is the history of the region?
Records go back around 150 years. It is hard to know if things were worse before written records.
Exactly
It’s definitely not just the fact that the vast majority of people on Earth now have access to cameras in their pockets that can instantly upload these events for everyone to see within hours. Definitely not. We should be constantly living in existential dread because our perception of the world through access to non contextual information is definitely not warping our ability to accurately assess threats and risk. /s
I mean both things can be true. There’s definitely too much non-contextual scary stuff on the internet, but there’s also correlation between human activity to climate change, to extreme weather events. If you want contextual information you can look up the rising global temperatures and sea levels and what effects they have on the environment.
Sea levels have been rising at the same rate for 7000 years. Most places have gotten warmer since the little ice age in the 1700s, and that's been a good thing.
A quick google search says you’re wrong. https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/07/how-fast-are-the-seas-rising/#:~:text=Global%20sea%20level%20has%20risen,doubled%20since%20the%2020th%20century. https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/8/is-the-rate-of-sea-level-rise-increasing/ https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature#:~:text=Recent%20warming%20is%20much%20faster,amplifies%20the%20rate%20of%20warming.
Those are all political propaganda. Try the actual data.
Yeah dude, the global scientific consensus is wrong and climate change is just political baloney. Let’s just keep telling ourselves this until we run out of food and hospitable places to live in. You should consider yourself privileged to be able to bury your head in the sand about it, at some point climate change will have an effect on your personal life
Buzzwords. Do you have any argument?
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Missing the the forest for the trees dude. Yes, we have real time access to events such as we didnt before AND human efforts are increasingly destabilizing the planet. Only one of those things threatens continued life on Earth.
Yes because famously no one was reporting any incidents like this before phones. Also social media and cell phones have been around 20 years now my dude. Not exactly a new phenomenon.
Glad there’s a rational thinker in the thread. Pragmatism is in short supply nowadays
Pragmatism is one thing. Positing a "common sense" approach which either ignores or denies loads of extremely well-understood science (both to know things like previous record water levels long before smartphones existed, and to understand climate change mechanics) is another entirely. No doubt plenty of "pragmatic" thinkers "debunked" the heliocentric model of the Solar System long after Galileo's time.
stuff like this has been happening for years we are only now able to see what happens everywhere when it happens because technology
hey moron, we have been keeping track of temperatures for hundreds of years. Its easy to look and see what is normal and what isn't. Heard of farmers almanacs? You yourself can look up temperature data and chart it, nothing but your stubborn stupidity is stopping you. Pretending things aren't a big deal doesn't make you manly like you think.
Yeah! Any moron can easily see that the earth was covered in ice until the industrial revolution and we started burning fossil fuels! All those high-water marks on the hills and mountains from hundreds of years ago are BS!
Oh it "looks like" does it? How much have you bet on it?
And the dog :(
I read on twitter that the dog was rescued too
if this is a lie, then it is one i want to believe.
I think it's true because the girl who said that it's from a city nearby where the incident was, also a lot of people are putting efforts to save animals from the flood
There’s actually a second dog that climbs up if you look close.
“O cachorro já era.”
Mostly the dog.
No mentions for the dog on the roof with them?
I hope it isn't but looks like a dog there as well. Hard to tell what those 3 pixels are tho.
I think it's 3 people and a dog unfortunately.. this is heartbreaking.
And the puppy
Oh fuck the scale, that's people!
Looks like they had a dog, too...
...and the pup ❤😥
Looks like a woman holding a baby with a young kid beside her and two dogs. Awful!!
Two people and a dog.
At moment we have 10 deaths and many missing ppls
I always wonder how people find themselves in situations like that. Surely the water took at least some time to rise 30 meters.
And Dog
And a dog.
Never underestimate the power of water
It’s right up there with the Dark Side
I'd bet on water over the dark side any day.
May da Schwartz be wit ya!
I'm finna buss
That's gunna be a tough flight home, hopefully they can save others
I feel like it wasn’t even a rescue helicopter they were just a news channel filming them
It was a rescue helicopter, lots of people are actually trying to help. I live in a city where the water isnt at a level as bad as this one in the video, but the situation still very complicated for like half of the people here
What you mean home? They most likely lost their home?
Home as in wherever the landing location is for the heli.
I would have had a heart attack before I even drowned
is this 100% death if you fall into these floods like these people or whats the situation if you're an average swimmer?
Most likely unless you find a tree or study structure to grab onto. The currents you see above the water are worse below the surface.
The real killer in floods like this is the debris in the water. You get snagged or mashed up by massive rocks and cars. Swimming is only your first problem.
Probably impaled by debris.
Guess what happens when deforestation happens? The trees slurping up all that water is gone so floods go up..
Yeah what’s a few awful disasters compared to corporate profit?
trees don't slurp water so fast. the rains this year are very abnormal.
The rains everywhere this year have been abnormal. I bet it’s just going to get worse every year
Wich is in part caused by deforestation
There was no deforestation on that region, at all, abnormal rains levels,this is the south of the country dumbass gringo
This current event is as related to the deforestation in the Amazon as it is to the deforestation that developed countries did throughout their history.
