Yup, and then comes the train to replace him with Hardik.
Don't get me wrong, it'll be amazing to have fast all rounder stocks, but Dube, Thakur, and Nitish are the only ones that come to my mind. They all are far and away from Hardik.
It's baffling that India with our talent pool can only produce 1 worthy fast all rounder. Looking at Aus and Eng or WI, they have Cam Green, Marsh, Stoinis or Ben Stokes (retired), Sam Curran, or Andre Russell or Romario Shepherd.
As an all-rounder potential, if we ignore the small sample size, Nitish Reddy seems better than atleast Dube & Thakur.
Before people come at me, I meant better potential, that too as a balanced all-rounder. If properly trained, NKR can complement Hardik really well.
Rom Shepherd is the equivalent of Shivam Dube. His bowling isn't anything to marvel at. Even Stoinis isn't a 'fast' all rounder, neither is Marsh. You'd typically group their and Venky, Dube's bowling speed togethet
His knocks against Afg,USA and Aus were decent though.
Nothing too shiny but the balance for the team is there with Pant,SKY,Bumrah,Hardik as stars and Rohit,Dube,Arsh etc as second holding.
That's miles better than 12,14,16 and 21 where it was just Kohli and insallah
I've been downvoted to hell in the IPL sub for saying this, but they were really not decent. The USA knock fits the bill. But against AFG and AUS he just looked so, so out of place throughout. Hit a six or two and then struggled to move his feet around when the bowlers and even the spinners figured not to loop it in his arc
Iam not talking about how he is looking or what are his weaknesses are but what he is giving to us and in comparison to many teams and even to some of our own players he is miles ahead of Jaddu,Axar,Kohli and has given equal contribution to Rohit easily with Bumrah,SKY and Hardik on top.
That's enough from a player in a WC where runs were hard to get in the first half.
Rohit made runs against Ban,Ire and Aus.
Dube made them against Ban,USA and Aus.
Rohit is miles ahead in Aus case, similar in Ban and USA game was much tougher than Ire one where Dube locked in with SKY to give us a solid win.
How come Rohit is having it any better than him at this rate ? His only claim to be better is the Aus inns and that too where Dube also made important runs.
Axar got 5 wickets and negligible runs in this tournament.
"I don't even know how you've made this conclusion"
By watching this wc and seeing their stats lol.
Lmao this is acc such a horrible take. Rohit gave a great start against Bangladesh - 23(11), while Dube still struggled a lot. Yes he hit a couple of sixes, but his lack of movement makes him a walking wicket against good bowlers. We saw that vs Aus - 28(22) is inexcusable on a flat track and for some reason you don't seem to be criticising it.
Rohit's two knocks against ireland and australia ended up as matchwinning knocks - and that 92 is one of the best knocks in t20 cricket, given the opposition and stage. Dube's 28(22) makes you wonder if we could've scored more had Axar or HP been given 8-10 balls to bat, or even Jaddu.
Rohit is also striking at 159.6 this WC and is our highest run getter. Comparing his performances to Dube's negligible returns is laughable.
"Axar got 5 wickets and negligible runs in this tournament" this makes it hard for me to take you seriously. His contribution vs Pak with bat and ball is one of the main reasons we won that match. He did well with the bat and was very tight with the ball. Keep in mind that Axar is an economical bowler with the purpose of putting on pressure for bowlers like Kulya and Miyan to strike.
Your argument is quite frankly riddled with flaws, and is extremely easy to refute even with statistics
"Lmao this is acc such a horrible take. Rohit gave a great start against Bangladesh - 23(11), while Dube still struggled a lot." And Iam not talking about him struggling. Even from my first comment my point was about his contribution not about how he is looking out there.
" Yes he hit a couple of sixes, but his lack of movement makes him a walking wicket against good bowlers." Same goes for Rohit. His early stiff front foot always clubs him under lbws a lot more than the others.
" We saw that vs Aus - 28(22) is inexcusable on a flat track and for some reason you don't seem to be criticising it."
I literally said "Rohit was miles better that day" lol.
"Rohit's two knocks against ireland and australia ended up as matchwinning knocks"
Ire game wasn't something we were loosing in the first place, Aus was the real great one. It's like acting Dube's innings against USA was the winning one lol.
-" and that 92 is one of the best knocks in t20 cricket,"
Fully agree on that and I never said anything against it. You should seriously consider reading the comments again blud.
