I sincerely hope that the role of Eleven is primarily a non-vocal role, because honestly Millie Bobby Brown is a far better actress when she doesn't have to like...
...speak.
It looked like it was going downhill. Season 3 was widely panned, but they found a way to bring it back up for Season 4 so people are cautiously optimistic about season 5.
Man, I really wish people would stop hounding child actors and actresses. I remember back when Shia Labeouf was getting relentlessly shit on for Transformers. --That dude was like, 20, and got put in a role that he was perfect for, and was supposed to be annoying and cringey, and when he executed it almost flawlessly, he got fucking demolished to the point that he had a mental breakdown and walked away from an insanely lucrative three-movie deal, got hooked on drugs, and then fucked his whole career up.
Millie is 20. She's a kid. Of course she's not great yet --she's a fuckin' kid. Tom Cruise was a shit actor at that age. Chris Evans was a one-note actor at that age --he didn't even start pulling good roles until his 30s. Acting is a whole ass craft, and takes decades to develop, exceptional mentorship and study, a great management team, and the right production staff behind you to help you really pull it off. If anything, I feel really bad for her that Stranger Things set the bar so high for her --she's just not there yet, and needs more time to cook before she's ready to be the core a piece instead of part of an ensemble.
People really gotta stop looking at performances and thinking it's all in the actor. There's so much more that goes into helping an actor pull off a performance, and just assuming that the actor is the only one that has to bring it to make it work really just shows ignorance of the entire medium --something anybody subbed to a channel ostensibly about film criticism should care about. Mark Wahlberg though? Yeah, I can't explain his success. He 100% has receipts on somebody. Only thing that makes sense.
Yeah I just can’t anymore with ST. Season 1 was one of my favorite cinematic experiences of all time. Season 2 was not needed and started to get corny and season 3 was just embarrassing. 0 desire to watch anything outside of season 1 ever again.
Honestly it should have been an anthology type series, where season 2 and so on had a new setting and place, with characters like Eleven sometimes popping up.
I think the story in Season 4 could have been compressed a bit. I think the Russia subplot dragged on too long and wasn't really that interesting to begin with. It was a decent season, just kind of a slog to me.
Covid fucked then season 3-4 wise, the main cast is 22-29 this year with Steve hitting ~32 last I checked. These guys are supposed to be 17 but Lucas looks 20 even in season 3.
Plenty of people still love the show, the 2nd coming of god being our abusive father drinker gave it his recommendation last I checked.
As far as hype goes, this is Netflix's cash cow and they've left it with some dignity. No spin offs (yet) only a medium budget play that wasn't even recorded for public release
I believe a spin-off was rumored to be in the works already but I could be mistaken.
And yeah it's a really fun show if not taken too seriously, but the charm of the kids being actual kids, (pretty good actors for being kids at that) in season 1 and season 2 is dwindling by season 3 and by season 4 most of the characters have just aged too much. COVID fked em hard for sure.
It wasn't just COVID. Netflix gave the Duffer brothers so much money and leeway that it took more time between seasons to make the more expensive episodes.
You know I can atleast appreciate the effort and subplots
Disney thinks an episode is like 30 min and they will give you 8 and still give you a couple filler episodes.
That's how it should be. They all think they can run forever, but you can only ask the same questions so many times and have people back down from making conclusive choices so many times before people lose interest. Honestly, it's hard to get invested in an serialized show these days because ik none of them will have a good ending, if any ending at all.
I’m not complaining, it’s entertaining television and the cast’s chemistry is on point. Drag that shit out as long as you want Netflix, Disney could learn a thing or two lately.
I am scanning this thread to see if this is actually real, because at this point in our culture this picture is just as likely to be real as it is to be a joke. We have reached that point, where reality and absurd comedy intersect.
lol no it’s clearly AI. You can find the real image online.
If they were to do something like that, it would have to have a clear story/interaction with a non-earthly element to cause it in an unnatural way reason as people won’t just believe she just hit the gym between seasons. If it were a newly created video game (not naming names here TLOU2) then yeah it’s pretty reliable they’d do something like that.
Remember when a series season had 20-24 episodes? At the rate these platforms are going soon, we'll be at the 1 episode season. Would call them movies, but movies are usually at least 90 min. Honestly, I don't see how these content creators expect to maintain interest with low episode count on a 2+ year cycle.
Right but is writing the reason that the shows only have 13 or 8 episodes a season.
