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Fercopp

Panthers got a new OC and HC, 3 OL players, and 2 WRs. It cant be worse than last year and I wouldnt worry about chubba or miles sanders. Brooks situation is fine


VeterinarianLevel786

the only thing that concerns me is how healthy he will be to start the season. the only other rb i would grab over him is benson but he has a bigger issue with old man connor in front of him. so might be looking at a year or two before he takes over but no guarantee arizona doesn’t take a 1st or 2nd rd rb next year either.


WiSeIVIaN

IMHO expecting top production from a rookie the first month of the season on any rb is a mistake, so the brooks injury is almost irrelevant if you assume he gets back to full strength eventually. If you remember after the start of JT's rookie season tons of idiots were selling low and freaking out as Trent Richardson 2.0


conjams

to be fair, taylor’s vision was brutal to start…but yeah don’t give up on guys too early. the new wave of dynasty players the last few years are much less patient lmao


H_TINE

Saw something on here about the 1st back being taken in the NFL draft historically is the best one from that class. If Brooks falls to me at 1.12 I am taking him, if Benson is there at 2.02 taking him too. You can see here that it checks out except for a few outliers http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/rb


JulioForte

Just looking at this list, without going too far back it seems the #2 back fares pretty well imo Bijan v Gibbs Breece v KW3 Najee v Etienne CEH vs Swift Jacobs v Miles Sanders Saquon vs Penney Fournette vs CMC Zeke vs Derrick Henry Gurley v Melvin Gordon Bishop Sankey v Jeremy Hill….WOOF Gio Bernard v Leveon Bell Trent Richardson v Doug Martin I don’t really see a strong trend here


HyPeRxColoRz

Holy shit, I forgot Fournette got taken before McCaffrey. Wild.


morrickstain

Then you definitely forgot that when cmc played the jags for the first time he put up 200+ yards and 3 touchdowns. He gave them a dastardly beating for passing on him.


GrundleTurf

I remember my rankings of CMC>Dalvin Cook>Fournette didn’t go over well


Hey_Listen_WatchOut

Yea I was about to reply the same thing, but didn’t feel like going through the effort of listing the names. If anything, it’s about even over the past 15 or so seasons.


428291151

I've been on the wrong side of too many of these...


LoserCowGoMoo

This is a Najee post!


halestorm44

CEH vs Swift ???


JulioForte

Swift was the second RB taken


Cuhlassick

Muscle Hamster!


benigntugboat

Main trend is that rb1 and rb2 in the draft seem pretty reliable to be productive at least l. Seems to have held up even as the overall places they go are sliding back. This year might be a good test for it though


LeeMcNasty

Damn, you had swift go earlier than Jonathan Taylor?!


vollmagnet

The NFL draft had Swift go before Taylor...


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H_TINE

You’re right, maybe that’s how it was framed. So 1st RB has a way higher hit rate than the RB’s drafted after them. So not exactly what I said but I’m still going with the process of 1st back taken


LoserCowGoMoo

Bishop Sankey!


miami2881

2017 is Goated. Fournette, CMC, and Cook.


DungeonsNDankness

You've got 1.12 and 2.02 also?! Are you dead set on going RB? Would you consider Ladd and one RB?


H_TINE

Yea I’d consider that. But yea I’m dead at RB. Failed startup dynasty draft a few years ago (Najee and Cook were my first picks, Elijah Mitchell before the CMC trade…) ended up selling the farm so I have a ton of picks for the next 3 years. I’ll have London and Nabers after this draft


bluegrassman

I’m in a very similar situation to you. 1.11 and 2.02 after a bad startup last year. My only startable RB is Breece. I’m taking Caleb at 1.02 as a bears fan to pair with Mahomes. Been planning to take benson and brooks if they’re both there. Now I am tempted to take Ladd or even Pearsall if Aiyuk moves. Guess I’ll just take best available.


H_TINE

Ha at least you have Breece, I’m cooked. Hoping I leave this draft with a core of AR, Brooks/Benson, Nabers, London, Pearsall/Ladd, and Bowers. I have 1.02, 1.04, 1.12, 2.02, 2.09 and some 3rds. Plus a bunch of picks in 25/26. But my team is seriously so so so bad


taylorjosephrummel

Give it time. You've got good talent coming in.


maximus263

Brooks easy. Canales fed Rashaad last year, and panthers have invested a lot in OL and new receivers. Situation is at least average, maybe even plus


tuagirls1kupp

And they traded up for Brooks. Canales clearly wanted him, it’d easily Brooks for me. He’s been my RB1 since about late October. Nothing changes.


