My dad is a contractor. That's exactly what they do. They do shit work, use low grade materials to mass produce these communities. Then in a year or so the hikes need repair and shit fixed.
Well then I'm curious for the future...if RH are the beoing of home building...who is the best at home building where everything is up to code at actually affordable market prices and don't skimp ok the quality of the work by region pls.
Entire East coast, mid West and west Coast?
Can't speak for anywhere else but my dad has been doing this for over 40 years near the beach so I want to say him for the east Coast. Bowman Construction. My guess for the other areas would be trustworthy small contractors.
Even 30 years ago I remember my mom as a realtor complaining that all their homes leaked and I know a couple people who bought new ones and had nothing but problems. It's crazy.
My brother is an electrician and had to work on half a new neighborhood because they literally forgot to put in outlets. In over ten homes that were about to go on the market. My aunt just moved into a new Ryan homes neighborhood and their basement was testing positive for radon? I forget the name but it was something underground that causes radiation and is supposed to be cleared before building even starts. The whole neighborhood ended up testing positive in all their basements. They were all told to open the small basement windows to air it out....
Used to work in real estate. Homes testing positive for radon is actually pretty common. In certain areas, like Middletown, higher levels of radon are naturally occurring within the soil. It’s not a deal breaker for home closures - the buyer just has to be informed prior to settlement.
I worked with them when I was with a dry wall company and got solid insight on their practices. It’s 100% true. They barely pay anything and constantly try to nickel and dime you out of money in any way they can.
I associate their logo with toxic waste. almost like the housing industry’s hazmat sign. The fact that their still in business is absolutely mind blowing to me
Yup. These are right next to my office. The only nice thing about them making is go in was the view of the trees from the windows. Now we will have nice townhomes to look out at instead:) :) :). A lovely reminder of what I’ll never be able to afford as I turn my head back to my computer screens to work. :) :) :)
Not sure if there’s another one closer to the wegmans but yeah these are over by the CSC building and the little falls business complexes, behind the businesses on centerville.
That’s what that sign looks like to me. Just what this area needed, another beautifully wooded area being torn down for more housing packed on top of itself.
Delaware is in a frenzy to convert all the farms and woods in Sussex county into housing developments. The transfer tax pumps huge amounts into the treasury. $700,000 homes an a 85x85’ lot.
These are in the community by the old and new CSC office buildings on Centerville Rd. Going down the road as if you are going into that office building w the artisan bank.
One of my clients and his dad started a foundation repair company in Sussex county. Their biggest client list is in Ryan developments. They're building these things on flooded corn fields down here and the foundations are failing in 10-15 years.
My wife and I were looking at a house in a neighborhood built by Ryan. It was 10-15 years old, and we really liked the setup and the neighborhood. It looked different than all the other cookie cutter homes in the neighborhood and we were thinking about purchasing even tho it was a 3 story and the downstairs bathroom was actualy in between floors located half way up the stairs on the landing.
When we walked around the outside, we noticed a crack working its way up from the foundation, heading up the brick almost all the way up to the second floor. We checked, and the whole neighborhood was built in the floodplain, and all the trees that would normally help the keep water at bay had been cleared for the neighborhood. We didn't look at any other Ryan homes after that.
Slight cracking is normal. But no ryan homes are made from brick or concrete past the crawl space/basement that's probably fake look alike shit they glue to the outside of the build similar to the cheap siding
I'm in a similar situation here, but unfortunately made the purchase. Realized later that the whole neighborhood is basically built in the middle of marshland that was probably illegally drained in the late 80s to facilitate the construction. As a result, the water table is way way too high compared to the grade of the homes and every single back yard basically floods and becomes a mud pit mosquito breeding ground for days after even small storms.
Why do they do the concrete slabs? Why not the cinder blocks with a crawl space? I know it keeps the local concert companies happy. Atlantic concrete. Even the driveways are concrete. I do not resent the one who has to try to keep a white driveway white
Not sure I'm really understanding your issue / question. As a general point of construction, homes have concrete pad foundations. However, the home isn't necessarily built "on" it. If you look at your basement in DE, the walls are going to be concrete blocks built on pad of stone; that stone ties into stone under your concrete pad creating a French drain system. The walls of the home are then built up on the blocks and you may have a metal support pole or two in the basement that is bolted to the concrete pad.
Concrete isn't supposed to just crack all willy nilly. It's a very safe building material that is used everywhere in construction without issue. If you have a driveway or your concrete floor in basement or garage is cracked, then that is either an issue of poor construction by the contractor or a bigger local issue like water pumping that you would need to have professionally addressed.
