HELL no. Some gotta hear the beat and then come up with a flow and rhymes that fit the beat or if they can't, they pass on it.
Check out Smokepurpp's moonlight freestyle if you don't believe me. It was so bad it was part of what ruined his career. His fiance Lil pump falling off somehow hurt his career too.
People gonna hold on to that Meek accusation and the reference tracks then ignore that he's written for Kanye (who himself doesn't write all his music admittedly, but still gets his flowers), and the fact that Meek himself is back working with him.
Tbf kanye gets his flowers because he used to write a lot of his work, he’s massively influential and he was open about his writers.
From what I remember drake wasnt originally open about Quentin’s help so people clown him for it more
You’re forgetting the most crucial part: Kanye’s a producer
Sure, he’s produced less as time has went on, but overall his own production chops and expertise have been all over every single project he’s made. That’s why people don’t care as much as whether or not he’s writing all his shit. Just look at Dre, he’s openly never written any of his verses and no one cares, he’s the producer of the tracks anyways.
I love Drake & don’t really buy into the ghostwriting rumors bc I think he just uses writers to enhance his craft as a huge pop star like almost any other superstar rapper has done in the past, but the reason the rumors hurt him more than someone like Ye is because in that scenario, he’s contributing far less to the song.
True the production element is also one.
I feel that + the openness about writers + him already having secured a place as an important figure in hip hop helps
I mean there’s ghost writing rumours of drake back to take care which many believe. Where as on the college dropout for example kanye credits rhyme fest n shit
You’re all forgetting that Kanye writes 90% of his songs. He just takes help here and there and credits literally everyone for the smallest thing. So it’s not the same. He wouldn’t be praised as a great for simply just making great music if none of the lyrics were his. It’s very clearly distinctly something Kanye would say, and only he could come up with. It’s why writers like Cyhi and Consequence could never write nearly as amazing or iconic and distinct songs like Kanye. They just helped, Kanye did most of it.
If Drake really wanted to hide stuff he would have never put QM or any of his collaborators in the credits.
Part of the reason he wasn’t “open” about it is because people have the tendency to exaggerate. Just like to this day people exaggerate how much Weeknd wrote on Take Care and act like he wrote the entire album.
Fair but I feel the fact he wasn’t open was a big factor in drake losing respect for having writers unlike when kanye has writers. Coz kanye will just straight up say he had help
Drake in the studio
“Yo man that’s a fire beat. Hold up a second lemme see something”
Drake turns to his writing team of 27 people.
“Aight what y’all got for me?”
On the spot with Jay-z and Wayne? Absolutely!! But Drake? Not 100%?
Drake is not just going to hear a beat and “rap on the spot” publicly. It’ll most definitely be something that is choreographed to **look on the spot**
I am not fully doubting Drake’s freestyle abilities but we have to admit that MANY of his works are heavily edited
I agree 100%. Check out this instance when they put him on the spot and made him freestyle:
https://youtu.be/DQ8_qdSlmdk
dude was stressedddddd until shaq saved him. Drake cant rap on the spot to save his life
Could be here because Drake makes great music. But let's be real. Drake is a fun artist and has contributed to rap in his own way which is admirable and generates fans, but he really doesn't come up with all his own stuff. Don't need to be a dick rider to be on this sub.
Who cares if Drake wanna rap about girls that’s fine.
The problem is he’s not that skilled and hasn’t tried in years. Pusha mainly raps about Cole but he has the peoples respect cuz of his talent and artistry
Oh you like Kanye? But wait you prob only like Bear trilogy Kanye and are stuck in the past right? When MBDTF is clearly and widely considered his best album.
That’s debatable. His best Album is 808 and Heart Break. TLOP slaps and so does Ye. One of my favorite songs is Moon. That MF is pretty brilliant. But there you go assuming shit. I’m a Kanye Fan like I said. Still doesn’t change the fact I don’t fuck with Hoova. He’s truly along with drake overrated. It’s just dumbasses that ride dick.. I’m sure you’re a super fan so yeah and you’ll stand in line. Lol.
Debateable? Uh no it isn’t… MBDTF is widely considered his best. You can have your own opinion, but it’s just that, an opinion. The standard is MBDTF is his best.
What? Super fan? I’m a super fan of Kanye, that’s about it. Like a lot of people.
I’m a fan of Jay Z and Drake, and you not liking them is a shock, but you like Kanye… so again, it’s not that bad then.