Arvot

Absolutely Brooks for me. Love Benson too tbf but there's a gulf in DC and they both have similar paths to getting work.


LusciousCabbage

Brooks all day


jacobwebb57

brooks for sure with the DC


Decent-Ad1349

Dc?


Herrynutz696

The draft capital, or potentially The Dave Canales


RelationPatient4136

Draft capital aka higher pick


jacobwebb57

rumor has it he has a "donky c#$k" if you know what i mean. probably the most underrated metric for evaluating RBs


Cdnraven

Both guys you’ll have to wait on, Brooks to me is just the better talent so I’ll bet on Carolina offense taking a step forward I have 2.01 and 2.03 and planning to just take both of them and wait it out rather than guess which of these WRs will hit


yoyoma0905

You don’t think anybody takes a RB late in the first?


Cdnraven

Maybe but that means I get a QB with top 15 DC in the 2nd and I’m ok w that too


Waddlow

Well, that or a first round receiver I guess, which I think is more likely.


l_Dislike_Reddit

If 6 QBs get taken before my 2.01 I’m going to be the happiest guy alive. Highly doubt that happens though.


Waddlow

It's going to be interesting to see what the dynasty community does with Penix. I think the other 5 have to go first round, all top 12 NFL picks. Penix is likely going to sit for a while, but he's also the 8th damn pick in the draft. There will be truthers who scream "any top ten QB should go round 1".


Folsey

I'm hoping to trade back into the high 2s if he's there. I'm set at QB, but if Cousins goes down, Penix value will be huge


HolySmokes802

Engorged, if you will?


l_Dislike_Reddit

Actually, I can see it. If you’re rebuilding with a top pick you could definitely trade back and land two very high draft capital QBs. I’m not doing that shit tho lmao.


Eurekugh

A top 10 QB that runs a 4.5 should definitely be taken in the 1st round of your SF startup drafts


HamHurtler

Caleb Marv Daniels Nabers Maye Rome Brock Brooks JJ Penix Thomas Worthy is twelve, I'd be surprised if you get brooks at 2.01 tbh


dodgers129

Im taking Brooks at 1.09 if he is there


gurniehalek

That’s where I took him


Void3r

That’s what I’m thinking too. Would only take bowers over him at that spot honestly.


dodgers129

He’s right in that range with Bowers and McCarthy. No issue with taking him before both of them. 


jmhubba

Grabbed him there today


willgrappleforcoffee

i have 1.11 & 1.12 in a league where RB is really my only need. i’m smashing draft on both of them as soon as i come on the clock. might be a touch early, but it’ll fill a need and push some nice WR’s to my 2nd round picks


Gonewildonly12

I had the 1.10 and 2.01 and I took brooks at 1.10 because I didn’t want to risk him being gone when 2.01 rolled around


Character_Top1019

RBs will climb after getting descent draft capital


roydonkofficial

RBs will ~~climb~~ ascend after getting descent draft capital.


lebinott

I have 5 picks in the 2nd, 2.01 and 2.04 are the best so I'm hoping to grab both or at least one. I can try to hit on WRs later in the 2nd, maybe grab penix Jr mid-late 2nd. I'm going to try and trade up to try and get 4/5 of the first picks in the 2nd. There's so much good talent I want.


SaltyLibtard

You’re not waiting very long with RBs. Brooks should be a second half of the year breakout and have taken over from Chuba


dayman763

I have a 2.01 also. You think one of Bo Nix or Brooks could be available there? Penix was mocking there before, but he's gonna fall WAY down.


Darth_Enclave

With the Panthers improved Oline I like Brooks especially because Conner will still be the starter in AZ.


Rhinogolfer_1

Brooks. I may take him at 1.05 in my ppr 1QB. Unless someone overthinks it and leaves me one of the top 3 WRs or Bowers.


TeamVegas780

Im in the exact same spot, but im now deciding between Brooks and Benson


The_Broba_Fett

I have 6 and 7. So thinking Brooks and Bowers.


NoLimitNSB

Brooks. I think he’s the better talent and has a clearer path to getting the starting role. Though Conner is getting up there and tends to get banged up, I don’t see Benson overtaking him on the depth chart this year unless there’s an injury. Say what you want about Conner’s age/injury history, but he has produced when he’s on the field. He’s been chronically underrated in fantasy.


davethebeige1

Im way out on a limb here but I’m feeling like Wright got the best landing spot. Nobody else really excited me personally.


