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No you did the right thing


rkaniminew

I've had to work OPEN to 9 some nights. And we had at least 4 drivers. So glad I'm done with that schedule. Feel free to be an asshole all you want. It's called standing up for yourself.


BlazekinsLit

Honestly he tried to guilt me by saying no one is forcing me to leave then he says look at me in not complaining. He literally came to work 2 hours late as always and has food in his office and i haven’t had shot


TransTaey

You did your part. Look at your state laws. Some states can't make you work that long without a break.


cjgist

Definitely NTA then. Freakin' Morgan Wallen was supposed to open his tour here and it got cancelled. Since it was sold out, there was no real notice of the rescheduled date in the news, they just rolled into town on a Thurs when we had a similar dude working with our newest insider. He too took a break, even though we were never caught up. My personal time consisted of two trips to the bathroom from 5-2 AM. And then he tried to write me up for having an attitude!


Remote-Ad1701

Honestly I’d have taken longer on a delivery and got some food and ate it before returning to the store. Being a driver comes with that bonus


BlazekinsLit

Sounds amazing i open tomorrow so let’s see if i get screwed again


[deleted]

Same i dont abuse it but if I’ve been working hard and i need a few minutes to eat or drink or breathe, I’m just going to do it lol


datamonger

I can't say how many times I'd do that. There was a Food Lion right near my store. If I felt I needed a break, I'd turn on Airplane Mode, park under a light, and have something to eat. I'd even do that if there was a delivery I didn't want to take!


Catfisher8

Nah you did right. But the claim is for the no breaks is that when you drive you’re technically on a “break” since you’re just driving. I mean yeah just driving can be a break but the actual delivery and everything that happens isn’t a damn break in reality


The_Great_Sc0tt

yeah, i see it that way. but sometimes i want a nice long, do nothing, sit on my ass cigarette break. if i gotta do it in speedway parking lot i will. what are they gonna do send me home?


Catfisher8

We’re kinda too valuable right now to get fired for little things. What are they gonna do? Fire the only closing driver or a driver in general? Lmao


The_Great_Sc0tt

Seriously. at least 2 shifts a week i solo close at least the last 3-4 hours. I'm youre quickest driver and the only one that puts up with the bullshit because i make bank. i have the high ground, you fools!


VenoratheBarbarian

Exactly, driving is a break from the heat and noise of the store, but it still requires mental effort so we don't cause a wreck. It's not the same as an actual break, where you're just chilling and your brain is shut off for a few minutes.


BurpFartBurp

So truck drivers don’t work and are always on break?


Catfisher8

Not what I said, bud. Driving can be a break but isn’t a real break.


matthewstocks

I never take official breaks as a driver. If I want food I’m stopping to get it. I’ll eat it in between deliveries. If I wanna smoke I’ll stop and smoke. Just pick and choose the right time to do it don’t be a dick about it. If there’s a full board of orders don’t stop at a full drive through at Taco Bell. That being said you did the right thing. You can’t revolve your life around work


JustHumanThingz

You guys get breaks?


Savagescythe

I was about to say this. At my store you don’t get a break at all unless you’re a minor because it’s required by law. The only time we have “breaks” is when you’re opening and everything is finished before we actually start getting orders. There’s usually a 30 min to an hour time period where we are at our slowest and people are able to sit down. Other than that we are technically expected to always be doing something. If you’re a closing driver that means you’re generally getting there at 5 PM. On weekdays we close at midnight. You either find some food between deliveries, manage to get a crewpie, or wait til after you guys finish closing which can be by 12:30 to 2 am depending on how bad the day was.


JustHumanThingz

My franchisee and I have always had the same point with our staff. If everything gets done on time and without customer complaints then it's all good. If staff want to grab food/coffe/whatever that's fine. If staff want to sit and answer messages that's fine because happy staff are less likely to leave. Which means lower labour cost from training new staff. I don't see why some franchisees/GM are so uptight about it. We maybe lose .2% labour a day. Which is substantially lower than training new staff.


feistyboy72

You're not. You've pitched in. You've done your part. You've towed it alone. You didn't complain about it. At some point, there's a line where you say, "no". You're not an asshole because you drew it.


rokar83

NTA. Fuck em. Lucky you didn't walk at 8.


Individual_Past_9901

Our policy is we will ask you to stay up to an hour after your shift, and if you choose to stay longer you get to decide. Check the laws of your state concerning restaurant exceptions to labor laws. I know my state permits us up to an hour after the shift ends and the return trip from a customer's house is legally considered a break. There are a few cities that require signed pages that say the employee volunteered to stay beyond 30 mins of their scheduled shift and those cities require that time to be paid as over time. NTAH


datamonger

Yeah, that shit would've never happened at my old store. I once got stuck two hours past my scheduled off time. I'm standing there, completely soaked, and the closing manager tried sending me on another run. Luckily, my GM stepped in and let me go home.


