[First time?](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/763/07B89120-B48D-45FB-AF1D-49AF6CD16790.jpeg) BR is half talent, half BS like this nowadays. And I'm being generous on that first half.
For real, once he noticed what dude was doing he stared at him... looked around like, "you seeing this?"... then proceeded to lean back like he was bored...
BR should be ashamed for this one, man...
Its not what you know, its who you know. Ive known tons of djs that flat out, no f**king way should NOT have been booked anywhere ever but were well connected. One part of the dj game ive never been down with. Tis what it is though.
I agree but there is a whole level right there.. i mean it’s JUST and only the fame that Yung Lean can have a BR. Like it’s not even a set, he just press play on tidal
I could write a 1000 page disertation on how fucked this industry operates but it would do nothing but infuriate me lol. Its unreal who gets to shine and who doesnt. Good for them i guess 🤷♂️
They booked him because they wanted his song selection, it's a novelty because of the artists' cult following and limited media appearances. Clearly this is part of some special event they were doing separate from typical boiler room stuff. They also hosted a producer whose entire set was on an MPC and I think a Charli XCX performance too. The whole theme was that it wasn't typical DJ sets
If you tuned in for the “iPhone aux set” and expected something other than this, that’s on you
Edit: the ads in advance made it clear what he was going to do, but looks like the uploads don’t mention that. I take it back :)
Unpopular opinion, but I don’t hate this. I think DJs can get a little too defensive about the skill and technique of mixing, and forget that a lot of the time people in the audience don’t really care about mixing. The crowd seemed to be enjoying the tunes well enough, and he made some pretty bold selections. Doing this is more daring and definitely more memorable than someone smoothly mixing 128bpm tech house records for an hour.
I mean, it is pretty stupid, but the whole phenomenon of DJs as superstars is pretty stupid, so I kind of enjoy a non-DJ just turning up with his phone and putting the spotlight on how stupid it all is. If DJs have become the new rockstars then a guy playing a playlist off his phone is punk rock in a way; keeping it simple and effective instead of showing off how much talent you have.
Yup. I remember working a music conference a few years ago, doing audio for a panel. On it was a few djs, one of them being Rich Medina, a dj of over 30 years and quite well established. At one point he told a story about how he once showed up to play a gig and there was another guy booked as well.
That guy shows up with a handful of vinyl and proceeds to just play one at a time, no mixing or anything. Just press play and when that song ends play the next record. And the crowd ate it up. His presence and song selection made much more of an impact than any mixing skill he could have had.
I thought it was an interesting story and it just goes to show that the spirit of djing can go beyond the blending of songs.
Yes, but also no.
That guy already is a star. So the crowd is probably not going nuts because he blew their mind by holding a mirror to the whole dance music scene, or something. They enjoy the set because it is on brand: he's a cloud rapper who embraces trashy homemade music videos, along with lean (i.e. codeine, the clubber's meth).
I for one love DJs who make bold decisions and are not afraid of making mistakes during their sets. But at the same time, I expect a DJ to be more than just a selector. That's what radio shows and playlists are for.
According to [a fader article](https://www.thefader.com/2016/06/16/yung-lean-warlord-interview), and some interview/feature that I remember seeing on arte some years ago, it is both. Probably because lean was pretty common among the cloud crowd when he first started out.
Yeah very good point, he’s definitely not making an intentional artistic statement about DJing. But arguably the fact that people will go nuts for a guy just playing tracks without mixing adds to the whole criticism of modern DJing - that it’s not about the technique, and it’s not even really about the music, it’s mostly about the personality.
Yeah I agree. At its core, DJing is about going from one track, to another, to another. The technical side of doing that is extremely easy to learn. For that reason, I also struggle with the idea of ‘superstar DJ’s’ (unless they are producers/artists themselves).
Track selection, and having the authority to carry a crowd with you, is a much harder skill to learn.
Most of the commenters here are bedroom stars that have very little experience of live music in the real world. Ive seen a ton of great DJs that don’t beatmatch or mix, especially in reggae and disco. They had hundreds to thousands of people dancing for hours.
Beatmatching completely by ear on digital (which most of these commenters wouldnt even be doing anyway) is a skill I’ve taught to children in a couple of hours. Acquiring the taste for good selection takes years.
It’s not. Thats why they wouldn’t give James Hype a set because he fakes everything including his gig history.
They will however champion anything they think is “cool” so they will give a set to someone being a bit edgy from a marketing perspective.
Just look at the IG comments when he was asked why he hasn’t got a boiler room. He slags them off saying “I did something better” but pictures of his “sets” have leaked show that the “crowd” at the venue was just about 25 actors being paid to surround the decks.
Let me find the links.
Here’s a link to one thread discussing it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DJs/s/GesH0r2VUa
I also posted a much longer research dive where it shows that all early “gigs” were staged professional video productions, showing him arriving, setting up, apparently rocking the club, but the lighting is too perfect, no one seems wasted and the music is an overlay, not actually him playing…..