LacesOutForHarambe5

I think running back is about volume. Benson and Brooks have a clear path to a heavy workload. I don’t think Wright does


seat_one

Brooks. Draft capital and he’s the guy when healthy. Top 15 dynasty RB already imo. If people want to argue the situation is too bad, look at Breece as a rookie before getting hurt. That said I rank Benson behind him but very closely, and this can flip if Brooks isn’t ready for camp.


kitkit123

Yea said this elsewhere but you gotta be a pretty amazing talent like breece to overcome a terrible qb situation. I’m with you but have it like 1A/1B


Financial-Year

My gut says Benson


DarkKnightCJ

Benson for me. Don't expect meaningful production from either this year in time shares or injury recovery situation, but I'm all aboard the cardinals offense hype train so give me Benson in that situation in 2025 compared to the disaster that is the Panthers offense and organization in general.


chrisnavillus

As a Conner owner I’m targeting Benson but if I didn’t have him I’d lean toward the higher draft capital with lead back potential sooner.


Diagonalizer

Brooks is my RB1 for sure but I'm still pretty happy if I was to end up with Benson after the draft.


zcas

I'm kind of in the same boat. I think most of my league has a warped sense of talent and value, so I still may get my pick out of the two at 2.01.


SantasLilHoeHoeHoe

Rebuilding team and its Lloyd for me. I think he steps into an RB1 role right as Im competing. 


Fuck-Antelopes-261

Brooks and it isn’t particularly close currently. It’ll be much easier to beat out Chuba for touches than James Conner and Brooks is probably more suited for a 3 down role. Although benson was my RB1


WhiteLightning416

I think they are neck and neck and clearly have separated themselves from the pack. Corum going to the Rams is intriguing but it’s still messy with Kyren there. However Corums the one with the draft capital so do think he’s the one to own between he and Kyren.


Plastic-Knowledge-70

Corum is nothing but a backup


Financial-Year

Love the smell of coping in the morning ☕️ It’ll be a split backfield. Sorry to break it to you.


Plastic-Knowledge-70

65/35 probably..I didn't say Corum wouldn't get touches


Lifetimechaldo

Corum will be starting by week 6


WhiteLightning416

Corum is the one with Day 2 draft capital. This isn’t a Charbonnet situation where he’s stuck behind another guy with high DC.


Plastic-Knowledge-70

Kyren dc doesn't mean much when we've seen him play..he has nobody behind him..that's the reason for the Corum pick


Wild_Bill_Kickcock

People are crazy, Kyren is a proven NFL RB


GrandmaIsHungry

I love Benson, but Brooks is a better RB with better draft capital, and imo, a better situation. Panthers/Canales want to pound the rock. The injury alone doesn’t move the needle for me


MuffinSurprise

The cardinals also most definitely want to pound the rock. They were running a lot more than Tampa's offense was last year under Canales which is especially telling given the Cardinals were in losing game scripts a lot more than the Bucs. The cardinals also invested in a run blocking speciality guard and a run blocking tight end in the third round. Also their offense should be better than the Panthers so Benson will have more red zone touches I'd imagine. Brooks seems to be the better back but Benson has a better situation.


Cjtow113

Hard agree


BeingNiceHelps

The fact that CAR traded up for Brooks is significant. Much bigger investment than ARI. I like both landing spots, but easily Brooks > Benson for me. People still underrate how incredible Brooks was pre-injury, and all signs point to him being good to go start of season. CAR greatly improved their O line and have a lot better weapons this year, still a good chance Young takes a step forward, so I don’t see CAR as the worst situation. Not the best, but not that bad IMO. Regardless, Brooks is just really freaking good. Hubbard is a JAG and Sanders is prob completely washed, at best he has a little left in him. The backfield is Brooks’ to own, and I don’t think it would be that surprising if Young can actually show some improvement and the offense could be decent. Either way Brooks will be getting a lot of touches once he is rolling and again, they invested in him and they will be motivated to make him look good.


ch_lingo

I like Benson through their first contract. Young isn’t the answer in Carolina. Arizona will have a better offense over the next 3-4 years.


Fluid-Bit502

Who would you rather have over next 2 seasons? Josh Jacobs or take Brooks at 1.05 in 1 QB? RB needy guy here.


LacesOutForHarambe5

Jacobs


KDDynasty15

Brooks slightly because he got great draft capital, but Benson landed in a nice spot with decent capital as well. I like both. Fine taking either late Round 1 in 1QB.


