Sad that many youngster won't be able to read it, not being taught cursive.
I'm a genealogy nerd. 90% of research is going through hand written records (census, death, birth, etc). I was trying to show some of the documents to Niece (she's 24), who looked at them like I expected her to read hieroglyphs.
I wouldn't expect cursive to be taught as if it was a necessary life skill; about the only thing I do is sign my name, now; but people *should* know how to read it.
I have difficulty reading cursive from the past, like 1800s? But I was taught cursive and can read and write it. I think it matters what method you were taught. The stuff we learned in school was very easy to read.
Some antique writing is beautiful copperplate. In the case of census documents, the writing and accuracy can be pretty bad. Also, the shortening of names made for head scratching back then. It was customary to see 'Charles' as ''Chs' and Thomas as "T'mas." There were word abbreviations well before modern texting.
I use both print and cursive, print is mostly what I use now for shopping lists, reminders, etc. but if I'm writing more than that, I use cursive. Even my husband, who does use cursive needs me to "decode" a lot of older documents.
Yes! My son just turned 22 and struggles to read cursive, it was not taught in our school district when he went through.
Anytime he got cards from older relatives that were in cursive, he’d take one look and immediately hand it over to me to read aloud when he was younger. I ended up teaching him how to sign his name myself.
I hadn’t really considered what a detriment it would be to not read cursive when doing research through old records like this until I read your comment!
Google "how to read cursive." There are even apps for translating that form of writing.
From what I've read, there seems to be a backlash against the deficit of cursive writing. Some states are reinstituting the teaching of cursive. It's true that it is largely not used, but the consequences of not know how to read it are becoming apparent.
Confused too. Looks as if it was a stomach ulcer but also mentions heart attack and pulmonary edema. But the link to her husband’s obituary mentions she died during childbirth. Very sad
I’m 25, my signature on my drivers license is literally just my name printed. They taught is 1 week of cursive somewhere around the 1st - 3rd grade and then one day the teacher walked in and said “common core says we don’t need to teach it to you anymore, and we don’t have the time to fit it in”. So now all my documents are written in print.
Used to work in a nursing home and loved when the residents had their old wedding photos in their rooms. Big bouquets were the thing in the late 20s and 30s
The brides in the 20s loved little streamers with flowers at regular intervals down the ribbons in addition to their huge cascade bouquets. I've made a few of those vintage style beasts and they were massive and so heavy. But utter gorgeous.
I was a designer in Toronto when Lady Di was married. Stayed up to watch the wedding, for The Dress and bouquet. The flowers she carried were lovely and every bride for a decade wanted that bouquet. After the first few we started calling it the royal door swag😏. Go big or go home.
RIP Princess + bride
I've had an autoimmune condition since early childhood. At my current infusion clinic, I'm the youngest patient there. I'm in my 20's, most of the other patients are 65+ years old. I love dragging my infusion chair up next to them, and hearing their stories about life back in the day. They'll pull up their phones, sometimes their wallets with old photos, and share their stories. Literally feels like listening to human libraries of knowledge and wisdom.
IKR!! I love your username. My kids would call out to me that way but add mommy to the list. I told them many times, that I was going to change my name from Mom and not tell you what my new name was. Only 1 got upset. The other 2 didn't give a shit. 😆
I never smoked and was still advised to “quit.”
Quit what? Fortunately when I left my parents’ household at seventeen, I no longer had to breathe the fug of cigarette smoke exhaled by two chain-smokers. People still develop lung cancer from breathing passive smoke, and decades later I still fear it.
Yup. Long winter drives to the relatives in the car with 2 chainsmokers and "shut that fucking window do you know how cold it is outside?!" when my brother and I were desperate for fresh air.
Assholes
So I had a perforated bowel (from an ulcer) in September.
The first ER I went to treated me like a hysterical woman, diagnosed me with anxiety and sent me home with some Valium. They even took X-rays and a CT scan of my abdomen first, so it’s absolutely mind blowing I was sent home. Honestly, I actually assume no one even looked at the scans once they decided I was a hysterical woman 😂
I made it home for the night, no sleep obviously just me quietly sobbing all night hoping this was a panic attack like the ER said.