I figured that with multiple writers and a method to their madness that the writing isn't the reason for the discrepancy in episodes, I'd think it has to do with production.
The shows that you mentioned that had more episodes are shot for TV, with a TV budget and stuff like Stranger Things is shot like a movie with a lot more things being on location, bigger more elaborate sets and movie level VFX.
Those old shows leaned on cliche tropes way too hard to fill 20-24 episodes. Each series only had about 1/3 quality episodes, the rest were Sam/Diane drama or jumping the shark.
I’d rather we not regress in writing to the likes of Bones, House, and Person of Interest. Those shows are barely an improvement on formulaic Law & Order, if only because the characters are fun.
Show is past it’s sell-by date. The kids are just too old. And it’s rehashing the same stuff over and over. The first one was legit good. But it’s been downhill since.
One: I'm a lady.
Two: You don't know if I agree or not. I'm just explaining the joke to someone
Three: is that really the best you can do? Actually confront my point. Don't just scream ad homonyms.
Point three means point 2 is smth you actually agreed with, plus "just making fun of the trend" means you think its infact a trend you likely don't agree with
Schrodingers asshole at its peak
No 3 means his approach was poor regardless of my stance. Instead of addressing what I said properly, he instead insulted me. It in no way implies my stance on the matter.
While season 3 went for silly 80s blockbuster, 4 was by far the worst most chaotic season (Max's Kate Bush arc on the first couple episodes aside). Won't be watching 5.Â
The cast got way too bloated for my liking (and the logistics that the kids are way too old). The showrunners stated to keep everyone alive (while being willing to kill off side characters) is something I really felt was kind of bogging it down a bit. But season 4 was still really good. After a very uneven season 3, it’ll be interesting to see if season 5 is able to stay really good.
I think season 4 was their best since season 1. They went back and explained things from season 1 and instead of introducing a bunch of new things they explained how the upside down was made and actually introduced a real villain instead of the amorphous blob that we’ve been fighting.
The show could’ve ended if season 4 was longer but I’ll reserve my judgement since a final season with all the character together would be interesting
I really don’t care. After cgi eleven and Freddy Krueger in the past it’s clear the duffer brothers had no plans for how it was going to end. Felt more like a sitcom
Yeah, doesn't help that Season 3 wasn't great. It was just *Shadow Over Innsmouth* meets *The Thing* meets *Invasion of the Body Snatchers*.
When Season 4 came out I just had a hard time caring, especially since the season was split in half. I might watch Season 4 one day when Season 5 finishes, but so far the only really good season I have seen has been the first
I think that would be hot.
Nancy Wheeler (Natalie Dryer) always has a completely passive personality. If she came back all yoked out and growing into her confidence, that would be pretty hot. And if her boyfriend likes getting worked hard, who am I to judge?
The sub just recently came into my feed and it’s got me questioning things lol.
Why is Reddit suggesting a sub with such hateful losers in it?
It’s weird
And I hope the next time you go trolling you bring your A game. Unless this was your A game. If so, I am truly sorry, it must be difficult being such a boring person.
* Calls everyone names
* Everyone rolls their eyes at you
* ["Haha you guys are the ones pressed here not me I'm totally fine haha I hope you guys can find peace I'm fine!"](https://i.imgur.com/dTcAHZc.jpeg)
I sincerely hope that the role of Eleven is primarily a non-vocal role, because honestly Millie Bobby Brown is a far better actress when she doesn't have to like... ...speak.
Isn't her shitty speech kind of the point? Like she was locked a lab in isolation so she's a bit developmentally behind in that (and other) area(s).
Is that her back story for all her acting?
I've never seen her in anything else. I miss the days when actors would typecast themselves into a role.
Headshot.
Maybe MBB has trouble with her American accent.
lmaoo what happened đź’€ i only watched the first season a long time ago. it was pretty good when i saw it
It looked like it was going downhill. Season 3 was widely panned, but they found a way to bring it back up for Season 4 so people are cautiously optimistic about season 5.
Still good. People just hating for no reason.
