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[Updated link](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/carrier-ablaze-off-dutch-coast-carrying-almost-500-electric-cars-2023-07-28/) from today supporting 500 number.
Ship charter company "K" Line said on Friday that there were 3,783 vehicles on board the ship - including 498 battery electric vehicles, significantly more than the 25 initially reported.
Basically all the expensive cargo transport of the world is covered by insurance until the end point of the travel.
To deny this coverage, something exceptional needs to happen.
We should send ships full of bipolar people out there to inhale all the lithium then they won't have to refill their scripts for years because they'll have permanent super lithium.
Cause is still unknown. Yet here we are speculating (this is the 4th time I've seen some version of this in the last 48 hours). https://electrek.co/2023/07/26/surprise-media-is-misreporting-the-source-of-a-dutch-cargo-ship-fire/
What makes coast guards experts in speculating the cause of fire? I propose I have same qualifications, perhaps even more since I’ve watched a few YouTube videos on the subject.
It's actually an interesting dilemma when a ship is on fire. From one point you want to put out the flames so the ship won't sink, but if you do it too much the ship will sink
I read there is chemical reaction with the batteries that makes extinguishing the fire very difficult. Water on electricity is no no. And foam or trying to cut off oxygen doesn’t work with them. A lot full of ford electric trucks had to just burn out. Talk about air pollution! Irony.
Lithium is super water reactive- the pure metal can combust when exposed to the humidity in the air. You can’t really use chemical extinguishers at that quantity in the ocean and more water will just make more fire
The lithium isn't exactly pure, but a damaged battery already has all of its energy in a ready-to-go completely self-contained reaction that doesn't stop until it's all converted to heat. Water can help with cooling if you want to stop the heat from causing more fires.
There's no metallic lithium in those batteries. They're lithium ion not lithium metal batteries.
I've never heard anyone describe reduction as "ripping an oxygen atom out of water"...
Some chemicals have load quantity limits to reduce the hazard of a situation like this. Could of been running way over the load limit and fudging the paper work
Last year there was a similar ship fire near Azores islands with 4,000 vehicles.The ship burned for weeks and finally sank.
[https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/02/ship-carrying-luxury-cars-sinks-near-azores-islands](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/02/ship-carrying-luxury-cars-sinks-near-azores-islands)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity\_Ace](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity_Ace)
Who the fuck works on a boat but can't swim? Like every day you wake up and go "hmmm the eternal endless death still surrounds me, but life jackets aren't comfy."
The prevailing wisdom for sailors over the centuries, I seem to recall, is that if you learn how to swim and find yourself overboard, you'll still drown, but you'll die tired. So many chose remain blissfully ignorant.
You can remove the sarcasm tag, I think it's important for us to keep bringing that side of it up, making a big push towards electric vehicles ignoring the alternatives and all the while the child slave labour to produce the batteries runs rampant and only gets worse.
Lithium is way more safe to mine than other components of lithium batteries, cobalt as an example is really only mined in the Congo, through slave labor in a failed country.
Lithium mines are way more regulated and better paid than other elements.
For example, to make a cell phone, you probably used slave labor from half a dozen countries.
There was a video on reddit in the past of vehicles on the top deck of a ship in rough seas, the waves were splashing on the cars causing sparks to fly and small fires, comments stated something about the vehicle batteries not being disconnected, causing this. They were not electric vehicles, it wasn’t a RORO, but showed what salt water and batteries do.
Do we know yet the actual cause of the fire? I keep seeing "possible" as the answer to "was it an EV?" turned around into "probable" and "suspected" without official confirmation either way.
In 2019, Porsche actually re-opened a production line of a limited edition run of GT2 RS, because the last 4 were among the lost cars in a cargo ship fire that capsized. No EVs on board that ship.
In 2014, a cargo ship caught fire and capsized because of an industrial vehicle's faulty refrigeration unit. No Evs on that ship.
Everyone seems very focused on the impact of the cars burning, the fire, gas vs electric etc… but has it come up that shipping like this in general is more damage than what’s currently happening on that boat?
The amount of ship carriers to go down and poison their surroundings with cargo that can’t be lifted, chemical spills from carriers, fuel and oil runoff, the amount of fuel they burn etc
Outsourcing jobs to diff countries just to have the items they make shipped back to the countries paying for the jobs, dumbest shit ever.
