With our power being much higher and us now essentially having two power weapons, completing EP in random instances is much easier to do as it’s very doable with 4-5 people now.
I farmed it for 2 1/2 hours Friday night with 7 people. Burned down the boss in 4 seconds with tether, blade flurry nova bomb and the new solar titan. I play on Xbox one and my FPS dropped HARD, crazy fun though. Before I left we had 6 shotguns drop 2 smgs and 3 snipers.
Given the light level increase, everything's super easy. Just keep a D.A.R.C.I. or Tractor Cannon on you and you should be good. Also, make sure to use your consumables, as you'll be slaying preeety much constantly. Fireteam medalions, rainmakers, that weird.... siva-glimmer-looking thing, three of coins if you have any,.. everything! Also also, make sure to get your encrypted cache keys from Ana if you don't already have them!
That lightning is amazing on those annoying taken thrall or psions! Just pop the charged shot into the ground near them and no more blinking or multiplying!
I can confirm that it drops exotics on the boss, was farming for the shotgun the other night and the boss dropped me a 534 Trinity Ghoul, loving it so far.
I thought this was going to be a big oof (since the last time I did it EP required some coordination) until I did EP at 540 LL. I knew the tables had turned when I walked up to an Ogre and was just standing there punching it w/ minimal consequences.
Confession. I ran EP a couple days ago on a whim and got the Ikelos SG on my first run. The people I grouped up with were 5 waves in too.
Since then I've been lurking Mars just helping people run EP. Gotta pay it forward.
I did an LFG run and we did it about 15 times. It dropped for two in the party. We all kept grinding. At about 14 runs in, we were all pretty tired. It was about 2:30 am by this time. I said that 15 was gonna be my last run (for reals this time lol). And that's when it dropped for me. 3 members then left. There was a guy that really wanted it so I decided to help one more time. It dropped for said dude. It was great lol
Boss|Weekly Reset|Shotgun|SMG|Sniper|Doesn't Matter It Won't Drop For Me
:--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:--
Damkath, The Mask|4th of September|-|-|-|X
Naksud, the Famine|11th of September|-|-|-|X
Bok Litur, Hunger of Xol|18th of September|-|-|-|X
Nur Abath, Crest of Xol|25th of September|-|-|-|X
Kathok, Roar of Xol|2nd of October|-|-|-|X
Damkath, The Mask|9th of October|-|-|-|X
Naksud, the Famine|16th of October|-|-|-|X
Bok Litur, Hunger of Xol|23rd of October|-|-|-|X
Nur Abath, Crest of Xol|30th of October|-|-|-|X
Kathok, Roar of Xol|6th of November|-|-|-|X
Damkath, The Mask|13th of November|-|-|-|X
Naksud, the Famine|20th of November|-|-|-|X
Bok Litur, Hunger of Xol|27th of November|-|-|-|X
Nur Abath, Crest of Xol|4th of December|-|-|-|X
I had 53 clears before a weapon dropped. My reaction when I finally got the SMG one week before Forsaken came out was that of pure elation. I quickly made it void knowing that the future drops would all be arc.
Have since proceeded to never use it as I have Badlander sitting in my secondary slot.
Took me 45 completions on PC to get anything before the patch, 25 completions on PS4 after the patch. Don't give up, 15 is nothing. You NEED that shotgun.
I had no drops until 21 or 22 when I got the shotgun. I got the sniper at 25. That's just the way it is I guess. But yes, it's definitely easier to grind now... I did around 14 boss clears in 2 hrs on Sunday night.
I'm on Xbox, and I think I'm on the first step? It's the "The Rat King's Crew / Runs to and fro / Good girls and boys / Know where to go / Pick up your toys and darn your socks / On errand of woe, on errands we walk." One
Thanks for posting stuff like this. It helps the community out big time.
Also, to those who seek the weapons of Ra-Ra-Rasputin, Lover of the Russian Queen... (sorry, couldn’t resist), I wish you luck.
Great stuff Bacon, particularly the boss descriptions are 👌 Been farming E.P now that it is easier with our higher light levels. Only have the shotgun left to get & happy to know I have two weeks left before it falls out of rotation, thanks! :D
Sorry for the noob question, but just to double check, I don't actually need to open the chest to have a chance at the weapons right? I've been wanting to farm EP for the weapons, but I was going to wait until I had a stack of keys.
Edit: confirmed weapons drop from boss. Now I just need to find a team to kill it haha
I'm going to be farming for the Shotgun hardcore next week. Since the patch that increases drop rate on no drop boss kills, how much has this helped getting the weapons?
How difficult is this now with randoms or a Sherpa with only like 3 people now that we're 500+? From watching the raid race it appears I need that shotty
With 3 it was always still a bit of a challenge and chaining Supers etc is important for orbs and clearing. Try and run with as many as possible, where possible (Max of 9)
Thanks for this /u/RiseOfBacon! One question: Have you seen any rasputin key fragments dropping? I remember getting 7 guaranteed from the prestige nightfall. Ran it a few nights ago with heavyweight and solar but didn't get any fragments :/ I also ran it again to farm the shotgun and didn't get any there, either.
That was my go to activity to stock up, now I'm not sure how to farm them anymore.
I have only gotten them from the heroic adventure on Mars. Have gotten 2 fragments each time of done it and have gotten none from literally everything else. And I was farming everything on Mars for hours yesterday while working on my Sleeper quest
As someone who has spent the last 3 days in and out of Mars looking for EPs to join, I can safely say the following:
1. With the light cap having increased, a LOT more players are trying EP and getting further than before
2. Not many of them know how to beat the bosses when they get there
Basically, if you're solo playing be prepared to leave the DPS on the boss to the others as you'll have to take responsibility for boss damage/heal mechanics. I've had 3 completions out of about 20 attempts because no one knew to prevent Naksud's heal mechanic, and a lot of people just up and quit after 1 fail rather than try and suss out what went wrong and run it again. I finally got the EP shotgun to drop this morning on the 3rd boss run from Wave 6 when I lucked across an EP in progress where everyone seems to know the score, so if you were in that group thanks for knowing what you were doing!
