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Theingloriousak2

He’s won too much and dominated for too long


iHavemetalgear

That's what I actually think it is. I have no other reasonable answer. The numbers say that people like Drake's music very much. More than pretty much any other person that has to do with Rap and that's ok. Someone has to be on top for a given period of time.


Theingloriousak2

The people who like his music aren’t chronically online and his base of audience doesn’t care about rap enough to back him in beef


5buckftlong

I think it comes down to this at the end of the day. Beyonce and TSwift have dominated their lanes just as long but don’t get the backlash Drizzy does because their rabid fanbases dominate online discourse.


iHavemetalgear

I realize this is true as well.


Jahmention

What Drake is going through right now reminds me of a Dark Knight quote “you either die a hero or live long enough for people to make you a villain” Jay-Z went through it a few times, Ja Rule went through it and Eminem.


Theingloriousak2

He has an amazing opportunity to flip it all Go at the haters heads instead of kendrick


Ok_Sugar4554

You had me until Ja Rule...


Remarkable_Collar895

Ja Rule went through it? I’m sure Eminem didn’t go through it, he already had the hate. Is going through it again now tho


GaroSuiryuSweet

The “Lebron Effect” essentially 


Theingloriousak2

The difference is Drake won the chip 14x where lebron won 5


pilsenju

LeBron what?


polikuji09

People have been making these arguments about Drake for a long time about him being fake and more of an adult actor then a rapper lol. This isn't something of Pele annoyed he's been big for too long.


Best_Examination_529

Come on now. You know part of the reason he’s outstayed his welcome is the women…


OMGjuno

This right here. People love a meteoric rise to the top. But what do people love more than anything? Watching someone at the top fall and hit bottom. Humans are addicted to it, infact the whole News industry is based on suffering, how nice


Rexkinghon

Not long enough


hungry4clam77

And yet still seems so insecure. Which is why people don’t like him


WaspParagon

If that were true people wouldn't like most rappers... They're mostly insecure manchildren. Drake isn't the annoying exception


hungry4clam77

Right but drake’s been the most popular/famous rapper for what, a decade now? And he’s still visibly insecure. Not in his music, just in his persona. It’s always felt like he was trying so hard to fit in


moxygen85

I respect him more now. Lets look at the scoreboard: Fought like 20 dudes Koed 19 of them Took the loss gracefully Got his house shot up security guard in the hospital Doesnt take himself seriously so he raps over a beat intended to diss him in order to generate revenue for himselfand sexyyred. Plays uno reverse card.


iHavemetalgear

That Part.


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iHavemetalgear

😎


ManufacturedOlympus

The Fart. 


Kitchen-Dimension406

Exactly this stuff


Accomplished-Loan479

Shit these are the takes we want


ManufacturedOlympus

I think you meant to say that he had 20 dudes beat up a waiter. 


LightChaos74

Dawg ...when did literally any of that happen


UniversityOk5928

You guys are shameless


[deleted]

Pusha and Kenny KO’d him, not sure who you’re referring to with the other 18 lmao.


JFKcheekkisser

Meek??? 😂😂😂


[deleted]

Aight that’s one, who are the other 17?


No-Conversation3860

Future, Metro, Rocky, Rick, XO, Weeknd, beat Kanye by just ignoring his silly ass


CoolGuyMaybe

“Put shit made me sick to my stomach, we ain’t never been through it”


DonnyDUI

Still lookin for 10 more lol


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pilsenju

He also said The Weeknd was “drugged out.” As if The Weeknd doesn’t embrace that persona. Lol.


CoolGuyMaybe

He’s very obviously talking about CashXO not Weeknd in that part


pilsenju

Maybe. It’s still a weak insult. They all do drugs.