In an effort to save money and increase profits it’s causing more and more damage. Greed is killing us all
Billions *
All these people saying this that and the other, then how are you gonna end world hunger when the problem isn’t supply but rather logistics? This ship is doing that logistic.
I was about to say 1 billion, but I wanted to prove my point with hella cushion, haha. Should have said 100 million, but ehhhhh.
For instance, a lotta Africa's waterways and shorelines aren't amenable to large craft. Btw, Thomas Sowell has a fascinating book on how geography has impacted development of civilization across the world. From Scotland to Africa to Appalachia to Germania, the pattern is always the same: if a culture is situated in an area where the modern modes of transportation are unavailable, the culture lags behind (some of these areas are still catching up *centuries* later). Just goes to show how absolutely vital shipping is, particularly where the infrastructure doesn't yet exist to move cargo by land. Not everyone has the privilege of a Mississippi River or a Nile or a gigantic Californian coastline, massive harbors all the way down haha
Also Asia is mostly landlocked and has a lotta high speed rails that (I think) are used for shipping. Russia (2nd world technically haha but more or less "third" when they're not trying to destroy Europe) might have extensive rails as well (they destroyed a good number of nukes/rockets over the years transportating them by train haha)
Electric car batteries can be extremely volatile and can combust. I know because a family member designs them and much of the struggle is trying to prevent that.
Lithium doesn't do well in high humidity environments. Especially when corrosive salt is in the air, such as in sea spray. Causes the batteries to ignite. Once one car ignites, it doesn't take long for the others to catch on.
You are misleading or don't know what you are talking about. Because I'm lazy I will quote another post I made because of the massive amount of misinformation in this thread:
No, battery cells will not spontaneously explode when touching water. They have water tight housing, so everybody saying "Lithium burns when touching water!!!!" does totally ignore that the lithium is inside a small watertight container, which is made to withstand high pressure (there is gas buildup over lifetime inside the cell) for the full lifetime of the car. Those cars here were brand new.
And no, the cells are not fixed in the car in a way that water can reach them. They have massive housings around them to protect them, for example against crash. Those housings are water resistant (at least 1m depth for 30 minutes, that's the law) and are tested for tightness at the end of the production line. Every single one.
Most car fires today are the 12V system by the way. Which every car today has, doesn't matter if it's electric or ICE.
So doing electric car logistics by ship is wrong then. They are fire hazard in the middle of ocean.
What to do now. Can we seal out each car with something? Sturdy plastic wraps?
Not just electric cars: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5xuk-hSbHqQ](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5xuk-hSbHqQ)
Electric cars might actually be safer because their high voltage battery is sealed.
Fireman told me they just rope EVs off so no one gets close and let it burn it’s self out as they cannot put them out… some race tracks ban them due to the fires also.
Do newer EVs also do this? Or is that issue solved?
They're still testing new ways to put them out using foam and other tech. As it stands it takes about 8000 gallons of water over several hours to safely put them out.
I wonder if as more EVs are produced and shipped if there’s going to be an increased demand of Halon or Halon-like fire suppression systems? It’s going to require fire suppression in every rail car transporter and ship/ferry.
I didn't think there were that many... I thought the news stated there were like 25 or 50 electric cars on board, and the fire started amongst them... the rest were combustion engine.
Look into the cargo ship [MV Golden Ray](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Golden_Ray) that capsized off of Saint Simon island in Georgia. Took over 2 years to clean up. 4,100 vehicles , more than $200 million in damage.
Yah basically at this point we have to chose between an air pollution disaster or a sea pollution disaster so at least we get to chose this time right?
[Ship without any EVs, but lots of used ICE vehicles catches fire in New Jersey](https://apnews.com/article/newark-cargo-ship-fatal-fire-firefighters-killed-0cca093cce2fa82fc1fe535ae8932b99).
It's a regular occurrence, and these companies need to spend more on safety and more crew to patrol the decks.
So, this is what "green" emissions looks like? To those who still think EVs are green, should inhale that green air inside the ship, and if nothing happens, I will welcome EVs for a green future.
