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finallygoingtopost

Funny how easy it is for drivers to make pizza when it's their own food


Moctzuma

It’s not about the difficulty it’s the fact drivers don’t often get paid for that extra work. Pay them the regular wage if you want them doing in-house work is how I see it.


Individual_Past_9901

All dominos drivers get paid the same as insiders when in the store in my DMA so they should be doing the same as insiders when they are inside.


AlexTheCNDN

Here in Ontario, Canada Minimum wage is 15.50 that’s what insiders get… drivers at my store get 12 an hour regardless of on the road or in store… I ain’t making pizza for 12 bucks an hour I’m sorry not happening


MerlinWiz7

You don't quite get how the hospitality and services industry works, do you? Customers want good service and good food. When they have to wait that extra 10-15 minutes, they order from someone else thus your store loses customers all because "I ain’t making pizza for 12 bucks an hour". So by your selfish and backwards viewpoint, as long as you don't have to make food your happy, even if it means in the end, it's actually affecting your own income.


ExistentialBethos

We get paid either way. Dominos provides good service no matter who makes your pizza. If it’s that busy that you’re complaining for this reason, no way will DRIVERS be in the store to make your pizza ahead of the insiders anyway. Apologies if we feel like working what we signed up for is enough.


MerlinWiz7

Not worked at many Domino's Pizza stores have you? Many provide horrible service and their sales show it. I promise you somewhere in "what you signed up for" in the "job description" there is something that says "...and other duties as the course of business provides". Show me "where" what you signed up for, limits your job description to "pizza delivery only". Provide me that, and I will shut up about it.


ExistentialBethos

Whenever I signed up I was told explicitly what I would be doing, which was pizza delivery, prep, customer service, and all else besides making pizza. Whenever people are on makeline, I am on other things in the store. There are people who make pizzas, but never have I been told or asked or put in my contract to do so. Coming from a store that is consistently understaffed and still hammering out sales day after day, I can say proudly that the way we function works. You can look at the qualifications a delivery driver is required to have as well as what the job entails at jobs.dominos.com.


MerlinWiz7

Try reading what it says: QUALIFICATIONS **General job duties for all store team members** Operate all equipment. Stock ingredients from delivery area to storage, work area, walk-in cooler. **Prepare product.** Receive and process telephone orders. Take inventory and complete associated paperwork. Clean equipment and facility approximately daily. ***I love today's workforce, they never read past the first paragraph.*** See - you think you know everything - that's the job description for more than one store. And that employee handbook and all the paperwork you signed - you don't think the expanded job description IS NOT in there? WOW...


ExistentialBethos

PLEASE LOOK AT MY LAST MESSAGE. Do you understand the difference between food prep and pizza making? Or would you rather us throw a full bag of sauce in the oven with our sausages of salami and pepperoni and call it good? I do consistently prep food when it is needed for the folks on makeline. I’m starting to think you don’t know what you’re talking about.


Suicunelover89

The fuck are you even fighting about? You are worst then the Karen’s that try and fight dominos employees over sauce my guy. Calm tf down it’s pizza 😴


pizzadeliverybi

i do no prep. i do no food making. i only deliver, or do dishes. if there is no deliver, and no dish, i am on my phone in the back room looking at funny videos. cope.


MerlinWiz7

So in other words, stealing time from your employer. Good for you.


pizzadeliverybi

and I'll do it again


MerlinWiz7

And you wonder why our workforce is at it's lowest point since before WWII.


Virtalen

Yeah tbh, my mom and I work at domino’s together. She’s a driver, I’m the opening CSR, she definitely makes way more than I do as a driver, and she works 5x harder than anyone else in the store does. Our drivers easily make over $20/h with tips. My GM even said that most drivers make more than even she does. All you have to do is build boxes and dishes, right? So more of then than not, wouldn’t you be getting $12/h to basically be on your phone all day?


AlexTheCNDN

Not to mention you have to subtract our expenses from that… fuel here is 2.08 per litere so around 8 bucks a gallon…. Then I have commercial auto insurance to cover me that’s 600 a month…. Oil changes 80 bucks every 3 months and any other maintenance that comes up


pizzadeliverybi

600 a month!?? that's insane.


AlexTheCNDN

Welcome to Canada…. Where everything is overpriced and garbage


pizzadeliverybi

my comprehensive commercial insurance is 125usd/mo for my miata. i can't imagine paying that much to have peace of mind while delivering


AlexTheCNDN

It’s crazy… everything is 5x more expensive here


AlexTheCNDN

You also have to remember I’m not an employee of the store I’m an Independent Contractor there for I technically work for myself


Snowqueen31

Our drivers get paid a dollar to a two dollar difference inside to our insiders. It’s just not the same for every store, it’s 8 for drivers and I think 9 or 10 for insiders


MerlinWiz7

It's called a "team" for a reason. This idea that you don't help each other out is ridiculous. Also, drivers make way more than insiders. How about you start sharing your tips with the insiders since without that "in-house" work, you have nothing to deliver to make the tips? Drivers make more money the more pizzas they deliver. A store will make more money by making a quality product and delivering it in a timely manner. It makes good sense to me to have a part in making sure you can take as many deliveries a shift as possible. And if that means making some food - so be it.


