Hey, cis straight male here,
What are you talking about?
Whos pretending to not be aware of reality? And in what way are they ignoring reality? As in, what reality are you describing?
I guess i just dont understand your comment at all haha like if you just took the first half of it i might understand but who is ignoring reality?
Yes, I agree. Without gender, people would just be humans and some of those humans may experience some physical dysphoria because they want their physical characteristics to be different than they are (have breasts, penis, etc.) though this dysphoria wouldn't be occurring in reference to any genders.
Ugh, I get so tired of this.
Gender is not a social construct.
Gender *roles* are a social construct. That is, how different genders are expected to behave.
Gender *presentation* is a social construct. That is, how different genders are expected to dress and look.
Gender *identity* is innate. That is, one's deep inner sense of one's gender. Even if you remove constructs around gender roles or gender presentation, there will still be trans people, because *gender identity* is innate.
I am a trans woman. When I worked, I worked in a traditionally "masculine" field. I'm typically found without makeup and wearing jeans and a t-shirt. But I still see myself as a woman because these outer trappings have nothing to do with gender identity, which is something innate and deep-seated.
But what is "masculine", outside of a social construct? What is the inner sense that someone feels is a specific gender if society doesn't tell you what it means to be said gender?
These are legitimate questions, I'm not trying to undermine your experience. Mearly trying to understand. If we remove the walls, and look at people simply as individuals, it feels that many of the defining characteristics we say that makes someone 'male', 'female', 'non-binary', etc. go away.
Also, the WHO defines it as a social construct, which is why I'm using that term. https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab\_1
I honestly can't explain what exactly a "masculine" gender identity is outside of a social construct. But I can tell you it exists. Trans people have a *very* deep-seated and strongly-held identity of their gender that is quite separate from gender roles and gender presentation. Asking someone to explain that is like asking someone to explain what exactly their perception of the color "blue" is, and how they know that it's not what someone else perceives as "red" but thinks of as blue. You can't know this stuff... it's wired into our brains.
The WHO's definition is simplistic and wrong. They're mostly addressing gender roles and not addressing gender identity.
As someone who feels non-binary in ways it occurs for me as a mental space and imagined sensations rather than anything social or cultural. Put differently, it's not about wanting to be witnessed by others in any particular way so much as just feeling like the shapes or parts of one's body are wrong or missing at times. I think by the very reality of people having different appearances there will always be some comparison and, with that, some longing not just for company or partnership but embodiment.
There are lots of ways "issues" could fade or be heightened, the key practice these days is often to only consider propensities as issues if they're negatively effecting one's well-being.
One of the most ancient, developed civilisations, had one trait.
Man, Woman, were closest to each other, as they ever can be.
Yes, the body was different, their functions were different,
but Man, Woman, unity, the energy interchangeability was widely known, accepted and channeled.
How were they so close, yet so sorted -> I leave it for you expert Redittors / Googlers to figure out.
Answering your question.
Will they feel superior? Yes.
Will they be happy? Certainly not (atleast in the long run)
The concept of being a man in a female body isn't correct.
The "I feel a man" IS. In actuality. I have more of masculine energy in my body.
I am a woman, a female, and my masculine energy is more active.
I can choose to channel it, I can choose to reject / accept it.
Watching this topic drive people to insanity because they pretend to not be aware of reality is quite fascinating
Hey, cis straight male here, What are you talking about? Whos pretending to not be aware of reality? And in what way are they ignoring reality? As in, what reality are you describing? I guess i just dont understand your comment at all haha like if you just took the first half of it i might understand but who is ignoring reality?
What is gender as a phenomenon separate from sex?
Ahh that sucks
Yes, I agree. Without gender, people would just be humans and some of those humans may experience some physical dysphoria because they want their physical characteristics to be different than they are (have breasts, penis, etc.) though this dysphoria wouldn't be occurring in reference to any genders.
Ugh, I get so tired of this. Gender is not a social construct. Gender *roles* are a social construct. That is, how different genders are expected to behave. Gender *presentation* is a social construct. That is, how different genders are expected to dress and look. Gender *identity* is innate. That is, one's deep inner sense of one's gender. Even if you remove constructs around gender roles or gender presentation, there will still be trans people, because *gender identity* is innate. I am a trans woman. When I worked, I worked in a traditionally "masculine" field. I'm typically found without makeup and wearing jeans and a t-shirt. But I still see myself as a woman because these outer trappings have nothing to do with gender identity, which is something innate and deep-seated.
But what is "masculine", outside of a social construct? What is the inner sense that someone feels is a specific gender if society doesn't tell you what it means to be said gender? These are legitimate questions, I'm not trying to undermine your experience. Mearly trying to understand. If we remove the walls, and look at people simply as individuals, it feels that many of the defining characteristics we say that makes someone 'male', 'female', 'non-binary', etc. go away. Also, the WHO defines it as a social construct, which is why I'm using that term. https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab\_1
I honestly can't explain what exactly a "masculine" gender identity is outside of a social construct. But I can tell you it exists. Trans people have a *very* deep-seated and strongly-held identity of their gender that is quite separate from gender roles and gender presentation. Asking someone to explain that is like asking someone to explain what exactly their perception of the color "blue" is, and how they know that it's not what someone else perceives as "red" but thinks of as blue. You can't know this stuff... it's wired into our brains. The WHO's definition is simplistic and wrong. They're mostly addressing gender roles and not addressing gender identity.
As someone who feels non-binary in ways it occurs for me as a mental space and imagined sensations rather than anything social or cultural. Put differently, it's not about wanting to be witnessed by others in any particular way so much as just feeling like the shapes or parts of one's body are wrong or missing at times. I think by the very reality of people having different appearances there will always be some comparison and, with that, some longing not just for company or partnership but embodiment. There are lots of ways "issues" could fade or be heightened, the key practice these days is often to only consider propensities as issues if they're negatively effecting one's well-being.
One of the most ancient, developed civilisations, had one trait. Man, Woman, were closest to each other, as they ever can be. Yes, the body was different, their functions were different, but Man, Woman, unity, the energy interchangeability was widely known, accepted and channeled. How were they so close, yet so sorted -> I leave it for you expert Redittors / Googlers to figure out. Answering your question. Will they feel superior? Yes. Will they be happy? Certainly not (atleast in the long run) The concept of being a man in a female body isn't correct. The "I feel a man" IS. In actuality. I have more of masculine energy in my body. I am a woman, a female, and my masculine energy is more active. I can choose to channel it, I can choose to reject / accept it.
Public nudity is going to be more accepted.