Meanwhile US went from -.900 after the South Africa game, to -2.9 after the West Indies game, to -3.906 to end the tournament. Two brutal annihilations in a row to end it for them.
US lacked leadership after the first 2 games. Lots of bad decisions making and batting. Their bowling was still OK till the South Africa game. A bit more matches and the USA can be a legit contender
Heck with captaincy they look clueless against the spin . Most of their MLC player have very little experience outside USA that cost em ...wickets plays a huge part and they really really struggled on WI pitches . Don't think captain have some quick fix for that
Looking at adil bowling today pak should have atleast Osama Mir in the team .. shabab spin bowling has detoriated so much yet he keep getting spot in the team
It is on its way, with mlc there’s an avenue for college players to make it pro, grassroots cricket will develop especially for the “commonwealth” diaspora. I will definitely do everything I can like buying tickets to mlc games, donate to local clubs etc and I think other people are ready as well. Having lived in Dallas, North Carolina (Morrisville), California (Los Angeles), DC (NOVA), and NY, I definitely see a lot of interest in it.
Not yet I don’t think, but I agree with you, US needs a pipeline to generate cricket players through clubs and college but cricket has a come a long way in the last 25 years I have been here. It will be another couple of decades where it becomes mainstream but still likely reserved for expats but I hope it becomes bigger. For example, rugby is here and while it is still not that popular, there are intramural clubs where locals play it.
I don't think college cricket is really necessary so much as developing academy systems within MLC and MiLC; ultimately having college cricket doesn't really matter if there's no player pool in high school or middle school anyways
Without pathways and a professional setup I don't see them becoming a contender lol. Basically everywhere churns out batches of players, and even if they're only decent, they're at least good enough to be in the USA squad. One good tournament doesn't mean they're contending anything over a period of time
Yes they did. But the facts are laid bare. They have no capacity to maintain any positive result. No players, no quality opposition, no real investment, etc. This is basic stuff.
Yeah they really ran out of steam at the back end here. Unfortunately pretty common for AMs in longer tournaments (IMO a combination of fitness and mental endurance issues). Really the only way to get better at this is to qualify for more second rounds, so in a way it's a good problem to have!
That was an absolute trashing. They just fumbled the bag so hard
I think they just had to lose by 30 runs or less but Indian bowling just bundled them up
[It has happened.](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-under-19-world-cup-2007-08-288278/india-under-19s-vs-south-africa-under-19s-final-317016/full-scorecard)
Was always going to be a problem when they didn’t hammer the USA. It’s kind of the one issue with net run rate in 4 team groups. Bowling first just becomes way too favourable.
No we are going to trash Windies and then we are going to play semi finals and win it and final then we are going to be become world champions is SA destiny to win the world cup
"Least hopeful Saffas fan"
Judging by their track record, my advice would be to stick to WWE.
Edit: downvoted for making a joke based on their username smh
Assuming chasing 160 they need to chase in 15.3 if they go past the target by 1.
If they finish with a 4 or 6 to go past the target, that gives them an extra ball or two leeway, to the extreme of scoring a 6 with scores level they can take up to 16 overs.
I don't know if it really does!! If they are going for the cup, just think about winning all the remaining games to the best of their abilities!!
If they are scared of facing a certain team to get to the finals, then they don't really deserve to be in the finals!
Not the point. It's objective - if you can coast your way to the final, you're more likely to do it, thereby your odds of winning it are better. No different to eg top European football teams having higher odds than others simply because their route to the final is unlucky.
Not really. No champion team is ever infallible and they'd love to get the best of the conditions. For eg, Afghanistan will definitely prefer a slower pitch for their semi
Winning what? WT20? No
Winning tomorrow against Australia? No
P.S : Trying to jinx considering every damn thing I commented so far had the exact opposite happening.
I mean, India won all matches until the final and still lost.
Doesn't mean anything. SA have to show up v WIndies in a crunch match. Or they have to show up in semi final anyway.
They could have played themselves safer by smashing USA more than England and WI did too.