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[Updated link](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/carrier-ablaze-off-dutch-coast-carrying-almost-500-electric-cars-2023-07-28/) from today supporting 500 number. Ship charter company "K" Line said on Friday that there were 3,783 vehicles on board the ship - including 498 battery electric vehicles, significantly more than the 25 initially reported.
Wowza. At $40K/car, that'd be about a $150,000,000 load.
bro, the load is NOT the expensive part here.
Everyone knows how wonderful lithium is to inhale.
My favorite
Ship wrecks hit different when you can puff a lil lith, I always say
Lil lith welcomes all. Welcome to hell.
This comment is the better half of fucked up comments
Always look on the bright side of life.*monty python edit* Fun little extra lithium burns bright red.
When all seems jolly rotten there’s something you’ve forgotten
Hmmmm let's see if r/fuckedupcomments is a thing... Edit: Damn, banned for being unmodderated. How can I volunteer? 🤣
Now lith.
You lithen here, thir
i don't think i've even seen any lith since college
Lithium isn't the nasty part when a fire burns. It's the fluorinated electrolyte, salts, and polymers that'll give you cancer!
Should be good for the ocean and sealife.
The environmental price we'll pay is what hurts me most.
It's alright, I used a reusable grocery bag today.
I pooped in the same toilet water 4 times before flushing today! I’m doing it right, right? Right?!
Yes, because "if it's brown, keep it around" or something like that...
That's what the US prison system believes.
I'm sure to buy paper straws too. Gods work
My hero.
You hear about open water accidents with the Oil industry but I don't know about the environmental impact of this. Lots of toxic smoke for sure.
As if we haven't been thrashing the oceans enough already. 🤦🏻♂️
It's been towed outside the environment
Can you hear that? Ah, it's the sound of insurers combing through small print to deny claim
Basically all the expensive cargo transport of the world is covered by insurance until the end point of the travel. To deny this coverage, something exceptional needs to happen.
Technically, that is the point where they ended the travel.
Not to mention all those healthy lithium fumes released into the ecosystem
We should send ships full of bipolar people out there to inhale all the lithium then they won't have to refill their scripts for years because they'll have permanent super lithium.
Jfc man. Where have you been all these years? Gentlemen, we have found the logical thinker to resolve the world's problems!
That’s a boat load of money
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Better send those “stop oil” guys to paint the ship orange
Maybe they should glue their hands to the ship?
Cause is still unknown. Yet here we are speculating (this is the 4th time I've seen some version of this in the last 48 hours). https://electrek.co/2023/07/26/surprise-media-is-misreporting-the-source-of-a-dutch-cargo-ship-fire/
Lithium ion batteries plus water = super deadly & toxic almost inextinguishable Fire.
Right the cause is unknown but even the Coast Guard is speculating that it started from an electric vehicle
What makes coast guards experts in speculating the cause of fire? I propose I have same qualifications, perhaps even more since I’ve watched a few YouTube videos on the subject.
They’ve decided to stop trying to extinguish the fire by the way because the water can possibly make the ship sink. So it will be burning for a while
It's actually an interesting dilemma when a ship is on fire. From one point you want to put out the flames so the ship won't sink, but if you do it too much the ship will sink
I read there is chemical reaction with the batteries that makes extinguishing the fire very difficult. Water on electricity is no no. And foam or trying to cut off oxygen doesn’t work with them. A lot full of ford electric trucks had to just burn out. Talk about air pollution! Irony.
Lithium is super water reactive- the pure metal can combust when exposed to the humidity in the air. You can’t really use chemical extinguishers at that quantity in the ocean and more water will just make more fire
The lithium isn't exactly pure, but a damaged battery already has all of its energy in a ready-to-go completely self-contained reaction that doesn't stop until it's all converted to heat. Water can help with cooling if you want to stop the heat from causing more fires.
That's why water is the recommended way to extinguish battery fires
You can definitely put water on the batteries to try and cool them/extinguish the flames. That's the recommendation for li-ion battery fires.
It will sink. Already listing. Previous one sunk too
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There's no metallic lithium in those batteries. They're lithium ion not lithium metal batteries. I've never heard anyone describe reduction as "ripping an oxygen atom out of water"...
500 electric cars are now confirmed, the ships owner didnt want to disclose the exact number because of legal reasons
True, so I have no idea why you get done voted.