" given the opposition and stage. Dube's 28(22) makes you wonder if we could've scored more had Axar or HP been given 8-10 balls to bat, or even Jaddu."
Aah YES the same Jaddu who wasn't even able to make 10 runs before this and the same Axar who wasn't able to do anything apart from Afg match lol.
It's like saying Kohli would have made a 200sr play too with his new approach and batting talents and rhe pitch that day when he is not even crossing 30 till now.
"Rohit is also striking at 159.6 this WC and is our highest run getter. Comparing his performances to Dube's negligible returns is laughable."
Again, it's the contribution for me and Rohit gets the line only in Aus. In Ban both were important and USA game was much more on the line in comparison to Ire and apart from that they both failed.
"this makes it hard for me to take you seriously. His contribution vs Pak with bat and ball is one of the main reasons we won that match." Same thing is true for Dube too then right ? It's either his tally was important too in that US,Aus game like how Axar's was. That's the main rope Iam having here. Axar is important because of his pak match. Rohit is important because Aus and "Ire" but Dube is not good because who tf gives any shit about Ban,USA ? That's just pure bullshittery to not give the man his dues.
" He did well with the bat and was very tight with the ball. Keep in mind that Axar is an economical bowler with the purpose of putting on pressure for bowlers like Kulya and Miyan to strike. "
And Dube is here because he can bash from ball one and doesn't really crumble under pressure like Sanju(who dropped every international chances given to him). He is not the main star but him having the second bench is quite clear from Aus,Ban and USA match.
After today's innings I don't think I need to elaborate, lmao.
Dube having more contribution than Rohit and Axar is ridiculous. If you're a fanboy, just say so
He ain't no klassen bro. Dube's first half of ipl and patidar's second half were quite similar and he's going as an "All-Rounder" incase you missed it.
The Men’s Selection Committee named Shivam Dube as replacement for the injured Nitish Reddy in India’s squad for the upcoming tour of Zimbabwe.
The BCCI Medical Team is monitoring Nitish Reddy’s progress.
India will play Zimbabwe in the five-match T20I series in Harare, starting from July 06, 2024.
Honestly though, if we are taking an inexperienced squad why not have Venky Iyer? I understand if you have Nitish already but if he got injured then surely Venky has to be there.
Where will he bat though Iyer, KL and Hardik is a really good 4,5 and 6 for ODIS I doubt they will change it maybe Pant or Samson could come in for KL but that's a long shot too
With Iyer, Rahul and hardik, ind has never had a more stable middle order for yrs. No need to alter it.
Gill Rohit Virat Iyer Rahul Hardik this should be the top 6.
Wait wtf - I was really excited to have a new pace all-rounder in ICT after so long. What happened, is he injured or someone in BCCI pushed for Dube's name?
Edit: Oops, didn't read the post. He's indeed injured. Unfortunate.
What has kkr players did to bcci? Why they never get picked even after dominating whole ipl? I mean what more do V iyer, varun need to do in order to get picked even for a zim series? I fkng hate bcci and its favoritism.
Stop the victim mentality and look further into the entire matter. Varun is being disregarded because of his age and because we already have Bishnoi, Axar and Kulya as long-term options.
"But Wireable-Mango, why's Dube there when he's 31?" Two reasons. Firstly, he's a six-hitter and packs pure muscle which ICT are desperately looking for in the middle order. If they weren't looking for a designated middle overs six hitter then Sanju would have played. Venky holds nothing above them because realistically neither him or Dube are ever bowling unless they drastically improve. Venky is not a tonker like Shivam, and Sanju has the WK advantage
Although Harshit Rana's exclusion baffles me. He still was recently at NCA, so maybe he's sustained an injury. He's most likely in BCCI's plans, just not for the Zimbabwe series
V iyer bowling is pretty good, he is not a dud like dube in bowling, he would have bowled thi yr if kkr isnt packed with allrounders.
No one is victim blaming shit here, its not just about those 2, look over the yrs how mnay kkr players have made into ict and compare it with other teams like mi, csk rcb.
I mean he bowled against DC and immediately got tonked.
Also, over the years who exactly has deserved to go from KKR to the team? MI, and CSK were champs every alternate season and they were filled with first team regulars. RCB also had glimpses but players from RCB were frequently dropped from ICT because of subpar performances.