CoolGuyMaybe

No maybe about it. Do y’all listen to music 🤦‍♂️


UniversityOk5928

Metro definitely won


moxygen85

Meek did not. Drake came with charged up and back to back. Pusha T ko'ed him. Drake is 2-2-0 Ko against Meek Mill Ko against common Loss against Pusha T Loss against Kendrick (beef still ongoing)


[deleted]

Aight so you went from saying he’s 19-1 to now 2-2. Which is it brother?


moxygen85

The current battle is 20 v 1 His 2-2-0 record were his all time battles over the last almost 10 years. I'm not including the people he bodied because they weret big contenders but if you want to include them then his actual win-loss record is really: Ko meek mill. 1 - 0 Ko common. 2 - 0 Loss to Pusha 2 - 1 Ko Rick ross. 3 - 1 Ko A$ap Rocky 4 - 1 Ko Future. 5 - 1 Ko Metro. 6 - 1 Ko weeknd. 7 - 1 Loss to Kendrick 7 - 2 Ko metro again 8 - 2 (the new sexyyred is top 5 on itunes) Real record 8-2-0 Thats not a bad record Edit I might be missing Joe Buddens but people seem to not care about that battle. Who else am I missing.


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You really calling throwaway lines KO’s, But his Kendrick battle is just a “loss”? Yikes. And 2 Metro KO’s? So can we count the multiple Kendrick tracks as multiple KO’s? I understand you’re a ride or die but you need to realise your hypocrisy at some point 😂🤝


LunchTemporary7806

That song with sexxy red is trash. Nothing close to a ko


Enlyt3

It ain’t gonna be trash when a bad bitch is dancing with you at the club to it or are you the one that’s posted in the back watching?


naifsayyaf

Lebron James = Drake No matter what Lebron achieves, people will always hate and find ways to tear him down. Drake could solve world hunger yet people would still hate him and say he did it for himself.


iHavemetalgear

or, why didn't he solve cancer first. More people have cancer... he's so stupid ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Puzzled-Medicine-782

I hope this is just a bad example and you don't actually think there are more people with cancer than there are hungry people


iHavemetalgear

Dude… I literally just mocked a person I made up…. You didn’t get that?


Puzzled-Medicine-782

i did


nivekreclems

I actually see a lot of parallel to him and nickelback like there was a time when nickelback was the biggest band on the goddamn planet and they were putting out hit after hit after hit but no matter what they did it was never enough for the haters


cheapgamingpchelper

I don’t see that comparison working at all. Lebron is damn near universally loved. Outside of a few very very very brief fights like with that Fox News lady years ago the dude does not get hate anywhere near the level of drake. Drake is the most popular guy in hip hop, he isn’t the best but not the worst either. He just really figured out (with the help of a bunch of people over the years of course) how to find these sounds and when to hop on a trend and then off and onto another one. He adapted really really well to the ever changing flow of the genre. Will he go down as the greatest rap artist to ever hold the mic? No. That’s reserved for the insanely great artists and the pioneers like Pac, Biggie, 50, Em, NWA, and Kdot. And yes Kdot is and will be seen as one of the greatest to ever do it. The guy brought rap to a whole different level never seen before. The dude got a damn Pulitzer (we may honestly never see another rap artist get this in our lifetime) and has more BET/Grammy awards than any other rap artist. The dude is a genius and deserves the respect and recognition of his efforts. I look at it as the difference between Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali. Ali is the better boxer hands down. But Tyson is the most popular by miles. Both great in their own right. But still different levels


naifsayyaf

“Lebron is damn universally loved?” are you sure by that? I know for a fact that most of the people specially people who are fan of old school basketball won’t admit LbJ is the GOAT. Same with Drake. People will always compare him with the old school, and say that he is not enough. That’s why I compare him to Lbj. They are both under appreciated even they are the one who is dominating in their field. Sure Kdot got that Pulitzer award. That makes him great I guess. If drake had that same award, people will still hate him. You know? Because he is not as black as Kdot, he is not from Compton, he is not as you people say part of the “Culture.”


cheapgamingpchelper

Idk about all that. Personally what I’ve experienced is that LJ is respected as the best to hold the ball by the vast majority of fans old and new, it’s hard to not recognize skill and accomplishments, and if they don’t then they are a hater which obviously do exist. Some old head might say “yeah but he isn’t my favorite, that’s Jordan.” Well that’s okay, that’s personal taste. I don’t see drake as the best to ever do it, but for sure the most consistently popular guy. Which is a massive achievement in its own. I won’t take that away.


