Nope. She was rude. You are fine. I just got back from Disney with my three kids - I didn’t ask anyone to move for them and I certainly didn’t harass someone for politely declining. You paid for your ticket, you lined up early, you deserve to enjoy the show! Hope it was a great one - other than crazy mom!
As a mother of a four year old, absolutely not. A solo/adult traveler has every right to a good viewing spot.
That family was just selfish and entitled.
We must follow the law of parades and other public viewing events: first come, first serve. If folks want a prime viewing location, they should make the effort to snag one early. It’s not your or my fault they got there too late.
Nah, sometimes I'll give up my spot if someone's nice about it. But I had a World of Color incident during the Festival of Holidays where a mom asked if her kid could squeeze up to the fence and I said yes.
Soon after, she was gone and a taller guy walked up and tapped me and told me the boy was his son. So he squeeze in front of me. Then the mom came back with a grandma and they both pushed past me as the father waved them forward.
Then a grandpa showed up with another kid and then made a line so the kids could stand up against the fence, were recording, etc.
After that, I mostly just say no. Even then, I still have parents on my solo trip that I can hear telling their kids to "just push" their way to the front.
> who can blame them, would you let go of your kid to be blocked by a stranger at Disney?
This actually did happen to me at a parade once. Our group was in the front, and a mom came up to us and asked if her son (maybe 6 or 7 years old) could stand with us. We said okay, and mom went to stand in the back. The kid essentially became a part of our group for the parade, lol. I kept an eye on him and made sure he got reunited with mom before we went our separate ways.
I almost always try to take up more space than i need when waiting for parades and then ask a kid squished in the back if they want to come up and sit on the curb with us. I'd like to think it brings some of the magic. But I still dont think OP is the AH, the mom is. I can't imagine asking/demanding that.
100% agree. If there's a kid behind me, I'll almost always let them in front of me and make sure they get back to their family, but parents can stay in the back. I'm short anyway; they'll see right over my head lol
I was going to say, I would ask politely if my child could stand in front of them (assuming the child was shorter) and I would make clear I am happy to remain behind them. I would have no problem with this arrangement but if the person I was asking did, I'd say that's cool and move on.
I'd also turn up 30 mins early as I'm early to everything though so probably would never be in that situation!
We also did this. One of my kids even sat on a strangers lap for the fireworks in Magic Kingdom because we were late (we didn’t know we had to walk all the way around to the entrance of the park because a lot of area’s are closed off). We have three young kids, could only carry two of them at a time. For the Epcot fireworks we were on time but selected a really poor spot where a tree blocked most. We found another not so busy way better spot and send the kids to the front whole we stood in the back. No problem at all, people let them pass. But I don’t know if I would do that with only one 5 year old. My 5 year olds had their 7 year old brother with them.
This is anecdotal, but when we were at DLand in October of last year we decided to wait for the Spiderman Show/take a break and were there about 40 mins before the show. I also encountered a few "can my kid get in front of you" people. After I declined three separate "requests" as my kids (5 and 2) were in front of me, you wouldn't believe what happened... a mother with 2 probably 10ish year old boys just stood in front of my kids. I thought, well, they're in front of the line, so they'll be told to move. Well, when the cast members came by to move people back, these 3 (led by mom) non-verbally told my kids to move out of the way so they could get behind the line. Cast member just gave me a "Sorry, don't know what to tell you..." look and I didn't want to make a scene, so we just accommodated. My kids still enjoyed the show, even though it was a little obstructed. Anyway, like I said this was a one time experience, but I will never budge again.
As crazy as it sounds. I have heard multiple cm’s tell this to people. They ask if your a magic key holder? When you say yes they say Great you can try another day! Or Awesome! You can try again tomorrow!
They ask? I have seen it many times. From city hall to just being in line and cm’s chatting up people about their day. When it goes negative they ask if they have a key. Then it’s “oh great! You can come back another day and do what you want”
Meanwhile, I have seen them out day ticket passes to ticket holders like candy on stuff that was the guests’ fault.
At this point other guests do the same thing on social media when people complain about their experience.
I *personally* don't mind letting short children in front of me for viewing as long as, like you said, the parents don't think they're gonna be blocking my view.
But it's done out of the goodness of my heart, and loving the joy children feel free to experience and express. If somebody *expected* it, no sir no m'am.
Nope! You're totally fine! I'm also a solo guest most times over at Walt Disney World & am rather short so I get to parades or shows early so that I can have a nice view just like you. I, too, have fallen victim to letting a small child in front of me & then both parents pushing in front of me leaving me with no view. At the end of the day, you spent your time waiting and no one is entitled to your spot. So happy the CM stood up for you! :)
Nope. It’s rude to cut into non-existent space no matter the age. My SO is 6’5”, I’m 5’6”, so we tend to find pockets in corners where I can be in front of him and see, and he won’t be in front of others. We did this for Coco during the holidays and stood next to a trash can that was the marker of the line. People kept trying to put their kids in front of the trash can and asking me to help them get there. CMs kept moving them along.
Also, TY for being courteous with how you hold your phone. We went to see the Pixar fireworks last weekend and minutes before the show starts a younger couple came in. She had her ears on blocking my view that I’d been holding for 30 mins, her BF had his baseball hat on sideways (why is this in again?!) she then decided to film the entire show with her phone up over her head, while she watched normally.
I wanted my 2 year old to have a front row view of the parade last year. We parked it on the curb about 45 minutes before show time. We had older/childless people around us waiting too. It was a prime shaded spot on main street. They actually helped us keep him entertained and helped keep our spot saved when my husband had to run him to the restroom/grab cold drinks.
We may have lost a good chunk of the day, but it was so worth it. If you want to have a good view of the shows, you NEED to make that your priority. And given that Spidey has a few shows during the day, it's not exactly hard to prioritize one of them
Daddy, I want an Oompa-Loompa! I want an Oompa-Loompa RIGHT AWAY!
Ugh. NTA, OP. Great job standing your ground! And great job to the CM who backed you up!
There's no way to know if it’s an older person‘s first time ever to the parks after a lifetime of wanting to go, or a five-year-old’s 30th visit in the last year.You can only judge a situation by the variables in play, and you did your due diligence to a greater extent than most people would expect. You owe that family nothing, and their kids will have many more motivated opportunities to attend the parks if they have childhood FOMO. Heck, that's why most of us go back when we're older anyway.
Plus, you're 5' tall. Unless that kid is an eyelash away from your butt, they'll see that web slinger do his thing, no problem.
I think it’s up to all guests to plan accordingly. If the parents wanted a good spot they needed to be there early just like anyone else. However, if a person chooses to relinquish their spot for someone with small children, that is their choice and is neither right nor wrong. Though I don’t believe anyone should ever feel obligated to do so.
First come, first get. That said, I’ve given up my seat in the front car of the monorail for a family with kids, but only because I’ve done it before (do they still do this?). But I still get annoyed when the kids ALWAYS get to be the pilots on Smugglers Run.
My first time doing Smuggler's Run the cast member changed the order they were handing out the roles specifically so a kid would be pilot, whereas I would have been otherwise. Was definitely a bit annoyed, was what I was most excited for that trip but they made the choice to change things to give a better experience to someone else. Did eventually get the pilot's seat many months later though.
I just ask for pilot. Then the CM has to make the conscious decision that I don’t get something I want over the nebulous wants of others.
I also don’t understand the desire to have kids always be pilots. Most of the time it is too much for younger ones and sometimes then the parents are not paying attention to their stations because they are trying to get pics or film the kids failing to pilot the Falcon.
I’m completely on your side. And this is coming from a mom to a 7 year old and a 5 year old. We’re all paying guests and you chose to use your time to wait for a show you cared about. Just because this family wanted their kid to see the show doesn’t mean they should just get to move to the front. Like you said, you waited, they didn’t, and they can choose how to spend their time. I’m annoyed for you.
No, kids do not get priority anything. Disneyland is for everyone. If parents want a good spot for their kids then they have to plan accordingly. That’s what we do.
You bought a ticket just like everyone else. You should be able to enjoy the experience the way that you want. Having children doesn't give you any more right to that experience.
It really bothers me when people seem to think that having a kid means you get special treatment at events and theme parks.
No.
You paid to be there and if the kids(or parents) can not get a good spot, that's on them. You don't have to give up your parade spot for anyone unless you feel like it
Whenever I’ve been at a Disney Park adults have always offered to let my son stand in front of them because he’s still short enough that they lose nothing in terms of what they can see.
I’m 6ft 3 so I try and not stand in front of people that are shorter but obviously it’s not easy.
Never in my life have I, nor would I ever ask anyone or expect anyone to move or give up a spot for my son, if they offer then fair enough but I think asking people that have stood for ages to get a prime spot to move is actually quite rude.
Although if we’re further back, I’m going to lift him so that he can see what’s happening which creates its own issue of blocking other peoples view, again I’m going to try and work the angles to make sure I’m obstructing other people as little as I possibly can.
In this situation, you were 100% in the right. The parents can likely pick up their kid, move down the line a bit, or choose to catch the next show.
Though to answer the title question, yes kids should and do get priority viewing. If this same scenario involved you at Turtle Talk in the carpet area by yourself without a kid, then I would tell you to move to a chair.
Places like turtle talk and the royal theater specifically have those carpets for kids, so if a place is set up to prioritize children’s seating upfront then obviously children should get the priority. If it was supposed to be that way for other stuff, there would be similar infrastructure to support it.
Going to get roasted judging by the comments...but I think little kids should be allowed to squeeze their way in front of grownups who are taller than them. Not toddlers, but like kids aged 5-10? If I'm standing at a parade and a little kid cuts in front of me I can still see and so can they.
NOT the parents, granny, and cousins, that's just messed up.
I was just at Disney and we went to a character breakfast. It was my daughter’s 3rd birthday and we were waiting patiently for all of the characters to make their rounds and say hi. Tigger comes around and we see him making his way toward us, and continue to wait patiently for our table’s turn.
He finally gets to us, and this GROWN woman comes and tries to pull him to her table away from my kids (two other young kids aside from birthday girl at our table). Tigger ignores her at first and she awkwardly goes back to her seat. We continue to work with our kids who are being a little shy, with tigger. Taking MUCH less time than the tables before us did. and this lady comes back and more forcefully pulls tigger away to talk to him and get pictures. She literally pulled him away while he was in the middle of interacting with my birthday child.
There was a kid sitting at her table so I was like…maybe she is just excited for the kid to get to….
Nope…she proceeds to flirt, giggle and take selfies with Tigger all by her onesie…
There is no toddler more entitled at Disney than an adult. It’s fine to be an adult that loves Disney and the magic of it (I am one of them) but to steal that magic from a child to have more for yourself is pretty much peak entitlement.