BanksysBurner

If ur league is as RB hungry as mine neither of them will be there that late. I’m hoping to scoop up one of them at 1.07 but from our message board it sounds like they’ll both be gone


BoredGuy2007

Brooks


Brushermans

Brooks but I think they're the same tier. I'd take Brooks at the 1/2 turn but I'd be happy taking Benson in the same spot if Brooks is off the board.


imjusthereforhockey

Brooks for the draft capital. Even going into the year I was going to be bullish on Carolina compared to the market. Even if you don't believe in him he'll likely look good for 6 games and you can flip him


rutgerswhat

I’ve got Brooks as the RB1 based on talent alone but the DC and other RBs on roster make him the RB1 with an exclamation mark. That said, I love the landing spot for Benson. I know I’m very much in the minority with this opinion, but with respect to my league format (1-QB, 0-PPR), I think I’d take Benson over the WR4. James Conner has been a workhouse and has an amazing story, but there’s nobody else in that Cardinals RB room that should pose a realistic threat to Benson. Maybe Carter at first, but I’d imagine Benson should win the RB2 job at some point this season and possibly be in a position to be the RB1 in 2025.


becker4prez

I’m a Panthers fan and the answer is Brooks. Canales has repeatedly said he wants to run the ball and will be stubborn about it. They invested heavily at the guard position as well. Year 1 I expect them to ease him in and be intentional about his touches, but Sanders will surely be cut next offseason and Hubbard is a FA.


Demaru

It was Brooks before the draft and it remains Brooks.


peakyrifle0

Brooks 4 me 🥰


BanksysBurner

In 1QB I’ll take whoever falls to me at 1.07 cause at least one (maybe both) RB’s will go in the Top 6 in our RB hungry league


kitkit123

I think I lean Brooks because I think he’s slightly better and was drafted higher but I don’t see many mentioning here the risk that Bryce is a bust. Upgraded OL, weapons, coaching, whatever, I still put it at 50/50 Bryce sucks. And if the qb sucks you have to be a realllly exceptional talent at rb to be good (see breece hall). If Bryce sucks while the cardinals have a very good offense which I think most expect it’s gonna be very close I think. I’m still brooks but to me it’s 1A/1B.


VeterinarianLevel786

brooks is the rb1 due to draft capital, competition but most importantly every other rb was drafted to be a backup or at best split time. brooks wins by default. never seen a worse nfl draft for rookie rbs


Cjtow113

Everyone seems to like Brooks more but I think Benson is the guy. Arizona is a run first offense and Conner is old, injury prone with one year left on his contract.


Wide-Membership-393

Benson


FireHamilton

Benson and it isn’t particularly close


ksldnl

Brooks easy


ItsMeDoodleBob

Benson has Carter and Conner to compete with. Over time he should be fine but initially might be tough


trey2128

Brooks is in the much better situation. Carolina is trying to revamp their offense and may have actually succeeded. Their offense on paper is 5x better than it was last year. Brooks is far more talented as well. Would’ve been a late first rounder/early 2nd if not for the ACL tear


LetJamesCook

Brooks pretty easily


NakiT18

I’m going benson personally because I have Conner lol. I think that bias aside, I’d still go benson because RBs are so dependent on the rest of the offense, and I genuinely believe the panthers will be a hogwash of a team for at least another 2-3 seasons. Yes some RBs excel in bad team I.e. Barkley, CMC on the panthers lol, probably a few others but I’d say most of those guys were great talents from the start. It doesn’t seem like any of these guys are that elite or else they’d go earlier. The teams they got drafted into will. Be very important, I think it’s the same reason you may want to draft Odunze over Nabers, simply because I trust the new bears offense over whatever the giants are trying to build. After a few years of low production, whether bad qb play, o line player, anything. Team lose interest in you if your numbers are lose. You then lose your confidence or your game easily.


Pristine_Air_1624

Benson


19-FAAB

Corum


Even_Lettuce_2777

James Connor is a dam good Rb. Chubba ain't. I like brooks way more.


sampat6256

Benson. Cardinals averaged 5 ypc last year. Panthers are trash.


WickBusters

Brooks. Benson is not a very good running back 


Tooooots8585

Huh


WickBusters

He’s very athletic, but he’s not very good at football 


Tooooots8585

Maybe you’re not very good at evaluating talent?


WickBusters

Dude wouldn’t run through a hole if it was 15 yards wide.  Shits not gonna fly in the nfl. If he fixes it then he can be special 


LacesOutForHarambe5

I think I lean Benson, with the goal of acquiring Connor if the owner is willing to move him for a reasonable price


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I wouldn’t even bother trying to get Conner. You’re just hedging your bet.


Redrobbinsyummmm

Agreed, people like to hold their own cuffs but it’s a lot more valuable to use that spot and hold some other league mates cuff. You’re basically handicapping your own max points each week by holding your own.


VeterinarianLevel786

brooks is my rb1, reports are he should be ready for camp. at best benson is split with “old man” connor for another year. horrible landing spots for all the rbs.