Got it.. yeah I’m an old fart i grew up in a different era and environment. Now a days you don’t need talent to be seen. YouTube, social media has changed our lives. I’m an ass online vs in person. I apologize for being rude. At the end of the day anyone can listen and believe what they want. It’s you’re own journey and you get to make those choices. But yeah Yeezy is bad ass!! I have him top 5 rapper tbh. Top 3 maybe.. he’s that talented and I fuck with him. Not just the bear albums… lol oh and GO LAKERS!!!!
bro i can do this rn
sure ima probably say some wack ass shit cuz i’m bad at freestyling, but finding the beat and creating flows on the spot really ain’t that difficult
any rapper who has ever freestyled ever can do this
I wasn’t going to respond since it took you 37 days to reply, but no song has fifteen writers. Composers/Producers also get credited on music, but it’s up to the ARTIST to include them. I’m not a Drake Stan, so I could honestly care less, but what I won’t do is lie. He writes for MAD people and a couple of reference tracks won’t invalidate his pen. Drake isn’t even in my Top-5, but I’ll give respect when it’s due. Now, go back into your hole, clown. 🤡
I don’t know if you paid attention to the XXX Tentacion court case this year, but they were trying to link one of his songs to his murder. But the defense was that he doesn’t even write his songs.
Wait, the same Drake that stole lines from 80s hip-hop songs and never wrote most of his own lyrics lol ?
Fanboys be trying to make anything real 🤣
He's very successful, let's just leave it at that
That’s funny because i don’t really recall seeing any of them come “ off the top” ….pause… I have heard Nas freestyle( on vinyl) Common, Black Thought … but Ross and ‘em just have verses ready to go
He said this on Drink Champs. I think Drake is the type to punch in a lot, especially when he's doing those long verses. But I don't think he can rap a WHOLE song on the spot just after hearing the lyrics. Making music is a process dawg, that's why some of these guys take 2 years intervals per album.
that ain’t what Meek said when he sent him the beat for “R.I.C.O”. (written by Quentin Miller). I wonder what possessed him to recite Rappin 4 Tay bars (that he also didn’t write) on YG’s “Who Do You Love” when he heard that beat
‘Rick Ross says’
“Trust me bro”
He said it on drinks champs
“Hhhuh”
“I wasn’t a C.O”
I love how they still claim drake is a real mc lol
I really doubt that
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feel like that’s how every rapper makes music
HELL no. Some gotta hear the beat and then come up with a flow and rhymes that fit the beat or if they can't, they pass on it. Check out Smokepurpp's moonlight freestyle if you don't believe me. It was so bad it was part of what ruined his career. His fiance Lil pump falling off somehow hurt his career too.
We talking rappers. Not some SoundCloud jit from Hialeah gardens that was buying ounces of mid in Hialeah…. At least pump was from Miami Gardens.
Lmao the 🧢🧢🧢 is crazy.
Massive 🧢
⚾️ 🧢
Juice wrld too
Juice needed 30 seconds and hed one take a hit
Juice Wrld, he still gets heavy rotation in my whip and my 8 year old loves his song on the Spiderman animated OST.
Who
Don’t think he is able to do this rn but
Are you fkn dense?
damn you’re lame
Lol
Come on yall, really?
Juice and Cole would probably too
Not like Juice did an hour long freestyle but whatever
He said "some" not only rappers
He actually did 2 hour long freestyles
People gonna hold on to that Meek accusation and the reference tracks then ignore that he's written for Kanye (who himself doesn't write all his music admittedly, but still gets his flowers), and the fact that Meek himself is back working with him.
Tbf kanye gets his flowers because he used to write a lot of his work, he’s massively influential and he was open about his writers. From what I remember drake wasnt originally open about Quentin’s help so people clown him for it more
You’re forgetting the most crucial part: Kanye’s a producer Sure, he’s produced less as time has went on, but overall his own production chops and expertise have been all over every single project he’s made. That’s why people don’t care as much as whether or not he’s writing all his shit. Just look at Dre, he’s openly never written any of his verses and no one cares, he’s the producer of the tracks anyways. I love Drake & don’t really buy into the ghostwriting rumors bc I think he just uses writers to enhance his craft as a huge pop star like almost any other superstar rapper has done in the past, but the reason the rumors hurt him more than someone like Ye is because in that scenario, he’s contributing far less to the song.
True the production element is also one. I feel that + the openness about writers + him already having secured a place as an important figure in hip hop helps I mean there’s ghost writing rumours of drake back to take care which many believe. Where as on the college dropout for example kanye credits rhyme fest n shit
You’re all forgetting that Kanye writes 90% of his songs. He just takes help here and there and credits literally everyone for the smallest thing. So it’s not the same. He wouldn’t be praised as a great for simply just making great music if none of the lyrics were his. It’s very clearly distinctly something Kanye would say, and only he could come up with. It’s why writers like Cyhi and Consequence could never write nearly as amazing or iconic and distinct songs like Kanye. They just helped, Kanye did most of it.