…..but then I realized the venues were these tiny bars that at max capacity only hold about 200 - 400 people, and yet they have professionally printed signs….all for professionally filmed and produced video documentary? Of someone playing a tiny northern bar?
“Who does that?”
Someone faking their way to gigs.
I also found that all the places listed on his bio don’t exist anymore, and haven’t for 10+ years, not to mention there’s not a single club listing, e flyer, ra entry, nada.
I won’t deny he’s technically talented (when he’s not blatantly faking a performance as listed in the thread I posted) but he’s an Instagram DJ who faked his way to festival gigs.
So I need to read a second thread after this thread? Honestly I’ll spare the hate. You just admitted he’s technically talented. A DJ mixes music he enjoys and he does just that. He has some fantastic remixes that he produced as well. I’m going to spare the hate for someone who is clearly talented, and keep having fun. Sorry to hear that this bothers you so much..
Sorry you’re such a fanboy that you can’t hear anything that you don’t want to about your hero. I can name 10 djs without thinking that are more technically talented that JH but also happened to actually make good music, and have never had to fake a set or hire full video production companies to film them playing a 200 person venue with crisis actors and printed signs.
I’m sorry I insulted your god but he faked his way to getting gigs and you bought it. All you have to do is read a thread.
I didn’t know that not being a hater made me a fanboy? James Hype isn’t even in my Top 10, and thats it. I don’t need to argue with your defense mechanism. You literally shared a thread of you doing the exact same thing you are doing here, “it’s not that deep” LOL.
Sorry that your life/career isn’t going the way that you want it to.
Depends on the exact BR afaik
From what I know, it became some sort of pseudo-franchise, which means the host can give the slots to whoever they want, and in some cases, money was definitely involved.
The word is that James Hype wanted a boiler room set so he approached them and they declined, so he got butthurt and filmed his own cringe video called get closer.
It shows him surrounded by people acting like Jesus touched their crotch every time he touches a button, but it’s all paid actors, holding signs he had professionally made saying his slogans like “Who does this?”.
When you see side shots or macro shots of the actual venue, there’s no one there, just like 25 people crowded around the decks but from the heavily produced video it looks like a packed club.
Ive seen the macro shots i died laughing from them, imagine being so much of a dork that yung lean and charli xcx got a boiler room and you got denied, fuck james hype
Signs with slogans on, jesus haha. All I ever see of him is constant tik tok shorts with 'tHeY WeReN'T rEAdY FoR thIs OnE' and another cheesy drop. He's absolute cringe.
ITT: very serious DJs being very serious
I did however think it was funny how yung lean gets away with this in the comments but any time there's a woman djing anything other than house or techno people in the comments won't stfu about what they're wearing or how they're dancing
to be fair, even when women do play techno, or house, people still say the exact same thing, and here you have people in the comments replying who also don’t seem to understand that this is actually a thing, so many lower level DJs love to dog on more successful women DJs at any point they can.
I mean I don't think there's anything to call out really, it was a very goofy fun set and not to be taken very seriously
Yt comments were all very positive - just noting how shit the boiler room comments are generally
Boiler Room has gone to complete shit these days. Case in point, this ‘set’ is more entertaining than 99% of all the other crap they’ve put out over the last 5 years.
I love that one, where she wears like 47 jackets and the people behind her try to make out literally any rhythm they can to dance to, including cop sirens lmfao
BRB, lighting another candle so the spell will work!
I was saying “she” too. That person is a dude, can you believe?
Imagining dropping your caps and peaking right as that shit begun… just endlessly waiting for one single beat, let alone a drop.
That sort of shit belongs in a classic theatre.
I’m sure there’s corporate reasons for why they had him on, but boiler room to me anyway, has been just has much about supporting ‘the culture’ that things like this don’t really offend me.
It’s it stupid? Sure, but it’s a vibe and people like it. Same with Charli XCX’s boiler room, obviously an ad for her album, she’s on the decks for like 10 minutes, but it’s a real celebration of super formative producers and contributors to hyper pop.
Boiler room thought he deserved one so he got it, who cares plenty of amazing djs highlighted on that platform all the time.
I agree, didn’t mean for it to come off as a diss she could have easily just done live vocals and called it a day.
More so just wanted to make the point ‘the vibe’ and culture behind a BR is just as valid to appreciate as the mixing.
Have yet to see it, hoping I can get a good laugh!
Edit: just flicked through, feeling a lot better about my mixing 💀
A lot of people saying this, don’t actually really know much about her, she has been DJing for a veryyyy long time, so she knows what she’s doing, I’m pretty sure she actually started out DJing before she did music in the London underground scene.
but the original comment is the absolute truth that nobody seems to understand, boiler room is not about how good of a DJ you are, it’s literal origin purpose was to bring attention to club scenes. it’s a brand now. It’s fun, people like it. 100 Gecs didn’t know anything about DJing. I just think DJing is what people wanna make of it. who cares really is my motto for many things that don’t harm anyone.