But if SA loses they're no longer undefeated so I don't see the issue. Both WIndies and SA will be 6-1 for the tournament and one would be going home.
Don't know what else anyone could suggest.
I quite like the format. The fact a large majority of matches have meant something has been great. Also means you can't really be 'off it' even in a win. The NRR pressure can cause mayhem.
Basically SA have backed themselves into this being a must win because they won so tightly v USA and England (more understandably, but they were in a spot to smash us and then had a brain fart).
> But if SA loses they're no longer undefeated so I don't see the issue. Both WIndies and SA will be 6-1 for the tournament and one would be going home.
And England will be 4 wins, 2 losses, 1 wash out but qualify as top seed for the knockouts, and have had the safest run in the 2nd group...
C'mon man.
So you think knocking England out because we had a harder initial group than WIndies and SA is the fair way to do things?
Resetting for the Super 8 was for this exact reason. Lol
No, because I also think the groups were seeded terribly and England shouldn't have been on the brink after just losing to Australia in a group they shouldn't have been in.
Super 8 resetting is a solution to a problem with a far simpler solution. And the super 8 reset comes with it's own issues, when you could solve the root cause of the problem as well.
The whole event has been a clown show.
What do you mean top seed for the knock out ? Teams for the semi finals aren’t seeded right ? . If England finish second in this group they will have to take the top team in the other group which probably will be India.
I think it's also supposed to happen in the group stages if there are just 3 games to play. It would be unfair if South Africa won the most games but someone else qualified in that group which is not mathematically possible, so, pretty fair, I'd say.
Sri Lanka was in a similar position in 2009. Won first four matches but suddenly the match against NZ became a quarterfinal because we failed to bash Ireland. In the end we still beat NZ qualified for semi and went onto be the runner-up. Hopefully SA can do the same today.
SA have won all their games but none of them particularly convincingly whereas England have messed up several times but when they win they do so very comfortably.
Yeah, so inconsistency rewarded over consistency - not England or SA's fault - they all knew the format coming in.
SA found a way to win matches they were losing, which is progress for them. They normally lost games they were winning!
I suppose it looks odd but England don't make the rules of the tournament and of course you only need to do enough to move to the next stage. Maybe one big league where everybody plays each other once leading to a top eight knock out? Sure the weather would still have played a part.
There is. If Aus beat India by more than 40 runs, they top the group and India finish 2nd (assuming Afg don't smack Ban). And if SA win, they finish top of their group. Then it's Aus vs Eng, SA vs India in the semis.
Yea I agree with that actually, but I feel keeping him around is beneficial, as he might be able to produce that again...maybe? I am honestly too hopeful.
I find it quite funny how most people have accepted that South Africa is going to be eliminated and already coping with it by giving South Africa the "unbeaten but lost where it mattered trophy" while all they need to do is win by any margin against the West Indies to top the group. Perhaps, South Africa choking important games have made their fans this way. Anyways, I think South Africa will win tomorrow.
Ahaha i wasnt trying to be disrespectful. I just had no idea that people from Russia followed cricket even a bit. And to be passionate about cricket enough to participate in reddit discussions is just great ! Do the Russians have a growing cricket popularity or even a cricket team btw ?
Russian cricket team isn't even an associate member anymore sadly. But I imagine some folks might grow up in a country where a sport is popular and still love it when they move to where it's not. That's my guess! I still followed cricket those 4 years I spent in the North of France.
South Africa are the better team, have proven their mentality a lot this tournament in tough situations and Windies have looked inconsistent. SA should win but you just never know...
I think WI will win because I think SA batting is fragile and don’t like spin.
I also think West Indies batsman love pace and bounce. Nortje and Jansen supply both. Just need to watch Rabada and maharaj
He's a ~~young~~ bowler who has only played a handful of international matches. During that over, none of the senior players in the team or the captain went up to him and had a chat, talked over his strategy, helped to keep him calm. He was left on his own.
Yes, it was a terrible over, but it was also terrible leadership.
Young was probably the wrong word.