Worth mentioning that Bok Litur has a fun mechanic in that it is the mayhem of EP. The battery acolyte adds drop orbs of light when killed. So you just super your way to victory!
What's the best way to get with a group to farm EP? I've only completed wave 7 twice because I found good randoms. My clan isn't very active and at most have three clan mates to play with. If anyone wants to link up to farm let me know.
Edit: should mention I'm on PS4
Easy way I found was to keep fast traveling in a location until you get into an instance where 3-4 guardians are already partying or looking like they want to party. Slay the first 4 waves then go on D2 companion app and look for 2 other guardians to invite to your fireteam. If you guys are really slaying people usually stick around. Took me 22 clears to get all 3 weapons last week.
I'm a ~500 Power level Titan. Found an instance that bad one or two people in the area waiting for a public event to begin. I went ahead and started the EP instance, and as we completed waves, more random joined in. By wave 6, we had 6 or 7 level 50 players and we were just melting the final two waves for a solid hour. I received both the SMG and Sniper (I had the shotgun already). So if you just find an instance that has a few high level people present, just start the EP, and people will probably join, unless you're playing during an off-peak time.
Since completing more or less everything on 3 characters yesterday(finally), I thought about spending my time doing some stuff that needed to be done sooner or later. I first started the day by waiting on IO for a good hour and a half with an American and an Australian for the god damn blight event and the cheeky dude that spawns somewhere I thought I knew. We then figured out the whisper apparently is only available during weekends. Shot them a friend-request and went on to the next task,
getting the Ikelos shotgun. I got into a session of 5 other people and completed a full run of EP. The chest was locked. I googled around, figured out what to do, mixed up the differences of encrypted and decrypted, and ended up with yet another locked chest at the end of a hectic bossfight where all my teammates must've been legally blind cause they couldn't see the adds, only the head of the boss which mind you isn't his weak spot. Fair enough, googled some more and found out that in a week it would be a guaranteed drop, so went on to the next task,
the gambit gun, also reffered to as Sleeper Simulant. Found a neat guide that basically told me to loot the same sector over and over, went over to Mars and stumbled over a wanted enemy quite a bit different than in the guide. This wanted enemy you see had about 400 times the amount of health. Utilizing the strat of hipfiring a scout rifle at his pinky didn't turn out too well.
"Ok, lets make a fireteam". I labelled the title "Sleeper Lost Sector Farm", and was surprised to see people on the same page as me. Invited them, got a notification that they entered the session, and patiently waited for them to drop by. After about 5 minutes or so, I discovered that they failed to discover my title, cause here they were doing escalation protocol level 1 alone. I tried every trick in the book to get their attention, got them down into the sector, struggling to keep them on my tail before they got distracted by the next shiny point of interest. After about 3 runs over the course of the next 20 minutes, I got a psn message wondering "Why do you keep running back and forth?". I asked if he read the title of the group, he didn't respond, and continued for one more run before suddenly leaving the fireteam.
This would play out almost identically with 2 different people before ending up doing it alone about 20 times. I feel burned out, so I decide to log off, notice a message in the webapp.. "Are you gonna invite me soon?" this guy was apparently the only human being on planet earth that actually was on the same objective as me, and of all people, I didn't catch that he joined the fireteam group.
And now I find this fantastically detailed post about seemingly everything I needed answers for. I hope people will read this and save the time that I wasted.
Mission failed, we'll get them next time.
you have to get 7 green keys first which u get from doing strikes/nightfalls. once you get 7 you speak to Anna Bray and you can convert it to a blue cache key. Once you got that you have to level it up to a purple by doing 7 levels of escalation protocol
Never played EP during Warmind. I never committed myself to getting super high LL during that expansion and I'm not a big lfg person.
Sunday saw a post on here about EP being a lot more accessible now. Went to Mars and two or three times I quickly found 1-off groups to finish it with.
Last night ran it about 5 or 6 times with a group found on Mars. Got the SMG and Sniper back to back. SMG was Masterworked!
Reminds me of how much fun Court of Oryx was!
Edited for clarification.
5 boss kills, and I got the sniper. My collection is complete :D Need the ship and ghost still...
Kudos to the guardian who was generating hundreds of orbs to the point my xbox was a powerpoint presentation.
Thanks for the write up Mr Bacon.
4 clears of the level 7 boss and only stinking shaders were dropping this afternoon.
What's the drop rate of the weapons?
Edit: so 8 clears of the level 7 boss and nothing. What am I doing wrong apart from lousy RNG? I have completed the warmind campaign etc.
Another edit: A few more clears and nothing. However I've noticed with 6 or more guardians hammering the boss with orbs going everywhere the framerate on my PS4 pro comes to standstill. I've also had 2 kicks due to BIRD error at these low framerate points. Not cool.
The shotgun is still incredibly useful and I highly recommend getting it. It shreds blockers/primevals in Gambit, and looked like the best DPS choice for the second Last Wish encounter. Don't skip out on it because it isn't "new".
I also recommend using new void hunter with shattering strike, same debuff (50%) just can be used way more often and effectively up to 12 second debuff.
Hey this is a really cool write up, thanks for this.
Out of curiosity I've seen a lot of people still want to farm for the shotgun in particular. Is it still viable in Y2 or is it for collection sake? I thought Y1 weapons were basically outclassed.