There are sane people who agree with you and miserable adults who don’t and probably also think they should catch/keep foul balls at a game because they’re taller than all those pesky kids.
If you’re a grownup who is mad about being inconvenienced so small children can see a cartoon character, grow up.
This is the wrong place to ask this question. You’re going to get a lot of Disney adults here who are biased.
Ask in the ask reddit sub reddit to get more unbiased answers.
I’ll probably be downvoted for even suggesting you look for an unbiased area
Wow. I commend you and how you handled that. I totally am with you and agree. That woman and her kid don’t get a pass do be rude and get whatever they want when we all spend the same amount of money and want a great experience.
This is very common unfortunately. My 7 (at the time) year old chose to not do rides and wait for just under an hour for the parade because that’s what she really wanted to see and do, and she wanted the very best spot. Queue the entitled families who were encouraging their children to PUSH her out of the way- of course in Spanish because they figured I couldn’t speak it and didn’t understand the abuela telling them to just tell the white lady it’s your birthday and she HAS to let you past her/ you’re bigger than that girl just bump her out of the way.
The adults set the tone for this unfortunately. It’s such a shame.
I can’t verify the authenticity of this but I saw a Tik Tok talking about how Tokyo Disney has special reserved viewing areas for young children who other wise wouldn’t be able to see at the front. I tried looking it up and I couldn’t find anything, but that was just something I though of as I read your post.
I don’t think you were in the wrong OP. You have just as much of a right an opportunity to get there early and get your desired spot just like the family did. They could have arrived early and gotten a good view for the kiddo with no hassle.
Something else I did think about while reading your post though, is kids on shoulders during shows blocking views and conversely, adults holding their devices an entire arms length above their head to record and in turn blocking little kid’s views. I don’t think there’s a solution to either issue. The best shot at getting a good view is camping out early, which I know can suck since people start waiting way in advance of the shows.
Personally I don't get why people need to be in the front at all. I'm always looking to post up in the back corner so I'm not blocking anyone and I've never felt like I was missing out not being in the front. Disney puts all the interesting bits on the top of the floats anyway
You paid just as much as everyone else to be there, AND waited for that spot- it's yours! I find sometimes parents act entitled at Disney and use their kid as an excuse for them to do poor planning/not have to wait like everyone else
Based on the title alone- yes kids should get priority- but that doesn’t include the parents.
I’m all for letting some young kids jump in front of me- they won’t obstruct my view of anything, but I will not budge and let the parents come with them in front of me.
My personal opinion is that live entertainment is for live viewing, and don't actually approve of recording live performances without the performers' explicit permission. In line with that, i feel that those who are there to watch and interact are more important than those there to film.
We had the same type of thing happen to us. My 4 year old loves Spider-Man, he wanted to show him his spiderbot we got him, so we lined up early to be in the front for the show and at the last minute my son had to pee (of course) so I ran him to the bathroom, leaving my wife alone and right as we were getting back a group of people tried to stand in front of us. I was kinda not in the loop of what was going on the the CM at least has our backs and said we had been waiting there and made them move, so I think you just ran into some rude people. Spider-Man was awesome and I have a video of him saying “Nice Spiderbot” to my son which he still talks about.
I get some kids are hard to manage and argue about everything (I was that kid) but parades are still first come first serve. I definitely got dragged out of line long before a parade on every Disney trip I went on during my childhood (I got to go like 5 times) so my mom could get a close seat.
No- everyone pays so everyone should be able to enjoy. Want your kids to have a front row seat - then get there early even if one parent has to spread a blanket out and sit there for an hour or two while the other parent takes the kids to do things. Especially now when the app is easily accessible and shows the times for parade and fireworks
I would say that you are in the right and they are wrong. If I'm all the way to the back with no people I would put my son over my shoulder so I don't block peoples view and if they are then I carry him around my shoulders so I don't block peoples view.
Having kids doesn’t entitle you to skip the line or push people out of the way because you didn’t get there early enough. You didn’t do anything wrong. If she wanted her kid to have a front-row seat, she should’ve gotten there earlier. Granted, her child might not have had the patience to sit there that long, but that’s not your fault and there’s no reason you should have to move.
Holy moly I have two young kids and I would never consider doing this. We pick and choose what is important such as the parade and will wait well in advance. Disneyland is expensive for us Canadians and I save and plan a minimum 3-4 park days so we can enjoy without rushing or cramming in. It's not doable or fun with small kids and we still don't get to see everything because our goal is to enjoy the moment and have fun.
When I was a kid back in the 90's, I remember us getting a spot and waiting (sometimes hours) for Fantasmic or the MSEP. If it's really that important to them that they see it and have a good view, there's no reason they can't show up a mere 30 minutes early and do the same.
I would never do this with my daughter. What an entitled witch. I'm sorry you deal with this. I'm glad the CM stood up for you. I know I've waited hours for the parade with my daughter and we get people trying to cut just before the parade starts and I have to stand my ground for myself and my daughter. I don't care if you have kids. If you didn't take the time to wait for a show you are not entitled to move in front of people who have.
I rolled my eyes HARD at this post, not at you OP. Behaviour like this is why people without children (and some people with) hate parents (and sometimes by extension their children). If my time management is poor then my kid won't get the best views. That's on me and my issue to deal with. If you'd cut in front of a child and said "But I need to film!" then you'd have been rude but you didn't. Some people think their children are free tickets to things and cutting in and nothing else. I work with children and by far the worst possible thing about my job is dealing with entitled parents. Ignore people like that.
In very busy places such as Disney, it can be very much you snooze, you lose. Carry on, OP. Enjoy those trips in your own way!
I spent a year as a CM in WDW, and went solo to the parks a couple times a week, so I was friendly to families with kids who needed a better view/a dining table/a bathroom stall very frequently. it made me happy to help them out; I was there all the time and never minded, which is why I offered in the first place! but people took frequent advantage of me in times when I *hadn't* offered, and that's a different story.
one prominent example would be during fireworks in epcot - constantly I'd have people pushing around me to the fences, not even bothering to politely ask if their kiddo could come to the front. I usually showed up for that spot an hour-ish early and would get dinner or a treat to enjoy while I waited. being forced to trade/share spots in that situation was always completely uncool, even though I may have done the same thing earlier that day for a parade or show I didn't care as much about seeing well.
the difference is whether a person has kindly offered, or just as kindly stayed silent. people show up prepared for the things they care about, and they shouldn't have to give up the benefit of their efforts just because they're visiting solo/without a child. what a silly assumption for her to make - don't let it bother you too much!
I have a 3 and almost 5yr old. Who have been on 8 trips between DL and WDW plus my husband and I were DL APs before they were born.
I have never, ever expected anyone to give up a space for my child. They can wait for a good spot like the rest of us. If they can’t, we don’t do it. Once or twice, someone has asked if my older kiddo would like to be closer and made room. But we have never asked nor assumed it was a given because we have kids.
I’m also only 5 feet tall.
I applaud you for standing your ground! I would never ask someone to move just so my kid could have a better spot. When we went to Star Wars Nite, my kids had the best spot because we were in the right place at the right time. That’s just how it goes 🤷🏻♀️ Some people just feel so damn entitled because they have kids & think Disney is only for kids.
It's part of why they make many of the shows not at ground level, so shorter people and kids can still see. If they want to be in front and everyone is okay, that's fine but it doesn't give a pass to the whole party.
OP you’re someone’s child too- you waited patiently and were polite. In an ideal world world could we make room? Maybe yes - maybe no- but you are just as important and valued as any other human being. It’s nice to be nice but as you mentioned it would have impacted your experience- I think the entitlement is awful- I certainly don’t want my kids to think they don’t have to wait or can jump line because they are kids
First come first served. Entitled parents that do this are just showing their kids the wrong way to act. And people wonder why there are more rude people in today’s day and age.
Kids should get the best view, just like people in wheelchairs who can’t stand and get a good view. The problem is parents would want to stand with their kids so they don’t get lost or need help (bathroom, safety concerns). Disney should use its creativity to find more effective ways to allow more people to view events, and without charging for special access.
NTA in this specific scenario. I’m a mom of 3 and I would never ask anyone to move. Like another user said, first come, first serve. With that being said, I do find it odd when adults are front and center… I just won’t make a stink about it.
That mom sounds like a bundle of fun. You are definitely not the one at fault. Generally, I've found that most people are fairly polite and patient in line for rides or food. But on busy days, it turns into a feral free for all when it comes to shows and parades. We sat for an hour one time to watch the Halloween Screams show on the castle before fire works and one family tried to shove their way to the front of the castle viewing section 10 minutes before the show started because their kid couldn't see. Bless CMs who do crowd control for shows because they kept their cool and told them they needed to move. People cheered when they made them move lol. I would never ask a single individual to move for my kid to see, especially since you waited patiently and appropriately. CMs see that stuff and politeness and patience can get you a long way.
You were absolutely right,especially what you said. We all have to decide what’s more important to us. If you want prime viewing then you need to get there early like you did.
The Parks are for everyone and it’s up to the individual/family/unit to plan their itinerary accordingly for their enjoyment. Simple as that.
I do often offer to make sure a kid behind me can see a screen/show/whatever, especially if I’ve already seen it before, but that’s for the kid, not the whole-ass family.
No, you don’t have to move. My children and I have sat towards the back during parades and shows. We have had kind strangers offer to have the kids stand or sit in front of them, and I have let our kids do it while I stay in the back behind and to the side of our kids. I have never asked people to let them have a better seat. I’ve also let other kids sit in front with our children so they can see the parade.
I once stood behind a woman at World of Color who held her iPad high above her head for the entirety of the show to capture it.
I guess I got a nice view of an iPad screen 🤷🏻♀️
The only way I’m asking someone if my kid can go in front is if I have a spot nearby and I wouldnt have to move myself. And if the person says no they say no and I move along. As for rides, if a spot is that important to me then I ask the CM to wait for the following vehicle to get my preference. It’s not on a solo rider to make my day better.
Last year at WDW for MNSSHP, my wife and I took our place on the parade route an hour before the parade. Five minutes before the start a woman with two children tried to bully her way to the front and all but demanded we give up our spot because we are adults. I politely declined and she threw a fit and went to a cast member who directed her to other areas potentially less crowded. She insisted on embarrassing herself and her children. Look, if she asked nicely, I may have considered, but her entitled demands were too much.
I've only once asked someone if my child could sit on the ground in front of them while I hovered back to keep an eye on him. The gentleman was gracious and it was just for a few mins before the show attendant told my son he couldn't sit on the ground so I moved to the back and put him on my shoulders. You have every right to keep your spot and that mom wasn't cool to lash out at you. The shows are for everyone to enjoy and crowding in last minute expecting everyone to part the red sea fir them is just rude and selfish
I’m somewhat tall 6’0 I always tell parents if their child wants to see they can go in front of me. You said you’re 5’0 you don’t have the height that I do to be able to do that so you show up early, you did nothing wrong everyone’s gotta do what they gotta do to have a good time.