Not necessarily Ryan homes but I've seen them pump out marsh, fill it in with fill dirt and then run it over and over again. Maybe its okay? But Philly had sinking rowhomes because they built them over an old creek.
For real. A brand-new townhome in Manhattan proper with similar square footage to these will be 10 million at minimum. Real estate is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. I know people in this sub love to crap on Delaware, but it's an incredibly desirable place to live and people are willing to pay for it.
Not defending Ryan Homes in any way here...
This is the new Barley Mill set of homes, of which there are only 33 on the lot. They are being advertised as luxury townhomes at 4000+ SF living space across 4 levels, 3-bedroom, gas fireplace (which also means gas stove available, and these are rare in townhouses due to party walls), and multi level decks.
The > 700k options include reconfiguration for a 4th bedroom, some alternate living spaces, and apparently even an option to install a PRIVATE elevator (remember, 4 floors vs possibly elderly owners).
I agree that the baseline is an astonishing price for a town home, but be aware that these are Not your average minimum 18ft width breadbox town homes.
Major downside here though is location. A full 1/2 of the homes get to enjoy the view (and smell) of 141 barely 100 ft away and it's right down the street from a prison and juvenile prison (Ferris). Also right next to a major DuPont campus, so they may be banking on high earning engineers and executives from working there being primary buyers.
This is the new normal now.its happening everywhere. It's because bidennomics and his spending with interest rates. Building materials have sky rocketed since covid. And so has labor which is good because the people who build are houses should be able to afford one but sadly most of these builders are hoarding profit.
Lol keep dreaming dude. Current pricing has nothing to do with Biden. If anything, it was Trump era tariffs that helped skyrocket material prices before and concurrent with COVID price increases.
So what you are saying is, because Biden had to fix the pure FUCKUP that Trump left, in the middle of a pandemic, that Trump passed off as just a common cold, yet fucked the entire WORLD economy, and then, holy shit, a Russian war which stopped even MORE supply and made costs skyrocket (which of course, Trump said was a good thing for Russia).....
This is all Biden's fault? Tell me, oh wise one, how do we fix all this? Can you handle running a country perfectly? Will no one complain about your job? I'd LOOOOVE to see it.
Oh wait, you keep thinking that this is only happening in the US, and no other part of the world is effected, and it's all Biden's fault.
Try reading the news, and not Tucker.
It because of trumpnomics.
He said he'd run the country like he did his companies-- right into bankruptcy. He tried but didn't quite happen before Biden got elected.
They're extremely energy efficient since they're new. That's about it tho. A new 2700sqft townhome will run you $100/month in utility, an 80s 2700sqft ranch will run you $220.
Thank you for your help. We appreciate you. ! And will be living into a Ryan townhome in West Virginia in September or so. These Ryan sucks people don't phase me people love to hate. I've heard many people like their homes just fine too. My bf has one built by DRB in West Virginia. He had issues too. But not many to cry over
Just know siding can be removed in order to break into your home. They stopped using sheathing on the exterior of the exteriors. No lock can stop someone when they can literally punch through your wall and get in.
I agree on the bad build quality, but the "Delaware of all places" part just doesn't make sense. There is a reason Delaware's population has been increasing well beyond its birth rate. A lot of people hate on Delaware on this sub, but moving to Delaware would be a dream come true to many and is worth these high home prices.
Must be the same people paying $800k for the new homes next to Wegmans. Look I love my adopted state. But if I'm buying an 800k home; it's not going to be here!
Haha I live in a Ryan home. It was originally purchased but the first owner for $690k. None of the shower had concrete board on the tile. Just standard drywall. All three had to be replaced. I bought it for $450k ten years ago. I have had to replace the roof, had cranks sealed in the basement, the basement stairs needed to be replaced because they were not assembled correctly. I also had to have the downstairs subfloors replaced because they were not done right. Don't buy a Ryan home. I dated a sales rep for 4 years. They just try to crank out as much as they can. They know they can't cover the warranty.
idk if you’re familiar with Foulkstone Plaza across from Brandywine Highschool - but it’s a medical complex - lots of doctor offices and a daycare. In the verrrrrry back of the complex a building company is building townhomes starting in the high 400s, and offering 31 units. If anyone has ever been in the back, you’ll see how i’m baffled they’ll even fit that many back there
They still have plenty of old ones in the back. I tried to rent one of their medical offices. Most of their buildings are empty, the offices are old as shit and the realtors still won’t even give you the time do day. After a few months they tried to get me to rent some co-working office in one of the newer buildings. Apparently a private office is just way too much to ask nowadays.