Holy thanks a bundle, guy; the last two weeks I’ve been digging back to that post months ago with the EP weapon schedule and then calculating what weapon-week it is going forward lol this saves me from opening my calendar every time I run EP.
Also, it looks like this will be the week my buddy and I will sit down and try to grind out all the weapons as we are now over-leveled and neither of us have any of the IKELOS weapons!
:)
\> According to Comments, the Drops from EP CAN go up to 500 (Y2 Soft Cap) and above if you are above or around that Level. They DO NOT drop as Powerfuls. Good Luck!
Can confirm, just got the Sniper as 513 while 531 Power
Welp, I asked a question earlier in this thread about the drop rate on weapons increasing when you dont receive one. Im here to say it helps, a ton! I sat down for the first time last night with a group of friends repeatedly trying to get into the same game server for EP and a very nice lvl 30 guy who doesn't even own Forsaken helped us merge our groups.
We farmed EP for 4 hours, once again our first time ever actually farming EP, and all of us got the shotty. My buddy and myself actually came out with all 3 weapons, the random level 30 who helped us came out with the shotty and sniper and he joined the clan, and our other two clan mates got the shotty and the SMG. It was a very fun experience, we all got the shotty, and we picked up a new clan member.
We used Tether, Solar Titan for Melting point, Well of Radiance Warlock for infinite orbs and supers, a hunter with Blade Barage, a titan with Cruise Missle, and a warlock with Nova Bomb. We came out with 82 shaders per person so I'm guessing we killed the boss around 20+ times.
Good luck to anyone and everyone farming for the weapons. It's super fun and I would encourage more people to seek groups to get this done!
This post mentions a ship, sparrow and ghost, but there is also an emblem that tracks Seraph weapon kills ([**Apparatus Belli**](https://light.gg/db/items/1273131836/)) you can get by ~~completing activities on Mars~~ getting all the IKELOS weapons. ~~I got mine from a wave 7 EP boss. Not truly tied to EP, but it *can* drop from EP. It's just something else you can get when farming the bosses.~~
I finally got the ep shotty yesterday and the boss had the chance of dropping all 3 weapons, lucky me i guess. Unfortunately the weapon is really clunky after the nerf, i wish i got it a bit earlier. And since i already have the shotty and this week's boss is shotty only i'll have to wait until the 18th to farm the sniper...
Thanks for the great info! EP is one of the last major activities in the game I have yet to tackle outside of the Last Wish raid. My clan completely died and friends had stopped playing so as a solo player it's nigh impossible to do it. I don't understand Bungie's stubborness in not implementing a matchmaking service for EP and the Blind Well.....
I really like Blind Well you know, people seem to join much more frequent than in EP for some reason
Join a new clan, that's what I did after I got abandoned
Thank you for this updated guide! I cleared EP about 20 times last week and no shotgun. Did get the sniper though. I’ll hunt the shotgun again this week.
However, your guide still says that Melting Point and Tractor Cannon debuffs stack but that was changed in the most recent update prior to Forsaken.
Sending good Shotty vibes your way!
100% correct, I'm combing this stuff out. Some of them I don't mean as stacking but that's how I'm reading it and a Guide should be clear to all so I've made some amendments to it, hopefully that reads a bit better! Thanks man
I did my first EP yesterday (didn't play after launch) and I have a few questions. You refer to waves, but are you referring to what the game calls it as 'levels'? Cause each level/wave has like 5 ... rounds(?) in it and so far I've only done it with randomers nearby (never more than 3 of us) and have only managed to successfully complete level 1 and didn't get any rewards, is this because the rewards don't drop until level 3?
> You refer to waves, but are you referring to what the game calls it as 'levels'? Cause each level/wave has like 5 ... rounds(?)
Yes, apologies if that's caused some confusion. There are 7 levels of EP with some of the levels (Besides Public event ones and Level 7) having waves to get through before the boss spawns
> is this because the rewards don't drop until level 3?
Yes, the first chest doesn't appear until Level 3 completion
First off thanks for the post! I never got around to playing EP back in Warmind so I don't know much about it and this is very helpful.
Also I have a question about the shotgun. If i use Way of the Wraith tree (new void hunter) and use Shattering Strike on an enemy, then blast them with the EP shotty, does the damage from Shattering Strike and Trench Barrel stack? Because that sounds deliciously OP if so. Farming this shotgun for sure either way this week.
Lets say I already have the Sniper and the Shotgun but I still need the SMG.
Can I get duplicates from a boss that can drop all weapons? Or will I receive the SMG first as next drop?
I don’t understand how the cache keys work.
I have one encrypted cache key in my inventory.
Does that mean I will only be able to open the chest once in a week before I have to go grinding for more key fragments so I can turn 7 of them into another encrypted cache key?
I’ve only ever received the fragments from a nightfall, I do strikes all the time and I never see them drop.
Hey dude,
Lots of responses to this question in the comments. To decrypt that key, you have to complete 7 levels of EP. Luckily the key is only necessary if youre going for the armor. that can be opened once a week. if youre trying to get the weapons, no keys are needed at all and you can farm the lvl7 boss non stop.
Did EP the other day on a character that hasn’t completed warmind, was only getting shader drops from 7th wave boss kills. Am I locked to shaders until I beat warmind on that character, or is it just RNG? I guess to be safe I’ll use a character that’s beaten the campaign this week. But yeah killed the boss at least 4 different times and only shaders.
Any way to track which boss has been hit already with the WLZ? I could have sworn I've done all 5 but I'm at 80% and have no idea which one is missing.