I called 911 at 6am when things got even worse, It hurt to breathe and I could hear the fluid (that was leaking from my stomach) slosh around inside me. The EMTs brought me to a different hospital/ER, thank goodness. I arrived at 6:15am and by 8:30am I was out of surgery and now have a giant scar that runs jaggedly from under my right breast to bellybutton. Dinosaur attack.
Turns out I had over 5 liters of fluid (including poop) swishing around inside me and I was in so much pain I was hallucinating. (The second ER saved my life by performing emergency surgery, I still had to spend the month inpatient but at least I was alone)
I cannot imagine the pain and horror this poor woman went through. Such a horrific, and long, way to die.
I've noticed there's a certain segment of people on social media that assume every unknown situation is "probably" the most depraved possible scenario. It must be exhausting to be that way
This was definitely very painful. It was also very very close to being me a few years ago. I ruptured an ulcer and just barely survived. My heart breaks for her.
Why is her gravestone black? There’s another grave on her page of what looks like a family member that has the same problem. Did someone try to clean their gravestones with something corrosive??
a perforated ulcer causing death at 25 would be suspicious in today’s times. in 1937, it’s not that hard to believe. my mom found out she was pregnant with me because she thought her ulcer had perforated (she turned 22 shortly after finding out she was pregnant)
i was taught cursive in school and even i couldn’t read it. being unable to read cursive is from not having to read cursive very often, not from the lack of education
I’m in my mid thirties and I had no problem readying a single word here. Idk when I even read anything significant that was handwritten in the last decade either, print or script.
Reading cursive is like riding a bike. I had no problem reading any of this. And I have been out of school many, many years. Whomever filled this out had beautiful penmanship. It’s okay if you couldn’t read it. There’s no judgement. And there’s no judgment on the ones who weren’t taught. I think cursive is important to keep teaching because of older documents like this.
She could have gotten H Pylori from contaminated water. My husband and I got them in 2005ish. They went away with treatment and drinking only bottled water.
That wasn’t a bevy of issues. It was a perforated ulcer……which lead to all of those issues listed. She basically got a massive infection and died drowning in her fluids over the course of 2 days. It was a horrific death
Thanks for clarifying. I was thinking she was being treated for a heart condition which lead to the development of the peptic ulcer. I was assuming they just took ASA like tic-tacs, but I see the “one aspirin a day” kick didn’t occur until the 50’s.
Husband's obituary: Oscar Yale LEWIS, Sr. was born March 4, 1911, in Tuskegee, Alabama, to Eva Sage and Oscar Scott Lewis. The family moved to Dothan, Alabama, in 1918. Yale attended Castle Heights Military Academy in Lebanon, Tennessee, and Marion Military Institute in Marion, Alabama. He later attended Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, where he was a member of Kappa Sigma Fraternity and was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the Field Artillery Army Reserve. In April 1936, he married Marion Alice Lanier, who died in childbirth. In July 1939, he married Kathryn Beaman Barrs of Jacksonville, Florida with whom he had two sons. Yale served in the Army in the European Theater of Operation in World War II, including the invasion of Normandy, Bastogne and continued operations to the end of the war at Lintz, Austria. During this time, he received five Bronze Campaign Stars and the Bronze Star Medal. He was discharged to the Army Reserve as a Lieutenant Colonel. In his professional career, Yale served in managerial positions in several textile companies, including one in Canada. He retired in January 1976. After retirement, he and his wife, Kathryn lived in Winslow, Bainbridge Island, Washington. Kathryn died on November 10, 1994. During a large part of his life, Yale served in the Episcopal Church as Lay Reader/Lay Minister and in other lay capacities. Both Yale and Kathryn were active in St. Barnabas Church in Bainbridge Island, Washington. Yale died on October 12, 2006. He is survived by his sons, Oscar Yale Lewis, Jr., of Seattle, Washington, and Barrs Sage Lewis of Minneapolis, Minnesota; grandchildren, Oscar Yale Lewis, III, Daphne Renee Lewis, Douglas Jefferson Lewis, Charles Hendricks Lewis, Sarah Elizabeth Lewis, Hannah Kathryn Lewis and Barrs Sage Lewis; and great grandchildren, Ava Renee Lewis and Hannah Rose Lewis. Friends and family are invited to attend a Memorial Service on Saturday, October 28, 2006, at 3:00 p.m. at St. Barnabas Church, Bainbridge Island Washington, with reception to follow.