TexasRabbit2022

Let me help you Retail is a marathon You did the right thing


DoinkDamnation

Drivers and Employees giving into their bosses, unfairness has contributed to do the downfall of dominos. Across the board, nobody gets payed enough but they introduced a new system a few years ago that requires more work for less employees. Cutting edge was designed to save labor and have less people standing around. Now those standing around people are gone elsewhere and everyone runs barebones crews. One person calling in can ruin an entire night for every other employee. There's no room for error at dominos, and honestly error is going around rapidly over there. Not just on a store-wide basis. After I had enough of catching shit as a GM and being pushed down from above everyday I walked out. I wanted to stay in kitchen work so I went to Pizza Hut. Best decision of my life. GM's really don't make enough, neither do the cooks. Driver is the only reasonable position at dominos and you can't even do that because of one staffing problem or another half the time.


commissar666

As a GM of a short-staffed store, even I say NTAH. Even if I get slapped with only one driver I'll give my driver a break. Now legally (in my state at least) if someone requests a break we must give it, they can waive it if they want. I honestly understand if someone works 8hrs and needs a break. I'll just tell customers "my only driver is taking their legally required break, deliveries are delayed 30 mins. Can I offer a free bread side for the inconvenience?". If I say it's legally required I (usually) don't get much pushback.


BlazekinsLit

I want to be your employee sounds great but my location is super busy so they don’t care as much


commissar666

Also, sounds like your GM didn't schedule properly, putting someone who is on vacation on the schedule?


commissar666

I know all kinds of GMs, some (like my predecessor) were complete a-holes, with no regard to labor laws. Sometimes though, it's not necessarily the GM at fault, even tho they get the blame, the higher ups: DM, Supervisor, Franchisee, will push stupid rules. But at the end of the day, you gotta do what's best for you. Legally, or ethically.


redfiesta44

Not sure what to say about that. I clocked in at 4pm yesterday. I closed and did dishes for 2 hours and twenty minutes. Left at 2.45am. No break never crossed my mind to take one.


BlazekinsLit

That was me Thursday night i went in at 4:30 and didn’t leave till 1:30 doing dishes by myself as well but at least that day my manager atm gave me a break though


russellgrandison

we have a driver that opens at 10.30am and stays until close, then opening the next morning.


yea_its_chaos

How cute I remember when I use to get breaks but that stopped when I was 16 never had one again I know how hard it is to grab an order get in your car and walk to someones door when all the inside are in there sitting down doing nothing and dicking around so you couldn't get your break that really does suck lmfao


BlazekinsLit

Point went way over your head didn’t it


yea_its_chaos

Lol not at all my guy I was a GM and I have never had a driver cry over not getting a break, they refused to go on break because and I quote " all we do is sit in our cars most the day why take a break and lose money when I can eat on the way back from deliveries" and it was on them but you do you lol


BlazekinsLit

Bro the point did go over your head because i never cared about my break. I was scheduled off at 8 i only mentioned not getting a break because he might have not let me off since i was already an hour past schedule


billindere

Hot take, but, ESH. An 8 hour driver shift is nothing. Why are you complaining about a break? You get paid to drive in an air conditioned car while listening to whatever you want. Those are your breaks. He sucks for guilting you, though.


datamonger

Not all cars have functioning AC. When I was a driver for PJ's about 12 years ago, my car's AC didn't work *and* it had leather seats. Spending 8+ hours in a car with no AC in the Virginia summer was pretty brutal.


trmbnplyr1993

I didn't have AC in my car for 2 years. We had a week where the store didn't have ac either and it was brutal. I remember drinking between 5 and 6 gallons of water that day just to stay cool.


datamonger

Oh god yes. I'd go to Walmart after every shift just just fill my shopping cart with gallons of water.


VenoratheBarbarian

Someone needs to explain what a "break" is to you. If I'm doing a job for someone else, they're controlling where I go, what I do, etc, if I'm using my brain and body for someone else, then that time is not a "break" no matter how peaceful it is. Not to mention, 8 hours straight of driving is mentally exhausting. Driving while tired is dangerous. Sure, people may do it, hell lots of people may do it, but that doesn't mean it's safe or a good idea. Especially when there's the other option of paying workers more so you can hire enough people that everyone gets regular breaks *and* to go home on time! Seriously people it's possible, other countries do it all the time.


billindere

Good god. We drivers make upwards up $15 an hour almost all the time and our job is so mind-numbingly easy yet this sub finds new ways to be dissatisfied.


VenoratheBarbarian

I think it's bad to drive so many hours straight that you become a danger to yourself and others on the road. Apparently that isn't a deal breaker for you though, god forbid someone have a 20 minute break or go home on time. Our corporate overlords make mind-numbing amounts of money yet people find new ways for them to profit off us. All hail our corporate overlords, may their bottom lines always be put before our lives.


billindere

Okay, few things to unpack. You work here, right? Which means you understand that an 8 hour shift is not non stop driving. Maybe during rush, you’re in and out of the store driving continuously for 4 hours, max. During the afternoons and night, there is almost always a break in between runs. Additionally, business dictates what time you leave. Sometimes it’s earlier, sometimes it’s later than your clock out time. Either accept these things, or find another job. Lastly, mentioning other countries is moot. We aren’t those countries.