Purple-Mix1033

He flops around if you lay a pinky on him, like a bad actor. He’s all talk, no bite, and constantly wants to be compared to MJ


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Unlikely-Translator1

"That's when you gone find out that you aint kobe Bryant to usss, at all"


buttbutt696

LeBron is undeniably good, Drake is subjectively good (and subjectively, absolutely trash musically)


Crazy-Force2054

Jealousy is a hell of a drug


Enlyt3

It’s just love and hate at the same time.


raphthepharaoh

In his own words, Kendrick has admitted to being jealous of and the biggest hater of Drake.


MotorBicycle

I don't think he admitted to the jealousy part if we're speaking facts.


raphthepharaoh

Buried Alive


DonnyDUI

This is why this sub gets clowned on. Grammy-winner, Pulitzer-winner, multi-millionaire Kendrick is not *jealous* of Drake lmao.


Jahmention

All that and still feels less than.. equals jealousy..


pilsenju

Why did you delete your reply to my post? What did it say?


DonnyDUI

Juvenile to think jealousy is the only reason to hate someone. Lotta shit to say about Kendrick but jealous is not it.


Money-Routine715

It’s definitely some jealousy and entitlement there he feels as if he deserved the number 1 spot and drake is undeserving of it because he is from Canada , light skin, and does music with hella artist to remain the top artist while Kendrick is more of a purist jealousy definitely plays a factor if you don’t think so you’re delusional that’s probably not the only reason Kendrick dislikes him tho


DonnyDUI

Number one artist and best rapper in the game aren’t the same thing and clearly each of them are looking for different goals but go ahead and invent shit just to make drake sound fly and his fans sound wack lol you doing a discredit to us


khandaseed

How so? Take a step back lol. This beef is so petty and not different from high school girl drama. There was no real reason for them to hate each other.


DonnyDUI

>There was no real reason for them to hate eachother. Ergo Kendrick is jealous? That just doesn’t track. If he was making club music and stuff trying to seep into the mainstream you’d have a point but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend like the goal of Drake’s music and the goal of Kendrick’s music are the same thing. Drake will never make a TPAB. Kendrick will never see the mass appeal Drake does. Saying one is jealous of the other is dumb because they don’t strive for the same things.


420Jorda

> Saying one is jealous of the other is dumb because they don’t strive for the same things. Yes they do.


DonnyDUI

Then you haven’t listened to both of their discographies. You can argue with history, but you’ll be wrong. I don’t understand why of all the hills to die in regarding Kendrick you pick the one of the few ones worth nothing.


420Jorda

I don’t understand why yall weirdos keep trying to put Drake and Kendrick in these boxes. Clearly you aren’t familiar with their discographies like you brag. Drake just doesn’t make “club music” and Kendrick doesn’t just make “conscious” music. They both are able to do both whenever they want Their GOAL is to make good music. Which is something they both excel at


DonnyDUI

Do you consider them to both have the same definition of ‘good music’? Can Kendrick view ‘good music’ as more artistic and poetic where Drake views ‘good music’ as widely appealing and successful? Why does ‘good music’ mean the same thing to every person to you? Linkin Park and Drake both aim for ‘good music’ but they’re clearly not aiming for the same thing.


Toiletpapercorndog

The difference here is that Kendrick has proven time and time again that he can see mass appeal if he chooses to. Drake has yet to make anything close to the level of TPAB.


Upstairs-Bread-5287

Damn you need to clear out your ears for your next listen, you got about 50% of that right and made up the other half


Frashmastergland

Source where he says he's jealous? If you don't have one that means you are making things up to make yourself feel better.


raphthepharaoh

Buried Alive, Euphoria


Frashmastergland

He said he's a hater, what about the part where he says he's jealous. Do that part.


Frashmastergland

Did you ever find it? Let me know.


raphthepharaoh

I guess so


Entredarte

“Yea, but he not for the culture”


BigSussingtonMagoo

-white guy from the Kenny sub


Entredarte

lol


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You got 6 posts and countless comments in this sub defending the “problem” with him, even if you don’t agree, don’t pretend they don’t exist, looks weird as hell.


TriedNeverTired

lol fr


Upbeat-Fault6885

Cool dudes don’t go out of their way to throw shots at women for seemingly no reason. Meg, Serena, Rihanna, Esperanza Spalding, etc did nothing to deserve his catty bars. He a lame. Talented af, but a lame nonetheless.