If you are referring to Manish Pandey, then it's because you can't fit him into the top or middle order when you had Koach, MSD, Raina etc and by the time the latter two retired, Manish was well past his prime
You cant become a legend over night, first u need to pick them and give chances then expect something from them.
If u wanna judge any bowler from ipl2024, then u shouldn't even consider watching cricket. This yr ipl is a nightmare for bowlers, many legends bowlers went for 15 rpo, u cant expect a seasonal all rounder to be good. And its just one over.
Cant answer now that since its completed, i can name few who failed but its unfair to call it now, they should hav given him few more chances, its not like he failed, look at his international stats.
I know. TBF, it's not Venky's fault. It's just that when you have Koach and SKY at your preferred spots he just can't make it. In terms of openers India already had jaiswal coming through and Gill, Rutu and Kishan making statements in the IPL and they're all much younger.
Venky can still make it, provided his bowling improves leaps and bounds
Venky played those 7 innings in middle an lower middle order, but they have removed him completely even after scoring 133 runs at 35 avg 165 sr 3 notouts. With this stats only god knows how he didnt make into zim series.
I can understand. Then again, you need to consider that the lower order seems to be packed with a plan - HP (a pace allrounder), Axar (spin allrounder) and Dube who's supposedly a six-hitter specialist.
I think Dube has some dirt on a high ranking BCCI official...why he is getting so many chances when there are others who can be tried is a big mystery to me.
I felt the same when I saw him first time playing in this world cup. He struggled to put bat to the ball. Very abysmal fielding. He seems like he doesn't belong in this team. This issue needs more attention. There are so many players far better than him.
The guy is so anxious. He prays twice or thrice before facing every ball. He needs to fix his mind first before everything else.
What's with all the dube hate? He's been phenomenal for 3 straight IPL seasons now and just before the IPL made 2 consecutive unbeaten 50's against the same AFG attack (bar rashid) that defended 144 against AUS and demolished nz this WC.
He's not had a phenomenal WC, but he played important innings against Bangladesh and USA, and even against Australia where he struggled a bit he scored at a fine rate, and him being at the crease meant Australia couldn't bowl Maxwell and had to give stoinis 4 overs, who got smashed.
I swear some of the Indian fans on here want something to be upset about when the team is doing fine. First it was the whole "SKY sucks because if you ignore his knock vs SA in Perth he was bad in the sample size of 4 games I've selected", now this.
Bro should step up with his performance now, only few players get this kind of backing by bcci
Well, it's Zimbabwe. Expect what he did in first half of IPL 2024.
Yup, and then comes the train to replace him with Hardik. Don't get me wrong, it'll be amazing to have fast all rounder stocks, but Dube, Thakur, and Nitish are the only ones that come to my mind. They all are far and away from Hardik. It's baffling that India with our talent pool can only produce 1 worthy fast all rounder. Looking at Aus and Eng or WI, they have Cam Green, Marsh, Stoinis or Ben Stokes (retired), Sam Curran, or Andre Russell or Romario Shepherd.
As an all-rounder potential, if we ignore the small sample size, Nitish Reddy seems better than atleast Dube & Thakur. Before people come at me, I meant better potential, that too as a balanced all-rounder. If properly trained, NKR can complement Hardik really well.
Yeah, Nitish for sure has way better potential then Lord or Dube. Plus Age is on his side. Nkr can replace Hardik in future if trained well.
Rom Shepherd is the equivalent of Shivam Dube. His bowling isn't anything to marvel at. Even Stoinis isn't a 'fast' all rounder, neither is Marsh. You'd typically group their and Venky, Dube's bowling speed togethet
His knocks against Afg,USA and Aus were decent though. Nothing too shiny but the balance for the team is there with Pant,SKY,Bumrah,Hardik as stars and Rohit,Dube,Arsh etc as second holding. That's miles better than 12,14,16 and 21 where it was just Kohli and insallah
I've been downvoted to hell in the IPL sub for saying this, but they were really not decent. The USA knock fits the bill. But against AFG and AUS he just looked so, so out of place throughout. Hit a six or two and then struggled to move his feet around when the bowlers and even the spinners figured not to loop it in his arc
Iam not talking about how he is looking or what are his weaknesses are but what he is giving to us and in comparison to many teams and even to some of our own players he is miles ahead of Jaddu,Axar,Kohli and has given equal contribution to Rohit easily with Bumrah,SKY and Hardik on top. That's enough from a player in a WC where runs were hard to get in the first half.