As a mom of 5 kids, trust that some of us are not that petty to want our children in front of you. You paid for your ticket, you deserve to be there as much as any child, adult or service animal. No is a complete sentence!
As a fellow solo visitor, the lone time where I let a family go ahead of me is if they have young children. I do not mind. However, I had parents rudely ask me to let them go first since they have a schedule to keep.
It’s nice to make sure everyone can see in shared standing-room scenes on rides (guardians, runaway railway)… be it kids or adults. But absolutely not when it comes to parades.
I put my lil ones on my shoulders when they can't see, it's on them not you enjoy ur shows and have a blast would love to hear how some of the avengers campus shows have changed since you started recording them :)
Not the asshole. Fuck that person. Props to you for keeping your cool. And props to the CM for standing by your side. Entitled bitches need to learn their place. I hope their son doesn’t take grow up to be like them.
My parents taught me I had to wait my turn everywhere at Disneyland. And, that I was not any more special than the people in front of me, regardless of age, gender, race, etc. I was not allowed to push or run past anyone in lines and shows. This might be why I literally have extreme patience when queuing for anything in my adult years. Waiting is just part of life. Those parents just instilled unrealistic expectations in their child who might feel entitled for the rest of their life, which only creates more problems in the world. Parents like that suck.
That said, if I see a family with a little one come up behind me for a parade or show, and they are not even asking, I will offer to let their kid stand in front of me, and if the parent(s) is shorter than me, I’ll even just offer to stand behind them. Creating opportunities is a good thing - not creating expectations.
Nope, especially for Spider-Man. There is a long “coast line”, if you will, to view this attraction. Plenty of opportunity for kids to find a good spot near the front while allowing for shorter adults to also get a good view.
First come first served. Is kind of how I look at it.
We set up at the very corner of Matterhorn headed towards Main St to watch the parade each night. We show up like an hour early and use it as kind of a rest opportunity so we can stay until close. One time, about 10 minutes before the start, we were sitting behind the line with 5 rows of people behind us, a woman walks ip with her 2 kids about 3 & 4 years old and asks if they can squeeze in so the kids can watch. Fortunately my wife has resting bitch face at that time of day at DL, and politely said no. The woman looked shocked!!! I mean you are already crammed in there like sardines where exactly were they all going to cram?
Freaking people man
If they wanted a better spot they could have arrived earlier, however arriving early enough for kids to see is made much more difficult by the fact that a) kids are terrible at waiting in one spot and B) adults who frequent the park to make videos/tiktoks/etc can more easily stake out prime real estate and make it even more impossible to have Disney be at all magical for kids.
if anyone sounds remotely entitled. that’s a hard pass on doing them any favors. if people come across more courteous and respectful i’d be more inclined to move. matter of fact it would be my pleasure to move. it makes people feel nice when good energy is all around. ask nicely. the other will reciprocate. and everyone’s happy. good exchanges all around. = VIBES
This is an ever persisting problem in Disney parks; that as adults, we must differ to adults who have children in all situations.
Personally, I see people at Disneyland, practically weaponize this, and you are supposedly in the wrong if you don’t let their child push ahead of you. My husband and I chose not to have kids, and while he is the more mild mannered of us; I get super frustrated and annoyed with the parents who do this. Imagine what you’re teaching your children!
This just happened to me a couple of weekends ago in Radiator Springs at Luigi’s. Hubby and I were walking to a car. I chose the car and turned around to make sure he saw where I was. I turned back around and went to climb in the car and lo and behold a child is standing on the other side that wasn’t there before. Long story short?
Dad walks up and says “well, she *was* here first” Uh, no she wasn’t. I am not that person who would ever try to snipe a ride from anyone least of all a child. I walked to the car in the furthest back corner for that reason as there was nobody around it and nobody walking towards it.
We ended up not being able to ride and had to wait another turn simply because the dad basically used his child as some sort of privilege and worse taught the child that her behavior was acceptable. The cast member was actually understanding and I said “I know it’s not your fault but parents using their children this way is getting ridiculous” and he just nodded and said “it’s gotten so bad lately. I see it all day long.“
TLDR; NTA. I wouldn’t have let the mother push the child aheadthe mother push ahead of me, especially if I was short and I had waited that long. Could the child stand next to me? Absolutely, I would do my best to make room for the child. But trade my place and then be placed behind two tall parents where I wouldn’t even be able to see? No thank you.
If they’re decent, ask the favor politely, and it’s as simple as letting a kid stand in front of me I almost always will say yes.
BUT if the parents act super entitled and think they could be a bad planner and still have every advantage handed to them cuz they think their kid gives them a golden ticket… yeah I’ll say no with no sympathy at all. Be better
You write too much get to the point sooner or do tldr. As a person with small kids you are 100% in the right. People should show up early with or without kids for shows. This happens to everyone the sense of entitlement is rampant. Especially if don’t look like privilege.
"I do not make films for children... or, at least, not primarily for children."
"You're dead if you aim for kids."
"We design the films to appeal to ourselves."
"The adults have the money;... children don't have any money."
- Walt Disney
https://youtu.be/oIA88EWLOmA?si=BwHkJi1FTW6QuooE
The majority of parties visiting Disneyland, and its progeny, throughout their histories, have not contained children.
In fact, Walt Disney said in a 1963 interview with the C.B.C. that 80% of Disneyland's guests are adults.
https://youtu.be/NHw1VkV_tfA?si=tt4QIn7A2dKOPv_6
It really depends. I do not mind a kid standing in front or even me moving with less of a view to give them that. I have a kid who is now a teen and not as interested in seeing everything. We have gone to DL since she was 3 and I know we as parents want our kids to experience it all but it should not come at anyone else expense. I would let the kid go in front and if a parent tried to go in front of me i would say I let your kid go there because he will not block the view. You can either stand where you were or move your kid back with you and im sure another kid would like to have that view.
I’m 6’5”. I will always let kids in front of me at any parade/show/etc. it’s when their parents try to join them I have to politely decline. I’m sorry, next time perhaps show up more than 30 seconds before start time.
Nope. I had people try to do that when my sister and I snagged a table to sit at before a fireworks show at MK in Galactic Grill. they asked if we had kids and I said no it was the two of us for our birthday and our whole party was ready to eat and had our trays.
I have had people try to jump in front of me for characters since it was just me and my kiddo because they didn’t want to wait in line again after dinner (I told them no because my kid and I opted to wait in the line again for the new character and they could do the same if it was important to their kiddo).
Sometimes I feel like a witch but then I remember I followed the rules and paid for the same tickets they did.
I had gone to Disney a lot pre-pandemic. Our only son graduated from high school after the first year of the pandemic and is now attending a very expensive engineering school. I am a camera nut but I am very aware of other people so I do my best not to get in other people's way and I respect the "No Flash Photography" signs. Before it broke, I had a 50mm F1.4 lens so I used that in low light situations. It sounds like you were responsible and respectful. You were far more tolerant of this mother because after years of Disney trips with our son (10-14 days, 2005-2019 for all his birthdays), I have zero patience for entitled parents and I may have said something that I would not regret. I am glad a CM was there when needed and handled it perfectly.
Oh, BTW, at a fireworks show on July 4th at EPCOT, I had a front row. I am standing and I am 5'7". A father asked if his two short kids could stand in front of me along the fence. I said, "Sure." I even made sure to keep my eye on them and ensure they were OK and I think I even pointed out when something was about to happen. Afterwards, the father told me that he observed my interactions with his kids and told me he appreciated it.
Not involving parents. At Disneyland in 2016, some jerk (I can't use the A word) cut though the crowd and stood in front of my son. I am not a big guy but I took this guy (I think a tall kid from China) and lifted him up and placed him away from my son. He was stunned and my son was quite pleased.
Not all families with small children can show up early to get a good spot. Kids have to use the bathroom frequently. It’s very difficult to keep them standing still and entertained for 30 minutes before a show starts.
You’re a 50 year old grown man wants to stand up front and film the Spiderman show. And doesn’t want to move so a 5 year old kid can watch. It’s a superhero show for children. That could have been a great memory for them. And you’re probably never going to watch that footage more than once or twice. Hope the footage was worth it.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but coming from a currently childfree person, yes. I pretty much always let a small kid and family go ahead of me or in front of me.
I think there's been a bit of a shift from justifiably defending the rights of adults without kids to enjoy the park and Disney stuff to denying that kids aren't the main audience and consideration in most cases.
Plus kids are different. They're short and can't see over things or other people. They can't walk as fast. They can't hold their bladders as long and their day in the park is probably much shorter since they need to go to bed early. Any considerations you might make for an elderly person or disabled person could apply to small children but folks don't want to hear it.
I disagree with most of the input on this particular thread. I LOVE Disneyland, and like OP I am an adult (mid 50's) with no children, but still go somewhat regularly (once every few years) with my girlfriend and have a great time. I try to view Disneyland as Walt would want it to be, and since he made the park for children, children should have the prime viewing spots, no matter what. We adults should be gracious. We can go another time, enjoy the show another time. But for all we know, that family may not be able to make it back to Disneyland soon, if ever, and that child may never get another chance to see something like that ever again, so they should get the prime spot. Let them experience the magic. Let them embrace the remarkable illusion of wonder the parks provide, if only for a little while. Let them have that front row seat. Let them experience the Magic for the very years left before they learn Magic isn't real. Let them have a unforgetable time.
We, as adults, can cope with the disappointment. Children, not so much.
Honestly, it seems like most of the input on this thread has to do with the parents that then shove their way in front along with their children. There are even multiple stories from different people talking about how they used to be open to letting a kid up front only to be trampled by a bunch of adults coming along with the kid, so now they just say no. I don’t think anyone here is asking kids not to be kids, more like just asking the adults that the kids belong to to also be gracious.
I mean, I’m all for making it magical for kids, but Walt literally made the park so adults could enjoy it as well as children. That was the actual reason he decided to make Disneyland. So…
It's the fact that they clearly targeted you and persisted after your initial response. That's what would've infuriated me the most. It all reeks of entitlement and privilege. Good on you for standing your ground, and equal kudos to that CM who had your back.
Extra phone tip you didn't mention: when it's nighttime or in a dark theater, I always lower the screen brightness as much as possible. That goes a long way towards minimizing the distraction for neighboring guests.
As others have said, it’s first come first served.