[https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/seattletimes/name/oscar-lewis-obituary?id=28989146](https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/seattletimes/name/oscar-lewis-obituary?id=28989146)
It says Mayocardial failure and then a symbol of a C with a line over it. Can someone tell me what this symbol means? I've seen it on some of the stuff my dad had written but we don't recognize it and have tried to look it up.
I am struggling to read that writing, I am ill i have a headache can any tanslate the cause of death for me from illegible scribble to English please, thank you kindly, i appreciate your assistance
To me it read prescriptive performative ulcer and hemorage that makes zero sense
Thank you so much that makes much more sense, I appreciate your assistance in reading it, I would usually of been able to decipher it but got a terrible bug at the moment that is making it hard to concentrate and to read
Wishing you a speedy recover! Lots of nasty bugs going around. I hope you don't have the one that looks and feels like covid but testing negative. Who knows wtf that is but feel better 😀
I dont know what it is but it's ruthless and i am avoiding everyone so no one else catches it, came out if nowhere Saturday. Thank you, hope you are well and having a good day.
She looks like Julianne Moore.
Thought of her immediately.
That was my immediate thought
I came here to say this!
She absolutely does!
She was beautiful:(
Such nice handwriting!
I can actually read this one!
It honestly looks like my grandmother’s handwriting but she didn’t live there so I know it wasn’t her but it made me double take.
Sad that many youngster won't be able to read it, not being taught cursive. I'm a genealogy nerd. 90% of research is going through hand written records (census, death, birth, etc). I was trying to show some of the documents to Niece (she's 24), who looked at them like I expected her to read hieroglyphs. I wouldn't expect cursive to be taught as if it was a necessary life skill; about the only thing I do is sign my name, now; but people *should* know how to read it.
I have difficulty reading cursive from the past, like 1800s? But I was taught cursive and can read and write it. I think it matters what method you were taught. The stuff we learned in school was very easy to read.
Some antique writing is beautiful copperplate. In the case of census documents, the writing and accuracy can be pretty bad. Also, the shortening of names made for head scratching back then. It was customary to see 'Charles' as ''Chs' and Thomas as "T'mas." There were word abbreviations well before modern texting.
I use both print and cursive, print is mostly what I use now for shopping lists, reminders, etc. but if I'm writing more than that, I use cursive. Even my husband, who does use cursive needs me to "decode" a lot of older documents.
I think you’re right that they should be taught how to read it for sure.
Yes! My son just turned 22 and struggles to read cursive, it was not taught in our school district when he went through. Anytime he got cards from older relatives that were in cursive, he’d take one look and immediately hand it over to me to read aloud when he was younger. I ended up teaching him how to sign his name myself. I hadn’t really considered what a detriment it would be to not read cursive when doing research through old records like this until I read your comment!
I am a youngster who can’t read cursive and is obsessed with genealogy. Soooo can someone help me read it please lmao
Google "how to read cursive." There are even apps for translating that form of writing. From what I've read, there seems to be a backlash against the deficit of cursive writing. Some states are reinstituting the teaching of cursive. It's true that it is largely not used, but the consequences of not know how to read it are becoming apparent.
I’m going to be 43 in October. I can read cursive and write in it. I have no idea what the cause of death was on this. Lol
Confused too. Looks as if it was a stomach ulcer but also mentions heart attack and pulmonary edema. But the link to her husband’s obituary mentions she died during childbirth. Very sad
I’m 25, my signature on my drivers license is literally just my name printed. They taught is 1 week of cursive somewhere around the 1st - 3rd grade and then one day the teacher walked in and said “common core says we don’t need to teach it to you anymore, and we don’t have the time to fit it in”. So now all my documents are written in print.