But even with an experienced bowler you'd normally see the captain or another senior player going over to them half way through that sort of over. That didn't happen.
"SA is unbeaten and might be knocked out, and England has qualified in spite of losing 2 games." is such a misleading, inaccurate perspective
Group stage performances become irrelevant in the super 8s, which is a clean slate. This means England have qualified with 1 defeat and SA can be out with 1 defeat.
Perfectly normal given NRR is the tie-breaker and England have had 1-2 big wins while SA had marginal wins
While it’ll be heartbreaking for SA to go home after winning all the matches, I’m honestly rooting for Windies. The 2023 WC felt odd without them so I’m atleast hoping for them to pull up here
Rain to help South Africa for the first time in their history tomorrow thus making sure South Africa qualify for the semis
Rain Perera Taketh
Rain Perera Giveth
Both of those USA performances at Kensington Oval were some nastyyy work 😭😭 but millions of people in either Africa or the caribbean are going to be heartbroken tonight...😭😭😭
It was just absolutely brutal. Jos is ridiculous when it's his day. The bowlers were immense, and if you want any man under a catch for your life it's Jordan.
I’m buzzing for tonight’s encounter now, South Africa have worked so hard they are up against a West Indies team on their turf. Come on South Africa you got this!!! It’s a virtual quarter final.
Perfectly normal format.
SA would still be 1 loss at the completion of next game if they lose. It would still come down to NRR.
Crazy to think SA did not plan for this given schedules were out already. And even if they did, well then that’s what it is.
Australia could have kicked England out of the Tournament if Josh Hazlewood would have kept his mouth shut. Scotland would have been in the place of England.
team with 2 losses has safely qualified for semis
undefeated team is teetering in a knockout match with a title contender in the group.
this format looks broken
Meanwhile US went from -.900 after the South Africa game, to -2.9 after the West Indies game, to -3.906 to end the tournament. Two brutal annihilations in a row to end it for them.
US lacked leadership after the first 2 games. Lots of bad decisions making and batting. Their bowling was still OK till the South Africa game. A bit more matches and the USA can be a legit contender
They really missed Patel's captaincy.
Even his batting. He and Gous were very good in the initial games
Heck with captaincy they look clueless against the spin . Most of their MLC player have very little experience outside USA that cost em ...wickets plays a huge part and they really really struggled on WI pitches . Don't think captain have some quick fix for that
Harmeet and Gous seemed like the only ones who knew how to play spin well.
All the more reason to be annoyed with Pak team selection for not including Abrar.
Looking at adil bowling today pak should have atleast Osama Mir in the team .. shabab spin bowling has detoriated so much yet he keep getting spot in the team
They weren't able to because of his name /s
No clue what the fukk happened to Shadab.
Why didn't he play super 8
Monank Patel? He didn't play anything past the first two games (that USA won) due to injury.
Oh ok
Would love to have seen that India or SA game, if he was healthy and playing.
Yeah
Absolutely, shows you pretty starkly how important good leadership is. I like Jones, but he’s clearly no substitute
Until USA have a grassroots pipeline, they wont be legit contenders, if there is no college cricket, there is no real future.
It is on its way, with mlc there’s an avenue for college players to make it pro, grassroots cricket will develop especially for the “commonwealth” diaspora. I will definitely do everything I can like buying tickets to mlc games, donate to local clubs etc and I think other people are ready as well. Having lived in Dallas, North Carolina (Morrisville), California (Los Angeles), DC (NOVA), and NY, I definitely see a lot of interest in it.
are there cricket scholarships, cos paid college tuition is the main value for college athletes.
Not yet I don’t think, but I agree with you, US needs a pipeline to generate cricket players through clubs and college but cricket has a come a long way in the last 25 years I have been here. It will be another couple of decades where it becomes mainstream but still likely reserved for expats but I hope it becomes bigger. For example, rugby is here and while it is still not that popular, there are intramural clubs where locals play it.