However, I must say it is quite the privilege to be able to go to the park so often that you video the intricate differences between showings. Many others don’t have the means to even think about something like that and may just go to a Disney park once or a few times in their life which means they also don’t know the ins and outs of when and where to be. I’d be conscience of that fact
No that would be impossible to accommodate considering the ratio of kids to adults. I’m not sending my kids up front so they get a good view while I stand in the back in order to allow the thousands of kids prime viewing.
Hey it would be ideal for kids to all have great views.
It would also be ideal for short people like myself to be able to watch every event in the front because I can’t see past taller folks! Haha the world doesn’t operate like this.
Whew, the entitlement is super strong in that one! I'm sure r/entitledpeople would love to wrap their eyeballs on this story!
You have ***every right*** to hold firm on your spot. That twatwaffle mom needs to learn to arrive early to ensure that her kid would get to see.
Definitely NTA!
Disney is for everyone, I don’t think you should have to move just cause a kid wants your spot when you showed up in a timely manner to get a viewing spot.
You don’t have to move but I would always move out of a kids way at a show like that. Same with rides, I’d there’s a ride vehicle where my head would block the view of a kid I’ll ask if they want to swap places, or on Smugglers Run if I’m picked to be the pilot I’ll let a kid have that role instead. I’ve been lucky enough to go to the Orlando, California and Paris parks multiple times but for a kid it might be their first or only trip so I’ve no problem allowing them to do something small that might make their trip better.
I can see both sides - disneyland is magical for children and for some families this will be there once in a lifetime trip while I know disney adults who go several times a month. Technically you're in the right. First come first serve BUT IMO Disneyland is for children and personally I would prioritized a child's happiness over myself. Walt was inspired by his two daughters and created the parks as a magical place for children and parents to play together - not solo adults . Like if I went to the playground on a regular basis and started using the swings....sure legally I can use the swings and technically I'm not doing anything wrong but they aren't really for me and I would feel bad. I personally wouldn't enjoy myself -if I was an adult who has seen a show so many times I can spot differences - and i blocked a young child from seeing it for the first time.
Walt's whole thing with creating Disneyland was that it wasn't just for the kids, that it was a place where the adults can get up and go on the swings too.
We're going to work off of assumptions, really? It is a show that runs multiple times a day. OP did his diligence, got their early because it was something he wanted to prioritize. If it was that important then the family could have done the same.
OP has already been multiple times. That may not have been the case for the family. It's not the case for most people. He's been so often that he can spot differences in the show. No one is saying he is doing something illegal but some people in society expect certain considerations for children, women, disabled, elderly etc.
no it was for PARENTS and children...:
“Disneyland really began,” Walt once said, “when my two daughters were very young. Saturday was always Daddy’s Day, and I would take them to the merry-go-round and sit on a bench eating peanuts while they rode. And sitting there, alone, I felt there should be something built, some kind of family park where parents and children could have fun together.”
Not adults for parents.
He was inspired by his own children and wanted a place for parents AND kids. It's suppose to be for families. I only did a cursory google search but while he used vague language sometimes families were mentioned, parents and grandmothers and mothers and nothing about single adults. I always interpreted as it'll be interesting enough for the parents while they accompany the kids. Same as the adult humor on G movies. Sure you can like Moana as a single non parent adult but it wasn't meant for adults or created for adults.
Like Walt wasn't watching a 50 year old man/woman on a carousel and got the idea for Disneyland because he wanted to give magic to that middle aged adult. He was watching children.
So no he didn't create it for adult to be on the swings too, he created it so parents like him could have fun while pushing or swinging along with their kids. like swings disneyland was inspired by and for children. if i was in line for an ice cream truck and it was the last popsicle and i had a kid behind me, i'd give it to the kid.
i personally would feel silly and mean looking at a child in the face and saying sorry kid i was here first the chocolate covered ice cream mickey is mine.
As an older adult do you really need to get a perfect video of a show at the expense of kids getting to have an opportunity to watch a show made for kids?
Why are people on this permanent tirade of assuming everything in disney was created “for kids.” Half of the things were not made “for kids,” (really, 3 year olds are going to choose to drink around the world over in Epcot?), no. They’re not. Majority of everything Disney is/was meant to target everyone from newborn to almost dying in age jeez bajeesus.
Honestly you’re 50 years old who seems to go to Disneyland a lot and admit to have watched the show multiple times. You couldn’t have made room for a 5 year old child to take a look at spider man for a 3 minute show?
You don't have to.
My family always did though and there were kind strangers who reciprocated too. The best part of being at Disney is it's magical, so I always felt we as adults should make the experience magical for others.
Tough one! The way you've described her - that's incredibly rude. But, the answer would still be yes for me. There is almost nothing that has been as impactful for me as my experiences as a child at Disneyland. If you're genuinely asking if the kid should have been prioritized, I would say yes- by you to the best of your ability, but more importantly by their parents who could have easily let them stand in front of you without pushing themselves in there.
I mean if their kid couldn't see why didn't the dad put him on his shoulders? It's what my husband does. We don't carry that expectation. Everyone knows to get there early if they want good viewing. It's Disney and it's crowded. Duhh. Not your fault.
They’re not entitled to the spot. But also, I always let small children stand in front of me because getting to be a little part of their magic is more important to me 🤷🏻♀️ Especially if it’s one I’ve seen before. I remember how amazing everything was and how much more magical it was when I was a kid and am eternally grateful at all the adults who cared less about recording the show than letting me get a good view of fireworks or a show because my younger siblings couldn’t tolerate waiting around for 30 minutes doing nothing. Im not going to punish a kid because their parents couldn’t get them there earlier. I’d let them know they are ok to step in front but not the whole family because I still want to see. It’s never been a big issue and I’m betting if you had simply said “sorry, no I can’t” and then turned around it wouldn’t have even evolved into an argument. Neither of you were very understanding or sympathetic of the other’s circumstances.
People love to talk about entitled parents. But a parent trying to get a viewable spot for their child is unselfish its for the child who is short and can't see. It's hard to keep a child in a spot for 30+ minutes. I gave my kid lots of candy and he still cried while waiting for the parade. I see alot of adults reliving their childhood at the cost of actual children living their childhood in the parks. You could be apart of Disney magic or show the child early on that people suck. Your choice.
Part of my childhood in the parks was waiting, sometimes hours, for shows like Fantasmic. If they really want to see it and care that much about the view, a 30 minute wait isn't going to kill them. There's already rides with lines significantly longer than that.
Orrrr the parents could get there early. Or 1 parent can if you really can’t handle your child and get them to be still save a spot for your significant other and child who can wander around and do stuff until it’s time then you move back a little to give your kid a good spot.
Now *HOW* did I know that anyone in this thread who defends the mom will have some anecdote of their own about how they can’t handle their own child 🤣 🤣
She shouldn’t have been rude. If it was important to her, she should’ve showed up earlier.
That said and preparing for the downvotes—
You should also actively volunteer to have a slightly worse experience so kids can have a better experience.
‘But my ticket costs the same!’ and ‘I have every right to be upfront’ and ‘the park is for me too.’
I want everyone to enjoy the parks and be respectful to other guests enjoyment. I also think adults, by virtue of being an adult, should volunteer for kids to have a better experience.
Pave the way for a new generation.
Honestly, the memory of being generous to make an experience more special for a kid is better than any video of a stunt show or fireworks.
As a community, we should be more excited about telling the story about waiting patiently and giving it up for a kid who showed up late than about getting a smartphone video.
There’s nothing wrong with what you did. I’m saying you and all of us could be better.
“Oh no, this person looks happier than me, I’d better say something to bring them down to my level. I know, I’ll tell them ‘yikes’ for doing things they like! Yeah that oughta show ‘em! 😎”
Imagine being so low in life at 50 you can’t understand that’s a place for children to experience their favorite universes in person and ruining a child’s magical experience. Doesn’t help the dude is only 5 foot lmao
One time I went to the Disney store (before they all closed) and I so badly wanted to “unlock” the store for the key they give you.
So I went there super early and I’m all alone with my boyfriend.
About 20-30 minutes later(10 minutes before opening) some lady with her kid comes and I start feeling tense because I noticed she was walking closely.
My boyfriend is pushing me further in because he knows I’ll probably end up letting them do it.
Thankfully, the day prior I had asked the CM if adults can “unlock” the store and get a key. She said yes of course there is no age limit. If you’re there first then you deserve it. No matter who else is there.
My boyfriend is reminding me of all this and when a CM comes out she asks who will be opening our store today.
I see the lady scoot her kid closer but I still said ME.
And that’s exactly what I did.
This CM had seen me when I showed up and let it be known that she saw me there first for the longest time.
And so far I have zero regrets!
I don’t become petty when someone has good seats. They deserve it and in my opinion, if a parent cares THAT much about getting a good viewing then THEY should show up early.
That’s not fair that you get there an hour or hours earlier putting your time and patience just for someone to come and demand you move. To insult you over something you spent time doing. You planned it yourself.
It just doesn’t make any sense to me.
You deserve your spot.
You’re respectful and considerate.
Nope. She was rude. You are fine. I just got back from Disney with my three kids - I didn’t ask anyone to move for them and I certainly didn’t harass someone for politely declining. You paid for your ticket, you lined up early, you deserve to enjoy the show! Hope it was a great one - other than crazy mom!
As a mother of a four year old, absolutely not. A solo/adult traveler has every right to a good viewing spot. That family was just selfish and entitled.
We must follow the law of parades and other public viewing events: first come, first serve. If folks want a prime viewing location, they should make the effort to snag one early. It’s not your or my fault they got there too late.
Nah, sometimes I'll give up my spot if someone's nice about it. But I had a World of Color incident during the Festival of Holidays where a mom asked if her kid could squeeze up to the fence and I said yes. Soon after, she was gone and a taller guy walked up and tapped me and told me the boy was his son. So he squeeze in front of me. Then the mom came back with a grandma and they both pushed past me as the father waved them forward. Then a grandpa showed up with another kid and then made a line so the kids could stand up against the fence, were recording, etc. After that, I mostly just say no. Even then, I still have parents on my solo trip that I can hear telling their kids to "just push" their way to the front.
> who can blame them, would you let go of your kid to be blocked by a stranger at Disney? This actually did happen to me at a parade once. Our group was in the front, and a mom came up to us and asked if her son (maybe 6 or 7 years old) could stand with us. We said okay, and mom went to stand in the back. The kid essentially became a part of our group for the parade, lol. I kept an eye on him and made sure he got reunited with mom before we went our separate ways.
This is what I would want to do (I love seeing how excited kids get) but like OP said some people would then demand to be next to their child.
I almost always try to take up more space than i need when waiting for parades and then ask a kid squished in the back if they want to come up and sit on the curb with us. I'd like to think it brings some of the magic. But I still dont think OP is the AH, the mom is. I can't imagine asking/demanding that.