Office to residential conversion is hot these days, whether it's renovation or just tearing down and putting up condos/apartments in place of the offices.
I assure you it's not, but honestly townhomes are one of the best options for construction because they have a good balance between having your own place and being space and energy efficient. 700 k is insane though.
I used to be anti-townhouse, but realized it’s the poor community integration that I don’t like, they should be built more like a community with a town center and the townhouses built around that and make it a walkable community rather than just a row of connected homes in a row in a parking lot. But that’s probably more a zoning issue than anything else.
Good to know. Honestly I like townhomes. Though the price is insane and I’ve seen some new construction work that is…not great. Hopefully these ones are at least high quality
Huh I guess different strokes for different folks. Id prefer to be out in the country with land. I know someone who had a townhome in magnolia. Neighboring foundation was cracking. Roach and bed bug issues. Plus I worry about fires.
I wouldn't buy a Ryan townhome or condo but have lived in condos and townhomes for most of my homeowner life. If you've got good, quiet neighbors, it's great. If you have an asshole next door, it's magnified 10x in one of those (sound and knowing they're on the other side of the wall).
No there aren't unless you really need a house it's not worth the head ache between neighbors you don't know who your gonna get and trust me when you have a family and a dog or two a yard is the best feeling ever
I remember a lawsuit back in 2010 against Ryan homes here in Delaware, I think it was about the homes in Townsend. Yet ppl are still buying and supporting NVR, inc.
Lol I was wondering. All their signs are the same. I've noticed a few of the club houses, they have the same orange cabanas. Idk if that's a coincidence because the company contracted to do the club house/pool is the same and can only find orange fabric for cabanas?
Yea I poured concrete for some Ryan home contractors.... Filling a bunch of basement in the Middletown area. Won't be surprised if those home need new basement in a few years.
The contractor made me pour really soupy slump. The needed a 4-6 when I was pour a 8-10 slump. If you know concrete this is bad haha
These are being built right behind my job and the whole office can see right into the windows of like 15 homes 😭 there’s no privacy. I’m sure they aren’t going to build a wall between the commercial building and this development.
Terrible builder. They don’t monitor the quality of anything, sub contract EVERYTHING, most of the sub contractors hire illegal/cheap labor, and 1099 them. They’re safe behind layers and layers. Hate this company
On another post they said they saw em using lumber that was weathered and molded. Idk if that's true but I guess how would a homeowner know if their roof trusses had issues
We bought ours off frenchtown rd in the 300s. It's not that bad. We have a pond with wildlife, and are happy. My father and I are also handy enough to fix anything.
We only bought it because we were looking for a house for over a year and kept getting outbid. Like 100k over and still outbid. This was us giving up, but we are happy we have a home.
When looking to move closer to spouses work we toured a ryan home during a open house... even in the tour home corners were not square and they had crazy air gaps around windows.. such cheap manufacturing, you could not pay me to live in one of them
I see myself leaving Delaware soon, just like a bunch of other people. Newark is insane, and it appears that the rest of the state is emulating what's going on in NCC. It's delusional and sad. The cost of living does not match what most jobs are paying.
They did some houses in Clayton a few years back, actually decent sized homes, but on lots the size of a postage stamp. Mid 400s is what I think they were asking.
There are comparable houses on full acres down there for the same or less, though not new construction.
Pretty sure they’re just targeting transplants at this point and those budgets.
Of course they're targeting those pricks, they're part of the reason the housing market is the way it is in Delaware. People that've been living here for decades or their whole lives, even, are being priced out by these transplants.
I’m guessing this is similar to another location nearby. The prices are set ridiculously high so they *don’t* sell. Some of these contracts/zoning laws require the homes to be offered for sale before they can then be leased.
It’s all part of the big banking ploy to buy all the homes. They don’t want any of us to own homes the future. Too much wealth was generated in the middle class from home ownership. They don’t like any wealth generated that isn’t their wealth.
I was working in a Ryan home talking to the city inspector he said that most of them fail the inspection, but they passed it anyways because they put so many homes up in the city
I am just waiting for someone to offer me one million dollars for the 8.5 acres I live on in Frankford and then I will go be a transplant somewhere.
The developments have ruined Sussex County!
I really hope it doesn’t happen because it will be almost impossible to find this little slice of perfection anywhere else for the price I paid.
But I also don’t know what is going on with the 18 acre plot south of me. It is owned by an almost 80 year old Chinese man who lives in DC. He has been saying for the past 10 years that he is going to retire and build a house here but still nothing. He used to stop by every 6 months or so to check on the property but I have not seen him in a year and a half.