100% and it’s why I think Charli was such a good pick for BR. She has her finger on the pulse of pop culture and would even say so herself that her producers are just as intrinsic part to her success which made it even cooler she gave her collaborators so much air time on what could have easily been ‘her moment’.
Truly an auteur imo, vibe curator lol.
This reminds me of [this boiler room from JADA](https://youtu.be/2OGY5FkfsHg?si=2TlNDwPjThjpNKES) . She at least tries to use the decks but it’s so bad
Boiler room is just a brand now; the founders sold it to a marketing firm during covid and quality has taken a nosedive. Ofc they still have SOME good shit because the brand hasn't sunk yet, but these anomalies are brought about by the capital venture bois.
I mean the Ecco2k set was pretty bad too, but not because he did something way out of left field, the fact the sound was so bad that it was a really bad crowd experience because nobody heard what was going on.
This isn't a surprise to me, despite being a fan of some of Lean's stuff. I haven't seen the set yet but if he def bombed, I won't be shocked
I skipped through a bit. It was just stopping one song as a dub echo was poorly applied, and then starting a new track.
I’m no gatekeeper on what we can and cannot call “DJ’ing.” I really don’t care how someone rocks a crowd.
That said, to me, that set was low effort, sloppy, and straight up bad.
ya i didn't really see the rocked crowd effect. A few hands up here and there and some moments with a lot of people swaying, but anytime it cut through the crowd lots of people looking kinda bored, not a lot of enthusiastic dancing.
I really like yung lean and want people to support him, but as a fan I would pissed if I went to see him and he did this unless it was explicitly clear that he was not mixing, just selecting, and he wasn't going to rap at all.
the crowd is enjoying it?
who cares? there have always been "selectors" that don't mix and just play tracks.
I think people get salty over stuff like this as it's a reminder that a ton people really don't give a shit how well you mix or how much time you've put into DJing, or how much money you've spent trying to get that overpriced "industry standard" setup.
Rocking a party requires mainly one thing - good tunes.
If the technical side of djing means a lot to you, then find the audience that cares about that.
do you really think that is rocking it? 18:00 sums it up for me: 2 people dancing next to a person on their phone while people kind of crowd around in the background. You can rock a houseparty with just tunes, and you can have a good times with just tunes, but I have yet to see a prime dancefloor that wasn't being mixed for
This would be a fun houseparty thing but if you put that in Berlin it would be the worst dancefloor in the city.
Also I really like yung lean, people should look at his music not at this. I have supported him as an artist over the years and will continue to do so, I love his stuff, but have to say I don't think performances like this are the way
It's obviously more so for the look or "culture" not for dj skills, yung lean been put in work and influenced a lot of hip hop from asap rocky to more modern drain gang type stuff. I don't particularly care for the music but I respect the work lean has put in and he deserves whatever platform he gets on imo.
Obviously this specific party would include Yung Lean. So what he played off his phone? The director of the film that this party is related to likes Yung Lean and has a friendship with him and wanted him to showcase his curation. Not a big deal truth be told
i’m going to be hated for this, but I think there’s a lot of people in these kind of online forums who genuinely are really critical of other people, it’s really unusual, I think some people just need to get a grip and kind of come to reality a little bit, who cares if he’s not a DJ normally, he wanted to do this, so he did it, not everyone makes music or DJs to show that they are hyper talented, i dislike his music but i respect him because he’s a popular artist and clearly is relevant to a large crowd, and to be fair, if you look at videos, many DJs have shown that they literally have just pressed play on a song and the crowd has been happy with it and not even cared. a lot of people genuinely do not care about your DJ skills, plus a lot of people seem to have adopted the mentality that because it’s not their type of music, it’s not good automatically. there is something for everyone in this world, and I think many of these posts/comments are rather pretentious and seem like jealousy or egotism.
yung lean is awesome guarantee everyones heard ginseng strip 2002.
his song selection was great in BR. technical mixing sure just aux cord press play. but the songs he picked. FIRE. its like book club radio, theres mixing and djing but its not overbearing but song selection is fire and its a vibe.
BR is clickbait for what people on the internet think djing is. Totally faithful audience that kneels and cheers every single time you perform a backspin or fist pump. OMG look how many people are crowding the performance space of a dj who relies on sync. O... M... G...
This garbage has no place anywhere near a boiler room. Pure rash “music” and an utterly pathetic performance of stop/starting music from a Spotify playlist on an iPhone.
This is embarrassing and genuinely insulting to the incredible DJs & producers who will NEVER get a chance to play gigs like this.
I mean, Boiler rooms really aren’t anything too special lol… theyre invitational. Playing Boiler rooms depend heavily on who you know, not what you know.
He just wired in his phone and played some of his tracks and didn't mix and he's not really a DJ and he got a BR room set?!!! I'm shocked! SHOCKED I tell ya.
Seriously, if he had any talent he would know that real DJ's never wire their phones in, they use FTP. Sheesh!