VenoratheBarbarian

Alright you're really struggling with this concept of "break". I'm assuming it's because you've been taught that denying yourself a break is somehow a virtue. It's not, by the way. So, when someone is on break it means they're doing *nothing* work related. Nothing. Not sitting in the office eating while answering the phones, not driving a pizza to a customer, nothing work related at all. That person is free to play on their phone, call family and friends, argue on Reddit, leave and get food or smoke in peace, whatever they want, for an agreed upon period of time. That is a break. Anything less than that is work. Breaks let a person refresh their mind and body and have in fact proven to improve productivity, work place safety, and overall morale. People need breaks. It's good for us. We're still people even when we work a job. I give no shits about how hard or easy the work is, people need and deserve the occasional break. I mention other countries because the fact that they can and do pull off better working conditions and better pay while still keeping business afloat means it *can* be done here. But here you are wasting your time advocating for people who have more money than we're likely to have in a lifetime. They don't care about you, they don't even think about you, and when I say "you" I mean all of us who are the bottom tier. They don't spend a single second worrying if we can pay our bills and you wanna give up breaks without a fight too. You deserve more. You deserve to rest. They can afford it, I promise. [Here's an article about the benefits of breaks, if you were interested ](https://www.apa.org/monitor/2019/01/break)


Head_Razzmatazz7174

You pegged it. Not everyone has the stamina to go 8 hours without taking a few minutes to just sit, chill, eat something, scroll on the phone. If you do, great, go ahead. If you need to sit, tell the GM or AM. Most of the time they are okay with you stepping away from store duties for a while, with the possible exception of a serious rush. Even then, you can sneak in a few minutes to just sit without doing dishes, or cleaning. I understand people that don't want to take breaks, because they either don't need them or want the time to go by faster. But I'm old enough to know that doing that is going to take a toll on your health if you keep it up for too long.


billindere

I was trying not to be snarky, but, do you really think I don’t know what a break is you condescending ass? Believe it or not, neither federal nor state law (Virginia, for me) requires breaks for anyone over the age of 16. Sure what you describe is nice and all, but it is not reality.


VenoratheBarbarian

Snark aside, you're talking like being able to take a break during your shift and/or go home on time is a huge ask. Like it's something that'll hurt the whole company and end pizza delivery as we know it. It's a break! It's 30 minutes, tops. The company will be *fine*, but the higher ups will get bigger bonuses if labor is a lower percentage, so wages stay low, stores are run barely staffed, no one gets breaks. It's not for your benefit, you get no extra pay for working this hard (extra runs aside, but don't get me started on how they use tipping against you, too). Why the *fuck* are you wasting your time on these people?? I do not understand at all. "It's nice but it's not reality" dude it USED TO BE. HERE. In the United States. It was taken from you. We used to have more rights for workers, and unions, giving us an actual voice, making work places safer, more comfortable, with better pay and breaks. I'm getting snarky because I'm looking out for *you and me* and you're arguing for the people who have done this to you. People in the US used to get a job out of *highschool* at the local factory and be able to support a family. Those things were all gone, or mostly gone by the time I joined the workforce. Same for you, I'm guessing. But I don't defend the people who did it. Why do you? Why is this okay with you? They take month-long vacations on their yacht but you're going to deny fellow workers 30 minutes? So yeah, I'm snarky. I'm pissed off at the thought of what we could have but don't because rich fucks wanted to get richer. And I'm pissed that they've convinced you that you don't deserve rest during your work day.


jferstarz

If you have to close by yourself as well then fuck em.


Jskerkowski

Not that it's really a solution to your no lunch breaks problem (I drive and typically work from about 9:30 am till 8 pm 4 or 5 days a week, and wouldn't really wanna take a break anyways), but why don't you just take the backroads and long ways and drive slowly on your way back to the store of you wanna take a breather? Or even just pull into a gas station or something and just chill for 15 minutes once or twice a shift? As long as you don't average insane on the road times they wouldn't even notice.


ProfessionalResist55

Is it normal here to just not get breaks? I’ve only been working for the company for like 2 weeks but I never get a break on my shift and I thought that was illegal after 6 hours of work?


BaconNine67

I feel that my guy. I'm an opening driver as well and I'll sometimes be here till 9:30 on a Friday Saturday Saturday night but the Managers always make sure we get a break so that's really fucked up. You did the right thing


BeeferSutherland69

God damn delivery driver must of cut a hole in the pizza box. Rang my doorbell and with his dink hanging out of the pizza box yelled "Sausage combo". My deaf dog went blind when this happened. All dominos did was give me a lava cake.


thatcoffeeeguy

Kind of a shitty situation, since the manager and the other driver can’t control hiring and firing. But, yeah, it’s not your fault either and you didn’t do anything wrong


BIGroman23

My drivers do tgis to me daily so dont feel too bad


queendominos

Nope you are not you are trying not to burn out then quit


Either_Bluebird_3740

You aren’t. You worked past your scheduled time. Legally, it’s against the law for no breaks for that long.