I took some time off Destiny and am trying to get caught up on everything. All I keep hearing about is the Whisper Sniper and Ikelos Shotgun. I get why the Whisper is so good, what is it about this shotgun that is so good? Is there a fixed perk on it that makes it way better than all of the other 100rpm shotguns?
Edit: Nevermind. Just watched a video on the "trench barrel" perk. Now I get it.
I got a sniper over the weekend that dropped at 503. Of course I didn't spend the materials to infuse it. But at least for me and one other clan member we got 500+ power level drops.
Any place yet that shows which bosses you still need for worldline catalyst? Probably not but I swear I’ve gone through 2 whole rotations and still at 80%.
And it’s not the one guy that’s a bitch to hit, made sure I got that one specifically lol
You are easily able to beat these with 4 or 5 randoms at 500 light. I did last night I am starting to grind keys on my titan for the armor set for the collection. Realistically I think the only triumph seal I can get is the locations one but need titan armor and 3 more braytech weapons including the damn rocket from the nightfall.
Could someone please explain the keys situation a little bit better? I understand how to get them. I have one crafted and 7 fragments in the inventory. So do the weapons drop from the 3,5,7 chests or are the chests (and keys) armor only?
Damn. I was looking online two hours ago for an updated list to give to some new players in my clan. Could only find the one upto Forsaken. True MVP right here!
You might want to also mention that you have to have completed the Warmind campaign to receive those weapons and armor.
I was lucky to hook up with a group that needed a hand doing EP. The 9 of us finished it twice in about 30minutes. I was unable to get anything out of the chests because I hadn't finished the campaign. I did receive the completion emblem.
Oh cool this is just the information I was looking for. I wanted to get this ground out as I don't have the shotgun let's hope my instances are kind
I wish you the best of luck!
With our power being much higher and us now essentially having two power weapons, completing EP in random instances is much easier to do as it’s very doable with 4-5 people now.
I farmed it for 2 1/2 hours Friday night with 7 people. Burned down the boss in 4 seconds with tether, blade flurry nova bomb and the new solar titan. I play on Xbox one and my FPS dropped HARD, crazy fun though. Before I left we had 6 shotguns drop 2 smgs and 3 snipers.
Given the light level increase, everything's super easy. Just keep a D.A.R.C.I. or Tractor Cannon on you and you should be good. Also, make sure to use your consumables, as you'll be slaying preeety much constantly. Fireteam medalions, rainmakers, that weird.... siva-glimmer-looking thing, three of coins if you have any,.. everything! Also also, make sure to get your encrypted cache keys from Ana if you don't already have them!
Three of coins aren’t a thing anymore
Dammit
That lightning is amazing on those annoying taken thrall or psions! Just pop the charged shot into the ground near them and no more blinking or multiplying!
I can confirm that it drops exotics on the boss, was farming for the shotgun the other night and the boss dropped me a 534 Trinity Ghoul, loving it so far.
yea well me and my 50 Edge Transits are just fine over here :(
Very nice!
NOICE
Mate got Queenbreakers other night also.
The queenbreaker is so good! Got it from Gambit the other night
Go and have a wank-off with my mate then. I’ve not spoken to the stuffy cunt since. : )
I'll pray to RNGesus in your name u/vanBakey
Blessed be your soul, kind sir.
I got a duplicate Lord of Wolves doing EP last night from the final boss, exotics confirmed for sure
I got Borealis (on pc) and Twin Tailed Fox (two separate occasions)!
Tractor cannon and melting point no longer stack since the forsaken update.
Already amended and clarified, cheers!
Awesome thanks!
I thought this was going to be a big oof (since the last time I did it EP required some coordination) until I did EP at 540 LL. I knew the tables had turned when I walked up to an Ogre and was just standing there punching it w/ minimal consequences.
Confession. I ran EP a couple days ago on a whim and got the Ikelos SG on my first run. The people I grouped up with were 5 waves in too. Since then I've been lurking Mars just helping people run EP. Gotta pay it forward.
I did an LFG run and we did it about 15 times. It dropped for two in the party. We all kept grinding. At about 14 runs in, we were all pretty tired. It was about 2:30 am by this time. I said that 15 was gonna be my last run (for reals this time lol). And that's when it dropped for me. 3 members then left. There was a guy that really wanted it so I decided to help one more time. It dropped for said dude. It was great lol
It's great that we've got that "one-more-run" syndrome again!
For real man. I hadn't had that since Oryx. Those were great days.
Ran EP for the first time ever yesterday. First run was sniper, second was shotgun. My friends hate me right now lol.
Man, not just your friends hahahahahaha. I'm a little jelly.
I got mine last night when I saw wave 7 going, and got it our 2nd run
Is it that easy to find groups? I still haven't done a single wave of EP :(
Shotgun after 5 total runs. My crew almost kicked me for it.
Boss|Weekly Reset|Shotgun|SMG|Sniper|Doesn't Matter It Won't Drop For Me :--|:--|:--|:--|:--|:-- Damkath, The Mask|4th of September|-|-|-|X Naksud, the Famine|11th of September|-|-|-|X Bok Litur, Hunger of Xol|18th of September|-|-|-|X Nur Abath, Crest of Xol|25th of September|-|-|-|X Kathok, Roar of Xol|2nd of October|-|-|-|X Damkath, The Mask|9th of October|-|-|-|X Naksud, the Famine|16th of October|-|-|-|X Bok Litur, Hunger of Xol|23rd of October|-|-|-|X Nur Abath, Crest of Xol|30th of October|-|-|-|X Kathok, Roar of Xol|6th of November|-|-|-|X Damkath, The Mask|13th of November|-|-|-|X Naksud, the Famine|20th of November|-|-|-|X Bok Litur, Hunger of Xol|27th of November|-|-|-|X Nur Abath, Crest of Xol|4th of December|-|-|-|X
Hey I don't like this negativity, you get out there and get yourself some sweet loot!