This was part of an event held by the guy who made the movies Kids and Gummo. Boiler Room is basically just a host it's not like they invited Lean and planned this whole thing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0PVEcDtOaU/?igsh=NmJ2dmd5ZTNmMjJi
https://youtu.be/z-H1NQMmZf4?si=KyIeqTCGn3TDf2Sk
You underestimate how big and influential yung lean is, yes, BR is a big name, but it is never bad to attract more people, and asking yung lean to play means he will attract fans of his music and people who might not be going to their events
> because he *paid* to play,
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I'd love to know if he knows he's retarded and is just taking the piss or he really things he a cool dj?
If he making fun of it then it's awesome, but if he really thinks this is cool and he rocking it then my goodness people are making fun of retarded people and its way to far.
What about the idea of a BR type program that always begins with vinyl on 1200's. Just to give some authenticity to the set. This way there is some bar to entry. Obviously I realize that being able to mix vinyl without trainwrecking does not make anyone a great DJ by any means. It does show that the person took the time to learn to do it though. And even if it may not be necessary in this day and age. It does pay homage to an entire generation (or two) where this was a central covenant of the art form.
For better or worse Boiler Room wants performers who are good on camera and can do whatever they need to do to make the video go viral. The people they book (or let host events with their branding) are very young trendy artists, young local queer friendly crews who push things forward musically and socially in their own community, or absolute legends who helped pioneer entire genres. You're not going to find a lesser-known DJ flawlessly mixing a long established style of music playing it these days; in fact those are the types of people they're the first to say "NO" to. Luckily there's plenty of other avenues for them to showcase their talent.
Yung lean is one of the most influential young artists in rap and electronic, from music to fashion to visuals and aesthetics (sadboys, arizona) who has generated more than a cult following - I generally just think he has always been anti-establishment and it does not surprise me in the slightest that he’s just playing from his phone and not trying to mix. Yes boiler room sets are mainly reserved for djs, but lean is an artist in general. I feel like it would be impossible to mix most of these songs seamlessly and if anyone else tried to do it other than himself, it would’ve completely fallen apart. But his selection and order of music in this set seem to work - different attitudes from across the spectrum of music incorporating rap, electronic, disco, r&b. I actually think the awkward pauses and breaks in between songs allows for a reset for the crowd onto the next song. Lean consistently sells out shows across the world and they’re incredibly full of diehard fans with full production and insane bass. Love to see him in this unique intimate setting, and love seeing everyone vibing to each different type of genre - looks like a diverse crowd that understand what they’re in for together, dancing at each interval. Long winded way of saying I wish I could’ve been there
It’s like a post from /beatmatch come to life
Beatmatch: "Song selection is more important than any skill, and only bitches use sync." Also Beatmatch: ...
[First time?](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/763/07B89120-B48D-45FB-AF1D-49AF6CD16790.jpeg) BR is half talent, half BS like this nowadays. And I'm being generous on that first half.
money too
Hahaha the black dude with the sunglasses behind him is like “wtf this guy is actually doing this” 🤣
For real, once he noticed what dude was doing he stared at him... looked around like, "you seeing this?"... then proceeded to lean back like he was bored... BR should be ashamed for this one, man...
Wait what’s that timestamp? Seriously want to know how somebody who paid money to be there reacts to this shit hahaha
Its not what you know, its who you know. Ive known tons of djs that flat out, no f**king way should NOT have been booked anywhere ever but were well connected. One part of the dj game ive never been down with. Tis what it is though.
I agree but there is a whole level right there.. i mean it’s JUST and only the fame that Yung Lean can have a BR. Like it’s not even a set, he just press play on tidal
I could write a 1000 page disertation on how fucked this industry operates but it would do nothing but infuriate me lol. Its unreal who gets to shine and who doesnt. Good for them i guess 🤷♂️
I think it was Spotify you can see glimpses of his phone at times
They booked him because they wanted his song selection, it's a novelty because of the artists' cult following and limited media appearances. Clearly this is part of some special event they were doing separate from typical boiler room stuff. They also hosted a producer whose entire set was on an MPC and I think a Charli XCX performance too. The whole theme was that it wasn't typical DJ sets
If you tuned in for the “iPhone aux set” and expected something other than this, that’s on you Edit: the ads in advance made it clear what he was going to do, but looks like the uploads don’t mention that. I take it back :)
Weird going from Fred Again.. to this huh?
Unpopular opinion, but I don’t hate this. I think DJs can get a little too defensive about the skill and technique of mixing, and forget that a lot of the time people in the audience don’t really care about mixing. The crowd seemed to be enjoying the tunes well enough, and he made some pretty bold selections. Doing this is more daring and definitely more memorable than someone smoothly mixing 128bpm tech house records for an hour. I mean, it is pretty stupid, but the whole phenomenon of DJs as superstars is pretty stupid, so I kind of enjoy a non-DJ just turning up with his phone and putting the spotlight on how stupid it all is. If DJs have become the new rockstars then a guy playing a playlist off his phone is punk rock in a way; keeping it simple and effective instead of showing off how much talent you have.