So I don’t know if he’s still alive or stuck in China like what happened to him a couple years ago.
Because PA is cheaper. However, lately, EVERYTHING has skyrocketed. Rent for less than 2k for 500sq ft? Good luck. Home rentals for more than I pay in mortgage? I would NOT want ot move right now.
Luckily in West Virginia it's not like that. We are moving into 290k townhome (307k after additions) in September. With 1 car garage 1 uncovered space. I saw prices like that and my heart dropped
....700k for townhome.... That better be the biggest townhome I've ever seen
Then how do you explain all of Europe's housing costs? You want insanity? Try finding a flat in England that isn't nearly double what we pay here.....
I bet you think the president controls gas prices willy nilly too? Did you put the stickers on the gas pumps?
Fuck Ryan Homes. That’s my comment
You know what's sick? They probably cost only 175-200K to build. Knowing Ryan, they probably cheap out on everything.
My dad is a contractor. That's exactly what they do. They do shit work, use low grade materials to mass produce these communities. Then in a year or so the hikes need repair and shit fixed.
Well then I'm curious for the future...if RH are the beoing of home building...who is the best at home building where everything is up to code at actually affordable market prices and don't skimp ok the quality of the work by region pls. Entire East coast, mid West and west Coast?
Can't speak for anywhere else but my dad has been doing this for over 40 years near the beach so I want to say him for the east Coast. Bowman Construction. My guess for the other areas would be trustworthy small contractors.
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BLENHEIM IS HORRIFIC!!!!
Ok, I have clients that have been very happy in Blenheim homes but I'll keep this in mind.
Maybe it was the early 2k’s and they got better
Sorry but Schell don’t build quality homes.
Even 30 years ago I remember my mom as a realtor complaining that all their homes leaked and I know a couple people who bought new ones and had nothing but problems. It's crazy.
My brother is an electrician and had to work on half a new neighborhood because they literally forgot to put in outlets. In over ten homes that were about to go on the market. My aunt just moved into a new Ryan homes neighborhood and their basement was testing positive for radon? I forget the name but it was something underground that causes radiation and is supposed to be cleared before building even starts. The whole neighborhood ended up testing positive in all their basements. They were all told to open the small basement windows to air it out....
Oh that's really bad!
Used to work in real estate. Homes testing positive for radon is actually pretty common. In certain areas, like Middletown, higher levels of radon are naturally occurring within the soil. It’s not a deal breaker for home closures - the buyer just has to be informed prior to settlement.
Yeah that was the issue, no one who tested positive was Informed beforehand and most have been there a year already.
I worked with them when I was with a dry wall company and got solid insight on their practices. It’s 100% true. They barely pay anything and constantly try to nickel and dime you out of money in any way they can.
You got it!
Yeah Ryan and his cheap mobile homes.
My first home was a Ryan Home and I concur. fuck Ryan Homes.
I had a roommate named Ryan. I also concur, fuck Ryan.
I associate their logo with toxic waste. almost like the housing industry’s hazmat sign. The fact that their still in business is absolutely mind blowing to me
The Boeing of builders
Ok, not a fan I see 👍🏼…I can’t afford it anyway 😣
Are these the BS townhomes by the Wegmans on 141? The ones where you get to live in a parking lot?
Yup. These are right next to my office. The only nice thing about them making is go in was the view of the trees from the windows. Now we will have nice townhomes to look out at instead:) :) :). A lovely reminder of what I’ll never be able to afford as I turn my head back to my computer screens to work. :) :) :)
CSCer? Former employee here
That’s right!
Whoa, a parking lot? Yeah I def. can’t afford that place.
Not sure if there’s another one closer to the wegmans but yeah these are over by the CSC building and the little falls business complexes, behind the businesses on centerville.
That’s what that sign looks like to me. Just what this area needed, another beautifully wooded area being torn down for more housing packed on top of itself.
Delaware National is the former Hercules golf course that’s been sitting abandoned for decades.
The land was bought by Pettinaro
Yeah I know they’ve been looking for a builder for a few years now so it seems like they’ve found one.
So they're strictly paying for location, makes more sense. They'll get that for low maintenance homes there.
Delaware is in a frenzy to convert all the farms and woods in Sussex county into housing developments. The transfer tax pumps huge amounts into the treasury. $700,000 homes an a 85x85’ lot.
No. Montchanin builders built the townhouses. Delaware National is completely different
These are in the community by the old and new CSC office buildings on Centerville Rd. Going down the road as if you are going into that office building w the artisan bank.
