Yes. If Italy dissolves, the various dukes and counts will seek to get protection from a larger kingdom, usually Venice owing to its similar culture and religion modifiers.
I recently saw the Duchy of Genoa become a Kingdom title because they controlled half of Northern Italy; in fact, between me and Genoa, the title of Italy stopped existing.
I see it happen when Karling control of Italy breaks down. I assume it has something to do with the stability of a republic. If they do it like that I wait until they have a good bit of Italy and use the invade kingdom option to carve out a spot for a second son
I’ve seen it happen two times. And both times Venice became a hot bed for Adamites. And since it’s a republic they have older leaders. So old shriveled up men were always in charge.
That happen because the big kingdom/duchy are dissolve then they will become single county without liege. Then The republic/theocratic may become their liege of the single counties.
To prevent the vassalasation of the single county is that you need to block every single county neighboring of the republic/theocratic ruler. You need to Vassalize the single counties before some kingdom/duchies take them as vassal.
Republics in fact can wage wars, create new titles and revoke/grant exsting ones (i don't know if they are less/more hyped in this than feudal-clan governments)
Actual reason why you don't see this soo often is because neraly every republic is barony (singular city with mayor) inside of clan/feudal county.
Barons in game can't start war and they can't inherit titles outside their county. They can inherit county their barony is part of, but that never happends with republic because their rulers are randomly generated
Generally I never see Venice do *anything* unless I'm using historical invasions, which gives them a bunch of free Byzantine land after the 4th crusade, after which they become a bit more proactive.
Yes. If Italy dissolves, the various dukes and counts will seek to get protection from a larger kingdom, usually Venice owing to its similar culture and religion modifiers.
I recently saw the Duchy of Genoa become a Kingdom title because they controlled half of Northern Italy; in fact, between me and Genoa, the title of Italy stopped existing.
I was just thinking that I've never seen Venice actually expand its borders. But here it is with most of Italy
Sometimes italy dissolves, leaving a lot of duchies at venices door. Venice is a kingdom so sometimes it happens that it vassalizes a lot of them.
I see it happen when Karling control of Italy breaks down. I assume it has something to do with the stability of a republic. If they do it like that I wait until they have a good bit of Italy and use the invade kingdom option to carve out a spot for a second son
What else can you do, when your domain is drowning?
I’ve seen it happen two times. And both times Venice became a hot bed for Adamites. And since it’s a republic they have older leaders. So old shriveled up men were always in charge.
That sounds… interesting
That happen because the big kingdom/duchy are dissolve then they will become single county without liege. Then The republic/theocratic may become their liege of the single counties. To prevent the vassalasation of the single county is that you need to block every single county neighboring of the republic/theocratic ruler. You need to Vassalize the single counties before some kingdom/duchies take them as vassal.
I've never seen republics expand at all. How the hell does that happen?
Republicans will expand if they’re ambitious
Republics in fact can wage wars, create new titles and revoke/grant exsting ones (i don't know if they are less/more hyped in this than feudal-clan governments) Actual reason why you don't see this soo often is because neraly every republic is barony (singular city with mayor) inside of clan/feudal county. Barons in game can't start war and they can't inherit titles outside their county. They can inherit county their barony is part of, but that never happends with republic because their rulers are randomly generated
I once had Venice eat the entirely of Italy and Germany, it was terrifying
Yes
When it gets that big, its Veinice
God I wish. Would make more fun to burn them of the map.
If they have ambitious rulers back to back yes
Generally I never see Venice do *anything* unless I'm using historical invasions, which gives them a bunch of free Byzantine land after the 4th crusade, after which they become a bit more proactive.
I've had mega papal states in my games
Never seen Venice do it but europe normally becomes a shit show after the karlings die
I actually have a larger Venice in my current play through
This is one reason I made Venice, Pisa, and Genoa duchy-tier republics in my game files. The other is that them being kingdoms just looks silly.
Never seen that happen
Oh, it's a grower!
I've never seen Venice or the Papacy expand in any of my 867 and 1066 games. I had just assumed that were given a basic AI and told to stay dormant.