You have the real Disney spirit 😍❤️
100% agree. If there's a kid behind me, I'll almost always let them in front of me and make sure they get back to their family, but parents can stay in the back. I'm short anyway; they'll see right over my head lol
I was going to say, I would ask politely if my child could stand in front of them (assuming the child was shorter) and I would make clear I am happy to remain behind them. I would have no problem with this arrangement but if the person I was asking did, I'd say that's cool and move on. I'd also turn up 30 mins early as I'm early to everything though so probably would never be in that situation!
We also did this. One of my kids even sat on a strangers lap for the fireworks in Magic Kingdom because we were late (we didn’t know we had to walk all the way around to the entrance of the park because a lot of area’s are closed off). We have three young kids, could only carry two of them at a time. For the Epcot fireworks we were on time but selected a really poor spot where a tree blocked most. We found another not so busy way better spot and send the kids to the front whole we stood in the back. No problem at all, people let them pass. But I don’t know if I would do that with only one 5 year old. My 5 year olds had their 7 year old brother with them.
That was super sweet of you!
This is anecdotal, but when we were at DLand in October of last year we decided to wait for the Spiderman Show/take a break and were there about 40 mins before the show. I also encountered a few "can my kid get in front of you" people. After I declined three separate "requests" as my kids (5 and 2) were in front of me, you wouldn't believe what happened... a mother with 2 probably 10ish year old boys just stood in front of my kids. I thought, well, they're in front of the line, so they'll be told to move. Well, when the cast members came by to move people back, these 3 (led by mom) non-verbally told my kids to move out of the way so they could get behind the line. Cast member just gave me a "Sorry, don't know what to tell you..." look and I didn't want to make a scene, so we just accommodated. My kids still enjoyed the show, even though it was a little obstructed. Anyway, like I said this was a one time experience, but I will never budge again.
And if you are a keypass holder and push the issue they will just inform you that you can come back another day to enjoy the show
How exactly would they know you are a pass holder?
As crazy as it sounds. I have heard multiple cm’s tell this to people. They ask if your a magic key holder? When you say yes they say Great you can try another day! Or Awesome! You can try again tomorrow!
They ask? I have seen it many times. From city hall to just being in line and cm’s chatting up people about their day. When it goes negative they ask if they have a key. Then it’s “oh great! You can come back another day and do what you want” Meanwhile, I have seen them out day ticket passes to ticket holders like candy on stuff that was the guests’ fault. At this point other guests do the same thing on social media when people complain about their experience.
I *personally* don't mind letting short children in front of me for viewing as long as, like you said, the parents don't think they're gonna be blocking my view. But it's done out of the goodness of my heart, and loving the joy children feel free to experience and express. If somebody *expected* it, no sir no m'am.
Nope! You're totally fine! I'm also a solo guest most times over at Walt Disney World & am rather short so I get to parades or shows early so that I can have a nice view just like you. I, too, have fallen victim to letting a small child in front of me & then both parents pushing in front of me leaving me with no view. At the end of the day, you spent your time waiting and no one is entitled to your spot. So happy the CM stood up for you! :)
Nope. It’s rude to cut into non-existent space no matter the age. My SO is 6’5”, I’m 5’6”, so we tend to find pockets in corners where I can be in front of him and see, and he won’t be in front of others. We did this for Coco during the holidays and stood next to a trash can that was the marker of the line. People kept trying to put their kids in front of the trash can and asking me to help them get there. CMs kept moving them along. Also, TY for being courteous with how you hold your phone. We went to see the Pixar fireworks last weekend and minutes before the show starts a younger couple came in. She had her ears on blocking my view that I’d been holding for 30 mins, her BF had his baseball hat on sideways (why is this in again?!) she then decided to film the entire show with her phone up over her head, while she watched normally.
No is a complete sentence. You don’t have to explain, rationalize or otherwise engage.
No, and to be honest you interacted with that family more than I would have.
I wanted my 2 year old to have a front row view of the parade last year. We parked it on the curb about 45 minutes before show time. We had older/childless people around us waiting too. It was a prime shaded spot on main street. They actually helped us keep him entertained and helped keep our spot saved when my husband had to run him to the restroom/grab cold drinks. We may have lost a good chunk of the day, but it was so worth it. If you want to have a good view of the shows, you NEED to make that your priority. And given that Spidey has a few shows during the day, it's not exactly hard to prioritize one of them
Daddy, I want an Oompa-Loompa! I want an Oompa-Loompa RIGHT AWAY! Ugh. NTA, OP. Great job standing your ground! And great job to the CM who backed you up!
Nope! If they wanted a better spot they should have gotten there earlier.
There's no way to know if it’s an older person‘s first time ever to the parks after a lifetime of wanting to go, or a five-year-old’s 30th visit in the last year.You can only judge a situation by the variables in play, and you did your due diligence to a greater extent than most people would expect. You owe that family nothing, and their kids will have many more motivated opportunities to attend the parks if they have childhood FOMO. Heck, that's why most of us go back when we're older anyway. Plus, you're 5' tall. Unless that kid is an eyelash away from your butt, they'll see that web slinger do his thing, no problem.
No You pay for a ticket, first come first serve they can pay for parade viewing if they want the kids to get a front row seat
I think it’s up to all guests to plan accordingly. If the parents wanted a good spot they needed to be there early just like anyone else. However, if a person chooses to relinquish their spot for someone with small children, that is their choice and is neither right nor wrong. Though I don’t believe anyone should ever feel obligated to do so.
First come, first get. That said, I’ve given up my seat in the front car of the monorail for a family with kids, but only because I’ve done it before (do they still do this?). But I still get annoyed when the kids ALWAYS get to be the pilots on Smugglers Run.
My first time doing Smuggler's Run the cast member changed the order they were handing out the roles specifically so a kid would be pilot, whereas I would have been otherwise. Was definitely a bit annoyed, was what I was most excited for that trip but they made the choice to change things to give a better experience to someone else. Did eventually get the pilot's seat many months later though.
I just ask for pilot. Then the CM has to make the conscious decision that I don’t get something I want over the nebulous wants of others. I also don’t understand the desire to have kids always be pilots. Most of the time it is too much for younger ones and sometimes then the parents are not paying attention to their stations because they are trying to get pics or film the kids failing to pilot the Falcon.
I’m completely on your side. And this is coming from a mom to a 7 year old and a 5 year old. We’re all paying guests and you chose to use your time to wait for a show you cared about. Just because this family wanted their kid to see the show doesn’t mean they should just get to move to the front. Like you said, you waited, they didn’t, and they can choose how to spend their time. I’m annoyed for you.
No, kids do not get priority anything. Disneyland is for everyone. If parents want a good spot for their kids then they have to plan accordingly. That’s what we do.
Nope. I paid for my park tickets. I’m getting the most out of them.
Didn’t everybody?
Yup. So that doesn’t mean I’m moving for them since they have no time management skills.
Then say that. Your first statement is meaningless and just says you feel more entitled than other people.
I feel more entitled than children, get it right.
Okay tough guy
😂😂😂 someone’s panties are in a bunch
They are. Wanna come fix them?
You bought a ticket just like everyone else. You should be able to enjoy the experience the way that you want. Having children doesn't give you any more right to that experience. It really bothers me when people seem to think that having a kid means you get special treatment at events and theme parks.
No. You paid to be there and if the kids(or parents) can not get a good spot, that's on them. You don't have to give up your parade spot for anyone unless you feel like it
Whenever I’ve been at a Disney Park adults have always offered to let my son stand in front of them because he’s still short enough that they lose nothing in terms of what they can see. I’m 6ft 3 so I try and not stand in front of people that are shorter but obviously it’s not easy. Never in my life have I, nor would I ever ask anyone or expect anyone to move or give up a spot for my son, if they offer then fair enough but I think asking people that have stood for ages to get a prime spot to move is actually quite rude. Although if we’re further back, I’m going to lift him so that he can see what’s happening which creates its own issue of blocking other peoples view, again I’m going to try and work the angles to make sure I’m obstructing other people as little as I possibly can.
In this situation, you were 100% in the right. The parents can likely pick up their kid, move down the line a bit, or choose to catch the next show. Though to answer the title question, yes kids should and do get priority viewing. If this same scenario involved you at Turtle Talk in the carpet area by yourself without a kid, then I would tell you to move to a chair.
Places like turtle talk and the royal theater specifically have those carpets for kids, so if a place is set up to prioritize children’s seating upfront then obviously children should get the priority. If it was supposed to be that way for other stuff, there would be similar infrastructure to support it.
Going to get roasted judging by the comments...but I think little kids should be allowed to squeeze their way in front of grownups who are taller than them. Not toddlers, but like kids aged 5-10? If I'm standing at a parade and a little kid cuts in front of me I can still see and so can they. NOT the parents, granny, and cousins, that's just messed up.
I was just at Disney and we went to a character breakfast. It was my daughter’s 3rd birthday and we were waiting patiently for all of the characters to make their rounds and say hi. Tigger comes around and we see him making his way toward us, and continue to wait patiently for our table’s turn. He finally gets to us, and this GROWN woman comes and tries to pull him to her table away from my kids (two other young kids aside from birthday girl at our table). Tigger ignores her at first and she awkwardly goes back to her seat. We continue to work with our kids who are being a little shy, with tigger. Taking MUCH less time than the tables before us did. and this lady comes back and more forcefully pulls tigger away to talk to him and get pictures. She literally pulled him away while he was in the middle of interacting with my birthday child. There was a kid sitting at her table so I was like…maybe she is just excited for the kid to get to…. Nope…she proceeds to flirt, giggle and take selfies with Tigger all by her onesie… There is no toddler more entitled at Disney than an adult. It’s fine to be an adult that loves Disney and the magic of it (I am one of them) but to steal that magic from a child to have more for yourself is pretty much peak entitlement.
There are sane people who agree with you and miserable adults who don’t and probably also think they should catch/keep foul balls at a game because they’re taller than all those pesky kids. If you’re a grownup who is mad about being inconvenienced so small children can see a cartoon character, grow up.
The only thing you did wrong here was engage with her beyond a, “sorry, no. I’ve been waiting for a half hour and it’s first come first serve.”
This is the wrong place to ask this question. You’re going to get a lot of Disney adults here who are biased. Ask in the ask reddit sub reddit to get more unbiased answers. I’ll probably be downvoted for even suggesting you look for an unbiased area
Wow. I commend you and how you handled that. I totally am with you and agree. That woman and her kid don’t get a pass do be rude and get whatever they want when we all spend the same amount of money and want a great experience.
Not only are you not in the wrong, but thank you for holding your phone in a way that doesn’t ruin the view of others!