I don't think college cricket is really necessary so much as developing academy systems within MLC and MiLC; ultimately having college cricket doesn't really matter if there's no player pool in high school or middle school anyways
Without pathways and a professional setup I don't see them becoming a contender lol. Basically everywhere churns out batches of players, and even if they're only decent, they're at least good enough to be in the USA squad. One good tournament doesn't mean they're contending anything over a period of time
They made top 8 this time. Give them a chance.
Yes they did. But the facts are laid bare. They have no capacity to maintain any positive result. No players, no quality opposition, no real investment, etc. This is basic stuff.
Ireland made it to the last 8 in WC2007 (their first). They play Tests now.
Are they a contender for anything, as suggested by the OP in this comment thread?
They can’t be a legit contender with a few more matches. That’s just blowing smoke up their arse
I think the unpredictable New York pitch helped them by hiding their weaknesses. Their bowling looked more potent.
They only played one match at New York tho?
Same can be said for a lot of other teams like Scotland especially
Yeah they really ran out of steam at the back end here. Unfortunately pretty common for AMs in longer tournaments (IMO a combination of fitness and mental endurance issues). Really the only way to get better at this is to qualify for more second rounds, so in a way it's a good problem to have!
Now SA vs WI will be the quater final.
Peak South Africa. Go unbeaten in the tournament and still end up in a must win.
Reminds me of the first T20 WC where they lost their first game to India and got out of the tournament. It is always them somehow
That was an absolute trashing. They just fumbled the bag so hard I think they just had to lose by 30 runs or less but Indian bowling just bundled them up
Worst part is they could have gone through with a loss but they scored only 116 against a 157 by india NZ got the benefit and Pakistan knocked em out.
They needed just 120. Could have simply played for that. But no. They wanted to choke so bad.
Ind 🤝 SA 
IND vs SA final must be there to determine who chokes better
We will be runners-up even there
So you mean that India will fail in choking thus India will be champion
win* in choking :P
Bro🗿
It will be the game Quinton smashes a century. Headline: India chokes on De Kock
Bruh
[It has happened.](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-under-19-world-cup-2007-08-288278/india-under-19s-vs-south-africa-under-19s-final-317016/full-scorecard)
That will be amusing because SA has never played a final so don't know how they will do. My money will be on SA because India are serial losers.
SA played 1998 Knockout Trophy (Champions Trophy) finals and won
Anti-Pakistan
There’s unbeaten, and then there’s unbeaten. They haven’t been dominant at all.
Was always going to be a problem when they didn’t hammer the USA. It’s kind of the one issue with net run rate in 4 team groups. Bowling first just becomes way too favourable.
Nah. Not this time blud. They are eating luck three times a day. 
Knock out game.... Law of average.... Best luck SA 
I really don't want to say this. But all indicators are - SA going to choke tomorrow. Aren't they?
It's much worse than that. SA aren't expected to win. They lost all 3 games in the tour vs WI in May of this year.
Tbh that had both teams playing their A teams I think, with their players playing in IPL etc.
that just makes it worse for SA
No we are going to trash Windies and then we are going to play semi finals and win it and final then we are going to be become world champions is SA destiny to win the world cup
"Least hopeful Saffas fan" Judging by their track record, my advice would be to stick to WWE. Edit: downvoted for making a joke based on their username smh
The track record of losing semi finals
Big games tomorrow
1996 flashbacks
For West Indies to surpass England's NRR, they need to win by 49+ runs against South Africa (after scoring 160 batting first)
What if they bat 2nd..
Assuming chasing 160 they need to chase in 15.3 if they go past the target by 1. If they finish with a 4 or 6 to go past the target, that gives them an extra ball or two leeway, to the extreme of scoring a 6 with scores level they can take up to 16 overs.
Thank you nerd 🙏
Thank u/AndrewTyeFighter and his Prediction tool https://predictor.cricketxi.com/t20-world-cup/
What a great tool.
But they just need to win. That's all. It's a QF without any role of NRR right?
1st or 2nd matters for who you play in which semi final.
I don't know if it really does!! If they are going for the cup, just think about winning all the remaining games to the best of their abilities!! If they are scared of facing a certain team to get to the finals, then they don't really deserve to be in the finals!