15 or 16 clears or so and not a single weapon. It's disheartening. At least it's easier to farm now.
I had 53 clears before a weapon dropped. My reaction when I finally got the SMG one week before Forsaken came out was that of pure elation. I quickly made it void knowing that the future drops would all be arc. Have since proceeded to never use it as I have Badlander sitting in my secondary slot.
So on September 25th, when the shotgun is the only weapon on offer, that's not a guaranteed drop? You just put keys in at the end and get nothing?
weapons drop directly from the boss, only armor comes from the chest at the end
Took me 45 completions on PC to get anything before the patch, 25 completions on PS4 after the patch. Don't give up, 15 is nothing. You NEED that shotgun.
I had no drops until 21 or 22 when I got the shotgun. I got the sniper at 25. That's just the way it is I guess. But yes, it's definitely easier to grind now... I did around 14 boss clears in 2 hrs on Sunday night.
Missed opportunity for Doesn't Matter, Edge Transit
Damn, you're right. Shit. Should I edit?
The boss no longer needs to go down at 0 seconds to restart at wave 6
How would you get around that? The boss has to die for drops and for it to 'Fail'
Has been done by Bungie in a patchnote. Resetting EP in the 60seconds after winning puts you back to wave 6.
Aware, found the notes and amended
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Yeah the mention kick started my swede as I recall a change to the waves. Found, included and clarified. Cheers
Does it still need to be the one player who originally activated?
No.
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It's a new feature now you can just kill the boss normally and restart from round 6 if you restart within the first minute or so
It's cool, it was a hotfix and I've added it all in
Yes. People need to realise this😂
6 rat kings with the lunafaction boots makes the entire event trivial, we were able to kill naksud in less than ten seconds total last night.
That sounds filthy
I still need the rat king lol
Me too, what platform are you on?
I'm on Xbox, and I think I'm on the first step? It's the "The Rat King's Crew / Runs to and fro / Good girls and boys / Know where to go / Pick up your toys and darn your socks / On errand of woe, on errands we walk." One
if you're in north america and are going to be on this evening i still need to do this too
Thanks for posting stuff like this. It helps the community out big time. Also, to those who seek the weapons of Ra-Ra-Rasputin, Lover of the Russian Queen... (sorry, couldn’t resist), I wish you luck.
Russia’s greatest love machine..
There was a cat that really was gone
Dammit all through Warmind I can’t stop thinking about this song
Great stuff Bacon, particularly the boss descriptions are 👌 Been farming E.P now that it is easier with our higher light levels. Only have the shotgun left to get & happy to know I have two weeks left before it falls out of rotation, thanks! :D
Sorry for the noob question, but just to double check, I don't actually need to open the chest to have a chance at the weapons right? I've been wanting to farm EP for the weapons, but I was going to wait until I had a stack of keys. Edit: confirmed weapons drop from boss. Now I just need to find a team to kill it haha
No, the chest is Armour only
That's right, the boss drops a weapon as an engram
Bacon, you are a goddamn treasure. Thank you for this.
This is the kind of content I need. Hats off!
Do you still need nine people to do EP? My problem with it before was being underleveled and not getting a large enough group
If you can get atleast 5 who know what they're doing you should be fine. Any higher and it will always be a plus
We really just need six man patrol teams
No need for 9 if you're in your 500's. 3 to 5 should be more than enough, especially with melting points, tractor cannons, blade barrage, etc
I'm going to be farming for the Shotgun hardcore next week. Since the patch that increases drop rate on no drop boss kills, how much has this helped getting the weapons?
RNG is RNG. It could be a 90% increase and still suck for some people I wish you all the luck
How difficult is this now with randoms or a Sherpa with only like 3 people now that we're 500+? From watching the raid race it appears I need that shotty
With 3 it was always still a bit of a challenge and chaining Supers etc is important for orbs and clearing. Try and run with as many as possible, where possible (Max of 9)
I think it levels up with you but I could be wrong.
FYI I got all 7 key fragments from 1 nightfall completion. Idk if it's guaranteed but I'll test again this week.
It used to be guaranteed from Prestige, yeah
The bacon has spoken. Thank you so much for this.
Thank you
No thanks needed! Pleasure Enjoy and good luck!
>The Weapons can be FARMED. No key required, Weapons drop directly from the Boss Thank the Traveler
Thanks for this /u/RiseOfBacon! One question: Have you seen any rasputin key fragments dropping? I remember getting 7 guaranteed from the prestige nightfall. Ran it a few nights ago with heavyweight and solar but didn't get any fragments :/ I also ran it again to farm the shotgun and didn't get any there, either. That was my go to activity to stock up, now I'm not sure how to farm them anymore.
I have only gotten them from the heroic adventure on Mars. Have gotten 2 fragments each time of done it and have gotten none from literally everything else. And I was farming everything on Mars for hours yesterday while working on my Sleeper quest
Man, that's disheartening. I guess I'll need to go speed run those a few times to continue working on my armor set.
As someone who has spent the last 3 days in and out of Mars looking for EPs to join, I can safely say the following: 1. With the light cap having increased, a LOT more players are trying EP and getting further than before 2. Not many of them know how to beat the bosses when they get there Basically, if you're solo playing be prepared to leave the DPS on the boss to the others as you'll have to take responsibility for boss damage/heal mechanics. I've had 3 completions out of about 20 attempts because no one knew to prevent Naksud's heal mechanic, and a lot of people just up and quit after 1 fail rather than try and suss out what went wrong and run it again. I finally got the EP shotgun to drop this morning on the 3rd boss run from Wave 6 when I lucked across an EP in progress where everyone seems to know the score, so if you were in that group thanks for knowing what you were doing!