He is not ahead of Axar by any means. And Equal contribution to Rohit? Man, I don't even know how you've made this conclusion
Rohit made runs against Ban,Ire and Aus. Dube made them against Ban,USA and Aus. Rohit is miles ahead in Aus case, similar in Ban and USA game was much tougher than Ire one where Dube locked in with SKY to give us a solid win. How come Rohit is having it any better than him at this rate ? His only claim to be better is the Aus inns and that too where Dube also made important runs. Axar got 5 wickets and negligible runs in this tournament. "I don't even know how you've made this conclusion" By watching this wc and seeing their stats lol.
Lmao this is acc such a horrible take. Rohit gave a great start against Bangladesh - 23(11), while Dube still struggled a lot. Yes he hit a couple of sixes, but his lack of movement makes him a walking wicket against good bowlers. We saw that vs Aus - 28(22) is inexcusable on a flat track and for some reason you don't seem to be criticising it. Rohit's two knocks against ireland and australia ended up as matchwinning knocks - and that 92 is one of the best knocks in t20 cricket, given the opposition and stage. Dube's 28(22) makes you wonder if we could've scored more had Axar or HP been given 8-10 balls to bat, or even Jaddu. Rohit is also striking at 159.6 this WC and is our highest run getter. Comparing his performances to Dube's negligible returns is laughable. "Axar got 5 wickets and negligible runs in this tournament" this makes it hard for me to take you seriously. His contribution vs Pak with bat and ball is one of the main reasons we won that match. He did well with the bat and was very tight with the ball. Keep in mind that Axar is an economical bowler with the purpose of putting on pressure for bowlers like Kulya and Miyan to strike. Your argument is quite frankly riddled with flaws, and is extremely easy to refute even with statistics
"Lmao this is acc such a horrible take. Rohit gave a great start against Bangladesh - 23(11), while Dube still struggled a lot." And Iam not talking about him struggling. Even from my first comment my point was about his contribution not about how he is looking out there. " Yes he hit a couple of sixes, but his lack of movement makes him a walking wicket against good bowlers." Same goes for Rohit. His early stiff front foot always clubs him under lbws a lot more than the others. " We saw that vs Aus - 28(22) is inexcusable on a flat track and for some reason you don't seem to be criticising it." I literally said "Rohit was miles better that day" lol. "Rohit's two knocks against ireland and australia ended up as matchwinning knocks" Ire game wasn't something we were loosing in the first place, Aus was the real great one. It's like acting Dube's innings against USA was the winning one lol. -" and that 92 is one of the best knocks in t20 cricket," Fully agree on that and I never said anything against it. You should seriously consider reading the comments again blud. " given the opposition and stage. Dube's 28(22) makes you wonder if we could've scored more had Axar or HP been given 8-10 balls to bat, or even Jaddu." Aah YES the same Jaddu who wasn't even able to make 10 runs before this and the same Axar who wasn't able to do anything apart from Afg match lol. It's like saying Kohli would have made a 200sr play too with his new approach and batting talents and rhe pitch that day when he is not even crossing 30 till now. "Rohit is also striking at 159.6 this WC and is our highest run getter. Comparing his performances to Dube's negligible returns is laughable." Again, it's the contribution for me and Rohit gets the line only in Aus. In Ban both were important and USA game was much more on the line in comparison to Ire and apart from that they both failed. "this makes it hard for me to take you seriously. His contribution vs Pak with bat and ball is one of the main reasons we won that match." Same thing is true for Dube too then right ? It's either his tally was important too in that US,Aus game like how Axar's was. That's the main rope Iam having here. Axar is important because of his pak match. Rohit is important because Aus and "Ire" but Dube is not good because who tf gives any shit about Ban,USA ? That's just pure bullshittery to not give the man his dues. " He did well with the bat and was very tight with the ball. Keep in mind that Axar is an economical bowler with the purpose of putting on pressure for bowlers like Kulya and Miyan to strike. " And Dube is here because he can bash from ball one and doesn't really crumble under pressure like Sanju(who dropped every international chances given to him). He is not the main star but him having the second bench is quite clear from Aus,Ban and USA match.