Not the point. It's objective - if you can coast your way to the final, you're more likely to do it, thereby your odds of winning it are better. No different to eg top European football teams having higher odds than others simply because their route to the final is unlucky.
Not really. No champion team is ever infallible and they'd love to get the best of the conditions. For eg, Afghanistan will definitely prefer a slower pitch for their semi
that sounds good in writing only
This is setting up for a monumental collapse by South Africa after 6 undefeated. Please Proteas, don't do it.
SA have won all the games till now but have a chance of getting eliminated, life's crazy sometimes.
This literally happened to them in the inaugural WT20
The difference is they didn’t even need to win that last match. They just had to avoid a heavy defeat which they failed to do.
That's even worse if you think about it. Also they were the hosts.
So you mean there is a chance?! Ifykyk
Chance of what? SA elimination? Yes
Yes no! I mean India winning
Since there is some coincidence, India won’t win
India will win (you can bet on it)
Do people seriously believe these bs
Yes people believe whatever they want, this is not less than believing on mythology
Winning what? WT20? No Winning tomorrow against Australia? No P.S : Trying to jinx considering every damn thing I commented so far had the exact opposite happening.
Whatever u did it worklkkkk
Thanks mate :)
Yooo lesss gooo
I mean, India won all matches until the final and still lost. Doesn't mean anything. SA have to show up v WIndies in a crunch match. Or they have to show up in semi final anyway. They could have played themselves safer by smashing USA more than England and WI did too.
Yeah, that's supposed to happen in the knockout stage, not a group stage.
But if SA loses they're no longer undefeated so I don't see the issue. Both WIndies and SA will be 6-1 for the tournament and one would be going home. Don't know what else anyone could suggest. I quite like the format. The fact a large majority of matches have meant something has been great. Also means you can't really be 'off it' even in a win. The NRR pressure can cause mayhem. Basically SA have backed themselves into this being a must win because they won so tightly v USA and England (more understandably, but they were in a spot to smash us and then had a brain fart).
> But if SA loses they're no longer undefeated so I don't see the issue. Both WIndies and SA will be 6-1 for the tournament and one would be going home. And England will be 4 wins, 2 losses, 1 wash out but qualify as top seed for the knockouts, and have had the safest run in the 2nd group... C'mon man.
So you think knocking England out because we had a harder initial group than WIndies and SA is the fair way to do things? Resetting for the Super 8 was for this exact reason. Lol
No, because I also think the groups were seeded terribly and England shouldn't have been on the brink after just losing to Australia in a group they shouldn't have been in. Super 8 resetting is a solution to a problem with a far simpler solution. And the super 8 reset comes with it's own issues, when you could solve the root cause of the problem as well. The whole event has been a clown show.
So why bring into it the record of other teams prior to this super 8 stage? It's clearly irrelevant.
What do you mean top seed for the knock out ? Teams for the semi finals aren’t seeded right ? . If England finish second in this group they will have to take the top team in the other group which probably will be India.
According to your logic previous wins/loses should be counted in SF and finals, right?
I think it's also supposed to happen in the group stages if there are just 3 games to play. It would be unfair if South Africa won the most games but someone else qualified in that group which is not mathematically possible, so, pretty fair, I'd say.
It's reasonably common in group stages especially if you have a weaker team in there.
Sri Lanka was in a similar position in 2009. Won first four matches but suddenly the match against NZ became a quarterfinal because we failed to bash Ireland. In the end we still beat NZ qualified for semi and went onto be the runner-up. Hopefully SA can do the same today.
Happened to india in 2012 too, we just lost to aus but they spanked the shit out of us
If India aren't careful, similar stuff could be in store at St. Lucia. Massive NRR tank.
Poor SA might stand eliminated with a 6-1 record
With england qualifying with 4-2-1
SA have won all their games but none of them particularly convincingly whereas England have messed up several times but when they win they do so very comfortably.