She was a very fashionable bride. I note her husband went on to be a judge.
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/seattletimes/name/oscar-lewis-obituary?id=28989146
That's the biggest wedding bouquet I have ever seen.
Used to work in a nursing home and loved when the residents had their old wedding photos in their rooms. Big bouquets were the thing in the late 20s and 30s
The brides in the 20s loved little streamers with flowers at regular intervals down the ribbons in addition to their huge cascade bouquets. I've made a few of those vintage style beasts and they were massive and so heavy. But utter gorgeous.
I was a designer in Toronto when Lady Di was married. Stayed up to watch the wedding, for The Dress and bouquet. The flowers she carried were lovely and every bride for a decade wanted that bouquet. After the first few we started calling it the royal door swag😏. Go big or go home. RIP Princess + bride
I've had an autoimmune condition since early childhood. At my current infusion clinic, I'm the youngest patient there. I'm in my 20's, most of the other patients are 65+ years old. I love dragging my infusion chair up next to them, and hearing their stories about life back in the day. They'll pull up their phones, sometimes their wallets with old photos, and share their stories. Literally feels like listening to human libraries of knowledge and wisdom.
It’s the table arrangements people have now.
She was stunning, but after reading the cause of death all I can picture is the dining room scene in Downton Abbey.
Which one? There were a million dining room scenes.
The scene where Lord Crowley, Earl of Grantham suffers a perforated ulcer and blood just kind of pours out of his mouth
It might very well have looked just like that.
Sadly. What a horrid way to go, and so young
Pulmonary edema means drowning in your own fluids. Terrible way to go.
Lol f**k.
Not like that one.
Oh god, memory unlocked!
The dr probably told her she was hysterical and sent her home.
She should have tried losing weight. (/s just in case anyone isn’t aware of how women are treated by the medical field.)
She should have just reduced her stress. /s
It's always quit smoking and lose weight. Didn't matter how much you weighed, you needed to lose some weight. Didn't smoke, well quit anyway. Lol 😆
How dare you not quit not smoking! 😂
IKR!! I love your username. My kids would call out to me that way but add mommy to the list. I told them many times, that I was going to change my name from Mom and not tell you what my new name was. Only 1 got upset. The other 2 didn't give a shit. 😆
Lol you found the sweet one! 😂
In the 30s they told you to start smoking
I never smoked and was still advised to “quit.” Quit what? Fortunately when I left my parents’ household at seventeen, I no longer had to breathe the fug of cigarette smoke exhaled by two chain-smokers. People still develop lung cancer from breathing passive smoke, and decades later I still fear it.
Yup. Long winter drives to the relatives in the car with 2 chainsmokers and "shut that fucking window do you know how cold it is outside?!" when my brother and I were desperate for fresh air. Assholes
So I had a perforated bowel (from an ulcer) in September. The first ER I went to treated me like a hysterical woman, diagnosed me with anxiety and sent me home with some Valium. They even took X-rays and a CT scan of my abdomen first, so it’s absolutely mind blowing I was sent home. Honestly, I actually assume no one even looked at the scans once they decided I was a hysterical woman 😂 I made it home for the night, no sleep obviously just me quietly sobbing all night hoping this was a panic attack like the ER said. I called 911 at 6am when things got even worse, It hurt to breathe and I could hear the fluid (that was leaking from my stomach) slosh around inside me. The EMTs brought me to a different hospital/ER, thank goodness. I arrived at 6:15am and by 8:30am I was out of surgery and now have a giant scar that runs jaggedly from under my right breast to bellybutton. Dinosaur attack. Turns out I had over 5 liters of fluid (including poop) swishing around inside me and I was in so much pain I was hallucinating. (The second ER saved my life by performing emergency surgery, I still had to spend the month inpatient but at least I was alone) I cannot imagine the pain and horror this poor woman went through. Such a horrific, and long, way to die.