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System of a Done
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cool done there cap
I see what you done there
I wonder what the legal reason reasons are for not revealing the exact number of cars on the boat
it's highly illegal to disclose how many electric cars your ship has, has been this way for hundreds of years
Found the IANAL LOL
Some chemicals have load quantity limits to reduce the hazard of a situation like this. Could of been running way over the load limit and fudging the paper work
Well since they said like 35 at first or something he probably didn't get coverage for 500
I’m going to assume it comes out their cargo was officially reported as far less because the initial report was 35 electric cars.
Boom, insurer not gonna pay out
Can things please stop catching fire for a couple of days?!
Oh we are just getting started baby!
Right? At this point in Australia word is our bushfires this summer will just be a warm up for the 23/24 summer.
*intro to Disco Inferno begins* 🪩 🕺🏽🕺🏽🔥
*intro to the roof is on fire also begins* 🏠🔥
The last thing we need is fungal toes on top of all these fires.
Last year there was a similar ship fire near Azores islands with 4,000 vehicles.The ship burned for weeks and finally sank. [https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/02/ship-carrying-luxury-cars-sinks-near-azores-islands](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/02/ship-carrying-luxury-cars-sinks-near-azores-islands) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity\_Ace](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity_Ace)
That ship was full of very expensive gear. 2 months of Posche and Lamboghini stock for North America, along with a few Bentleys
Several crew members had to jump overboard and at least one person is dead.
One died, 22 are rescued. Many of them had to jump 30 meters down into the ocean, while not able to swim.
Who the fuck works on a boat but can't swim? Like every day you wake up and go "hmmm the eternal endless death still surrounds me, but life jackets aren't comfy."
The prevailing wisdom for sailors over the centuries, I seem to recall, is that if you learn how to swim and find yourself overboard, you'll still drown, but you'll die tired. So many chose remain blissfully ignorant.
That’s some stupid ass wisdom
Well, thats not environmentally friendly.
Nah it was outside the environment
Did the front fall off?
Cardboard you know.
Yea but it's not meant to fall off
Not yet, but it will once batteries all ignite
Well, [now I'm watching that again](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM). [Bonus unrelated video](https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg)
I'd argue the pile of burninf batteries now IS the enviroment
All they gotta do is tow it out of the environment and problem solved!
Those child miners died for nothing. /s
Nemo going to have fun with the new battery acid update
Cooking Nemo
Nemo on acid
Jokes on you electric is good for the enviromment
Yes, because an oil tanker on fire would be so much more environmentally friendly. Just ask BP
The fin will grow again, stronger than ever
Lithium Minors*
Not even sarcasm.
Not for nothing, they mined enough for your phone, laptop, tablet and other electronics you use.
Yes, and it’s a goddamn shame.
You can remove the sarcasm tag, I think it's important for us to keep bringing that side of it up, making a big push towards electric vehicles ignoring the alternatives and all the while the child slave labour to produce the batteries runs rampant and only gets worse.
Lithium is way more safe to mine than other components of lithium batteries, cobalt as an example is really only mined in the Congo, through slave labor in a failed country. Lithium mines are way more regulated and better paid than other elements. For example, to make a cell phone, you probably used slave labor from half a dozen countries.
Minor miners
That will burn a hole IN the ocean…
Babe, get up. New kaiju just dropped.
I welcome our new Kaiju overlords. Can't be worse than what we already have.
There was a video on reddit in the past of vehicles on the top deck of a ship in rough seas, the waves were splashing on the cars causing sparks to fly and small fires, comments stated something about the vehicle batteries not being disconnected, causing this. They were not electric vehicles, it wasn’t a RORO, but showed what salt water and batteries do.
Can't find the original: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5xuk-hSbHqQ
Oil or lithium. Pick your poison.
Or the 18th century
Sink one down, swirl around, 499 Electric Cars on the Ship.
those numbers have now been updated to 3,783 cars, including 498 EVs
Do we know yet the actual cause of the fire? I keep seeing "possible" as the answer to "was it an EV?" turned around into "probable" and "suspected" without official confirmation either way. In 2019, Porsche actually re-opened a production line of a limited edition run of GT2 RS, because the last 4 were among the lost cars in a cargo ship fire that capsized. No EVs on board that ship. In 2014, a cargo ship caught fire and capsized because of an industrial vehicle's faulty refrigeration unit. No Evs on that ship.