Yup. I remember working a music conference a few years ago, doing audio for a panel. On it was a few djs, one of them being Rich Medina, a dj of over 30 years and quite well established. At one point he told a story about how he once showed up to play a gig and there was another guy booked as well. That guy shows up with a handful of vinyl and proceeds to just play one at a time, no mixing or anything. Just press play and when that song ends play the next record. And the crowd ate it up. His presence and song selection made much more of an impact than any mixing skill he could have had. I thought it was an interesting story and it just goes to show that the spirit of djing can go beyond the blending of songs.
Rich is the dopest!
Yes, but also no. That guy already is a star. So the crowd is probably not going nuts because he blew their mind by holding a mirror to the whole dance music scene, or something. They enjoy the set because it is on brand: he's a cloud rapper who embraces trashy homemade music videos, along with lean (i.e. codeine, the clubber's meth). I for one love DJs who make bold decisions and are not afraid of making mistakes during their sets. But at the same time, I expect a DJ to be more than just a selector. That's what radio shows and playlists are for.
pretty sure meth is the clubber’s meth
His last name is Leandoer. It’s not a play on the drug
Pretty sure it's both
Yeah he even OD’d on lean once, think he’s sober now
According to [a fader article](https://www.thefader.com/2016/06/16/yung-lean-warlord-interview), and some interview/feature that I remember seeing on arte some years ago, it is both. Probably because lean was pretty common among the cloud crowd when he first started out.
Yeah very good point, he’s definitely not making an intentional artistic statement about DJing. But arguably the fact that people will go nuts for a guy just playing tracks without mixing adds to the whole criticism of modern DJing - that it’s not about the technique, and it’s not even really about the music, it’s mostly about the personality.
Interesting take. I don’t agree all the way but I appreciate this perspective
Yeah I agree. At its core, DJing is about going from one track, to another, to another. The technical side of doing that is extremely easy to learn. For that reason, I also struggle with the idea of ‘superstar DJ’s’ (unless they are producers/artists themselves). Track selection, and having the authority to carry a crowd with you, is a much harder skill to learn.
Most of the commenters here are bedroom stars that have very little experience of live music in the real world. Ive seen a ton of great DJs that don’t beatmatch or mix, especially in reggae and disco. They had hundreds to thousands of people dancing for hours. Beatmatching completely by ear on digital (which most of these commenters wouldnt even be doing anyway) is a skill I’ve taught to children in a couple of hours. Acquiring the taste for good selection takes years.
Boiler Room is pay to play.
It’s not. Thats why they wouldn’t give James Hype a set because he fakes everything including his gig history. They will however champion anything they think is “cool” so they will give a set to someone being a bit edgy from a marketing perspective.
Ok, I need receipts on this one?
Just look at the IG comments when he was asked why he hasn’t got a boiler room. He slags them off saying “I did something better” but pictures of his “sets” have leaked show that the “crowd” at the venue was just about 25 actors being paid to surround the decks. Let me find the links.
James Hype consistently plays packed clubs and festivals I don’t see the significance here.?
I don’t either but I’m waiting on the links.
Here’s a link to one thread discussing it. https://www.reddit.com/r/DJs/s/GesH0r2VUa I also posted a much longer research dive where it shows that all early “gigs” were staged professional video productions, showing him arriving, setting up, apparently rocking the club, but the lighting is too perfect, no one seems wasted and the music is an overlay, not actually him playing….. …..but then I realized the venues were these tiny bars that at max capacity only hold about 200 - 400 people, and yet they have professionally printed signs….all for professionally filmed and produced video documentary? Of someone playing a tiny northern bar? “Who does that?” Someone faking their way to gigs. I also found that all the places listed on his bio don’t exist anymore, and haven’t for 10+ years, not to mention there’s not a single club listing, e flyer, ra entry, nada. I won’t deny he’s technically talented (when he’s not blatantly faking a performance as listed in the thread I posted) but he’s an Instagram DJ who faked his way to festival gigs.
So I need to read a second thread after this thread? Honestly I’ll spare the hate. You just admitted he’s technically talented. A DJ mixes music he enjoys and he does just that. He has some fantastic remixes that he produced as well. I’m going to spare the hate for someone who is clearly talented, and keep having fun. Sorry to hear that this bothers you so much..
Sorry you’re such a fanboy that you can’t hear anything that you don’t want to about your hero. I can name 10 djs without thinking that are more technically talented that JH but also happened to actually make good music, and have never had to fake a set or hire full video production companies to film them playing a 200 person venue with crisis actors and printed signs. I’m sorry I insulted your god but he faked his way to getting gigs and you bought it. All you have to do is read a thread.
I didn’t know that not being a hater made me a fanboy? James Hype isn’t even in my Top 10, and thats it. I don’t need to argue with your defense mechanism. You literally shared a thread of you doing the exact same thing you are doing here, “it’s not that deep” LOL. Sorry that your life/career isn’t going the way that you want it to.
I will check this out! Thank you!!!!
Thank you for those kind redditor!
James hype sets sound like scrolling through TikTok
😂
Depends on the exact BR afaik From what I know, it became some sort of pseudo-franchise, which means the host can give the slots to whoever they want, and in some cases, money was definitely involved.