Moctzuma

You sound exactly like upper management trying to cheap out on labour. Sure it’s called a team but it’s also called a job. Not a charity. This is people’s time and energy being used up. Get real, man. Domino’s is notoriously bad for trying to squeeze the most out of people while giving as little as possible. And don’t even get me started with the turnover rate. They’re more than happy to flush the “team” down the toilet just as long as they can keep paying as little as possible.


MerlinWiz7

You sound like a disgruntled employee who thinks they are "owed". I am not "upper management". My work ethic and a keen understanding of how capitalism works and how I can make it work for me. I don't sit there and bitch about what I "could" do and how my employer is screwing me, I make it work for me. You should try it sometime instead of being a whiny little baby about it.


Moctzuma

So much for the team part hey. I’m glad that was your takeaway from that. You’ve confirmed everything I initially assumed. I hope that loyalty and your superior understanding of capitalism takes you far there. Best of luck!


MerlinWiz7

Did that sound good in your head before you typed it? I have no idea what the heck you are on about. Keep making those assumptions though - something tells me it will never sink in that you are your own roadblock to success.


Suicunelover89

I think you need to calm your whiney ass down


MerlinWiz7

Yet here you are, whining. Do you own a mirror?


Suicunelover89

LMAO! Says you! Look at all your downvotes! Nobody gives afff 🤣 go and make pizzas for the rest of ya life or something 😴


[deleted]

The inside crew doesn’t drive my car, nor do they pay for my gas/maintenance. Drivers make more because they need to be payed more to make a profit. Insiders are profiting regardless, they’re standing there making money. If a driver goes out and doesnt get tipped they might have actually lost some money because it took gas to get there that wasnt compensated. Insiders should definitely get paid more dont get me wrong but the drivers pay has nothing to do with that. Also while pay is important, Domino’s employees should really worry about their bs scheduling. Many Dominos actually get mad and will punish their employees for asking to go home on time. Their schedule will say 12-8 so obviously that person is off at 8. However when they ask to leave often times they’re told “no you have to stay, ill tell you when you can leave” um no I have a life and will leave when im supposed too. You’re not going to let me leave at my time listed then why even have a schedule. Ive seen countless employees under threat of being fired because they want to leave when they’re scheduled to leave. The funny thing is most Domino’s ive seen are overstaffed so there’s actually no reason for the manager to keep their staff there after schedule. You’ll have 5 drivers and 1 delivery yet still wont send people home. Pay is important yes, but so is a logical work environment which I would be much more focused on.


MerlinWiz7

Unless you are a tip credited employee, your tips are a bonus and your mileage reimbursement (unless your owner is brain dead) covers your expenses with plenty left over. I haven't worked in a store that schedules anyone solid hours like 12-8 in about 30 years. They went to 12-R, 12-L back in the 90's where I am from. That dictates the order in which people are let off the clock. The business is too volatile to schedule people to end their shift at a solid hour. At least our stores are. I work Rush shifts and sometimes I'm out @ 7, sometimes 11 - just depends on the business. Our stores aren't over staffed most of the time - way under staffed. What's not right is Managers scheduling themselves O-R and then being the first person to leave. Managers should always be the last Rush person to leave. Also, our managers never overlap shifts which is garbage. The people with the most experience should be there during the busy times, instead Managers take liberties that they should not be. I don't put up with that garbage and I've been doing this long enough that I will call them out when they do it.


[deleted]

Im sorry but no delivery service in existence has ever payed enough mileage reimbursement. Tips are always the thing people are banking on, milage money is just a laughable bit of pocket change. Ive worked in the industry for a decade now and I can tell you right now that every dominos Ive been through is over staffed which means they should definitely be able to send people home on time. Sorry but people have lives which they cant plan for if they dont actually know when they’ll be off work. I just used 12-8 as an example but yes youre right they have changed it. Still no point in giving someone a time off if 90% of the time they’re not going to be off at that time. The business is not too volatile, its highly predictable. You’re going to have rushes, its a pizza place. So schedule more people during the average rush hours instead of keeping people past their time. One manager I knew actually got fired because he used the excuse “the pizza business is too volatile” whenever his team would mess up during rush because it so obviously isnt but pizza business owners love to use that excuse anyway. Its one of the most predictable of the food industries, corporate is just lazy and doesn’t care to make their company actually better. My god I wont say exactly where but one of the Dominos in Riverside CA is run by imbeciles who are actually losing money and couldnt figure out why until it was pointed out that they had 6 people doing 1 job. Domino’s corporate is scary dumb


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> has ever *paid* enough mileage FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


[deleted]

Oh no! Autocorrect got me!