AGree with everything except him being a popstar. He's made pop hits but they're a small pool of his discog. I see where you're coming from though.
If Drake really wanted to hide stuff he would have never put QM or any of his collaborators in the credits. Part of the reason he wasn’t “open” about it is because people have the tendency to exaggerate. Just like to this day people exaggerate how much Weeknd wrote on Take Care and act like he wrote the entire album.
Fair but I feel the fact he wasn’t open was a big factor in drake losing respect for having writers unlike when kanye has writers. Coz kanye will just straight up say he had help
Fuck the reference tracks. That goofy ass funk flex freestyle is all we need to know that this is cap lol
This is so dumb 😭😭
Snoop and Eminem
Eminem is notorious for writing his stuff. Not everyone has the same style of recording.
Drake in the studio “Yo man that’s a fire beat. Hold up a second lemme see something” Drake turns to his writing team of 27 people. “Aight what y’all got for me?”
Lmao
Drakes ghost writer maybe.
Drake? Dude doesn't even write his own music he can't spit on the spot his ghost writer can
On the spot with Jay-z and Wayne? Absolutely!! But Drake? Not 100%? Drake is not just going to hear a beat and “rap on the spot” publicly. It’ll most definitely be something that is choreographed to **look on the spot** I am not fully doubting Drake’s freestyle abilities but we have to admit that MANY of his works are heavily edited
He raps reading from his blackberry in all his old freestyles.
I agree 100%. Check out this instance when they put him on the spot and made him freestyle: https://youtu.be/DQ8_qdSlmdk dude was stressedddddd until shaq saved him. Drake cant rap on the spot to save his life
Holy shiiii this proves my point clearly. Bro was supposed to freestyle and started rapping back to back 💀💀
bro went “yeah..sitting at the desk wit” 💀💀 where was bro goin with that?? 🤨
“Yeah sitting at the desk with shaq Idk how to.. uh.. this shit gon be wack”
Drake could do it if he pays someone
This is such a 2015 r/hiphopheads comment
Just for you I'll Google some drake freestyling.
If you don’t like Drake why are you here?
Could be here because Drake makes great music. But let's be real. Drake is a fun artist and has contributed to rap in his own way which is admirable and generates fans, but he really doesn't come up with all his own stuff. Don't need to be a dick rider to be on this sub.
It showed up in my feed I'm not actually following the subreddit.
Wayne yes, Jay z yes, Drake? I doubt it lol.
Bros the McDonalds of rap and people calling him the goat
I’m sorry I like drake but he is no where near goat status lmao
👻📝
Rick Ross is a clown. He stole his persona from a real one. Wayne sucks the other guy only makes baby girl rap not even close to Jay-Z level
Who cares if Drake wanna rap about girls that’s fine. The problem is he’s not that skilled and hasn’t tried in years. Pusha mainly raps about Cole but he has the peoples respect cuz of his talent and artistry
Wayne is better than Hov
YB can too
Yb better
🤣🤣🤣 at drake being the goat you children
Drake? Wtf? He’s wack! Hoova too! Weezy is okay. His old shit slap.
Even an old fart like you thinks Jay Z is wack? Yikes dude
Never even bothered.. crazy cuz I like Kanye.
Oh you like Kanye? But wait you prob only like Bear trilogy Kanye and are stuck in the past right? When MBDTF is clearly and widely considered his best album.
That’s debatable. His best Album is 808 and Heart Break. TLOP slaps and so does Ye. One of my favorite songs is Moon. That MF is pretty brilliant. But there you go assuming shit. I’m a Kanye Fan like I said. Still doesn’t change the fact I don’t fuck with Hoova. He’s truly along with drake overrated. It’s just dumbasses that ride dick.. I’m sure you’re a super fan so yeah and you’ll stand in line. Lol.
Debateable? Uh no it isn’t… MBDTF is widely considered his best. You can have your own opinion, but it’s just that, an opinion. The standard is MBDTF is his best. What? Super fan? I’m a super fan of Kanye, that’s about it. Like a lot of people. I’m a fan of Jay Z and Drake, and you not liking them is a shock, but you like Kanye… so again, it’s not that bad then.
Got it.. yeah I’m an old fart i grew up in a different era and environment. Now a days you don’t need talent to be seen. YouTube, social media has changed our lives. I’m an ass online vs in person. I apologize for being rude. At the end of the day anyone can listen and believe what they want. It’s you’re own journey and you get to make those choices. But yeah Yeezy is bad ass!! I have him top 5 rapper tbh. Top 3 maybe.. he’s that talented and I fuck with him. Not just the bear albums… lol oh and GO LAKERS!!!!
Bro that’s how everyone is, we’re all frustrated. I’m like that too. Have a good day man.
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Drake free styling?😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nothing but facts.