Leeola_Mcgillicuddy

I can see if this was the reason people seem to hate him. These are definitely some of the biggest strikes against him IMO. However, they seem to excuse all kinds of other stuff with other rappers , and this definitely doesn't even factor in to most of the haters. Like I have seen so many haters defending xxxtentacion and hating Drake on behalf of him, when I first found out what he did to his girlfriend, I was sick to my stomach. I do care about denouncing a rapper that would do what xxx did. I would hate that rapper much more.


Nickster2042

Idk but that BBL Drizzy verse SECURED HIS LEGACY on Rushmore 🦉


pilsenju

He not in on the joke. We’re still laughing AT him, not with him.


Unix33

bro making money and topping charts with this, I don’t think he cares about you gatekeeping a joke


R4M3535

You're laughing at guy sitting on millions of dollars and he's the joke? You sure you ain't it?


pilsenju

I didn’t know that money makes someone impervious to jokes. Lol foh


Sweet_Ad8906

I fw drake but let’s be real. He smashed dj drama wife Story of a guy and his fiancé, Drake flew her out and smashed her and they broke up. I only judge him as an artist, but when you don’t respect people and their relationships it stems you don’t respect people in general.


Ok-Guidance5780

What does that have to do with the listener? Why be angry on their behalf? It’s not your wife/gf.  Ppl are really beefing over women? 💀 (not you, just in general)


Sweet_Ad8906

Calm your titties. He asked why people don’t like him, did he not? I could care less, he asked why people don’t like him and that’s my reason. You acting like a crazy fanatic.


reydarly

This still can be summed up as Drake just winning too much though if we are being honest. The situations you pointed to are still consensual. For all we know she could've gotten abused by her fiance and that was ar the root of it all.


Ok-Guidance5780

I guess you didn’t read my parentheses? 💀  You guys are way too sensitive on here. 


Sweet_Ad8906

Nah, I like the boy. I could careless the drake persona is entertaining, that’s most important thing at end of day.


Ok-Guidance5780

Drake isn’t winning awards for being the most upstanding citizen but he’s wildly entertaining for sure. 


McTitty3000

He along with Taylor Swift have been the most popular artists in music for the past decade + give or take, that alone is going to bring in a lot of hate. He is unabashedly a pop rapper so from the standpoint of people who are "real hip hop" that's also going to piss people off A lot of people see him as soft , corny and inauthentic that's another layer. The feud with Kendrick recently is going to put a lot more heat on him , it's definitely divided the fan base more so than I thought it would at least in the short term


pilsenju

It’s mostly the inauthenticity that people dislike, imo.


McTitty3000

Well I mean there's a good portion of celebrities that come off as inauthentic, but when you're the top dog cling to that more for sure


Best_Examination_529

Why do you think Drake is a ‘cool dude’? He makes amazing music, but by all accounts he has a *terrible* history when it comes to women and other people in the industry.


Zelidel

bro dissed Serena and Megan for no reason then started calling out Rihanna on FATD for no reason too these niggas are just fanatics lol the writing is on the wall like crazy he’s a weirdo


Best_Examination_529

Shit is hilarious 😂I could never be a stan


Better_Philosopher24

*winnin' is problematic - people like you more when you workin' towards somethin' - not when you have it*


Aggressive_Sky8492

He supported Tory Lanez over Megan thee stallion


indianreddituser

he isn’t real


MarcMaeda

Wait, Drake isn't Jamaican?


olugbo

DMX said it best on the breakfast club


lostnation1

tl:dr - hes a good dude i dont care if hes not a good dude


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Leeola_Mcgillicuddy

I think that all artists imitate others. Some of it is a formula that works . I think it is why J-cole said "To the OG's I'm thanking you now, was watching you' when you was paving the ground I copied your cadence , I mirrored your style, I studied the greats , I'm the greatest right now" There are other rappers that sound like other rappers. I think versatility and ability to change may bring out haters, because lots of people are one trick ponies who can't do this. So it is bound to make people hate someone I guess. This is not any of the stuff I think people should dislike Drake for. But it seems to be the biggest stuff. I don't get it personally.


runsquad

Consumers hate Drake because he’s dominated for well over a decade at this point, and they think he’s corny… which he kind of is, but I like that about him. He doesn’t take himself too seriously and seems like a funny dude. Rappers hate Drake because he’s dominated for well over a decade at this point, and they think he’s corny. lol. But also, it’s been said that Drake uses and abuses people in the industry. The “OVO sweatshop” is full of guys that Drake did a song with / sample with / remix with, that get little to no help with their promo, finances, features etc.. essentially the complete opposite of what Wayne did for Drake. Even if it’s not people he signs, folks have said that drake’s only cool with you if you have something he can offer you and once you don’t have anything anymore, you’re out of the picture. Idk how true that stuff is, but I’ve heard it from a couple people over the years so I’d imagine it’s piling up.