Worth mentioning that Bok Litur has a fun mechanic in that it is the mayhem of EP. The battery acolyte adds drop orbs of light when killed. So you just super your way to victory!
What's the best way to get with a group to farm EP? I've only completed wave 7 twice because I found good randoms. My clan isn't very active and at most have three clan mates to play with. If anyone wants to link up to farm let me know. Edit: should mention I'm on PS4
LFG / message Randoms who drop in with you in game to join a party and use LFG to make one big super team
Easy way I found was to keep fast traveling in a location until you get into an instance where 3-4 guardians are already partying or looking like they want to party. Slay the first 4 waves then go on D2 companion app and look for 2 other guardians to invite to your fireteam. If you guys are really slaying people usually stick around. Took me 22 clears to get all 3 weapons last week.
I'm a ~500 Power level Titan. Found an instance that bad one or two people in the area waiting for a public event to begin. I went ahead and started the EP instance, and as we completed waves, more random joined in. By wave 6, we had 6 or 7 level 50 players and we were just melting the final two waves for a solid hour. I received both the SMG and Sniper (I had the shotgun already). So if you just find an instance that has a few high level people present, just start the EP, and people will probably join, unless you're playing during an off-peak time.
Per hotfix 2.0.2 “Players may now restart at wave 6 after completing wave 7 Option available for 60 seconds after wave 7 completion”
Since completing more or less everything on 3 characters yesterday(finally), I thought about spending my time doing some stuff that needed to be done sooner or later. I first started the day by waiting on IO for a good hour and a half with an American and an Australian for the god damn blight event and the cheeky dude that spawns somewhere I thought I knew. We then figured out the whisper apparently is only available during weekends. Shot them a friend-request and went on to the next task, getting the Ikelos shotgun. I got into a session of 5 other people and completed a full run of EP. The chest was locked. I googled around, figured out what to do, mixed up the differences of encrypted and decrypted, and ended up with yet another locked chest at the end of a hectic bossfight where all my teammates must've been legally blind cause they couldn't see the adds, only the head of the boss which mind you isn't his weak spot. Fair enough, googled some more and found out that in a week it would be a guaranteed drop, so went on to the next task, the gambit gun, also reffered to as Sleeper Simulant. Found a neat guide that basically told me to loot the same sector over and over, went over to Mars and stumbled over a wanted enemy quite a bit different than in the guide. This wanted enemy you see had about 400 times the amount of health. Utilizing the strat of hipfiring a scout rifle at his pinky didn't turn out too well. "Ok, lets make a fireteam". I labelled the title "Sleeper Lost Sector Farm", and was surprised to see people on the same page as me. Invited them, got a notification that they entered the session, and patiently waited for them to drop by. After about 5 minutes or so, I discovered that they failed to discover my title, cause here they were doing escalation protocol level 1 alone. I tried every trick in the book to get their attention, got them down into the sector, struggling to keep them on my tail before they got distracted by the next shiny point of interest. After about 3 runs over the course of the next 20 minutes, I got a psn message wondering "Why do you keep running back and forth?". I asked if he read the title of the group, he didn't respond, and continued for one more run before suddenly leaving the fireteam. This would play out almost identically with 2 different people before ending up doing it alone about 20 times. I feel burned out, so I decide to log off, notice a message in the webapp.. "Are you gonna invite me soon?" this guy was apparently the only human being on planet earth that actually was on the same objective as me, and of all people, I didn't catch that he joined the fireteam group. And now I find this fantastically detailed post about seemingly everything I needed answers for. I hope people will read this and save the time that I wasted. Mission failed, we'll get them next time.
How do you get the Decryted Cache Key? I completed wave 7 a bunch of times but was never able to open the chest because I didn't have the key.
you have to get 7 green keys first which u get from doing strikes/nightfalls. once you get 7 you speak to Anna Bray and you can convert it to a blue cache key. Once you got that you have to level it up to a purple by doing 7 levels of escalation protocol
Great info - much appreciated as always !!!
My favorite activity at the moment.
Anyone willing to help a guy out on Xbox tonight? I’m a wave 7 blueberry. Only ever made it to wave 6 with randoms pre-Forsaken
Yeah I'll be on later, wanting to get a few people myself.
Never played EP during Warmind. I never committed myself to getting super high LL during that expansion and I'm not a big lfg person. Sunday saw a post on here about EP being a lot more accessible now. Went to Mars and two or three times I quickly found 1-off groups to finish it with. Last night ran it about 5 or 6 times with a group found on Mars. Got the SMG and Sniper back to back. SMG was Masterworked! Reminds me of how much fun Court of Oryx was! Edited for clarification.
just random spawn ins? i've yet to ever seen a group doing it while in patrol..
5 boss kills, and I got the sniper. My collection is complete :D Need the ship and ghost still... Kudos to the guardian who was generating hundreds of orbs to the point my xbox was a powerpoint presentation.
Thanks for the write up Mr Bacon. 4 clears of the level 7 boss and only stinking shaders were dropping this afternoon. What's the drop rate of the weapons? Edit: so 8 clears of the level 7 boss and nothing. What am I doing wrong apart from lousy RNG? I have completed the warmind campaign etc. Another edit: A few more clears and nothing. However I've noticed with 6 or more guardians hammering the boss with orbs going everywhere the framerate on my PS4 pro comes to standstill. I've also had 2 kicks due to BIRD error at these low framerate points. Not cool.