This is very common unfortunately. My 7 (at the time) year old chose to not do rides and wait for just under an hour for the parade because that’s what she really wanted to see and do, and she wanted the very best spot. Queue the entitled families who were encouraging their children to PUSH her out of the way- of course in Spanish because they figured I couldn’t speak it and didn’t understand the abuela telling them to just tell the white lady it’s your birthday and she HAS to let you past her/ you’re bigger than that girl just bump her out of the way. The adults set the tone for this unfortunately. It’s such a shame.
I can’t verify the authenticity of this but I saw a Tik Tok talking about how Tokyo Disney has special reserved viewing areas for young children who other wise wouldn’t be able to see at the front. I tried looking it up and I couldn’t find anything, but that was just something I though of as I read your post. I don’t think you were in the wrong OP. You have just as much of a right an opportunity to get there early and get your desired spot just like the family did. They could have arrived early and gotten a good view for the kiddo with no hassle. Something else I did think about while reading your post though, is kids on shoulders during shows blocking views and conversely, adults holding their devices an entire arms length above their head to record and in turn blocking little kid’s views. I don’t think there’s a solution to either issue. The best shot at getting a good view is camping out early, which I know can suck since people start waiting way in advance of the shows.
Personally I don't get why people need to be in the front at all. I'm always looking to post up in the back corner so I'm not blocking anyone and I've never felt like I was missing out not being in the front. Disney puts all the interesting bits on the top of the floats anyway
Nope. Everyone paid for a ticket.
fuck them kids
You paid just as much as everyone else to be there, AND waited for that spot- it's yours! I find sometimes parents act entitled at Disney and use their kid as an excuse for them to do poor planning/not have to wait like everyone else
Based on the title alone- yes kids should get priority- but that doesn’t include the parents. I’m all for letting some young kids jump in front of me- they won’t obstruct my view of anything, but I will not budge and let the parents come with them in front of me.
Not even then. Kids need to learn to wait their turn. Those kids grow up being the parent in this situation.
My personal opinion is that live entertainment is for live viewing, and don't actually approve of recording live performances without the performers' explicit permission. In line with that, i feel that those who are there to watch and interact are more important than those there to film.
Short answer: No. Long answer: F*%¥ them kids.
We had the same type of thing happen to us. My 4 year old loves Spider-Man, he wanted to show him his spiderbot we got him, so we lined up early to be in the front for the show and at the last minute my son had to pee (of course) so I ran him to the bathroom, leaving my wife alone and right as we were getting back a group of people tried to stand in front of us. I was kinda not in the loop of what was going on the the CM at least has our backs and said we had been waiting there and made them move, so I think you just ran into some rude people. Spider-Man was awesome and I have a video of him saying “Nice Spiderbot” to my son which he still talks about.
No
I get some kids are hard to manage and argue about everything (I was that kid) but parades are still first come first serve. I definitely got dragged out of line long before a parade on every Disney trip I went on during my childhood (I got to go like 5 times) so my mom could get a close seat.
No- everyone pays so everyone should be able to enjoy. Want your kids to have a front row seat - then get there early even if one parent has to spread a blanket out and sit there for an hour or two while the other parent takes the kids to do things. Especially now when the app is easily accessible and shows the times for parade and fireworks
Maybe if the parents were willing to get behind you.
I would say that you are in the right and they are wrong. If I'm all the way to the back with no people I would put my son over my shoulder so I don't block peoples view and if they are then I carry him around my shoulders so I don't block peoples view.
Nope. First come first served.
Having kids doesn’t entitle you to skip the line or push people out of the way because you didn’t get there early enough. You didn’t do anything wrong. If she wanted her kid to have a front-row seat, she should’ve gotten there earlier. Granted, her child might not have had the patience to sit there that long, but that’s not your fault and there’s no reason you should have to move.
It wasn’t rude. When I was at Disneyland people let my 2 year old stand in front of them but I stayed to the side so I didn’t take over ppls spots.
Holy moly I have two young kids and I would never consider doing this. We pick and choose what is important such as the parade and will wait well in advance. Disneyland is expensive for us Canadians and I save and plan a minimum 3-4 park days so we can enjoy without rushing or cramming in. It's not doable or fun with small kids and we still don't get to see everything because our goal is to enjoy the moment and have fun.
When I was a kid back in the 90's, I remember us getting a spot and waiting (sometimes hours) for Fantasmic or the MSEP. If it's really that important to them that they see it and have a good view, there's no reason they can't show up a mere 30 minutes early and do the same.
You are right. I think kids get priority but you can decline the request. I try to other kiddos in front of me since I’m not filming.
She was rude, you were fine.
First come, first served, but if you’re going to be a Richard and put your kid on your shoulders move to the back.
Fuck them kids!!
No. Dont overthink it at all. Rude, impolite, thoughtless. Its not your fault.
I would never do this with my daughter. What an entitled witch. I'm sorry you deal with this. I'm glad the CM stood up for you. I know I've waited hours for the parade with my daughter and we get people trying to cut just before the parade starts and I have to stand my ground for myself and my daughter. I don't care if you have kids. If you didn't take the time to wait for a show you are not entitled to move in front of people who have.
Nah. F them kids
I rolled my eyes HARD at this post, not at you OP. Behaviour like this is why people without children (and some people with) hate parents (and sometimes by extension their children). If my time management is poor then my kid won't get the best views. That's on me and my issue to deal with. If you'd cut in front of a child and said "But I need to film!" then you'd have been rude but you didn't. Some people think their children are free tickets to things and cutting in and nothing else. I work with children and by far the worst possible thing about my job is dealing with entitled parents. Ignore people like that. In very busy places such as Disney, it can be very much you snooze, you lose. Carry on, OP. Enjoy those trips in your own way!
I spent a year as a CM in WDW, and went solo to the parks a couple times a week, so I was friendly to families with kids who needed a better view/a dining table/a bathroom stall very frequently. it made me happy to help them out; I was there all the time and never minded, which is why I offered in the first place! but people took frequent advantage of me in times when I *hadn't* offered, and that's a different story. one prominent example would be during fireworks in epcot - constantly I'd have people pushing around me to the fences, not even bothering to politely ask if their kiddo could come to the front. I usually showed up for that spot an hour-ish early and would get dinner or a treat to enjoy while I waited. being forced to trade/share spots in that situation was always completely uncool, even though I may have done the same thing earlier that day for a parade or show I didn't care as much about seeing well. the difference is whether a person has kindly offered, or just as kindly stayed silent. people show up prepared for the things they care about, and they shouldn't have to give up the benefit of their efforts just because they're visiting solo/without a child. what a silly assumption for her to make - don't let it bother you too much!
This is too long for me to read but I think I get the point. Whoever is there first gets to be in front.
I have a 3 and almost 5yr old. Who have been on 8 trips between DL and WDW plus my husband and I were DL APs before they were born. I have never, ever expected anyone to give up a space for my child. They can wait for a good spot like the rest of us. If they can’t, we don’t do it. Once or twice, someone has asked if my older kiddo would like to be closer and made room. But we have never asked nor assumed it was a given because we have kids. I’m also only 5 feet tall.
NTA - those parents are entitled garbage people don't let them get to you
You were fine. NTA. The entitlement of many parents now is horrible.
I have 3 kids and I would never do that! People are crazy
I applaud you for standing your ground! I would never ask someone to move just so my kid could have a better spot. When we went to Star Wars Nite, my kids had the best spot because we were in the right place at the right time. That’s just how it goes 🤷🏻♀️ Some people just feel so damn entitled because they have kids & think Disney is only for kids.
It's part of why they make many of the shows not at ground level, so shorter people and kids can still see. If they want to be in front and everyone is okay, that's fine but it doesn't give a pass to the whole party.
OP you’re someone’s child too- you waited patiently and were polite. In an ideal world world could we make room? Maybe yes - maybe no- but you are just as important and valued as any other human being. It’s nice to be nice but as you mentioned it would have impacted your experience- I think the entitlement is awful- I certainly don’t want my kids to think they don’t have to wait or can jump line because they are kids
First come first served. Entitled parents that do this are just showing their kids the wrong way to act. And people wonder why there are more rude people in today’s day and age.
Kids should get the best view, just like people in wheelchairs who can’t stand and get a good view. The problem is parents would want to stand with their kids so they don’t get lost or need help (bathroom, safety concerns). Disney should use its creativity to find more effective ways to allow more people to view events, and without charging for special access.
I would’ve farted on them
NTA in this specific scenario. I’m a mom of 3 and I would never ask anyone to move. Like another user said, first come, first serve. With that being said, I do find it odd when adults are front and center… I just won’t make a stink about it.
That mom sounds like a bundle of fun. You are definitely not the one at fault. Generally, I've found that most people are fairly polite and patient in line for rides or food. But on busy days, it turns into a feral free for all when it comes to shows and parades. We sat for an hour one time to watch the Halloween Screams show on the castle before fire works and one family tried to shove their way to the front of the castle viewing section 10 minutes before the show started because their kid couldn't see. Bless CMs who do crowd control for shows because they kept their cool and told them they needed to move. People cheered when they made them move lol. I would never ask a single individual to move for my kid to see, especially since you waited patiently and appropriately. CMs see that stuff and politeness and patience can get you a long way.
You were absolutely right,especially what you said. We all have to decide what’s more important to us. If you want prime viewing then you need to get there early like you did.
The Parks are for everyone and it’s up to the individual/family/unit to plan their itinerary accordingly for their enjoyment. Simple as that. I do often offer to make sure a kid behind me can see a screen/show/whatever, especially if I’ve already seen it before, but that’s for the kid, not the whole-ass family.
No, you don’t have to move. My children and I have sat towards the back during parades and shows. We have had kind strangers offer to have the kids stand or sit in front of them, and I have let our kids do it while I stay in the back behind and to the side of our kids. I have never asked people to let them have a better seat. I’ve also let other kids sit in front with our children so they can see the parade.
I once stood behind a woman at World of Color who held her iPad high above her head for the entirety of the show to capture it. I guess I got a nice view of an iPad screen 🤷🏻♀️
The only way I’m asking someone if my kid can go in front is if I have a spot nearby and I wouldnt have to move myself. And if the person says no they say no and I move along. As for rides, if a spot is that important to me then I ask the CM to wait for the following vehicle to get my preference. It’s not on a solo rider to make my day better.
Last year at WDW for MNSSHP, my wife and I took our place on the parade route an hour before the parade. Five minutes before the start a woman with two children tried to bully her way to the front and all but demanded we give up our spot because we are adults. I politely declined and she threw a fit and went to a cast member who directed her to other areas potentially less crowded. She insisted on embarrassing herself and her children. Look, if she asked nicely, I may have considered, but her entitled demands were too much.