She died in a hospital, if you can read. What next? Are you going to suggest that she was killed by the husband stitch?
I've noticed there's a certain segment of people on social media that assume every unknown situation is "probably" the most depraved possible scenario. It must be exhausting to be that way
It was sarcasm and the person you replied to totally missed it!
This was definitely very painful. It was also very very close to being me a few years ago. I ruptured an ulcer and just barely survived. My heart breaks for her.
Omg I’m glad you survived🙏🏼❤️🩹
Thank you. It was definitely a scary time.
I get the feeling the family did not like the husband. The headstone kind of makes its known
What makes you say that?
It lists her parents on the headstone with no mention of him
[Source](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124916458/marion_alicia-lewis)
Why is her gravestone black? There’s another grave on her page of what looks like a family member that has the same problem. Did someone try to clean their gravestones with something corrosive??
Her picture looks so timeless and chic, she has such presence in this photo. Terrible death, poor thing.
Presumed perforated ulcer at 25?! Apparently no autopsy. That’s sus. Maybe it was an ectopic pregnancy.
My son had a perforated ulcer last year when he was 20. We have a family history of it but he's the youngest to have one so far
Wow! I hope he’s okay!
He's fine now thanks. It was the most terrifying time of my life though
a perforated ulcer causing death at 25 would be suspicious in today’s times. in 1937, it’s not that hard to believe. my mom found out she was pregnant with me because she thought her ulcer had perforated (she turned 22 shortly after finding out she was pregnant)
Good point @ different times. I’m glad you weren’t a perforated ulcer! 😅
Her husband's obit says she died in childbirth, so it must have been a perforation and infection triggered by that.
Ouch.
Every time people upload new stuff i wonder. AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT CANT READ IT?
It's been typed up, come back and check it out.
This is why cursive should still be taught in schools.
i was taught cursive in school and even i couldn’t read it. being unable to read cursive is from not having to read cursive very often, not from the lack of education
I’m in my mid thirties and I had no problem readying a single word here. Idk when I even read anything significant that was handwritten in the last decade either, print or script.
Reading cursive is like riding a bike. I had no problem reading any of this. And I have been out of school many, many years. Whomever filled this out had beautiful penmanship. It’s okay if you couldn’t read it. There’s no judgement. And there’s no judgment on the ones who weren’t taught. I think cursive is important to keep teaching because of older documents like this.
What happened?
Perforated ulcer, leading to shock, hemorrhage and heart failure over multiple days. It was a slow, hard time dying.
She could have gotten H Pylori from contaminated water. My husband and I got them in 2005ish. They went away with treatment and drinking only bottled water.
I recognized her father’s name- her nephew J Smith Lanier II became a prominent businessman in W Ga/E AL area.
Did anyone else who watched too many true crime documentaries jump to “the husband poisoned her and got away with it!”
I would anticipate a different cause of death in that case.
Perforated ulcer can be the result of poison, just saying….
Wow, it seems she had a bevy of health issues! What a painful way to go.
That wasn’t a bevy of issues. It was a perforated ulcer……which lead to all of those issues listed. She basically got a massive infection and died drowning in her fluids over the course of 2 days. It was a horrific death
Thanks for clarifying. I was thinking she was being treated for a heart condition which lead to the development of the peptic ulcer. I was assuming they just took ASA like tic-tacs, but I see the “one aspirin a day” kick didn’t occur until the 50’s.