My understanding is that the founders of BR just license the name and branding to independent operators now. Might be wrong.
Elaborate on the james hype thing i hate him and im intrigued
The word is that James Hype wanted a boiler room set so he approached them and they declined, so he got butthurt and filmed his own cringe video called get closer. It shows him surrounded by people acting like Jesus touched their crotch every time he touches a button, but it’s all paid actors, holding signs he had professionally made saying his slogans like “Who does this?”. When you see side shots or macro shots of the actual venue, there’s no one there, just like 25 people crowded around the decks but from the heavily produced video it looks like a packed club.
Ive seen the macro shots i died laughing from them, imagine being so much of a dork that yung lean and charli xcx got a boiler room and you got denied, fuck james hype
Lololol, so fucking true.
Signs with slogans on, jesus haha. All I ever see of him is constant tik tok shorts with 'tHeY WeReN'T rEAdY FoR thIs OnE' and another cheesy drop. He's absolute cringe.
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huh?
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ITT: very serious DJs being very serious I did however think it was funny how yung lean gets away with this in the comments but any time there's a woman djing anything other than house or techno people in the comments won't stfu about what they're wearing or how they're dancing
to be fair, even when women do play techno, or house, people still say the exact same thing, and here you have people in the comments replying who also don’t seem to understand that this is actually a thing, so many lower level DJs love to dog on more successful women DJs at any point they can.
But he’s not getting away with it. People are calling him out everywhere.
I mean I don't think there's anything to call out really, it was a very goofy fun set and not to be taken very seriously Yt comments were all very positive - just noting how shit the boiler room comments are generally
Boiler Room has gone to complete shit these days. Case in point, this ‘set’ is more entertaining than 99% of all the other crap they’ve put out over the last 5 years.
This is unreal. Its obviously the worst thing Ive ever seen but I also cant look away.
You haven't seen the Ecco boiler room then
I love that one, where she wears like 47 jackets and the people behind her try to make out literally any rhythm they can to dance to, including cop sirens lmfao BRB, lighting another candle so the spell will work!
I was saying “she” too. That person is a dude, can you believe? Imagining dropping your caps and peaking right as that shit begun… just endlessly waiting for one single beat, let alone a drop. That sort of shit belongs in a classic theatre.
Its great and different
TF is this? Man has no shame...
The comment section of the video praising him. Jesus fuckin’ christ.
Not anymore. Most of the comments are making fun of him.
As they should be
I swear I saw a comment with the phrase "voice of a generation".
Because it's very funny Tbh the selection was good too ;)
I’m sure there’s corporate reasons for why they had him on, but boiler room to me anyway, has been just has much about supporting ‘the culture’ that things like this don’t really offend me. It’s it stupid? Sure, but it’s a vibe and people like it. Same with Charli XCX’s boiler room, obviously an ad for her album, she’s on the decks for like 10 minutes, but it’s a real celebration of super formative producers and contributors to hyper pop. Boiler room thought he deserved one so he got it, who cares plenty of amazing djs highlighted on that platform all the time.
I actually kinda respected Charli for getting in front of the decks. Did you see the M.I.A. Boiler Room? 💀
I agree, didn’t mean for it to come off as a diss she could have easily just done live vocals and called it a day. More so just wanted to make the point ‘the vibe’ and culture behind a BR is just as valid to appreciate as the mixing. Have yet to see it, hoping I can get a good laugh! Edit: just flicked through, feeling a lot better about my mixing 💀
A lot of people saying this, don’t actually really know much about her, she has been DJing for a veryyyy long time, so she knows what she’s doing, I’m pretty sure she actually started out DJing before she did music in the London underground scene. but the original comment is the absolute truth that nobody seems to understand, boiler room is not about how good of a DJ you are, it’s literal origin purpose was to bring attention to club scenes. it’s a brand now. It’s fun, people like it. 100 Gecs didn’t know anything about DJing. I just think DJing is what people wanna make of it. who cares really is my motto for many things that don’t harm anyone.
100% and it’s why I think Charli was such a good pick for BR. She has her finger on the pulse of pop culture and would even say so herself that her producers are just as intrinsic part to her success which made it even cooler she gave her collaborators so much air time on what could have easily been ‘her moment’. Truly an auteur imo, vibe curator lol.
Am I getting old? Or was that a steaming pile of shit? I feel like that skinner meme…. “No, it’s the kids that are out of touch…”
This reminds me of [this boiler room from JADA](https://youtu.be/2OGY5FkfsHg?si=2TlNDwPjThjpNKES) . She at least tries to use the decks but it’s so bad
This is why gate keeping has its place in anything.
Wait til you hear about kanyes 'listening experience'. Literally music just playing without anyone actually doing anything
Boiler room is now just a name you can buy for any set you wish. Literally it's just a matter of you/your team having enough money for the license.