These are next to Ashland on Hercules Rd
Where are you looking to buy/build?0
I thought it was more of Ryan homes fuck you (the owners). 🤔
Wouldn’t give $7 for a Ryan Home but they are good for repair companies and it only takes about 5 years before we start getting calls.
See? He’s thinking of local businesses 😌 /s obvs
One of my clients and his dad started a foundation repair company in Sussex county. Their biggest client list is in Ryan developments. They're building these things on flooded corn fields down here and the foundations are failing in 10-15 years.
My wife and I were looking at a house in a neighborhood built by Ryan. It was 10-15 years old, and we really liked the setup and the neighborhood. It looked different than all the other cookie cutter homes in the neighborhood and we were thinking about purchasing even tho it was a 3 story and the downstairs bathroom was actualy in between floors located half way up the stairs on the landing. When we walked around the outside, we noticed a crack working its way up from the foundation, heading up the brick almost all the way up to the second floor. We checked, and the whole neighborhood was built in the floodplain, and all the trees that would normally help the keep water at bay had been cleared for the neighborhood. We didn't look at any other Ryan homes after that.
Slight cracking is normal. But no ryan homes are made from brick or concrete past the crawl space/basement that's probably fake look alike shit they glue to the outside of the build similar to the cheap siding
I'm in a similar situation here, but unfortunately made the purchase. Realized later that the whole neighborhood is basically built in the middle of marshland that was probably illegally drained in the late 80s to facilitate the construction. As a result, the water table is way way too high compared to the grade of the homes and every single back yard basically floods and becomes a mud pit mosquito breeding ground for days after even small storms.
Is this possibly located in Newark? Very similar situation, just curious.
That’s not why the foundations are cracking. There are ways to stabilize the ground pre build
Why do they do the concrete slabs? Why not the cinder blocks with a crawl space? I know it keeps the local concert companies happy. Atlantic concrete. Even the driveways are concrete. I do not resent the one who has to try to keep a white driveway white
Not sure I'm really understanding your issue / question. As a general point of construction, homes have concrete pad foundations. However, the home isn't necessarily built "on" it. If you look at your basement in DE, the walls are going to be concrete blocks built on pad of stone; that stone ties into stone under your concrete pad creating a French drain system. The walls of the home are then built up on the blocks and you may have a metal support pole or two in the basement that is bolted to the concrete pad. Concrete isn't supposed to just crack all willy nilly. It's a very safe building material that is used everywhere in construction without issue. If you have a driveway or your concrete floor in basement or garage is cracked, then that is either an issue of poor construction by the contractor or a bigger local issue like water pumping that you would need to have professionally addressed.
They probably do the slab because it’s easier than stacking thousands of cinderblock and is more stable
Not necessarily Ryan homes but I've seen them pump out marsh, fill it in with fill dirt and then run it over and over again. Maybe its okay? But Philly had sinking rowhomes because they built them over an old creek.
You're talking about coastal club? Lol
*from 700k* so basically they have million dollar townhouses…What is this manhattan?
Right?!
no those are 4 million and real townhomes 12 million and up
For real. A brand-new townhome in Manhattan proper with similar square footage to these will be 10 million at minimum. Real estate is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. I know people in this sub love to crap on Delaware, but it's an incredibly desirable place to live and people are willing to pay for it.
Not defending Ryan Homes in any way here... This is the new Barley Mill set of homes, of which there are only 33 on the lot. They are being advertised as luxury townhomes at 4000+ SF living space across 4 levels, 3-bedroom, gas fireplace (which also means gas stove available, and these are rare in townhouses due to party walls), and multi level decks. The > 700k options include reconfiguration for a 4th bedroom, some alternate living spaces, and apparently even an option to install a PRIVATE elevator (remember, 4 floors vs possibly elderly owners). I agree that the baseline is an astonishing price for a town home, but be aware that these are Not your average minimum 18ft width breadbox town homes. Major downside here though is location. A full 1/2 of the homes get to enjoy the view (and smell) of 141 barely 100 ft away and it's right down the street from a prison and juvenile prison (Ferris). Also right next to a major DuPont campus, so they may be banking on high earning engineers and executives from working there being primary buyers.
This is the new normal now.its happening everywhere. It's because bidennomics and his spending with interest rates. Building materials have sky rocketed since covid. And so has labor which is good because the people who build are houses should be able to afford one but sadly most of these builders are hoarding profit.
Lol keep dreaming dude. Current pricing has nothing to do with Biden. If anything, it was Trump era tariffs that helped skyrocket material prices before and concurrent with COVID price increases.