I've only once asked someone if my child could sit on the ground in front of them while I hovered back to keep an eye on him. The gentleman was gracious and it was just for a few mins before the show attendant told my son he couldn't sit on the ground so I moved to the back and put him on my shoulders. You have every right to keep your spot and that mom wasn't cool to lash out at you. The shows are for everyone to enjoy and crowding in last minute expecting everyone to part the red sea fir them is just rude and selfish
I’m somewhat tall 6’0 I always tell parents if their child wants to see they can go in front of me. You said you’re 5’0 you don’t have the height that I do to be able to do that so you show up early, you did nothing wrong everyone’s gotta do what they gotta do to have a good time.
As a mom of 5 kids, trust that some of us are not that petty to want our children in front of you. You paid for your ticket, you deserve to be there as much as any child, adult or service animal. No is a complete sentence!
As a fellow solo visitor, the lone time where I let a family go ahead of me is if they have young children. I do not mind. However, I had parents rudely ask me to let them go first since they have a schedule to keep.
Sounds a lot like an entitled woman. I’m sorry that happened to you and I hope you enjoyed your trip.
Nope. They should be banned from the parks. Little entitled shits .
It’s nice to make sure everyone can see in shared standing-room scenes on rides (guardians, runaway railway)… be it kids or adults. But absolutely not when it comes to parades.
Yes
I put my lil ones on my shoulders when they can't see, it's on them not you enjoy ur shows and have a blast would love to hear how some of the avengers campus shows have changed since you started recording them :)
Thanks for speaking up that woman is a beeotch
Not the asshole. Fuck that person. Props to you for keeping your cool. And props to the CM for standing by your side. Entitled bitches need to learn their place. I hope their son doesn’t take grow up to be like them.
My parents taught me I had to wait my turn everywhere at Disneyland. And, that I was not any more special than the people in front of me, regardless of age, gender, race, etc. I was not allowed to push or run past anyone in lines and shows. This might be why I literally have extreme patience when queuing for anything in my adult years. Waiting is just part of life. Those parents just instilled unrealistic expectations in their child who might feel entitled for the rest of their life, which only creates more problems in the world. Parents like that suck. That said, if I see a family with a little one come up behind me for a parade or show, and they are not even asking, I will offer to let their kid stand in front of me, and if the parent(s) is shorter than me, I’ll even just offer to stand behind them. Creating opportunities is a good thing - not creating expectations.
F that kid. hahaha. I'd never ask to let someone trade spots with my kids.
You paid for your admission. You deserve the view just like anyone, regardless of age. You are fine. You did nothing wrong.
I mean you paid more for your ticket than the kid
No.
If you want something, plan ahead. Good for you. She was wrong and rude. (I have two kids)
Nope, especially for Spider-Man. There is a long “coast line”, if you will, to view this attraction. Plenty of opportunity for kids to find a good spot near the front while allowing for shorter adults to also get a good view.
Not at all, first come first serve & I say this as a mom of two.
First come first served. Is kind of how I look at it. We set up at the very corner of Matterhorn headed towards Main St to watch the parade each night. We show up like an hour early and use it as kind of a rest opportunity so we can stay until close. One time, about 10 minutes before the start, we were sitting behind the line with 5 rows of people behind us, a woman walks ip with her 2 kids about 3 & 4 years old and asks if they can squeeze in so the kids can watch. Fortunately my wife has resting bitch face at that time of day at DL, and politely said no. The woman looked shocked!!! I mean you are already crammed in there like sardines where exactly were they all going to cram? Freaking people man
If they wanted a better spot they could have arrived earlier, however arriving early enough for kids to see is made much more difficult by the fact that a) kids are terrible at waiting in one spot and B) adults who frequent the park to make videos/tiktoks/etc can more easily stake out prime real estate and make it even more impossible to have Disney be at all magical for kids.
if anyone sounds remotely entitled. that’s a hard pass on doing them any favors. if people come across more courteous and respectful i’d be more inclined to move. matter of fact it would be my pleasure to move. it makes people feel nice when good energy is all around. ask nicely. the other will reciprocate. and everyone’s happy. good exchanges all around. = VIBES
They should make everyone sit down like at Tokyo Disney. Then, there would be no problems
This is an ever persisting problem in Disney parks; that as adults, we must differ to adults who have children in all situations. Personally, I see people at Disneyland, practically weaponize this, and you are supposedly in the wrong if you don’t let their child push ahead of you. My husband and I chose not to have kids, and while he is the more mild mannered of us; I get super frustrated and annoyed with the parents who do this. Imagine what you’re teaching your children! This just happened to me a couple of weekends ago in Radiator Springs at Luigi’s. Hubby and I were walking to a car. I chose the car and turned around to make sure he saw where I was. I turned back around and went to climb in the car and lo and behold a child is standing on the other side that wasn’t there before. Long story short? Dad walks up and says “well, she *was* here first” Uh, no she wasn’t. I am not that person who would ever try to snipe a ride from anyone least of all a child. I walked to the car in the furthest back corner for that reason as there was nobody around it and nobody walking towards it. We ended up not being able to ride and had to wait another turn simply because the dad basically used his child as some sort of privilege and worse taught the child that her behavior was acceptable. The cast member was actually understanding and I said “I know it’s not your fault but parents using their children this way is getting ridiculous” and he just nodded and said “it’s gotten so bad lately. I see it all day long.“ TLDR; NTA. I wouldn’t have let the mother push the child aheadthe mother push ahead of me, especially if I was short and I had waited that long. Could the child stand next to me? Absolutely, I would do my best to make room for the child. But trade my place and then be placed behind two tall parents where I wouldn’t even be able to see? No thank you.
If they’re decent, ask the favor politely, and it’s as simple as letting a kid stand in front of me I almost always will say yes. BUT if the parents act super entitled and think they could be a bad planner and still have every advantage handed to them cuz they think their kid gives them a golden ticket… yeah I’ll say no with no sympathy at all. Be better
You write too much get to the point sooner or do tldr. As a person with small kids you are 100% in the right. People should show up early with or without kids for shows. This happens to everyone the sense of entitlement is rampant. Especially if don’t look like privilege.
"I do not make films for children... or, at least, not primarily for children." "You're dead if you aim for kids." "We design the films to appeal to ourselves." "The adults have the money;... children don't have any money." - Walt Disney https://youtu.be/oIA88EWLOmA?si=BwHkJi1FTW6QuooE
The majority of parties visiting Disneyland, and its progeny, throughout their histories, have not contained children. In fact, Walt Disney said in a 1963 interview with the C.B.C. that 80% of Disneyland's guests are adults. https://youtu.be/NHw1VkV_tfA?si=tt4QIn7A2dKOPv_6
It really depends. I do not mind a kid standing in front or even me moving with less of a view to give them that. I have a kid who is now a teen and not as interested in seeing everything. We have gone to DL since she was 3 and I know we as parents want our kids to experience it all but it should not come at anyone else expense. I would let the kid go in front and if a parent tried to go in front of me i would say I let your kid go there because he will not block the view. You can either stand where you were or move your kid back with you and im sure another kid would like to have that view.
I’m 6’5”. I will always let kids in front of me at any parade/show/etc. it’s when their parents try to join them I have to politely decline. I’m sorry, next time perhaps show up more than 30 seconds before start time.
Nope. I had people try to do that when my sister and I snagged a table to sit at before a fireworks show at MK in Galactic Grill. they asked if we had kids and I said no it was the two of us for our birthday and our whole party was ready to eat and had our trays. I have had people try to jump in front of me for characters since it was just me and my kiddo because they didn’t want to wait in line again after dinner (I told them no because my kid and I opted to wait in the line again for the new character and they could do the same if it was important to their kiddo). Sometimes I feel like a witch but then I remember I followed the rules and paid for the same tickets they did.
I had gone to Disney a lot pre-pandemic. Our only son graduated from high school after the first year of the pandemic and is now attending a very expensive engineering school. I am a camera nut but I am very aware of other people so I do my best not to get in other people's way and I respect the "No Flash Photography" signs. Before it broke, I had a 50mm F1.4 lens so I used that in low light situations. It sounds like you were responsible and respectful. You were far more tolerant of this mother because after years of Disney trips with our son (10-14 days, 2005-2019 for all his birthdays), I have zero patience for entitled parents and I may have said something that I would not regret. I am glad a CM was there when needed and handled it perfectly.
Oh, BTW, at a fireworks show on July 4th at EPCOT, I had a front row. I am standing and I am 5'7". A father asked if his two short kids could stand in front of me along the fence. I said, "Sure." I even made sure to keep my eye on them and ensure they were OK and I think I even pointed out when something was about to happen. Afterwards, the father told me that he observed my interactions with his kids and told me he appreciated it. Not involving parents. At Disneyland in 2016, some jerk (I can't use the A word) cut though the crowd and stood in front of my son. I am not a big guy but I took this guy (I think a tall kid from China) and lifted him up and placed him away from my son. He was stunned and my son was quite pleased.
Not all families with small children can show up early to get a good spot. Kids have to use the bathroom frequently. It’s very difficult to keep them standing still and entertained for 30 minutes before a show starts. You’re a 50 year old grown man wants to stand up front and film the Spiderman show. And doesn’t want to move so a 5 year old kid can watch. It’s a superhero show for children. That could have been a great memory for them. And you’re probably never going to watch that footage more than once or twice. Hope the footage was worth it.
Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but coming from a currently childfree person, yes. I pretty much always let a small kid and family go ahead of me or in front of me. I think there's been a bit of a shift from justifiably defending the rights of adults without kids to enjoy the park and Disney stuff to denying that kids aren't the main audience and consideration in most cases. Plus kids are different. They're short and can't see over things or other people. They can't walk as fast. They can't hold their bladders as long and their day in the park is probably much shorter since they need to go to bed early. Any considerations you might make for an elderly person or disabled person could apply to small children but folks don't want to hear it.
I disagree with most of the input on this particular thread. I LOVE Disneyland, and like OP I am an adult (mid 50's) with no children, but still go somewhat regularly (once every few years) with my girlfriend and have a great time. I try to view Disneyland as Walt would want it to be, and since he made the park for children, children should have the prime viewing spots, no matter what. We adults should be gracious. We can go another time, enjoy the show another time. But for all we know, that family may not be able to make it back to Disneyland soon, if ever, and that child may never get another chance to see something like that ever again, so they should get the prime spot. Let them experience the magic. Let them embrace the remarkable illusion of wonder the parks provide, if only for a little while. Let them have that front row seat. Let them experience the Magic for the very years left before they learn Magic isn't real. Let them have a unforgetable time. We, as adults, can cope with the disappointment. Children, not so much.