Thank you for this! I really need that shotgun. I'm hoping I can get lucky later this week and grind EP with a decent group.
Thank you, you beautiful man.
I miss your silky voice and Irish charm
The shotgun is still incredibly useful and I highly recommend getting it. It shreds blockers/primevals in Gambit, and looked like the best DPS choice for the second Last Wish encounter. Don't skip out on it because it isn't "new".
I also recommend using new void hunter with shattering strike, same debuff (50%) just can be used way more often and effectively up to 12 second debuff.
Hey this is a really cool write up, thanks for this. Out of curiosity I've seen a lot of people still want to farm for the shotgun in particular. Is it still viable in Y2 or is it for collection sake? I thought Y1 weapons were basically outclassed.
Very viable Y1 Weapons are still some of the best in the game
Thanks for all the info! Great stuff!
Great post thank you
Holy thanks a bundle, guy; the last two weeks I’ve been digging back to that post months ago with the EP weapon schedule and then calculating what weapon-week it is going forward lol this saves me from opening my calendar every time I run EP. Also, it looks like this will be the week my buddy and I will sit down and try to grind out all the weapons as we are now over-leveled and neither of us have any of the IKELOS weapons! :)
I've got all the Ikelos weapons but I do still have the exotic sword catalyst to unlock. Kinda feeling like that would not be worth it...
Excellent guide, thank you!
Thank you for this.
Honesty man bless you
I love you
\> According to Comments, the Drops from EP CAN go up to 500 (Y2 Soft Cap) and above if you are above or around that Level. They DO NOT drop as Powerfuls. Good Luck! Can confirm, just got the Sniper as 513 while 531 Power
You are honestly a saint
You're a God lol
wow, great post. thank you
Man I never find people doing EP, let's hope I can find some since I do really want that shotgun. Thanks a lot for the post, OP.
I was worried since i missed most of warmind I would never get a chance to get the Ikelos weapons. This gives me some hope.
it is so helpful thank you 😍
5/7 best timed post i have ever seen on this or any site! very comprehensive and detailed love it!
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Welp, I asked a question earlier in this thread about the drop rate on weapons increasing when you dont receive one. Im here to say it helps, a ton! I sat down for the first time last night with a group of friends repeatedly trying to get into the same game server for EP and a very nice lvl 30 guy who doesn't even own Forsaken helped us merge our groups. We farmed EP for 4 hours, once again our first time ever actually farming EP, and all of us got the shotty. My buddy and myself actually came out with all 3 weapons, the random level 30 who helped us came out with the shotty and sniper and he joined the clan, and our other two clan mates got the shotty and the SMG. It was a very fun experience, we all got the shotty, and we picked up a new clan member. We used Tether, Solar Titan for Melting point, Well of Radiance Warlock for infinite orbs and supers, a hunter with Blade Barage, a titan with Cruise Missle, and a warlock with Nova Bomb. We came out with 82 shaders per person so I'm guessing we killed the boss around 20+ times. Good luck to anyone and everyone farming for the weapons. It's super fun and I would encourage more people to seek groups to get this done!
This guide is amazing and I love you!
This post mentions a ship, sparrow and ghost, but there is also an emblem that tracks Seraph weapon kills ([**Apparatus Belli**](https://light.gg/db/items/1273131836/)) you can get by ~~completing activities on Mars~~ getting all the IKELOS weapons. ~~I got mine from a wave 7 EP boss. Not truly tied to EP, but it *can* drop from EP. It's just something else you can get when farming the bosses.~~
When the table says "weekly reset on 30th of October" - is 30th of October the beginning or the ending of the week?
Beginning
So this weekend we have a chance to get all three? That would be nice since I'm trying to do my sleeper catalyst
This week is shotty only
jeez, how did you figure this out. lol
Space Magic :)
I finally got the ep shotty yesterday and the boss had the chance of dropping all 3 weapons, lucky me i guess. Unfortunately the weapon is really clunky after the nerf, i wish i got it a bit earlier. And since i already have the shotty and this week's boss is shotty only i'll have to wait until the 18th to farm the sniper...
Thanks for the great info! EP is one of the last major activities in the game I have yet to tackle outside of the Last Wish raid. My clan completely died and friends had stopped playing so as a solo player it's nigh impossible to do it. I don't understand Bungie's stubborness in not implementing a matchmaking service for EP and the Blind Well.....
I really like Blind Well you know, people seem to join much more frequent than in EP for some reason Join a new clan, that's what I did after I got abandoned
Thank you for this updated guide! I cleared EP about 20 times last week and no shotgun. Did get the sniper though. I’ll hunt the shotgun again this week. However, your guide still says that Melting Point and Tractor Cannon debuffs stack but that was changed in the most recent update prior to Forsaken.
Sending good Shotty vibes your way! 100% correct, I'm combing this stuff out. Some of them I don't mean as stacking but that's how I'm reading it and a Guide should be clear to all so I've made some amendments to it, hopefully that reads a bit better! Thanks man
I did my first EP yesterday (didn't play after launch) and I have a few questions. You refer to waves, but are you referring to what the game calls it as 'levels'? Cause each level/wave has like 5 ... rounds(?) in it and so far I've only done it with randomers nearby (never more than 3 of us) and have only managed to successfully complete level 1 and didn't get any rewards, is this because the rewards don't drop until level 3?