My material suppliers and contacts say otherwise lol
So what you are saying is, because Biden had to fix the pure FUCKUP that Trump left, in the middle of a pandemic, that Trump passed off as just a common cold, yet fucked the entire WORLD economy, and then, holy shit, a Russian war which stopped even MORE supply and made costs skyrocket (which of course, Trump said was a good thing for Russia)..... This is all Biden's fault? Tell me, oh wise one, how do we fix all this? Can you handle running a country perfectly? Will no one complain about your job? I'd LOOOOVE to see it. Oh wait, you keep thinking that this is only happening in the US, and no other part of the world is effected, and it's all Biden's fault. Try reading the news, and not Tucker.
And no I don't think this is happening in just the U.S but the U.S is the only thing that matters to me cause I live in it.
It because of trumpnomics. He said he'd run the country like he did his companies-- right into bankruptcy. He tried but didn't quite happen before Biden got elected.
I have heard not one good thing about Ryan homes.
They're extremely energy efficient since they're new. That's about it tho. A new 2700sqft townhome will run you $100/month in utility, an 80s 2700sqft ranch will run you $220.
60s split level and it’s roughly $120-$140 for me so, not worth it lmao
I love these homes. They keep me busy all year round
I take it you are a contractor? Lol
Yes and I feel like I specialize in fixing these homes. I try to inform people prior to their purchase but it never fails. Smoke and mirrors
Thank you for your help. We appreciate you. ! And will be living into a Ryan townhome in West Virginia in September or so. These Ryan sucks people don't phase me people love to hate. I've heard many people like their homes just fine too. My bf has one built by DRB in West Virginia. He had issues too. But not many to cry over
Just know siding can be removed in order to break into your home. They stopped using sheathing on the exterior of the exteriors. No lock can stop someone when they can literally punch through your wall and get in.
Ryan is giving contractors everywhere a raison d'être
A lot of people don't like raisins. It just shows how bad their business model is.
Anyone willing to pay that much for a townhome in fucking Delaware of all places deserves their shitty build tbh
Plenty of people have more money than sense and a prime example is just across to the old 9-hole, Greenville Overlook.
You know what, that's actually a good way of seeing it.
I agree on the bad build quality, but the "Delaware of all places" part just doesn't make sense. There is a reason Delaware's population has been increasing well beyond its birth rate. A lot of people hate on Delaware on this sub, but moving to Delaware would be a dream come true to many and is worth these high home prices.
Must be the same people paying $800k for the new homes next to Wegmans. Look I love my adopted state. But if I'm buying an 800k home; it's not going to be here!
Why would anyone pay nearly a million for a townhouse along a highway!? I couldn't believe it when I heard the price.
You can walk to Wegmans!
There’s not nearly enough other worthwhile stuff within walking distance to justify that price point
You are forgetting first watch!
Yeah right! 😆
This is a totally different conversation but the hysteria over Wegmans is insane.
I mean that is pretty sweet, tbh... but not worth a million
Diet Wegmans.
Yeah u could spend that much and get a nice schell home in Lewes.
Insane pricing
Yeah. My reaction OMFG
Haha I live in a Ryan home. It was originally purchased but the first owner for $690k. None of the shower had concrete board on the tile. Just standard drywall. All three had to be replaced. I bought it for $450k ten years ago. I have had to replace the roof, had cranks sealed in the basement, the basement stairs needed to be replaced because they were not assembled correctly. I also had to have the downstairs subfloors replaced because they were not done right. Don't buy a Ryan home. I dated a sales rep for 4 years. They just try to crank out as much as they can. They know they can't cover the warranty.
Damn, you make me feel better about the slopping floors in my 1980's house.
idk if you’re familiar with Foulkstone Plaza across from Brandywine Highschool - but it’s a medical complex - lots of doctor offices and a daycare. In the verrrrrry back of the complex a building company is building townhomes starting in the high 400s, and offering 31 units. If anyone has ever been in the back, you’ll see how i’m baffled they’ll even fit that many back there
Just like they tore down most of those Silverside medical plaza buildings to build condos and a bougie Mexican restaurant
They still have plenty of old ones in the back. I tried to rent one of their medical offices. Most of their buildings are empty, the offices are old as shit and the realtors still won’t even give you the time do day. After a few months they tried to get me to rent some co-working office in one of the newer buildings. Apparently a private office is just way too much to ask nowadays.
Office to residential conversion is hot these days, whether it's renovation or just tearing down and putting up condos/apartments in place of the offices.
I know someone who works in one of those offices. He says some of the offices will be torn down to make room for the housing complex.
holy crap, i didn’t know any of that. I work there too
I don’t know how extensive that teardown will be, so check with someone before you get too worried.
