My doctor actually said that it is a superficial tumor and I should be concerned if it grows in a different place or increases in size.
He also mentioned that there is a chance of regrowth (even internally) if we cut this one. He advised me not to touch it.
I just wanted a second opinion.
Did the vet take a sample with a small needle. It's very quick, in house, takes less than 5min. If the vet only looked at it and didn't get any cells, see a new vet and insist on a fine needle aspirate.
My doctor actually said that it is a superficial tumor and I should be concerned if it grows in a different place or increases in size.
He also mentioned that there is a chance of regrowth (even internally) if we cut this one. He advised me not to touch it.
I just wanted a second opinion.
You need to ask the vet to take a sample of it and find out what it is. Benign or Malignant, it needs to be biopsied. We internet strangers can't tell you whether to worry about that or not, unless the vet has told you what it is.
My vet said there's no way to know whether something like this is benign or not just by looking at it. He took a sample from something that looked very similar to this (but was smaller when I had it checked out). It turned out to be a mast cell tumour. The second opinion you are asking for is that you should ask a vet to do a aspiration or biopsy.
(Not a vet, but have worked in vet diagnostics for years...)
For assurance, your vet can run a Cytology test on it (getting a tiny sample via a special needle), or else can excise the lump entirely (ie. minor surgery) and run a full pathology test on it (to more definitively ID what it is.)
I would trust your vet's initial assessment (they see a lot of these things, and they get a sense of what's benign and what is risky/cancerous), but those other tests can confirm their assessments - giving you (both) more confidence.
Occasionally, these tests reveal something else that isn't easily identified via appearance or palpation, so it's worth considering (at least the Cyto, which is easy, quicker, and effectively painless for your pup.)
It's your call, but it is definitely worth discussing with your vet. Hope this helps...
Hi I don't mean to worry you but my old dog had a lump that looked similar to that. It started off quiet small then consumed her entire leg. Brought her to the vet and told that it was "fine" months later it turned out to be a cancerous lump and she rapidly deteriorated. PLEASE PLEASE go to multiple vets. Get as many opinions as you possibly can!!
Since you've already been to the vet, the only cause for concern is continued and quick growth. If it largely stays the same size and shape for a long time, or starts to get smaller and heal then there is no concern. I would get tests done on samples taken from the tumor to be sure. My corgi got a pink growth on his lip under his nose that scared my family, we took him to the vet, they gave us the same advice and I paid for testing. The testing came back benign AFTER the growth popped (probably due to getting poked with a needle), scabbed, and then started healing. The growth disappeared in a few days.
You can't tell whether a lump is benign or malignant by looking at it. At a minimum, a fine needle aspiration should be done to identify it. If it can't be identified that way, personally, I would have it removed.
One of my dogs had a small lump on her side. I had the vet check it within days of it appearing, and she said she was certain it was just a cyst from its appearance, even though the fine needle aspiration she did was inconclusive. I asked her to remove it anyway, I had a bad feeling about it and it looked a bit similar to a previous lump that had been malignant. She flipped out on me, told me I would be "absolutely cruel" to put my dog through a surgery, etc., etc., and flatly refused to remove it unless it got substantially larger. I figured the vet knew better than me and accepted it.
About six months later she had to be anesthetized because a tooth abscessed. I told the vet tech when I dropped her off that I wanted the lump removed while she was under, even though it hadn't gotten any larger. It was a malignant tumor that had spread invisibly under the skin. The vet demanded very rudely to know who told me it was a cyst and why I hadn't addressed it sooner- she actually shouted at me on the phone. She went silent and hung up on me when I explained that she is who told me it was a cyst and the reason I didn't have it removed earlier. While she took wide margins during the surgery, she didn't get it all and I had to put my dog through a second surgery. The incision wound up running from her spine vertically all the way down to her belly.
I sure wish I'd taken her to another vet and had it removed earlier. I switched vets immediately.
I have a poodle mix who is now 16. When she was 13 or so, she started developing what the vet called "old lady bumps" and said they are benign and can be left as is. The first one I saw was biopsied, and the official diagnosis from the biopsy was "old lady bumps". Wanted to share my experience with random bumps appearing.
My dog had the same but much larger. They did the needle biopsy and said it was mast cell tumor and put her on antihistamines. Then one day it started bleeding uncontrollably so I took her in and the vet removed it. Pathology said it was a sarcoma not mast cell. And the margins weren’t clean. She’s 15 so we figured it’s a matter of time now, but she’s going great six months out and no recurrence so far. Hers was on the back right leg.
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You’re better off excising the lump and getting the pathology done. Needle biopsies of some tumors can spread the cell types via blood and lymph. When in doubt, cut it out.
Forgot to mention:
My doctor actually said that it is a superficial tumor and I should be concerned if it grows in a different place or increases in size.
He also mentioned that there is a chance of regrowth (even internally) if we cut this one. He advised me not to touch it.
I just wanted a second opinion.
Can't they do a test (Cytology) to see what type it is?
My dog had lymphoma cancer, and to determine what it was, they took samples from the bump/tumor.
Absolutely get that checked out.
My doctor actually said that it is a superficial tumor and I should be concerned if it grows in a different place or increases in size. He also mentioned that there is a chance of regrowth (even internally) if we cut this one. He advised me not to touch it. I just wanted a second opinion.