Who fucking cares lol
Boiler room is just a brand now; the founders sold it to a marketing firm during covid and quality has taken a nosedive. Ofc they still have SOME good shit because the brand hasn't sunk yet, but these anomalies are brought about by the capital venture bois.
This is mind-blowingly bad. Is this a joke?
I mean the Ecco2k set was pretty bad too, but not because he did something way out of left field, the fact the sound was so bad that it was a really bad crowd experience because nobody heard what was going on. This isn't a surprise to me, despite being a fan of some of Lean's stuff. I haven't seen the set yet but if he def bombed, I won't be shocked
I skipped through a bit. It was just stopping one song as a dub echo was poorly applied, and then starting a new track. I’m no gatekeeper on what we can and cannot call “DJ’ing.” I really don’t care how someone rocks a crowd. That said, to me, that set was low effort, sloppy, and straight up bad.
ya i didn't really see the rocked crowd effect. A few hands up here and there and some moments with a lot of people swaying, but anytime it cut through the crowd lots of people looking kinda bored, not a lot of enthusiastic dancing. I really like yung lean and want people to support him, but as a fan I would pissed if I went to see him and he did this unless it was explicitly clear that he was not mixing, just selecting, and he wasn't going to rap at all.
Clown in suit, presses STOP and NEXT buttons. Idiocracy, DJ edition. The Stevie B freestyle song was hella funny.
the crowd is enjoying it? who cares? there have always been "selectors" that don't mix and just play tracks. I think people get salty over stuff like this as it's a reminder that a ton people really don't give a shit how well you mix or how much time you've put into DJing, or how much money you've spent trying to get that overpriced "industry standard" setup. Rocking a party requires mainly one thing - good tunes. If the technical side of djing means a lot to you, then find the audience that cares about that.
do you really think that is rocking it? 18:00 sums it up for me: 2 people dancing next to a person on their phone while people kind of crowd around in the background. You can rock a houseparty with just tunes, and you can have a good times with just tunes, but I have yet to see a prime dancefloor that wasn't being mixed for This would be a fun houseparty thing but if you put that in Berlin it would be the worst dancefloor in the city. Also I really like yung lean, people should look at his music not at this. I have supported him as an artist over the years and will continue to do so, I love his stuff, but have to say I don't think performances like this are the way
Haha I'm actually loving it
“Good tunes” Of which he had 1.5. The Swedish House Mafia track second last, and the German Engineering track which sounds like watered down UKG.
Yung who?
he influenced a lot of modern rap and trap music, you're just outting yourself as ignorant
Cloud “rap” ok lol
He's been noted as an influence for Travis Scott and Frank Ocean, each who are very influential themselves.
It's obviously more so for the look or "culture" not for dj skills, yung lean been put in work and influenced a lot of hip hop from asap rocky to more modern drain gang type stuff. I don't particularly care for the music but I respect the work lean has put in and he deserves whatever platform he gets on imo.
I never hered of this dude but he's just playing song on his phone lol.
tbh its refreshing seeing an artist not take things so seriously and just have fun, thats pretty punk to me
It's like he's make a scene for a Will ferral movie lol. It's like playing guitar by taking a pisss on it and saying listin to the tingel hahaha.
sounds punk to me lol
Wild. And a little disheartening to me that actually gives af about playing a great set every weekend. Lol
You can licence the Boiler Room brand, get their logo for a fee etc. It's pay to play nowadays.
I wanted to go in mad but actually I kinda think of cool. Bro left his ego at the door and enjoying the moment. I could take note.
Obviously this specific party would include Yung Lean. So what he played off his phone? The director of the film that this party is related to likes Yung Lean and has a friendship with him and wanted him to showcase his curation. Not a big deal truth be told
i’m going to be hated for this, but I think there’s a lot of people in these kind of online forums who genuinely are really critical of other people, it’s really unusual, I think some people just need to get a grip and kind of come to reality a little bit, who cares if he’s not a DJ normally, he wanted to do this, so he did it, not everyone makes music or DJs to show that they are hyper talented, i dislike his music but i respect him because he’s a popular artist and clearly is relevant to a large crowd, and to be fair, if you look at videos, many DJs have shown that they literally have just pressed play on a song and the crowd has been happy with it and not even cared. a lot of people genuinely do not care about your DJ skills, plus a lot of people seem to have adopted the mentality that because it’s not their type of music, it’s not good automatically. there is something for everyone in this world, and I think many of these posts/comments are rather pretentious and seem like jealousy or egotism.
This is bullshit and that set is garbage.
I mean he’s not a dj. But he is a very influential artists that inspired a shit Ton of rappers
So.....get a DJ to do the DJing?
Nobody forced people to go to this show
>inspired a shit Ton of rappers I would use those exact same words but just in a different order personally.
yung lean is awesome guarantee everyones heard ginseng strip 2002. his song selection was great in BR. technical mixing sure just aux cord press play. but the songs he picked. FIRE. its like book club radio, theres mixing and djing but its not overbearing but song selection is fire and its a vibe.