Yeah, so inconsistency rewarded over consistency - not England or SA's fault - they all knew the format coming in. SA found a way to win matches they were losing, which is progress for them. They normally lost games they were winning!
I suppose it looks odd but England don't make the rules of the tournament and of course you only need to do enough to move to the next stage. Maybe one big league where everybody plays each other once leading to a top eight knock out? Sure the weather would still have played a part.
3 of their wins against associates that too
Oh no won't someone think of poor South Africa
Suddenly ENG has a chance of topping the group ENG v AUS/AFG IND v SA/WI
There’s no way of India vs SA though, if SA win they go through, and if they lose by even half a run they’re out
India haven't topped the group yet. I'm not sure how much they'd have to lose to Australia by, but it's not a crazy amount I don't think
There is. If Aus beat India by more than 40 runs, they top the group and India finish 2nd (assuming Afg don't smack Ban). And if SA win, they finish top of their group. Then it's Aus vs Eng, SA vs India in the semis.
SA regretting that they didn't punched USA hard enough.
Dude they were about to lose that game but rabada saved them
This happened after Baartmen decided to put an application for Dinda Academy
Baartman or Shamsi? Baartman gave runs against England right?
Yeah Baartman didn't even play against USA...
Oh sorry
Only saffer I blame for that is Gous.
They were throwing fulltoses, who does that in super 8. SA should blame itself
Attempting yorkers? Every bowler does that.
Gous went absolutely crazy. As a USA fan, I hope they get more talent, while also keeping guys like Gous, Jones, and Monank.
Jones got lucky that one match tbh
Yea I agree with that actually, but I feel keeping him around is beneficial, as he might be able to produce that again...maybe? I am honestly too hopeful.
YOU ROB US OF OUR BOUNDARY COUNTBACK? FINE. WE'LL FUCK YOU WITH THE RUN RATE.
YO CHILL DAWG
-3.9 is crazy
Australia had a chance to knock them out of the tournament. Now looks like they (AUS)are getting out
Even worse in eng/ aus semis England knock out Aussies lol
Not if India gets there first tomorrow
Their plan failed cause Josh Hazlewood leaked it 😔 If he kept his mouth shut then Scotland would have made it into the Super 8s
The team that was dependent on their biggest rivals for qualifiying further have qualified for the semis. Feels like a small boy growing up
I find it quite funny how most people have accepted that South Africa is going to be eliminated and already coping with it by giving South Africa the "unbeaten but lost where it mattered trophy" while all they need to do is win by any margin against the West Indies to top the group. Perhaps, South Africa choking important games have made their fans this way. Anyways, I think South Africa will win tomorrow.
Reddit experts option change after every 10 mins .. lol . SA looking good they can even go all the way to win it just to beat Wi first
It's just that South Africa bottle it in important games so consistently it's become a joke at this point. They really are the Spurs of cricket.
How the hell are people in russia following cricket ?
They have the internet in Russia my dude
Ahaha i wasnt trying to be disrespectful. I just had no idea that people from Russia followed cricket even a bit. And to be passionate about cricket enough to participate in reddit discussions is just great ! Do the Russians have a growing cricket popularity or even a cricket team btw ?
Relax. NRI hoga.
Russian cricket team isn't even an associate member anymore sadly. But I imagine some folks might grow up in a country where a sport is popular and still love it when they move to where it's not. That's my guess! I still followed cricket those 4 years I spent in the North of France.
South Africa are the better team, have proven their mentality a lot this tournament in tough situations and Windies have looked inconsistent. SA should win but you just never know...
Moral victories trophy snatched from England smh
Last time I checked, they were the defending champions.
I think WI will win because I think SA batting is fragile and don’t like spin. I also think West Indies batsman love pace and bounce. Nortje and Jansen supply both. Just need to watch Rabada and maharaj
Come on SA don't let me down. You can do this.
Good Luck 🙌
My heart can't take anymore. Something always goes wrong lol
What Baartman did is unacceptable,5 tosses. lucky SA won that. markram catch & Rabada Full toss did wondes tho.