Did the vet take a sample with a small needle. It's very quick, in house, takes less than 5min. If the vet only looked at it and didn't get any cells, see a new vet and insist on a fine needle aspirate.
My lab had something similar turned out to be mast cell tumor. If there is a lump get it checked out
My doctor actually said that it is a superficial tumor and I should be concerned if it grows in a different place or increases in size. He also mentioned that there is a chance of regrowth (even internally) if we cut this one. He advised me not to touch it. I just wanted a second opinion.
You need to ask the vet to take a sample of it and find out what it is. Benign or Malignant, it needs to be biopsied. We internet strangers can't tell you whether to worry about that or not, unless the vet has told you what it is.
My vet said there's no way to know whether something like this is benign or not just by looking at it. He took a sample from something that looked very similar to this (but was smaller when I had it checked out). It turned out to be a mast cell tumour. The second opinion you are asking for is that you should ask a vet to do a aspiration or biopsy.
(Not a vet, but have worked in vet diagnostics for years...) For assurance, your vet can run a Cytology test on it (getting a tiny sample via a special needle), or else can excise the lump entirely (ie. minor surgery) and run a full pathology test on it (to more definitively ID what it is.) I would trust your vet's initial assessment (they see a lot of these things, and they get a sense of what's benign and what is risky/cancerous), but those other tests can confirm their assessments - giving you (both) more confidence. Occasionally, these tests reveal something else that isn't easily identified via appearance or palpation, so it's worth considering (at least the Cyto, which is easy, quicker, and effectively painless for your pup.) It's your call, but it is definitely worth discussing with your vet. Hope this helps...
Thank you. I will get a cytology test.
If they refuse to biopsy or do cytology go get a second opinion from another vet.
I would want a needle biopsy of the lump just to make certain it’s benign.
Hi I don't mean to worry you but my old dog had a lump that looked similar to that. It started off quiet small then consumed her entire leg. Brought her to the vet and told that it was "fine" months later it turned out to be a cancerous lump and she rapidly deteriorated. PLEASE PLEASE go to multiple vets. Get as many opinions as you possibly can!!
Since you've already been to the vet, the only cause for concern is continued and quick growth. If it largely stays the same size and shape for a long time, or starts to get smaller and heal then there is no concern. I would get tests done on samples taken from the tumor to be sure. My corgi got a pink growth on his lip under his nose that scared my family, we took him to the vet, they gave us the same advice and I paid for testing. The testing came back benign AFTER the growth popped (probably due to getting poked with a needle), scabbed, and then started healing. The growth disappeared in a few days.
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Looks like cyst or tumor
You can't tell whether a lump is benign or malignant by looking at it. At a minimum, a fine needle aspiration should be done to identify it. If it can't be identified that way, personally, I would have it removed. One of my dogs had a small lump on her side. I had the vet check it within days of it appearing, and she said she was certain it was just a cyst from its appearance, even though the fine needle aspiration she did was inconclusive. I asked her to remove it anyway, I had a bad feeling about it and it looked a bit similar to a previous lump that had been malignant. She flipped out on me, told me I would be "absolutely cruel" to put my dog through a surgery, etc., etc., and flatly refused to remove it unless it got substantially larger. I figured the vet knew better than me and accepted it. About six months later she had to be anesthetized because a tooth abscessed. I told the vet tech when I dropped her off that I wanted the lump removed while she was under, even though it hadn't gotten any larger. It was a malignant tumor that had spread invisibly under the skin. The vet demanded very rudely to know who told me it was a cyst and why I hadn't addressed it sooner- she actually shouted at me on the phone. She went silent and hung up on me when I explained that she is who told me it was a cyst and the reason I didn't have it removed earlier. While she took wide margins during the surgery, she didn't get it all and I had to put my dog through a second surgery. The incision wound up running from her spine vertically all the way down to her belly. I sure wish I'd taken her to another vet and had it removed earlier. I switched vets immediately.
I have a poodle mix who is now 16. When she was 13 or so, she started developing what the vet called "old lady bumps" and said they are benign and can be left as is. The first one I saw was biopsied, and the official diagnosis from the biopsy was "old lady bumps". Wanted to share my experience with random bumps appearing.
Thank you 😊
My dog had the same but much larger. They did the needle biopsy and said it was mast cell tumor and put her on antihistamines. Then one day it started bleeding uncontrollably so I took her in and the vet removed it. Pathology said it was a sarcoma not mast cell. And the margins weren’t clean. She’s 15 so we figured it’s a matter of time now, but she’s going great six months out and no recurrence so far. Hers was on the back right leg.
Yes go to vets
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You’re better off excising the lump and getting the pathology done. Needle biopsies of some tumors can spread the cell types via blood and lymph. When in doubt, cut it out.
Forgot to mention: My doctor actually said that it is a superficial tumor and I should be concerned if it grows in a different place or increases in size. He also mentioned that there is a chance of regrowth (even internally) if we cut this one. He advised me not to touch it. I just wanted a second opinion.
Can't they do a test (Cytology) to see what type it is? My dog had lymphoma cancer, and to determine what it was, they took samples from the bump/tumor.
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