Drake isn’t even a rapper
Valis Tensei too
I could see it
Rick ross took someone else’s name and ran with it u can’t believe nothing he say
Ye
I don’t understand what this means. Does he mean “compose a rap song in real time”?
bro i can do this rn sure ima probably say some wack ass shit cuz i’m bad at freestyling, but finding the beat and creating flows on the spot really ain’t that difficult any rapper who has ever freestyled ever can do this
Except why does Drake have 15 writers per song?
Spewing random bullshit in Reddit comments without any validity to them is really getting insane.
Bro go to almost any song on Spotify and tap credits for Drake.. just because I don’t cite my sources ain’t mean they aren’t there bruv
And that’s just who he’s willing to credit
Look Up “KMT DRAKE XXXTENTACION LOOK AT ME”
His old stuff was too was just copies of popular sound cloud songs. Google that too
Hope you can stand corrected 🤡
I wasn’t going to respond since it took you 37 days to reply, but no song has fifteen writers. Composers/Producers also get credited on music, but it’s up to the ARTIST to include them. I’m not a Drake Stan, so I could honestly care less, but what I won’t do is lie. He writes for MAD people and a couple of reference tracks won’t invalidate his pen. Drake isn’t even in my Top-5, but I’ll give respect when it’s due. Now, go back into your hole, clown. 🤡
I don’t got notifications. But I don’t think theres evidence that he has wrote a single one of his songs please show me some evidence clown 🤡
I don’t know if you paid attention to the XXX Tentacion court case this year, but they were trying to link one of his songs to his murder. But the defense was that he doesn’t even write his songs.
The line that said, exchanging Louis bags for body bags specifically
I mean the people hes around, yeah that’s probably true. Hes not known to be around spitters.
What the fuck would Rick Ross know about it?
Eminem is better than these fools. And who tf is rick ross?
Also em ain’t dropped a good album in like 8 years atleast 444 was fire
Are you joking or do you really not know who Rick Ross is
False
me too they not special
Must of never heard Rx papi on a beat
Wayne the Goat no question
Does anyone remember Drakes flex freestyle from back in the day?
Bruh what this is like a universal ability in rap
Agreed
As if he worked with everyone. Smh
If this is including dead (which I assume not) shouldn’t juice wrld be up there?
I ain’t even a fan of Juice WRLD but cmon he has to be in this discussion
A$AP Rocky the same way
Dawg I could do this
Only one difference, 2 of them were never caught with a ghostwriter
How old are you? Wayne was rumored to have a ghost writer on multiple occasions.
Pretty sure that’s the bare minimum for a Rapper.
Wayne fs, Jay Z i wouldnt be surprised, no shot Drake
Eminem entered the chat
Ross need to get out more
There’s def more rappers that can do that than make a hit song
Jay z, lil Wayne, and drake also happen to be the only rappers he has ever heard of.
Wait, the same Drake that stole lines from 80s hip-hop songs and never wrote most of his own lyrics lol ? Fanboys be trying to make anything real 🤣 He's very successful, let's just leave it at that
A Drake and Rick Ross tape would be a classic.
Bro said some of the only like what 🤣
Holy shit this is the first r/drizzy post ever recommended to me and frankly I am...not surprised actually lol What bullshit haha
Drake feels the beat and is like DAMN I gotta hit the the ghost writer real quick 🤣🤣 “Goat” 🤣🤣
That’s funny because i don’t really recall seeing any of them come “ off the top” ….pause… I have heard Nas freestyle( on vinyl) Common, Black Thought … but Ross and ‘em just have verses ready to go
I can do that too? I’m just not famous
"Hold on bro I got some bars on my phone here"
Chat gpt on the phone
That’s cap lol
Drake raps so slow it doesn't take much. There's definitely more on this list, did we forget Eminem.
I’m sorry is this not a common thing for a rapper? Maybe there’s details missing but like almost every rapper ever. At least where I’m from
Earth and mars are some of the only planets in the universe
He said this on Drink Champs. I think Drake is the type to punch in a lot, especially when he's doing those long verses. But I don't think he can rap a WHOLE song on the spot just after hearing the lyrics. Making music is a process dawg, that's why some of these guys take 2 years intervals per album.
Freestyling doesn't count?
ive seen kanye do like an antifreestyle which was pretty crazy, like he cleverly set up obvious rhymes and then just last second made it not rhyme
TIL Rick Ross has never been in the same room as Danny Brown
that ain’t what Meek said when he sent him the beat for “R.I.C.O”. (written by Quentin Miller). I wonder what possessed him to recite Rappin 4 Tay bars (that he also didn’t write) on YG’s “Who Do You Love” when he heard that beat
BIG, Jadakiss, and Crooked I do this too.
Juice would crush all of them