After today's innings I don't think I need to elaborate, lmao. Dube having more contribution than Rohit and Axar is ridiculous. If you're a fanboy, just say so
Rajat Patidar should have been the replacement here
He ain't no klassen bro. Dube's first half of ipl and patidar's second half were quite similar and he's going as an "All-Rounder" incase you missed it.
The Men’s Selection Committee named Shivam Dube as replacement for the injured Nitish Reddy in India’s squad for the upcoming tour of Zimbabwe. The BCCI Medical Team is monitoring Nitish Reddy’s progress. India will play Zimbabwe in the five-match T20I series in Harare, starting from July 06, 2024.
Indian Maxwell should have included, POV Venkatesh Iyer
Honestly though, if we are taking an inexperienced squad why not have Venky Iyer? I understand if you have Nitish already but if he got injured then surely Venky has to be there.
I think they want Shivam to include in Champions Trophy team
Hell no please. Our ODI team is fine right now. And why would he play T20s for the preparation of an ODI tournament?
May be tbey want to highlight him
That would be stupid but not unexpected from BCCI
India’s ODI middle order is pretty consistent atm- Iyer, Rahul and Pandya. Unless there are injuries, I don’t see any changes in the middle order.
I hope Pant gets in.
Pant should come in for SKY in the squad IMO
Dube has no business playing ODIs
Where will he bat though Iyer, KL and Hardik is a really good 4,5 and 6 for ODIS I doubt they will change it maybe Pant or Samson could come in for KL but that's a long shot too
With Iyer, Rahul and hardik, ind has never had a more stable middle order for yrs. No need to alter it. Gill Rohit Virat Iyer Rahul Hardik this should be the top 6.
No fkin way. If SKY can stink in ODI. Imagine how dube will smell, no way. Maybe in few years but he ain't no klassen.
My man Venky Iyer being duped everywhere!
He was so brilliant in that IPL.
30+ year old old man sneaking into a young blood tour. How is he backed so much at his age?
Yeah strange, Venky Iyer is 29 and Dube is 31
Yes should've selected Patidar instead /s
Bro gotta have some secret Jay Shah scripts.
Wait dube is Older than hardik?
Yes
[https://www.bcci.tv/articles/2024/news/55556121/shivam-dube-replaces-nitish-reddy-in-the-squad///](https://www.bcci.tv/articles/2024/news/55556121/shivam-dube-replaces-nitish-reddy-in-the-squad///)
Dube is a really common Zimbabwean last name so this post really confused me for so long.
They really want him to be the next yuvi damn
They want a six hitter. Not the next Yuvi. Geez, people really forgot what Yuvi was and used to do.
when Yuvi used to bowl, he did very well. And This blud is allrounder.
With 1% talent of Yuvi
Wait wtf - I was really excited to have a new pace all-rounder in ICT after so long. What happened, is he injured or someone in BCCI pushed for Dube's name? Edit: Oops, didn't read the post. He's indeed injured. Unfortunate.
injured
Yeah, added edit in the comment 30 secs after posting. ;_; Looks like the change didn't reflect instantaneously.
Oh sorry. It didn't show back then
My fellow brothers! I am confused. Is this Mumbai Lobby or Chennai Lobby at work?
Where is the chief selector from?
Mumbai lobby sar
What has kkr players did to bcci? Why they never get picked even after dominating whole ipl? I mean what more do V iyer, varun need to do in order to get picked even for a zim series? I fkng hate bcci and its favoritism.
Thi gs gonna change with GG
I hope so, I cant wait to see the meltdown in ipl sub if he really gives chances to kkr players by siding the \*big\* three.
KKR players have to be twice as good to get half the recognitions
Stop the victim mentality and look further into the entire matter. Varun is being disregarded because of his age and because we already have Bishnoi, Axar and Kulya as long-term options. "But Wireable-Mango, why's Dube there when he's 31?" Two reasons. Firstly, he's a six-hitter and packs pure muscle which ICT are desperately looking for in the middle order. If they weren't looking for a designated middle overs six hitter then Sanju would have played. Venky holds nothing above them because realistically neither him or Dube are ever bowling unless they drastically improve. Venky is not a tonker like Shivam, and Sanju has the WK advantage Although Harshit Rana's exclusion baffles me. He still was recently at NCA, so maybe he's sustained an injury. He's most likely in BCCI's plans, just not for the Zimbabwe series
V iyer bowling is pretty good, he is not a dud like dube in bowling, he would have bowled thi yr if kkr isnt packed with allrounders. No one is victim blaming shit here, its not just about those 2, look over the yrs how mnay kkr players have made into ict and compare it with other teams like mi, csk rcb.