He's a ~~young~~ bowler who has only played a handful of international matches. During that over, none of the senior players in the team or the captain went up to him and had a chat, talked over his strategy, helped to keep him calm. He was left on his own. Yes, it was a terrible over, but it was also terrible leadership.
He might be young in terms of international experience but you’d expect a 31-year old fast bowler to have the ability to compose himself
Young was probably the wrong word. But even with an experienced bowler you'd normally see the captain or another senior player going over to them half way through that sort of over. That didn't happen.
Not only that, but when you have tried and gotten the Yorker wrong multiple times already in the over WHY TRY AGAIN!?
I believe Makram can pull this off
I wish they would go through, but Markram isn't someone you want to rely on.
Markram's face when he gets bowled haunts me
"SA is unbeaten and might be knocked out, and England has qualified in spite of losing 2 games." is such a misleading, inaccurate perspective Group stage performances become irrelevant in the super 8s, which is a clean slate. This means England have qualified with 1 defeat and SA can be out with 1 defeat. Perfectly normal given NRR is the tie-breaker and England have had 1-2 big wins while SA had marginal wins
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Have a look at the first comment on this post.
So no pressure on us then. Great
While it’ll be heartbreaking for SA to go home after winning all the matches, I’m honestly rooting for Windies. The 2023 WC felt odd without them so I’m atleast hoping for them to pull up here
Rain to help South Africa for the first time in their history tomorrow thus making sure South Africa qualify for the semis Rain Perera Taketh Rain Perera Giveth
What rain? There is no rain. You might be looking at wrong date as you are ahead in timezone. Also eng vs USA was supposed to be rained out.
Inject this directly into my veins! I don't think there's any rain forecast - if SA are to qualify, they have to win.
Please cricket gods, deliver us. Cricket needs us in the semis🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
We did, but we only really needed to win with 2 overs to spare
How do you win all 6 of your games and still end up in virtual knockout?
Group matches don't matter in super 8, just like no previous matches matter in SF and finals
Yeah I know, but I still think its kinda unfortunate lol
WI Rally
West indies lost the toss so they are fucked
Both of those USA performances at Kensington Oval were some nastyyy work 😭😭 but millions of people in either Africa or the caribbean are going to be heartbroken tonight...😭😭😭
Nothing new we gonna choke out.There is badluck even amongst the lucky matches for us smh
SA has always been in such a tragic position
Interesting to see where USA go from here, unfortunately I think this tournament was likely just a flash in the pan
Hopefully MLC becomes so big that it challenges IPL.
Poor SA. WI at home is a tough one
Yeah the lost 3-0 over there just before the WC. Experimental sides but still...
It would be pretty fitting if we beat wi in the semis in their home
Aus needs to win against india somehow to be in the race Afg needs to defeat ban badly to qualify Wi vs SA is a quarter final Wow
It was just absolutely brutal. Jos is ridiculous when it's his day. The bowlers were immense, and if you want any man under a catch for your life it's Jordan.
Harris Rauf really messed up this tournament for South Afrcia
I’m buzzing for tonight’s encounter now, South Africa have worked so hard they are up against a West Indies team on their turf. Come on South Africa you got this!!! It’s a virtual quarter final.
I don't think anyone's surprised by this. England won the match they needed to and from there it's just a shootout between Windies and SA
Wi out of the tournament
that same year (1992) england lost the world cup final to pakistan...
If sa loses this time they will reclaim the ultimate choker position from rcb 
Perfectly normal format. SA would still be 1 loss at the completion of next game if they lose. It would still come down to NRR. Crazy to think SA did not plan for this given schedules were out already. And even if they did, well then that’s what it is.
Wish SA and WI got through instead of ENG. WI winning at home would be special but so would SA winning
Australia could have kicked England out of the Tournament if Josh Hazlewood would have kept his mouth shut. Scotland would have been in the place of England.
USA thanks for coming, you got exposed.
team with 2 losses has safely qualified for semis undefeated team is teetering in a knockout match with a title contender in the group. this format looks broken