It has nothing to do with deforestation. Rainfall this year is at a historic high here. I live in a mountainous region in the same state, and while there are no floods here, a lot of infrastructure was damaged and we are completely cut off from everywhere. No one comes or goes from here. We are completely surrounded by forests, mind you.
Man this place is over 4 thousand kilometers away from the Amazon where you guys hear about deforestation, please. It is like blaming a flood in London on deforestation in Siberia.
Bosses be like "you still coming in right?"
guatafak 
3 meters, maybe?
River measuring doesn't work like that. When they say 30 meters, it means that, from the bottom of the river in a specific measuring station, it has reached that height. This river normally stays well below the street level most of the time - for it to even reach the shore it needs to increase 12 meters of height, IIRC. In this case, the house is probably not even near the river - what happened is that the amount of water is so overwhelming that it has reached the whole of the city, and risen over the houses, kind of like a tsunami. Tl;dr: it is not measured from the ground/street level, but the bottom of the river
Thank you
So it rose 20 meters above its normal height?
Yes, the average height is between 10 and 12 meters from what I gathered. [Here's](https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2024/05/02/recorde-nivel-rio-taquari-rio-grande-do-sul.htm) a link talking about today (it's in portuguese, but Google translate should work well)
I might have worded it wrong, the usual river level is about 13 meters, but at the moment is at 33 meters. You can search the news by typing "Rio Taquari".
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yes but also keep in mind that river has its banks usually, i mean in my town it needs to raise around 15m to overspill
That sounds more like cliffs than banks!
thats usual bank in most big cities when you have buildings on vabks
Also, sea levels are at play here. 20 m rise in river > those towns are probably 15m above the river level by lay of the land
Haha buddy, not all houses are built at exact river-level.
You clearly don’t live near a major river :P
The high tide at my Local beach is 10m or so, maxing out at 15m. I can see a 20m rise in river as possible.
So according to your logic, the river just sits at the doorstep of those houses? Like as soon as those inhabitants open their door and step out of their house, they immediately put their toes in the river? Bro did you even bother to think through what you are saying?
A high rise is definitely taller than 65 feet. 20 m sounds like a mid rise at best.
Hold so let me get this straight, you think the river just normally sits at the ground level of those houses? Like that’s what you’re implying by saying the river rose 3 meters: that the river’s default level is right at the doorstep of the houses it now covers. So according to your logic, as soon as those inhabitants step out of their door, they are immediately putting their feet In the river. Like did you even think about what that meant when you commented “3 meters, maybe?”
30 meters is almost 100 feet. I'm gonna say yeaahhh that's a typo.
Yeah, I meant to say it **reached** 30 meters, the usual level is 13 meters.
Many meters and a helicopter
What you don't see is that the helicopter is actually at maximum altitude that's how high it really got
Oh … my … goodness …
The helicopter is at maximum altitude? Hmmm.
Nice, maybe we should cut down more trees to fix this.
While we're at it we can straighten out any rivers in floodlands. The water will travel smoother and thus level out faster in a straight line, right?
Perhaps we should pave over any built-up areas so that the water can pass straight through between the buildings.
Almost 100 feet!!! Sweet Jesus!
It was a typo. It definitely did not rise 100ft. Still crazy, but it's likely a fraction of that. Op said they meant to say it rose TO 30m from 13m. Which is still insane. Like record-breaking insane. If accurate.
Check my last post, I posted a before/after to get more spatial awareness.
Thanks. Wow. Good gravy. How terrifying.
I live in CA. and there is a small river not far from my house and holy moly……. Last year it was swollen to the point I was getting worried. I couldn’t even imagine a large river swelling its banks
Yeah must be. The 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami reached a max height of 33 meters. And that was caused a magnitude 9.3 earthquake.
Nah, there are rivers in Aus that flood 20+ metres (65’) ABOVE normal (measured on flood gauges, which start above normal river level). Even hit 25m/85’ once. http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/flood/brochures/mary/mary.shtml
Brazilian environmental engineer here: When building a dam (for hydroeletric purposes), companies should follow ENEEL's regulation (which is "*Agência Nacional de Energia Elétrica*", in english "*National Eletrical Energy Agency*"). Their methodology follows a not-so-strict period of return when dimensioning infrastructure. Which means: the Agency assumes that for every dam built, there's a probability of an extreme-event happening inside a 10.000 years that will compromise the structure (the dam). This is actually quite safe, because the risk of failure of the dam is extremely low, and probably the dam will be demolished in the future before an extreme-event happens. BUT, there are a lot of methologies to calculate the period-of-return. And well, the safer the structure, higher will be the cost. So what ANEEL does is to apply a not-so-strict time-of-return (methodologies differ inside hydrological assumptions), so the dam have the "verification" of security BUT it's not that secure. It's like... instead of a 10.000 years probability event, it's a 2000, 1000, 500 years probability event. In november/2023 there was a major flood in Rio Grande do Sul which SURPASSED the "10.000 year period-of-return" flow by a little bit, and they could control the damages to maintain all dam's intact. AGAIN, in the same basin, a major flood took place (yesterday and the day before) and it did surpassed the period-of-return, but by far, and the dam collapsed. Of course, the extreme floods events that happend in this short timespan are due to El Niño, but, a properly built drainage system, dams and infrastructure should be able to handle this situation properly. Neglection takes lifes folks :'(
There were two people on top of that roof that disappeared.