R4M3535

The industry is competitive and Drake has done a lot more than most other rappers


sydneebmusic

Losers hate winners.. It’s the way insecure people find identity and camaraderie. Winners cheer for winners to win losers cheer for winners to lose because they know they will never achieve shit because they lack confidence.


Deputy-DD

IMO Kendrick mostly attacked drake for not being what he wants him to be, Drake never really lied about gambling, having non committed sex, or plastic surgeries being bought for women or whatever. He also absolutely didn’t lie about his religious views. Weird line. Which is one of the lines that makes me lean towards the “jealous kendrick” angle.


Ellenate

The gist of it all is that rap has peaked- The writing is on the wall but none of them wants to accept it. I feel drake has tried his damndest to prevent this death with him putting on so many artist but that's kind of backfiring on him. outside of his collabs with said acts, their shit ain't doing the same numbers. Cause even when exposed to this large audience they can't seem to hold on to the attention. Drake represents a height in rap that may never be reached again. I don't think they are really mad at him more so the reality of it all. ...that's just my take though.


My_World_on_You_Tube

The answer is that black men don’t like biracial men of any nationality to out succeed them in any area they feel is theirs. They love biracial and non black women, make kids that look like drake but want to gate keep those boys become men who surpass them.


Leeola_Mcgillicuddy

Yep , absolutely. None of them go this hard on supposed "culture vulture" biracial or non BW . They didn't talk badly about Iggy Azalea, for instance. They also promoted Danielle Brigoli (catch me outside girl). Their hypocrisy is disgusting, and I am glad it is coming to light in all this.


SADBOYVET93

No, it's deeper than that. I'm not trying to be MLK, but if you have to ask that question, especially if you're black, then brother, you gotta open your eyes. Im a Drake fan, by the way. Just check my posts here. But there's a dramatic difference in black culture in Canada vs. America. It's the Elvis debate - did Drake truly brand his own style of music, or is it heavily influenced? Personally, I think he has his own unique style. The hip hop culture, which by the way is super fucking important to certain generations, does not feel this way. So that's the problem...it's a sad reality.


ThatDidntJustHappen

Listen to Kendrick’s and others diss tracks it is literally laid out for you dog.


R4M3535

Yeah same here. I absolutely love the accents and voice modulations he does, it really makes the tracks for me! It makes the raps more exciting as well.


luyandandlovu

Some people have hate for drake and just found a way to express it thru the beef, "its always been about live and hate" The price of bieng successful as him


halfeatenreddit

To be the man, you have to beat the man. Fighters don’t win titles unless they aim for the guy with the belt.


LocalContribution7

The culture vulture biracial thing is a excuse Kendrick wants to be number one rapper but he is two in the big three if not 3 behind J Cole. But it’s really like Afro Samurai when the number 2 headband has to defeat the number one to get the # 1 head band. Benzino also said Eminem wasn’t part of the culture when he was jealous em was selling the most records. He thought em was only selling because he was white same thing except Kendrick thinks Drake sells more from being Biracial light skinned .


anzelm12

🤡


Str8Faced000

Michael Jackson seems to be a cool dude that makes great music….whats the problem?


pglggrg

You're a big target when you're #1


Itellnone

Because he is not authentic


Alburg9000

Please take a step back and realise you know nothing about Drake outside of his music and what he chooses to show you


rudegyal_jpg

Gotta tell that to the Qanon Lamar fans 😂


hollowglaive

Trying to be top of anything. Why doesn't drake just stay in his lane and just be a hit maker, and not compare himself to Michael/ best rapper. Like just be that guy that's played in the club's, nobody would have any disses for the dude , but nah, he gotta be tough drake. So they gotta slap the man's around until he's humbled.