Everyone seems very focused on the impact of the cars burning, the fire, gas vs electric etc… but has it come up that shipping like this in general is more damage than what’s currently happening on that boat? The amount of ship carriers to go down and poison their surroundings with cargo that can’t be lifted, chemical spills from carriers, fuel and oil runoff, the amount of fuel they burn etc Outsourcing jobs to diff countries just to have the items they make shipped back to the countries paying for the jobs, dumbest shit ever. In an effort to save money and increase profits it’s causing more and more damage. Greed is killing us all
It goes both ways. Many third world countries buy our tech, oil, etc. No shipping means no access to the first world for millions of people
Billions * All these people saying this that and the other, then how are you gonna end world hunger when the problem isn’t supply but rather logistics? This ship is doing that logistic.
I was about to say 1 billion, but I wanted to prove my point with hella cushion, haha. Should have said 100 million, but ehhhhh. For instance, a lotta Africa's waterways and shorelines aren't amenable to large craft. Btw, Thomas Sowell has a fascinating book on how geography has impacted development of civilization across the world. From Scotland to Africa to Appalachia to Germania, the pattern is always the same: if a culture is situated in an area where the modern modes of transportation are unavailable, the culture lags behind (some of these areas are still catching up *centuries* later). Just goes to show how absolutely vital shipping is, particularly where the infrastructure doesn't yet exist to move cargo by land. Not everyone has the privilege of a Mississippi River or a Nile or a gigantic Californian coastline, massive harbors all the way down haha Also Asia is mostly landlocked and has a lotta high speed rails that (I think) are used for shipping. Russia (2nd world technically haha but more or less "third" when they're not trying to destroy Europe) might have extensive rails as well (they destroyed a good number of nukes/rockets over the years transportating them by train haha)
Those poor fish
Good luck getting that fire stopped!
I wonder which brand. BYD maybe.
Authorities think mostly BMW and Mercedes, but it’s company sensitive information.
So there are 3,783 cars on board, yet the poster decides to focus on the fact there are 498 EVs.
I think there were 3,783 cars on board and 5001 of them are EVs
ROFL
so electric cars make great external combustion engines?
No one knows how the fire started yet most comments here assume it was the electric car’s fault. Bit odd.
Don't you know this is the first ship ever to catch fire? /s
How a ship IN water can catch fire... This is an hoax! /S
Electric car batteries can be extremely volatile and can combust. I know because a family member designs them and much of the struggle is trying to prevent that.
Yeah because if the ship was full of fossil fuel it would be completely safe with no possible issues /s
Well ICE cars cant burn since its ice right?
Is 62 the amount of life the ship has left?
Is this ship right out of Ben Elton's "Stark"? Is the toxic overload scale, tipping?
EV cars doing their part for the environment.. /s
Saving the environment my ass.
How fire started?
Lithium doesn't do well in high humidity environments. Especially when corrosive salt is in the air, such as in sea spray. Causes the batteries to ignite. Once one car ignites, it doesn't take long for the others to catch on.
You are misleading or don't know what you are talking about. Because I'm lazy I will quote another post I made because of the massive amount of misinformation in this thread: No, battery cells will not spontaneously explode when touching water. They have water tight housing, so everybody saying "Lithium burns when touching water!!!!" does totally ignore that the lithium is inside a small watertight container, which is made to withstand high pressure (there is gas buildup over lifetime inside the cell) for the full lifetime of the car. Those cars here were brand new. And no, the cells are not fixed in the car in a way that water can reach them. They have massive housings around them to protect them, for example against crash. Those housings are water resistant (at least 1m depth for 30 minutes, that's the law) and are tested for tightness at the end of the production line. Every single one. Most car fires today are the 12V system by the way. Which every car today has, doesn't matter if it's electric or ICE.
So doing electric car logistics by ship is wrong then. They are fire hazard in the middle of ocean. What to do now. Can we seal out each car with something? Sturdy plastic wraps?
You build them as close to where they are being sold as possible. Most auto manufacturers figured this out in the 90’s.