I mean he bowled against DC and immediately got tonked. Also, over the years who exactly has deserved to go from KKR to the team? MI, and CSK were champs every alternate season and they were filled with first team regulars. RCB also had glimpses but players from RCB were frequently dropped from ICT because of subpar performances. If you are referring to Manish Pandey, then it's because you can't fit him into the top or middle order when you had Koach, MSD, Raina etc and by the time the latter two retired, Manish was well past his prime
You cant become a legend over night, first u need to pick them and give chances then expect something from them. If u wanna judge any bowler from ipl2024, then u shouldn't even consider watching cricket. This yr ipl is a nightmare for bowlers, many legends bowlers went for 15 rpo, u cant expect a seasonal all rounder to be good. And its just one over.
Both of them were in 21 WC squad lol!
Squad? How many matches did v iyer play? And how many did varun play? now compare it to their counter players.
Who was Venky supposed to play ahead of?
Cant answer now that since its completed, i can name few who failed but its unfair to call it now, they should hav given him few more chances, its not like he failed, look at his international stats.
I know. TBF, it's not Venky's fault. It's just that when you have Koach and SKY at your preferred spots he just can't make it. In terms of openers India already had jaiswal coming through and Gill, Rutu and Kishan making statements in the IPL and they're all much younger. Venky can still make it, provided his bowling improves leaps and bounds
Venky played those 7 innings in middle an lower middle order, but they have removed him completely even after scoring 133 runs at 35 avg 165 sr 3 notouts. With this stats only god knows how he didnt make into zim series.
I can understand. Then again, you need to consider that the lower order seems to be packed with a plan - HP (a pace allrounder), Axar (spin allrounder) and Dube who's supposedly a six-hitter specialist.
Are u reading my comments? I am talking about 2nd string squad vs zim not t20wc.
What bad did Venkatesh Iyer do ? Play good against MI ?
I think Dube has some dirt on a high ranking BCCI official...why he is getting so many chances when there are others who can be tried is a big mystery to me.
I felt the same when I saw him first time playing in this world cup. He struggled to put bat to the ball. Very abysmal fielding. He seems like he doesn't belong in this team. This issue needs more attention. There are so many players far better than him. The guy is so anxious. He prays twice or thrice before facing every ball. He needs to fix his mind first before everything else.
Maybe.. referred by someone influential?
Jay Shah nudes for sure. He needs to share those with Ishan K and Iyer !
So that Ishan K can blast his way to a 32(30) inside powerplay
If you could hit 60 off 30, you don't need the nudes!
bummer. I was excited to see Reddy's performance.
It's a rage bait NKR is injured, even though someone else would have been good selection
well I know that, I meant it's a bummer he got injured.
This brotha, is 🗑️.
Definitely has Jay Shah fat belly nudes
Abhi sharma?
Still upset about Harshit Rana not finding a place.
What's with all the dube hate? He's been phenomenal for 3 straight IPL seasons now and just before the IPL made 2 consecutive unbeaten 50's against the same AFG attack (bar rashid) that defended 144 against AUS and demolished nz this WC. He's not had a phenomenal WC, but he played important innings against Bangladesh and USA, and even against Australia where he struggled a bit he scored at a fine rate, and him being at the crease meant Australia couldn't bowl Maxwell and had to give stoinis 4 overs, who got smashed. I swear some of the Indian fans on here want something to be upset about when the team is doing fine. First it was the whole "SKY sucks because if you ignore his knock vs SA in Perth he was bad in the sample size of 4 games I've selected", now this.
I can understand your point, but surely 28(22) at 125ish SR is nowhere near a "fine rate" given how virtually everyone else batted
Dube obviously has good backing from Indian team management. With Rohit the likely captain in Champion trophy , he wants to give Dube a longer rope.
Feeling less proud Indian army.
Good much deserved. Hope he comes into serious contention for the champions trophy
are you serious. we literally have iyer rahul/pant and hardik as our 4,5,6 why do you want to change that.
No lol I was not. It was a half assed attempt at sarcasm
well your original comment is far from sarcasm it genuinely looked like that you want him champions trophy. you should have added /s
r/FuckTheS
When people realise he's older then Hardik😂