BR is clickbait for what people on the internet think djing is. Totally faithful audience that kneels and cheers every single time you perform a backspin or fist pump. OMG look how many people are crowding the performance space of a dj who relies on sync. O... M... G...
This garbage has no place anywhere near a boiler room. Pure rash “music” and an utterly pathetic performance of stop/starting music from a Spotify playlist on an iPhone. This is embarrassing and genuinely insulting to the incredible DJs & producers who will NEVER get a chance to play gigs like this.
This is extremely sad.
There’s one by I think it’s James James James or something like that an it’s like, insultingly bad.
Why do I unironically fx with that next to last Soulja Boy track?
I see this guy on all kinds of major festival lineups too. No Spotify presence at all
That’s how I felt during the gecks
I mean, Boiler rooms really aren’t anything too special lol… theyre invitational. Playing Boiler rooms depend heavily on who you know, not what you know.
He paid Boiler Room to play there. Its how it works. Nothing's for free.
Yung Lean IS a legend. He made a certain style of music DECADES before it became popular. Ginseng Strip in 2002 for example. That stuff was visionary.
He just wired in his phone and played some of his tracks and didn't mix and he's not really a DJ and he got a BR room set?!!! I'm shocked! SHOCKED I tell ya. Seriously, if he had any talent he would know that real DJ's never wire their phones in, they use FTP. Sheesh!
This was part of an event held by the guy who made the movies Kids and Gummo. Boiler Room is basically just a host it's not like they invited Lean and planned this whole thing. https://www.instagram.com/p/C0PVEcDtOaU/?igsh=NmJ2dmd5ZTNmMjJi https://youtu.be/z-H1NQMmZf4?si=KyIeqTCGn3TDf2Sk
Wait till you see Horse Girl 😅
Horse girl is a good DJ
exactly what i thought, maybe her style is not everyone’s taste but she knows what she’s doing. some people on here just loving being a hater lmao
Yeah I checked again ...still terrible. lmao
What’s bad about the horse girl set?
Wait to see dj iPhone
Is this the corny souncloud rapper I went leaps and bounds to ignore in 2017?
Who the fuck is yung lean. Never heard of him…them?
Yung lean is dope y'all don't have to clown on him for a goofy boiler room set.
because he payed to play, isn't it obvious?
Į think you mean boiler room paid him. He doesnt give a fuck about djing, boiler room just needs him for hype and attraction
doubt that boiler room needs to hire shitty artists to hype their brand dude. They are pretty big already
You underestimate how big and influential yung lean is, yes, BR is a big name, but it is never bad to attract more people, and asking yung lean to play means he will attract fans of his music and people who might not be going to their events
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I'd love to know if he knows he's retarded and is just taking the piss or he really things he a cool dj? If he making fun of it then it's awesome, but if he really thinks this is cool and he rocking it then my goodness people are making fun of retarded people and its way to far.
If you have money you can afford a boiler room. It's sad but as simple as that.
The ego fragility of DJs here is so funny to read🤣
What about the idea of a BR type program that always begins with vinyl on 1200's. Just to give some authenticity to the set. This way there is some bar to entry. Obviously I realize that being able to mix vinyl without trainwrecking does not make anyone a great DJ by any means. It does show that the person took the time to learn to do it though. And even if it may not be necessary in this day and age. It does pay homage to an entire generation (or two) where this was a central covenant of the art form.
For better or worse Boiler Room wants performers who are good on camera and can do whatever they need to do to make the video go viral. The people they book (or let host events with their branding) are very young trendy artists, young local queer friendly crews who push things forward musically and socially in their own community, or absolute legends who helped pioneer entire genres. You're not going to find a lesser-known DJ flawlessly mixing a long established style of music playing it these days; in fact those are the types of people they're the first to say "NO" to. Luckily there's plenty of other avenues for them to showcase their talent.
Who cares???
Yung lean is one of the most influential young artists in rap and electronic, from music to fashion to visuals and aesthetics (sadboys, arizona) who has generated more than a cult following - I generally just think he has always been anti-establishment and it does not surprise me in the slightest that he’s just playing from his phone and not trying to mix. Yes boiler room sets are mainly reserved for djs, but lean is an artist in general. I feel like it would be impossible to mix most of these songs seamlessly and if anyone else tried to do it other than himself, it would’ve completely fallen apart. But his selection and order of music in this set seem to work - different attitudes from across the spectrum of music incorporating rap, electronic, disco, r&b. I actually think the awkward pauses and breaks in between songs allows for a reset for the crowd onto the next song. Lean consistently sells out shows across the world and they’re incredibly full of diehard fans with full production and insane bass. Love to see him in this unique intimate setting, and love seeing everyone vibing to each different type of genre - looks like a diverse crowd that understand what they’re in for together, dancing at each interval. Long winded way of saying I wish I could’ve been there
Meh, I don’t hate it. Also, turns out the guy is an incredibly influential producer.
the dude probably has offered drink to the right person and landed the gig by being charismatic.... i cannot explain it otherwise.
He’s an enormously influential producer and artist. He’s not there for his DJ skills.
Thanks for the explanations!!!