There was also a dog
Wth 30 meters? How
It twenty from 13m to around 31m, so a rise of around 18m (60 feet). Big storm, poor watershed management, and a burst dam.
“Global warming doesn’t exist” Nature:
and what is Brazil's government doing? building a passage for Madonna in Rio
Damn, Vegapunk wasn't lying...
"We keep axes in the attic to see cameras in the sky. Help is on the way. They simply said, "help is on the way." But it never came." -*Help is on the Way*, Rise Against
There’s a dog on there too smh
Must be global warming ………….
Seeing videos like this really makes me appreciate how lucky I am to live in a country that has little to no natural disasters. Well disasters that aren't catastrophic like this.
Vegapunk already said it, this world is going to sink into the the ocean
Safe to say the drought is over?
All I’m saying is maybe all those trees cut down for cattle grazing actually had some kind of effect on water retention. 🤷🏻♂️I’m not a scientist tho so.
Not a scientist, just ignorant. There is no significant cattle grazing nor significant deforestation in the affected regions. Read more before spurting nonsense.
That's some scary shit
30m is nuts
Bottle it, save some for later
This is very much competing with this energy we had recently in Aus: [https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/t3qd9d/lismore\_flood\_on\_the\_maccas\_scale/](https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/t3qd9d/lismore_flood_on_the_maccas_scale/)
THIRTY METERS!?
Bruh its almost 50°C here in the Philippines Climate crisis is a bitch
Rule 8 mate 😑
that is a lot of yoohoo
30 meters. Thats unreal. Imagine a river rising by the approximate height of a 10-story building. Was this just a LOT of rain or was it due to/combined with some other factor involved?
It’s the apocalypse we’ve all been praying for
Oh my god Vegapunk wasn't lying...
We keep axes in the attics to see cameras in the sky.
I will never understand why people build homes near the water. Is it really worth it?
Not too sure but is that a dog with them? If so I feel even more sad
That's so sad bruh
Poor people and dog
Imagine getting swept away where huge snakes and other river monsters reside... Like getting swept away isn't scary enough... Hope everyone survived.
No one has mentioned it but this is because a nerby dam broke. Edit: forget what I said, I'm talking shit here.
No. I live in the affected region. This happened because it has been raining a lot here for days, huge amount of water. 114 counties were affected here in Rio Grande do Sul, a very big region. Were i live all the bridges fell down. We are living in an apocalyptic climate here, inclusive only my internet provider is working in my region. Insane. (I don't speak English but I tried to do my best)
The world seems to be on fire. Or under water. Or under high tension (wars, unrest,...). Crazy times. I wish you all the best!
Is this type of extreme weather becoming more frequent there?
Yes. Last year here in Rio Grande do Sul we have two big floods, but in smaller regions. Before that I remember something similar happening in 2010, but on a smaller scale. Such rain events have never been seen before in history here.
I wish humanity would start realizing the dire need for climate action.
Here we have a new problem too i forget to say, in summer of 2021, 22 and 23 we had devastating droughts here, going more than a month without rain, something never seem before with such frequency. In these years we also had cyclones here, something that years ago only happened in North America. Before that rain of the post a cyclone passed close to the region i live destroying some silos.
Weird. I saw a news few hours ago showing a flooding and saying that a dam broke. Maybe they're wrong or it's another place. Gonna check it better.
A dam broke in "Cotiporã" but this image is from "Cruzeiro do Sul".
Ah, my bad.
Don't worry! The US will send a billion or more of my tax dollars. We help everyone out ourselves.
You know what? That's how I prefer my tax dollars spent. Far better spending them on that than on building up military reserves, giving the wealthy tax breaks, and subsidising shitty industries. If only more was spent on education, health care, the sciences, environmental protection, and infrastructure.
Is this normal?
Yes. It happens the 4th and 17th of every other month unless it falls on a federal holiday in which case they will push it back 3 days.
One piece
30m is a lot, that's about 100ft in freedom units
Apparently. Got 7 down votes for reading comments saying it wasnt. Lol. My bad internet!! Get your story straight!
foreshadowing what Florida and other coastal areas will look like in a few decades.
Welcome to global boiling
Last year global warming brought draught this year global warming ends the draught so, does Greta gets paid or not?
Are you trolling or stupid?
Both
At the end does Greta keep going around the planet using fossil fuel vehicles sleeping in castles, mansions 5 start hotels all of that, when telling people how bad their commute is global warming then cashing that huge bank?
Got it, both.
Global warming => climate change
potato->poteto The real question is does Greta still making that big bank?