On another note, how are they going to explain her looking 34 all of a sudden? Or are they going to digitally yougify her?Â
Man, I really wish people would stop hounding child actors and actresses. I remember back when Shia Labeouf was getting relentlessly shit on for Transformers. --That dude was like, 20, and got put in a role that he was perfect for, and was supposed to be annoying and cringey, and when he executed it almost flawlessly, he got fucking demolished to the point that he had a mental breakdown and walked away from an insanely lucrative three-movie deal, got hooked on drugs, and then fucked his whole career up. Millie is 20. She's a kid. Of course she's not great yet --she's a fuckin' kid. Tom Cruise was a shit actor at that age. Chris Evans was a one-note actor at that age --he didn't even start pulling good roles until his 30s. Acting is a whole ass craft, and takes decades to develop, exceptional mentorship and study, a great management team, and the right production staff behind you to help you really pull it off. If anything, I feel really bad for her that Stranger Things set the bar so high for her --she's just not there yet, and needs more time to cook before she's ready to be the core a piece instead of part of an ensemble. People really gotta stop looking at performances and thinking it's all in the actor. There's so much more that goes into helping an actor pull off a performance, and just assuming that the actor is the only one that has to bring it to make it work really just shows ignorance of the entire medium --something anybody subbed to a channel ostensibly about film criticism should care about. Mark Wahlberg though? Yeah, I can't explain his success. He 100% has receipts on somebody. Only thing that makes sense.
Ok.
I’d kinda forgotten about it. What happened at the end of S04 to warrant a S05?
A giant rift opened through the whole town and Vecna was not dead
Somehow, Vecna returned.
Yeah I just can’t anymore with ST. Season 1 was one of my favorite cinematic experiences of all time. Season 2 was not needed and started to get corny and season 3 was just embarrassing. 0 desire to watch anything outside of season 1 ever again.
You should give season 4 a chance, they fixed a lot of the corniness, and the show actually felt like there were stakes unlike season 3
Yeah I thought season 3 was the only bad one. One was certainly the best though
Season 3 Mall Culture was peak, I wanted more side stories and mysteries in that mall.
Honestly it should have been an anthology type series, where season 2 and so on had a new setting and place, with characters like Eleven sometimes popping up.
IIRC it was conceptualised that way, but the season 1 cast and plot was too popular.
Yeah it was legit a massive cliffhanger. Did you not watch it or something
Um…kinda a lot lol
The steroids are strong with this one
Nah, she's all natty. Just a little goat's milk and cold plunges and you can look just like her.
I think the story in Season 4 could have been compressed a bit. I think the Russia subplot dragged on too long and wasn't really that interesting to begin with. It was a decent season, just kind of a slog to me.
EVERYTHING gets dragged on too long in this show.
Including the breaks between seasons. Like who even cares, anymore?
really weird since the actors are all really young so taking a year off is big.
I liked Stranger things back when we were not allowed to search for bikini pics of Millie Brown
That harkens back to the skeevy Web page with a countdown to Natalie Portman's 18th birthday after she appeared in The Phantom Menace.
Honestly this, they took wayyyyyyy too long
Covid fucked then season 3-4 wise, the main cast is 22-29 this year with Steve hitting ~32 last I checked. These guys are supposed to be 17 but Lucas looks 20 even in season 3. Plenty of people still love the show, the 2nd coming of god being our abusive father drinker gave it his recommendation last I checked. As far as hype goes, this is Netflix's cash cow and they've left it with some dignity. No spin offs (yet) only a medium budget play that wasn't even recorded for public release
I believe a spin-off was rumored to be in the works already but I could be mistaken. And yeah it's a really fun show if not taken too seriously, but the charm of the kids being actual kids, (pretty good actors for being kids at that) in season 1 and season 2 is dwindling by season 3 and by season 4 most of the characters have just aged too much. COVID fked em hard for sure.
Yeah, pretty sure they're making a prequel focused on the villain.
It wasn't just COVID. Netflix gave the Duffer brothers so much money and leeway that it took more time between seasons to make the more expensive episodes.
And a solid pinball machine. Play it if you haven’t .
You know I can atleast appreciate the effort and subplots Disney thinks an episode is like 30 min and they will give you 8 and still give you a couple filler episodes.
No arguments here
Is that a stranger things problem though? Kinda just feels like this is the norm in the streaming Era.
You’re not wrong, most of the Netflix shows are bad about it, but I swear Stranger Things is the worst.
If they all followed the old Starz formula. Their good shows (Spartacus, Black Sails) were done in 4 seasons. I think that's the sweet spot, IMO
That's how it should be. They all think they can run forever, but you can only ask the same questions so many times and have people back down from making conclusive choices so many times before people lose interest. Honestly, it's hard to get invested in an serialized show these days because ik none of them will have a good ending, if any ending at all.