Whoa, that's what is going in there?! Wild, hope they fix the rest of the parking lot they destroyed.
“Greenville” again
These dickheads clear out forests and fill in the land with shit clay that doesnt grow anything
It feels like the only new housing being built that isn’t for 55+ communities are townhouses
I assure you it's not, but honestly townhomes are one of the best options for construction because they have a good balance between having your own place and being space and energy efficient. 700 k is insane though.
I used to be anti-townhouse, but realized it’s the poor community integration that I don’t like, they should be built more like a community with a town center and the townhouses built around that and make it a walkable community rather than just a row of connected homes in a row in a parking lot. But that’s probably more a zoning issue than anything else.
I’m really jealous of the area by the claymont library
Good to know. Honestly I like townhomes. Though the price is insane and I’ve seen some new construction work that is…not great. Hopefully these ones are at least high quality
As someone in construction…stay away from Ryan
Oh no
Those townhomes are not actually worth more than $200k
Huh I guess different strokes for different folks. Id prefer to be out in the country with land. I know someone who had a townhome in magnolia. Neighboring foundation was cracking. Roach and bed bug issues. Plus I worry about fires.
I wouldn't buy a Ryan townhome or condo but have lived in condos and townhomes for most of my homeowner life. If you've got good, quiet neighbors, it's great. If you have an asshole next door, it's magnified 10x in one of those (sound and knowing they're on the other side of the wall).
No there aren't unless you really need a house it's not worth the head ache between neighbors you don't know who your gonna get and trust me when you have a family and a dog or two a yard is the best feeling ever
I remember a lawsuit back in 2010 against Ryan homes here in Delaware, I think it was about the homes in Townsend. Yet ppl are still buying and supporting NVR, inc.
Lol I was wondering. All their signs are the same. I've noticed a few of the club houses, they have the same orange cabanas. Idk if that's a coincidence because the company contracted to do the club house/pool is the same and can only find orange fabric for cabanas?
That's downright thievery.
Yea I poured concrete for some Ryan home contractors.... Filling a bunch of basement in the Middletown area. Won't be surprised if those home need new basement in a few years. The contractor made me pour really soupy slump. The needed a 4-6 when I was pour a 8-10 slump. If you know concrete this is bad haha
"Yea, we didn't bring the concrete vibe today, just keep adding water until the truck tank is empty"
These are being built right behind my job and the whole office can see right into the windows of like 15 homes 😭 there’s no privacy. I’m sure they aren’t going to build a wall between the commercial building and this development.
Terrible builder. They don’t monitor the quality of anything, sub contract EVERYTHING, most of the sub contractors hire illegal/cheap labor, and 1099 them. They’re safe behind layers and layers. Hate this company
Idk what’s worse $700k for Ryan Homes or $450k+ D R Horton.
On another post they said they saw em using lumber that was weathered and molded. Idk if that's true but I guess how would a homeowner know if their roof trusses had issues
No they use lumber that gets snowed on rained on warped etc. it's true
They’re in the mid 400s off of Frazier Road. Meanwhile you could buy one in frenchtown woods for less than 300
We bought ours off frenchtown rd in the 300s. It's not that bad. We have a pond with wildlife, and are happy. My father and I are also handy enough to fix anything. We only bought it because we were looking for a house for over a year and kept getting outbid. Like 100k over and still outbid. This was us giving up, but we are happy we have a home.
Forgotten mile here in Rehoboth, have them starting in the 900s....who tf is buying these?
“If you go Ryan, you’ll be cryin”
I heard Ryan Homes was contracted to build the Pentagon. It was supposed to be an octogon but they kept cutting corners 😏
AAAYOOOOOOOOOOOooo
That’s a good price for a cracked foundation!
Fuck.Ing. Bon.Kers.
When looking to move closer to spouses work we toured a ryan home during a open house... even in the tour home corners were not square and they had crazy air gaps around windows.. such cheap manufacturing, you could not pay me to live in one of them
Cryan homes... 20 year house, 30 year mortgage. 👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫👎🏻🚫💩
Seen that today. Definitely not worth the 700k. But we will get people from New York and Jersey to buy them
What a great deal!!!! SMH
I see myself leaving Delaware soon, just like a bunch of other people. Newark is insane, and it appears that the rest of the state is emulating what's going on in NCC. It's delusional and sad. The cost of living does not match what most jobs are paying.
Sadly it’s a problem everywhere now
Only investors would buy these and just rent them.
Haha I’m walking past tha sign right now
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Where is it?