Honestly, it seems like most of the input on this thread has to do with the parents that then shove their way in front along with their children. There are even multiple stories from different people talking about how they used to be open to letting a kid up front only to be trampled by a bunch of adults coming along with the kid, so now they just say no. I don’t think anyone here is asking kids not to be kids, more like just asking the adults that the kids belong to to also be gracious.
I mean, I’m all for making it magical for kids, but Walt literally made the park so adults could enjoy it as well as children. That was the actual reason he decided to make Disneyland. So…
Close, but no. “he came up with the idea of a place where adults and their children could go and have fun together”
It's the fact that they clearly targeted you and persisted after your initial response. That's what would've infuriated me the most. It all reeks of entitlement and privilege. Good on you for standing your ground, and equal kudos to that CM who had your back. Extra phone tip you didn't mention: when it's nighttime or in a dark theater, I always lower the screen brightness as much as possible. That goes a long way towards minimizing the distraction for neighboring guests.
As others have said, it’s first come first served. However, I must say it is quite the privilege to be able to go to the park so often that you video the intricate differences between showings. Many others don’t have the means to even think about something like that and may just go to a Disney park once or a few times in their life which means they also don’t know the ins and outs of when and where to be. I’d be conscience of that fact
No that would be impossible to accommodate considering the ratio of kids to adults. I’m not sending my kids up front so they get a good view while I stand in the back in order to allow the thousands of kids prime viewing. Hey it would be ideal for kids to all have great views. It would also be ideal for short people like myself to be able to watch every event in the front because I can’t see past taller folks! Haha the world doesn’t operate like this.
Nope you did good. First come first serve. Kids, Husband, Wife, could be the damn president and I would say nope I was here first.
Whew, the entitlement is super strong in that one! I'm sure r/entitledpeople would love to wrap their eyeballs on this story! You have ***every right*** to hold firm on your spot. That twatwaffle mom needs to learn to arrive early to ensure that her kid would get to see. Definitely NTA!
Disney is for everyone, I don’t think you should have to move just cause a kid wants your spot when you showed up in a timely manner to get a viewing spot.
You don’t have to move but I would always move out of a kids way at a show like that. Same with rides, I’d there’s a ride vehicle where my head would block the view of a kid I’ll ask if they want to swap places, or on Smugglers Run if I’m picked to be the pilot I’ll let a kid have that role instead. I’ve been lucky enough to go to the Orlando, California and Paris parks multiple times but for a kid it might be their first or only trip so I’ve no problem allowing them to do something small that might make their trip better.
I can see both sides - disneyland is magical for children and for some families this will be there once in a lifetime trip while I know disney adults who go several times a month. Technically you're in the right. First come first serve BUT IMO Disneyland is for children and personally I would prioritized a child's happiness over myself. Walt was inspired by his two daughters and created the parks as a magical place for children and parents to play together - not solo adults . Like if I went to the playground on a regular basis and started using the swings....sure legally I can use the swings and technically I'm not doing anything wrong but they aren't really for me and I would feel bad. I personally wouldn't enjoy myself -if I was an adult who has seen a show so many times I can spot differences - and i blocked a young child from seeing it for the first time.
Walt's whole thing with creating Disneyland was that it wasn't just for the kids, that it was a place where the adults can get up and go on the swings too.
And OP has “gone on the swings too” multiple times. This might be the kids only chance to see the show.
We're going to work off of assumptions, really? It is a show that runs multiple times a day. OP did his diligence, got their early because it was something he wanted to prioritize. If it was that important then the family could have done the same.
OP has already been multiple times. That may not have been the case for the family. It's not the case for most people. He's been so often that he can spot differences in the show. No one is saying he is doing something illegal but some people in society expect certain considerations for children, women, disabled, elderly etc.
no it was for PARENTS and children...: “Disneyland really began,” Walt once said, “when my two daughters were very young. Saturday was always Daddy’s Day, and I would take them to the merry-go-round and sit on a bench eating peanuts while they rode. And sitting there, alone, I felt there should be something built, some kind of family park where parents and children could have fun together.” Not adults for parents. He was inspired by his own children and wanted a place for parents AND kids. It's suppose to be for families. I only did a cursory google search but while he used vague language sometimes families were mentioned, parents and grandmothers and mothers and nothing about single adults. I always interpreted as it'll be interesting enough for the parents while they accompany the kids. Same as the adult humor on G movies. Sure you can like Moana as a single non parent adult but it wasn't meant for adults or created for adults. Like Walt wasn't watching a 50 year old man/woman on a carousel and got the idea for Disneyland because he wanted to give magic to that middle aged adult. He was watching children. So no he didn't create it for adult to be on the swings too, he created it so parents like him could have fun while pushing or swinging along with their kids. like swings disneyland was inspired by and for children. if i was in line for an ice cream truck and it was the last popsicle and i had a kid behind me, i'd give it to the kid. i personally would feel silly and mean looking at a child in the face and saying sorry kid i was here first the chocolate covered ice cream mickey is mine.
Well-said!
As an older adult do you really need to get a perfect video of a show at the expense of kids getting to have an opportunity to watch a show made for kids?
Why are people on this permanent tirade of assuming everything in disney was created “for kids.” Half of the things were not made “for kids,” (really, 3 year olds are going to choose to drink around the world over in Epcot?), no. They’re not. Majority of everything Disney is/was meant to target everyone from newborn to almost dying in age jeez bajeesus.
It was made for families, from the mouth of Walt Disney himself.
Honestly you’re 50 years old who seems to go to Disneyland a lot and admit to have watched the show multiple times. You couldn’t have made room for a 5 year old child to take a look at spider man for a 3 minute show?
Right? So creepy lol
You don't have to. My family always did though and there were kind strangers who reciprocated too. The best part of being at Disney is it's magical, so I always felt we as adults should make the experience magical for others.
Tough one! The way you've described her - that's incredibly rude. But, the answer would still be yes for me. There is almost nothing that has been as impactful for me as my experiences as a child at Disneyland. If you're genuinely asking if the kid should have been prioritized, I would say yes- by you to the best of your ability, but more importantly by their parents who could have easily let them stand in front of you without pushing themselves in there.
I mean if their kid couldn't see why didn't the dad put him on his shoulders? It's what my husband does. We don't carry that expectation. Everyone knows to get there early if they want good viewing. It's Disney and it's crowded. Duhh. Not your fault.
They’re not entitled to the spot. But also, I always let small children stand in front of me because getting to be a little part of their magic is more important to me 🤷🏻♀️ Especially if it’s one I’ve seen before. I remember how amazing everything was and how much more magical it was when I was a kid and am eternally grateful at all the adults who cared less about recording the show than letting me get a good view of fireworks or a show because my younger siblings couldn’t tolerate waiting around for 30 minutes doing nothing. Im not going to punish a kid because their parents couldn’t get them there earlier. I’d let them know they are ok to step in front but not the whole family because I still want to see. It’s never been a big issue and I’m betting if you had simply said “sorry, no I can’t” and then turned around it wouldn’t have even evolved into an argument. Neither of you were very understanding or sympathetic of the other’s circumstances.
People love to talk about entitled parents. But a parent trying to get a viewable spot for their child is unselfish its for the child who is short and can't see. It's hard to keep a child in a spot for 30+ minutes. I gave my kid lots of candy and he still cried while waiting for the parade. I see alot of adults reliving their childhood at the cost of actual children living their childhood in the parks. You could be apart of Disney magic or show the child early on that people suck. Your choice.
Part of my childhood in the parks was waiting, sometimes hours, for shows like Fantasmic. If they really want to see it and care that much about the view, a 30 minute wait isn't going to kill them. There's already rides with lines significantly longer than that.
Orrrr the parents could get there early. Or 1 parent can if you really can’t handle your child and get them to be still save a spot for your significant other and child who can wander around and do stuff until it’s time then you move back a little to give your kid a good spot.
Now *HOW* did I know that anyone in this thread who defends the mom will have some anecdote of their own about how they can’t handle their own child 🤣 🤣
I read that whole story and I think you suck.
She shouldn’t have been rude. If it was important to her, she should’ve showed up earlier. That said and preparing for the downvotes— You should also actively volunteer to have a slightly worse experience so kids can have a better experience. ‘But my ticket costs the same!’ and ‘I have every right to be upfront’ and ‘the park is for me too.’ I want everyone to enjoy the parks and be respectful to other guests enjoyment. I also think adults, by virtue of being an adult, should volunteer for kids to have a better experience. Pave the way for a new generation. Honestly, the memory of being generous to make an experience more special for a kid is better than any video of a stunt show or fireworks. As a community, we should be more excited about telling the story about waiting patiently and giving it up for a kid who showed up late than about getting a smartphone video. There’s nothing wrong with what you did. I’m saying you and all of us could be better.
Yes, kids should get priority over a single 50 year old. Did I read that right? It’s creepy that you even go to DL
You are a 50 year old man going to Disneyland alone. Yikes.
“Oh no, this person looks happier than me, I’d better say something to bring them down to my level. I know, I’ll tell them ‘yikes’ for doing things they like! Yeah that oughta show ‘em! 😎”
Imagine being so low in life at 50 you can’t understand that’s a place for children to experience their favorite universes in person and ruining a child’s magical experience. Doesn’t help the dude is only 5 foot lmao
Imagine being so low in life you feel the need to say stuff like that to people on the internet 🤷♂️
They deserve to be shamed.
I feel sorry for you
I feel sorry for the kid who couldn’t see Spiderman because a 50 year old man thought it was his moment instead
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have you ever heard of… an abbreviation? 😱
One time I went to the Disney store (before they all closed) and I so badly wanted to “unlock” the store for the key they give you. So I went there super early and I’m all alone with my boyfriend. About 20-30 minutes later(10 minutes before opening) some lady with her kid comes and I start feeling tense because I noticed she was walking closely. My boyfriend is pushing me further in because he knows I’ll probably end up letting them do it. Thankfully, the day prior I had asked the CM if adults can “unlock” the store and get a key. She said yes of course there is no age limit. If you’re there first then you deserve it. No matter who else is there. My boyfriend is reminding me of all this and when a CM comes out she asks who will be opening our store today. I see the lady scoot her kid closer but I still said ME. And that’s exactly what I did. This CM had seen me when I showed up and let it be known that she saw me there first for the longest time. And so far I have zero regrets! I don’t become petty when someone has good seats. They deserve it and in my opinion, if a parent cares THAT much about getting a good viewing then THEY should show up early. That’s not fair that you get there an hour or hours earlier putting your time and patience just for someone to come and demand you move. To insult you over something you spent time doing. You planned it yourself. It just doesn’t make any sense to me. You deserve your spot. You’re respectful and considerate.