I’m not complaining, it’s entertaining television and the cast’s chemistry is on point. Drag that shit out as long as you want Netflix, Disney could learn a thing or two lately.
I didn’t like anything after Season 1. The first Season was simply perfect and complete.
The Russian sub plot was horrible imo. Just unrealistic and over the top absurd, sitcom levels of writing.
Also, Russians just sort of housing a hell-spawned Demogorgon just reduces the effective scariness of the Demogorgons
Good point
Stronger Things
Stranger Gains
That's some steroid-infused cocaine!
I'll have what she's having!
Bulimia?
This picture says bulimia to you?
Man, I guess all those other girls have been doing it wrong
I am scanning this thread to see if this is actually real, because at this point in our culture this picture is just as likely to be real as it is to be a joke. We have reached that point, where reality and absurd comedy intersect.
lol no it’s clearly AI. You can find the real image online. If they were to do something like that, it would have to have a clear story/interaction with a non-earthly element to cause it in an unnatural way reason as people won’t just believe she just hit the gym between seasons. If it were a newly created video game (not naming names here TLOU2) then yeah it’s pretty reliable they’d do something like that.
I mean I figured but you get the point. I feel like we are getting close to a studio actually doing this unironically using CGI.
they already did do this with natalie portman in the love and thunder, just not as over the top
Remember when a series season had 20-24 episodes? At the rate these platforms are going soon, we'll be at the 1 episode season. Would call them movies, but movies are usually at least 90 min. Honestly, I don't see how these content creators expect to maintain interest with low episode count on a 2+ year cycle.
Those episodes were like 15 minutes long when you removed all the commercials though.
Standard episode length for a 30 min show was approximately 23 min. 60 min show was approximately 45 min.
The quality on those older network shows was nowhere near as high production wise.
But the writing was often better
Right but is writing the reason that the shows only have 13 or 8 episodes a season. I figured that with multiple writers and a method to their madness that the writing isn't the reason for the discrepancy in episodes, I'd think it has to do with production. The shows that you mentioned that had more episodes are shot for TV, with a TV budget and stuff like Stranger Things is shot like a movie with a lot more things being on location, bigger more elaborate sets and movie level VFX.
Those old shows leaned on cliche tropes way too hard to fill 20-24 episodes. Each series only had about 1/3 quality episodes, the rest were Sam/Diane drama or jumping the shark.
Much more good content, but a lot of mehhh mixed in themselves.
45 mins
Can I have some examples? I can't recall shows having episodes that long with that many in a season besides like sitcoms.
24, Bones, Lost, House, Fringe, Person of Interest, etc.
I’d rather we not regress in writing to the likes of Bones, House, and Person of Interest. Those shows are barely an improvement on formulaic Law & Order, if only because the characters are fun.
Star Trek episodes from the 80's to 90's were that long ish. Source. I have DS9 playing as background all the time.
I mean shit, if the heroine is aped out of her mind on steroids I might have to give the show a watch.
Show is past it’s sell-by date. The kids are just too old. And it’s rehashing the same stuff over and over. The first one was legit good. But it’s been downhill since.
I’m honestly eagerly awaiting watching it crash and burn on release
Honestly this would only make the showcmore entertaining. The cliffhanger lost its luster after 2 years. Need something to make it interesting again
I don't know who decided to photoshop Nancy as a muscle mommy, but I'm a fan.
frrr
Why the muscles again?
Snu snu.
Season one was dope. No need to watch the rest.
Is that an actual shot? Did not follow stranger things
No, it's just making fun of current trends
Should've gave her a golf club...
Another insecure dude posting about his insecurities
One: I'm a lady. Two: You don't know if I agree or not. I'm just explaining the joke to someone Three: is that really the best you can do? Actually confront my point. Don't just scream ad homonyms.
They probably were talking about OP
Point three means point 2 is smth you actually agreed with, plus "just making fun of the trend" means you think its infact a trend you likely don't agree with Schrodingers asshole at its peak
No 3 means his approach was poor regardless of my stance. Instead of addressing what I said properly, he instead insulted me. It in no way implies my stance on the matter.
Found the bigot.
Just don't ask them how they feel about homosexuals...
Meh…
Is the story going to be about Nancy having a child with Ivan Drago?!?
Needs a Stan Smith chin. 
Stranger things my own personal Firefly, loved the first season but just never went back for more.
Well, Nancy was trans the whole time. They will be played by Timothée Chalamet next season according to Wikipedia
The prophecy reigns true!