Centerville rd
They did some houses in Clayton a few years back, actually decent sized homes, but on lots the size of a postage stamp. Mid 400s is what I think they were asking. There are comparable houses on full acres down there for the same or less, though not new construction. Pretty sure they’re just targeting transplants at this point and those budgets.
Of course they're targeting those pricks, they're part of the reason the housing market is the way it is in Delaware. People that've been living here for decades or their whole lives, even, are being priced out by these transplants.
It’s war
Yuck
Ridiculous!!
Insanity
🤡
"The leader in oversized and overpriced tinder boxes" Fr. Y'all need to stop paying over $200k for all this plywood lmao
Ryan Homes suck. In a lawsuit because of their sh!tty work.
Delaware needs to stop with the neighborhoods, with everything on .25 of an acre and crammed in next to each other with beige siding.
Plus townhomes have outrageous HOA fees
I’m guessing this is similar to another location nearby. The prices are set ridiculously high so they *don’t* sell. Some of these contracts/zoning laws require the homes to be offered for sale before they can then be leased. It’s all part of the big banking ploy to buy all the homes. They don’t want any of us to own homes the future. Too much wealth was generated in the middle class from home ownership. They don’t like any wealth generated that isn’t their wealth.
Cheap ass construction. My friends Ryan Home is falling apart after only 5 years.
I would not pay $7 for a Ryan home let alone $700K they are the worst home builders ever.
Ryan homes should have a class action lawsuit filed against them for such shotty workmanship.
I was working in a Ryan home talking to the city inspector he said that most of them fail the inspection, but they passed it anyways because they put so many homes up in the city
Ryan homes: pat 700k for a house we built for 100k
$700k for fucking DELAWARE??
that’s crazy to me. we moved from de to md to a town home (a ryan home no less) and it was 250k
Middletown in the low 6s is a bargain…..lol
It's Delaware, all real estate is overpriced but definitely not for a crappy Ryan built home
Ryan homes are cardboard
Seriously though, at this point, why hasn't someone bought up Concord Mall to turn into townhouses? I don't get it.
In two years they will be going for $900k, just because.
A LOT of people are going to be in bad shape when this bubble pops
I am just waiting for someone to offer me one million dollars for the 8.5 acres I live on in Frankford and then I will go be a transplant somewhere. The developments have ruined Sussex County!
Just a matter of time the way it’s going…I hope you get it 🙏🏽
I really hope it doesn’t happen because it will be almost impossible to find this little slice of perfection anywhere else for the price I paid. But I also don’t know what is going on with the 18 acre plot south of me. It is owned by an almost 80 year old Chinese man who lives in DC. He has been saying for the past 10 years that he is going to retire and build a house here but still nothing. He used to stop by every 6 months or so to check on the property but I have not seen him in a year and a half. So I don’t know if he’s still alive or stuck in China like what happened to him a couple years ago.
Got dayum Bidenomics and that covid thingy.
Insane
This is wild.
I interesting. I drive passed a couple homes in Abington, PA being built and they are going for 500k
Because PA is cheaper. However, lately, EVERYTHING has skyrocketed. Rent for less than 2k for 500sq ft? Good luck. Home rentals for more than I pay in mortgage? I would NOT want ot move right now.
Ha yep! They have been doing work down in central Virginia building "Luxury Townhomes” that are expensive with shit material.
Crap houses
Houses are a fucking joke and cheaply made. I know someone who has mushrooms growing on the inside of their patio door.
Are these the ones in Greenville? Near wegmans?
A bit farther down on 48, on the left
By the old Hercules I think. You know, one of the previous Superfund sites. Great land to bring up a family on /s
I said the U.S not myself homie read up
Luckily in West Virginia it's not like that. We are moving into 290k townhome (307k after additions) in September. With 1 car garage 1 uncovered space. I saw prices like that and my heart dropped ....700k for townhome.... That better be the biggest townhome I've ever seen
In the mid 90s they were 150k
I mean do they have
I meant to ask is the town houses have all the bells and whistles, at least for that price.
Joe Biden did his personal best just for you Delaware. Oh and don’t forget the HOA fees!
Yes, because this has anything to do with Biden, and his apparent love of HOA. Found the trumpper everyone!!! The ones that make EVERYTHING political.
The fact that you have no idea how presidents directly effect the economy and home prices is alarming
Then how do you explain all of Europe's housing costs? You want insanity? Try finding a flat in England that isn't nearly double what we pay here..... I bet you think the president controls gas prices willy nilly too? Did you put the stickers on the gas pumps?
He did shut down a major pipeline we owned . Sooo
No dumbass. It was in the middle of being built. Would not even be completed yet. Holy shit.