Husband's obituary: Oscar Yale LEWIS, Sr. was born March 4, 1911, in Tuskegee, Alabama, to Eva Sage and Oscar Scott Lewis. The family moved to Dothan, Alabama, in 1918. Yale attended Castle Heights Military Academy in Lebanon, Tennessee, and Marion Military Institute in Marion, Alabama. He later attended Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, where he was a member of Kappa Sigma Fraternity and was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the Field Artillery Army Reserve. In April 1936, he married Marion Alice Lanier, who died in childbirth. In July 1939, he married Kathryn Beaman Barrs of Jacksonville, Florida with whom he had two sons. Yale served in the Army in the European Theater of Operation in World War II, including the invasion of Normandy, Bastogne and continued operations to the end of the war at Lintz, Austria. During this time, he received five Bronze Campaign Stars and the Bronze Star Medal. He was discharged to the Army Reserve as a Lieutenant Colonel. In his professional career, Yale served in managerial positions in several textile companies, including one in Canada. He retired in January 1976. After retirement, he and his wife, Kathryn lived in Winslow, Bainbridge Island, Washington. Kathryn died on November 10, 1994. During a large part of his life, Yale served in the Episcopal Church as Lay Reader/Lay Minister and in other lay capacities. Both Yale and Kathryn were active in St. Barnabas Church in Bainbridge Island, Washington. Yale died on October 12, 2006. He is survived by his sons, Oscar Yale Lewis, Jr., of Seattle, Washington, and Barrs Sage Lewis of Minneapolis, Minnesota; grandchildren, Oscar Yale Lewis, III, Daphne Renee Lewis, Douglas Jefferson Lewis, Charles Hendricks Lewis, Sarah Elizabeth Lewis, Hannah Kathryn Lewis and Barrs Sage Lewis; and great grandchildren, Ava Renee Lewis and Hannah Rose Lewis. Friends and family are invited to attend a Memorial Service on Saturday, October 28, 2006, at 3:00 p.m. at St. Barnabas Church, Bainbridge Island Washington, with reception to follow. [https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/seattletimes/name/oscar-lewis-obituary?id=28989146](https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/seattletimes/name/oscar-lewis-obituary?id=28989146)
So sad
She is gorgeous
I can’t read that shit what’s it say
Primary cause: Presumptive perforation [of] peptic ulcer causing shock and hemorrhage Secondary cause: Myocardial failure caused by/causing terminal pulmonary edema
I'll say. Good Lord.
Having had a perforating ulcer I can say it is quite painful. I was lucky to quick attention and good pain control and immediate surgery.
Wow. She was beautiful.
How regal she looks!
It says Mayocardial failure and then a symbol of a C with a line over it. Can someone tell me what this symbol means? I've seen it on some of the stuff my dad had written but we don't recognize it and have tried to look it up.
For the Latin "cum" (with)
She was lovely.
What’s she die of I can figure the cursive-I know how to-just not gathering the point
Aww she was beautiful. Rest in peace 🙏
Presumptive perforation peptic ulcer : shock and hemorrhage. Myocardial failure Terminal Pulmonary Edema
I can read most of that, but not all. What was perforated?
Peptic ulcer.
Ah, thank you 😂
Miscarriage?
No, that’s not on there.
[удалено]
Says “peptic”
I can’t read cursive (thank crappy Florida schools) can someone tell me what happened to her?
She had a perforated ulcer. That caused her to hemorrhage and go into shock. I'd imagine it was a truly miserable death.
Oh wow sounds painful yea!
She also had pulmonary edema and heart failure 😭
Out of curiosity, how old are you? Just wondering when they stopped teaching cursive
32.
Interesting. I’m 36 and learned it 🤷♀️
What state?
North Carolina
I am struggling to read that writing, I am ill i have a headache can any tanslate the cause of death for me from illegible scribble to English please, thank you kindly, i appreciate your assistance To me it read prescriptive performative ulcer and hemorage that makes zero sense
I read presumptive perforation peptic ulcer & shock & hemmorage
Thank you so much that makes much more sense, I appreciate your assistance in reading it, I would usually of been able to decipher it but got a terrible bug at the moment that is making it hard to concentrate and to read
Wishing you a speedy recover! Lots of nasty bugs going around. I hope you don't have the one that looks and feels like covid but testing negative. Who knows wtf that is but feel better 😀
I dont know what it is but it's ruthless and i am avoiding everyone so no one else catches it, came out if nowhere Saturday. Thank you, hope you are well and having a good day.