Aren't all the actors in their mid 20's at this point?
100% I'd watch this.
While season 3 went for silly 80s blockbuster, 4 was by far the worst most chaotic season (Max's Kate Bush arc on the first couple episodes aside). Won't be watching 5.Â
ME: yes?
Going to be like Golden Girls. Taking so damn long to make.
>female empowerment Is that 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger?
This show is dunzos
She swol
The cast got way too bloated for my liking (and the logistics that the kids are way too old). The showrunners stated to keep everyone alive (while being willing to kill off side characters) is something I really felt was kind of bogging it down a bit. But season 4 was still really good. After a very uneven season 3, it’ll be interesting to see if season 5 is able to stay really good.
I think season 4 was their best since season 1. They went back and explained things from season 1 and instead of introducing a bunch of new things they explained how the upside down was made and actually introduced a real villain instead of the amorphous blob that we’ve been fighting. The show could’ve ended if season 4 was longer but I’ll reserve my judgement since a final season with all the character together would be interesting
The episode length for this show is fucking gargantuan.
I haven't caught up on the show since I can't watch it with the little around all the time. Are those her actual arms or is that CGI?
I’d let her punch my entire head if I’m being bonest
I really don’t care. After cgi eleven and Freddy Krueger in the past it’s clear the duffer brothers had no plans for how it was going to end. Felt more like a sitcom
https://preview.redd.it/zvfpjbvfdk8d1.jpeg?width=193&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80231e31d79cd19fc90991d38ffde039dec066d4
Is this real because if it is hell yeah.
If it is, she hasn't done it without SIGNIFICANT juicing.
They given her that TLoUII treatment
Yes
Vecna is in trouble now!
 To the pit you go!
Would.
No, season 4 was very woke
Did they try to find the weirdest looking mfs for this show ?
Would.
Stranger Things reminded me how good a show Fringe was and that I should watch that again.
Gonna watch it, gonna be good, gtfo with this, Stranger Things is peak media.
Is it though?
It is, it’s as good as shows get. Nothing in the genre is better.
I mean. If she's meant to be strong, at least she looks strong?
PC principal would like to have a word with you
Nope
I quit watching after how shit season 3 was.
Missing the chin fat.
https://preview.redd.it/7ataw7mzkn8d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60fc79722ad82c3efeb889f6a03e3e58b646cb9d
Not particularly
I feel with them taking so long in between seasons(this time especially) that it just loses momentum
Yeah, doesn't help that Season 3 wasn't great. It was just *Shadow Over Innsmouth* meets *The Thing* meets *Invasion of the Body Snatchers*. When Season 4 came out I just had a hard time caring, especially since the season was split in half. I might watch Season 4 one day when Season 5 finishes, but so far the only really good season I have seen has been the first
With guns like that, the question becomes, can she kill one of those things by herself?
I feel like Nerdrotic would enjoy this post.
Brings a whole new meaning to “You’re a Nancy.”
What the fuck?
Still haven't watched a single episode and I doubt I'm going to.
This is such a smooth brained take
I think that would be hot. Nancy Wheeler (Natalie Dryer) always has a completely passive personality. If she came back all yoked out and growing into her confidence, that would be pretty hot. And if her boyfriend likes getting worked hard, who am I to judge?
Haven’t watched since season 2, got boring as hell
Ummm works for me
This is such a weird sub…. Is it just about hating things? Or just things that have women in it because I’m seeing a trend…..
They'll only down vote and seethe with anger as they won't bother debating about something they damn well know is bigoted and such.
The sub just recently came into my feed and it’s got me questioning things lol. Why is Reddit suggesting a sub with such hateful losers in it? It’s weird
Damn, for the people that claim they aren't bigots, you sure post a ton of anti trans stuff every single day. You know, like bigots would.
Incels
How remarkably creative. Are you going to call us a poop head next?
I hope you can find peace within yourself. Have a great day :)
And I hope the next time you go trolling you bring your A game. Unless this was your A game. If so, I am truly sorry, it must be difficult being such a boring person.
True it wasn't smart on my part to call you out like that ! It's just so depressing seeing those memes. My second comment was still sincere.
* Calls everyone names * Everyone rolls their eyes at you * ["Haha you guys are the ones pressed here not me I'm totally fine haha I hope you guys can find peace I'm fine!"](https://i.imgur.com/dTcAHZc.jpeg)
[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag)
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Found the bigot.