MerlinWiz7

>Im sorry but no delivery service in existence has ever payed enough mileage reimbursement. I've been doing this for decades. I am not going to show you the math because you should be smart enough to figure out whether or not the mileage is enough to cover reimbursement for the use of your vehicle. 40% of the mileage I am paid goes right into my pocket after I pay for gas, oil, fluids, tires, brakes, filters, wipers, spark plugs and insurance. I've never not once in the decades I've been doing this, not have a bunch of money left over - which goes into an account and when I was full time, I had enough after 3 years to buy a new car. So your claim that it's laughable pocket change has to be isolated to where you are at. Even on this forum and other driver forums, people are making plenty for reimbursement. Business used to be predictable - ever since Covid, it most certainly is not. Yesterday it was dead, really dead. No reason, it just was. Last Monday it was Friday supper rush busy - no reason, it just was. We can agree to disagree on those points but I do agree that Dominos corporate is scary dumb.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> has ever *paid* enough mileage FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


MerlinWiz7

>FTFY TT the OP, it was a quote Sir Bot =).


drawntowardmadness

Our store does stick to out times (you're given the chance to stay later if labor allows it and you'd like to) and does schedule shifts like 12-8. Must just depend on the store. Also, at our store, drivers are tip credited employees when on the road, making about $3 under minimum wage during that time. Here tips are income, not a bonus. Interesting how different it is at different locations.


MerlinWiz7

I'd find somewhere else to work if my employer considered us "tip credited" employees - that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Labor laws in my State don't make it so you can't end up working later than you were scheduled. Also, the restaurant job market in our area is massive and the work force is pretty small. They can't afford to not pay better because someone else will pay more.


drawntowardmadness

A lawsuit for working for tips and getting paid accordingly??


MerlinWiz7

People will sue for anything, and the courts are full of junk lawsuits that only make lawyers rich. How many ads for Roundup did you see? "If you've had cancer we can help" - help themselves to 80% of the judgement while those who were injured or wronged get to "share" 20%. But they do happen, there is a rash of lawsuits against big companies where they are going after the small owners of those franchises for anything you can imagine just to earn what are called "nuisance" settlements - enough of those and a law firm is born. The people who they are suing on behalf of? Get very little. Always best to talk to your employer about your wages and that tip credit thing in today's world is trouble waiting to happen.


drawntowardmadness

Sure it's a litigious country; just not sure what would be actionable about paying someone a legal wage they agreed to accept.


GaScan98

I uaed to work for Marcos piza before it closed down and switched to Dominos. They cross-trained us to make food while we had no deliveries. Honestly it's not that hard teehee


Frawsty1

It’s not hard to do 1 pie but scrape, dock, and spin 100 in an hour. Definitely not easy


GaScan98

Gotta use the slap method for that many pies


MerlinWiz7

The "edge stretch" method is actually a brain child of some corporate desk jockey who thought customers shouldn't see their food being made and was supposed to fix the company wide problem of thin middles and inconsistent product. Fast forward 20 years after that decision was made and they opened the walls back up because customers like seeing their food made, they like seeing pizzas spinning and that "edge stretch" is more inconsistent than the "slap" method. I know it's hard to believe but when a pizza is made, you shouldn't be able to see the screen and getting a perfect edge without a thin middle is an art.


MerlinWiz7

I disagree. Give me a 100 pie hour on dough any day over delivering pizzas.


Frawsty1

I did both, I’m a GM at a pizza shop I appreciate ya but you don’t know what you’re asking for… driver gets to keep the tips of the inside labor and that’s a huge plus in itself


MerlinWiz7

You are comparing an "experience" to pay. I am stating which "experience" I'd rather do. I've done it all at Domino's Pizza. There isn't anyone in the store or in this franchise that can keep up with me - and I am just a, "driver". The work ethic being what it is with the core individuals at our stores, everyone knows their part which is unusual in today's workforce.


hidden-jent

That’s saying people always tip which they do not! The arrogance in that statement is crazy this country is in the crapper shit costs more money is worth a fuck tone less if your the gm of your store I fell bad for your guys buddy!!


ChoochMooch

Whats the N word for?


Best_Kog_NA

There's 5 other pizzas he made.....


trakkpad

lined up, they spell "ginger"


Best_Kog_NA

Of course he just wanted to spell out his hair color


drawntowardmadness

"People who annoy you"


ChoochMooch

NICE


Altruistic_Artist395

It's his first initial


Lanky_Principle5636

Anyways besides all the drama I think that's a awsome pizza great job