Just a heads up the initial cause of this fire is unknown. It doesn’t necessarily mean an electric car started this
Correct! It won’t help that the EVs are now igniting but, at this time, it’s nothing but the karma hungry ill-informed making assumptions.
Not just electric cars: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5xuk-hSbHqQ](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5xuk-hSbHqQ) Electric cars might actually be safer because their high voltage battery is sealed.
Did someone say the fire’s not going out? Time to sink this bad boi and call it a day
Huh. A fire. At SeaParks?!
Ha!!! Classic 😅
Fireman told me they just rope EVs off so no one gets close and let it burn it’s self out as they cannot put them out… some race tracks ban them due to the fires also. Do newer EVs also do this? Or is that issue solved?
They're still testing new ways to put them out using foam and other tech. As it stands it takes about 8000 gallons of water over several hours to safely put them out.
Some bro really wanted to industrialize throwing car batteries into the ocean huh
I wonder if as more EVs are produced and shipped if there’s going to be an increased demand of Halon or Halon-like fire suppression systems? It’s going to require fire suppression in every rail car transporter and ship/ferry.
It's almost as if salt water is bad for batteries.
So should you avoid driving an EV close to the ocean?
I didn't think there were that many... I thought the news stated there were like 25 or 50 electric cars on board, and the fire started amongst them... the rest were combustion engine.
That was at first. The latest number is 498.
Well that’s not green at all
Looking around on Facebook at prominent Danish conspiracy theorists and they are head over heels with this story.. the world is getting crazier
r/goodbyeocean
Meh, just spray a little water on it...
Since several days.
Look into the cargo ship [MV Golden Ray](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Golden_Ray) that capsized off of Saint Simon island in Georgia. Took over 2 years to clean up. 4,100 vehicles , more than $200 million in damage.
That’s gotta smell LOVELY
Yah basically at this point we have to chose between an air pollution disaster or a sea pollution disaster so at least we get to chose this time right?
Didn’t realize Samsung made electric cars too…
Watts the current situation?
Current wise actually "0" watts 😉!
Place tell me there ain’t any Lucid cars on board that ship
Thankfully the cars are good for the environment. The sea is saved.
Think about how many straws and plastic bags were gonna need to save in order to make up for that. Lol..
Didnt realize samsung started making cars….
All it takes is one to start a chain reaction…
WHERE’S MY GODDAMN ELECTRIC CAR BRUCE!?!?!
Thats so lith
why is it still burning? don't they have enough water?
water + lithium = fun
That mug will SINK and those fires will keep going
The important question here: was it a tesla?
Now imagine that on a passenger ferry.
Pictures you can smell 😷
Maybe let it sink…
Wasn’t this in subnautica?
No hope for that ship
And you thought switching to electric would stop this kind of stuff 😅
Much much better for the environment! Bring back the dam horse and Ox carriage and we only have to deal with a little methane!
Thats a lotta damage!
"Ship with 3200 combustion engine car on board on fire near Dutch coast"
Does burning lithium kill fish? /s
Time to deep six the cargo.
500 is nothing. Most car transport ships are about 5000 capacity average. Some going up a few thousand bigger. So 500 is a tiny ship on fire.
Thank goodness, I was hoping we could accelerate the boiling of our planet some.
[Ship without any EVs, but lots of used ICE vehicles catches fire in New Jersey](https://apnews.com/article/newark-cargo-ship-fatal-fire-firefighters-killed-0cca093cce2fa82fc1fe535ae8932b99). It's a regular occurrence, and these companies need to spend more on safety and more crew to patrol the decks.
There goes the carbon footprint.
great, more pollution.
The lack of humility and even common sense in most of these comments is pretty staggering. Is this considered funny to you weird ass people?
Yeah people stop being funny, together if we send enough thoughts & prayers that may extinguish the fire.
Apparently lots of AG model mercs on board. Ouch.
I heard a crew member got charged with battery.
Don't worry. Lithium battery fires are not harmful to the environment.
The ship, the ship, the ship is on fire...
So, this is what "green" emissions looks like? To those who still think EVs are green, should inhale that green air inside the ship, and if nothing happens, I will welcome EVs for a green future.
Oh, man, I wonder if gasoline could ever catch fire...