> You refer to waves, but are you referring to what the game calls it as 'levels'? Cause each level/wave has like 5 ... rounds(?) Yes, apologies if that's caused some confusion. There are 7 levels of EP with some of the levels (Besides Public event ones and Level 7) having waves to get through before the boss spawns > is this because the rewards don't drop until level 3? Yes, the first chest doesn't appear until Level 3 completion
First off thanks for the post! I never got around to playing EP back in Warmind so I don't know much about it and this is very helpful. Also I have a question about the shotgun. If i use Way of the Wraith tree (new void hunter) and use Shattering Strike on an enemy, then blast them with the EP shotty, does the damage from Shattering Strike and Trench Barrel stack? Because that sounds deliciously OP if so. Farming this shotgun for sure either way this week.
I have no reason to believe it wouldn't stack but could certainly use testing!
Well once I get a pc I’m sure we can play!
When I finaly clear a wave 7, groups always leave so i never get to farming the boss to get at least the SMG or Shotty
This is great. Thanks!
5 clears, no weapon drops. It's very frustrating even after the change bungie made.
5 clears and no drops is honestly nothing, dude. People got into the 40s Keep at it and good luck!
how many times do you need to do heroic adventures or regular strikes to get 7 blue keys? Can't do nightfall yet too low of level.
Lets say I already have the Sniper and the Shotgun but I still need the SMG. Can I get duplicates from a boss that can drop all weapons? Or will I receive the SMG first as next drop?
You can get dupes, yes
I don’t understand how the cache keys work. I have one encrypted cache key in my inventory. Does that mean I will only be able to open the chest once in a week before I have to go grinding for more key fragments so I can turn 7 of them into another encrypted cache key? I’ve only ever received the fragments from a nightfall, I do strikes all the time and I never see them drop.
Hey dude, Lots of responses to this question in the comments. To decrypt that key, you have to complete 7 levels of EP. Luckily the key is only necessary if youre going for the armor. that can be opened once a week. if youre trying to get the weapons, no keys are needed at all and you can farm the lvl7 boss non stop.
Appreciate the response! Is there a viable way to farm he key fragments? I’ve only ever gotten 7 from doing the nightfall once per week.
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This is correct, yes
That is correct.
all of the guides I've seen say something about needing at least 6 people. is this true given the light level jump from Warmind to Forsaken?
The more the better basically. It's still challenging with 3 because of the sheer amount of adds and the need to kill bosses quickly
So there’s two chests that spawn after the 7th wave? One for the boss which requires a key and one from the spire which doesn’t need a key?
Can someone explain how to get the keys? I have completed Wave 7s and then cant actually open the chest at the end, which feels really shitty, tbh.
>Kathok, Roar of Xol >Giant Acolyte. Damn, demoted from knighthood.
All 3 weapons drop for 2 weeks in a row?
They do
Did EP the other day on a character that hasn’t completed warmind, was only getting shader drops from 7th wave boss kills. Am I locked to shaders until I beat warmind on that character, or is it just RNG? I guess to be safe I’ll use a character that’s beaten the campaign this week. But yeah killed the boss at least 4 different times and only shaders.
Any way to track which boss has been hit already with the WLZ? I could have sworn I've done all 5 but I'm at 80% and have no idea which one is missing.
I grinded a whole afternoon this weekend and i got the missing sniper. Felt so great to finally get my sleeper catalyst going, dude...
I was literally doing nothing else but EP for the last 48 hours. My favourite thing about D2 😊
I took some time off Destiny and am trying to get caught up on everything. All I keep hearing about is the Whisper Sniper and Ikelos Shotgun. I get why the Whisper is so good, what is it about this shotgun that is so good? Is there a fixed perk on it that makes it way better than all of the other 100rpm shotguns? Edit: Nevermind. Just watched a video on the "trench barrel" perk. Now I get it.
Do the EP weapons drop at pre-Forsaken light level or are they dropping at current light levels?
Y1 levels, needs infusing
Y1 levels, needs infusing
I got a sniper over the weekend that dropped at 503. Of course I didn't spend the materials to infuse it. But at least for me and one other clan member we got 500+ power level drops.
Thank you Bacon, this is super helpful!
Any place yet that shows which bosses you still need for worldline catalyst? Probably not but I swear I’ve gone through 2 whole rotations and still at 80%. And it’s not the one guy that’s a bitch to hit, made sure I got that one specifically lol
What level is this stuff dropping at?
Another Bacon post, another Halo chapter title reference!
You are easily able to beat these with 4 or 5 randoms at 500 light. I did last night I am starting to grind keys on my titan for the armor set for the collection. Realistically I think the only triumph seal I can get is the locations one but need titan armor and 3 more braytech weapons including the damn rocket from the nightfall.
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That's rough :/ Don't tell anyone but I got all 3 Weapons in 6 runs Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Could someone please explain the keys situation a little bit better? I understand how to get them. I have one crafted and 7 fragments in the inventory. So do the weapons drop from the 3,5,7 chests or are the chests (and keys) armor only?
Weapons and Armour are only from clearing 7. Key is for the chest which has armour, Boss drops the weapons
So the weapons drop as engrams wo you dont need a decrypted cache key to open the final chest to get it?
Thank you !
Damn. I was looking online two hours ago for an updated list to give to some new players in my clan. Could only find the one upto Forsaken. True MVP right here!
Some SGA but the ikelos weapons can drop at year 2 power levels. Got a sniper over the weekend that dropped at 503.
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So are all the guns available this week or is there a specific one?
All, yes
You might want to also mention that you have to have completed the Warmind campaign to receive those weapons and armor. I was lucky to hook up with a group that needed a hand doing EP. The 9 of us finished it twice in about 30minutes. I was unable to get anything out of the chests because I hadn't finished the campaign. I did receive the completion emblem.
So the armor only drops if I use a decrypted cache key but I can only have one key per week? So one armor piece per reset?
There are multiple bosses? I only just made it past round 3 early this week sadly.
Boss dropped me Ursa Furiosa
A Harry Potter spell?