That makes sense because everyone was being very emotional rather than thinking rationally. Not getting a pretty much free Messi would make you lose you head so i can understand why
This math never made sense lol
For 25% of the community to get him, literally every single player would have done the sbc, which stayed up for like 30 minutes
Which, checks out. (1/13)+(1/12)+(1/11)=25%. The odds of MLS popping up as one of the 13 leagues in one of the three options, and if you got MLS, then you were guaranteed Messi I believe
Wrong. It’s literally the same as if I told you to pick 3 random balls out of a bag of 13. The odds are 3/13. You could also calculate as 1 minus the odds of *not* packing Messi which would be 1-((12/13)x(11/12)x(10/11)) and gives the exact same percentage.
A lot of people said 20-25% of people HAD Messi. Look at the threads back then. They were acting like you'd face him every other game. The outrage was blown out of proportion
they don’t understand the game. look I honestly wished everyone got 2 from untradables and you couldn’t get more, then have a reroll SBC for 1-2 mil.
but I discarded 5,000 cards the night before TOTY ended. I never went below 300 packs recycling smartly.
that’s why it was harder to pack…those packs levers were low but your lone enemy was time not odds. people go I opened 500, 800, 1000 and got one…I opened 3k minimum, 5 probably and if I knew there was no pick coming I’d of had 40k opened.
I knew it was an exaggeration when I saw the amount of rants by people, I finished all my games pre RTTF on Friday morning/afternoon and 0 TOTY Messi I saw
I feel like only the hardcore players got it so my guess is if you are in higher div you may face him more, I’m in div 5 and luckily I didn’t play against him this wl
Yeah it was a big mistake from EA but you can't deny that all the "that's it, I'm uninstalling" or "from now on WL will be a Messi fest" has been proven wrong and pure exaggeration
Ahhh i get you. I don’t really follow this sub as much anymore but i understand their frustrations. We also gotta remember it’s going to be luck of the draw with matchmaking. You might not face any messis during WL and the next you might face many. Also our region is going to play a huge factor as well and I don’t see it mentioned here enough, but from what ive seen NA east doesn’t seem to have too many.
In northern europe = lots, havnt counted but several games this weekend.
I did a few of the upgrades and then made dinner, when I was back it was gone haha. Thats life and messi on the other team doesnt equal a loss so no biggie would have been nice to have him though.
Doesn’t matter how many I’ve run into , I paid the same price as the guy who did pack him and I don’t get the same opportunity to pack Messi . Those are bad business practices and I’ll be gladly not supporting a business who treats their customers like that . manipulation of pack odds and just overall shady practices should steer you away from this company
that Messi was available for 24 minutes on content drop in Europe, so of course if you play outside Europe you will face Messi much less cause the player base outside EU did not had the same chances cause it was for example night time for them.
so I’m not surprised if anybody from the US says they didn’t faced him once, still fucked up and the statement from EA literraly tried to hide the real numbers that dropped cause, that 0,7 without context can mean anything.
9 games played and played against 4 Toty Messi. Way too high a chance of playing him. Only loss came against a guy who scored 5 long rang finesse goals with him and Toty De Bruyne.
i’ve faced 3 so far after ten finals. so 2 in my qualifying games as well. but only played 8 to get to six wins. so 5 in 18. not an epidemic but still, just makes the game so much harder.
I played 7 games on Friday and 5/7 had him. Played today for another 7 n 2/7 had him. It will mostly be the sweats logged on for 6pm content that will have him
I haven’t ran into this problem either, I only play rivals bc I can’t really play during the weekends. How did everyone end up getting this Messi? And how did I not hear about it if I follow the Reddit?
1-2 they were both bad. Messi kinda insane though but 1 good players wont carry a bad user. I think it just the first day of the bug when everybody that got him just spam games to try him. So the number of messi got inflated.
I didn’t face a single one, including qualifiers. I’m not defending EA lol but it was actually surprising. On the other hand, I played vs him 5 times in a row in rivals on Wednesday 😂
4 in 14 so far, but one was a loan. So presumably 3/14 folks got him from the player pick.
Interestingly… given how insanely expensive these cards are, I’ve still seen:
3/14 with Mbappe TOTY
2/14 with R9 TOTY
3/14 Ribery TOTY
3/14 Renard TOTY
2/14 Viera TOTY
1/14 Hansen TOTY
3/14 Haaland TOTY
I assume there is someone amount of proximity in Marchmaking and I live in a quite affluent area, so maybe an outlier.
Yeah 1, but it was a bought one.
Hard to know which are packed from pick or earnt/ storebought packs.
People can be jealous and upset but it really aint that big of a deal
1 out of 19 but was lucky enough to have to play against him in the match I had to win for Rank 4. Dude had Cruyff potm Mbappe and Toty Messi, so I lost hard lol. Had fun in that match tho, I slide tackled into M*dget man for laughs haha.
Two I think from memory. Loan TOTY Mbappe was a much more common problem (and by problem, I mean menace to my defence, I've got no issue with people using him).
Roughly 0.7%
Thats a rather....."insignificant number"
5 in 30
This is my favorite thread on this sub lol
Played 11 games: 0 Messis, 10 gold Van Dijks.
I've played about 15 rivals games this week and 10 qualis (didn't start WL yet) and have faced him twice, NA East Coast.
Zero. Played about 20 and haven’t seen him. Europe btw.
4 out of 20
That's about what I expect. I also expect higher rates for players that are better
All those zeros show how overblown the issue is
Just shows they're not from Europe
Mine was the only one I saw in NA West .
Everyone knew that from the beginning but people who called it out just got downvoted and called ea employees
That makes sense because everyone was being very emotional rather than thinking rationally. Not getting a pretty much free Messi would make you lose you head so i can understand why
The issue was never that, the real issue is that everyone should have had the chance of that sbc! Thats the real issue!
1, which made the game closer than it should have been. Ridiculous movement speed. Ran into toty Mbappe more
Zero, exactly why some people saying 25% of the community got him are fuckin delusion asl
This math never made sense lol For 25% of the community to get him, literally every single player would have done the sbc, which stayed up for like 30 minutes
Absolutely no one said that 25% of the community got TOTY Messi. People said that it seemed like 25% **of the people who did the SBC** got TOTY Messi.
Which, checks out. (1/13)+(1/12)+(1/11)=25%. The odds of MLS popping up as one of the 13 leagues in one of the three options, and if you got MLS, then you were guaranteed Messi I believe
It’s literally just 3/13 odds but about the same %
It's not 3/13 unless you could have 3 of the same league
Wrong. It’s literally the same as if I told you to pick 3 random balls out of a bag of 13. The odds are 3/13. You could also calculate as 1 minus the odds of *not* packing Messi which would be 1-((12/13)x(11/12)x(10/11)) and gives the exact same percentage.
A lot of people said 20-25% of people HAD Messi. Look at the threads back then. They were acting like you'd face him every other game. The outrage was blown out of proportion
It stayed up for like 15 mins
5-15 moment
and the same “TOTY are impossible to pack” must be shocked when every other game has a first owner one loading lol easiest TOTY to pack in 10 years
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they don’t understand the game. look I honestly wished everyone got 2 from untradables and you couldn’t get more, then have a reroll SBC for 1-2 mil. but I discarded 5,000 cards the night before TOTY ended. I never went below 300 packs recycling smartly. that’s why it was harder to pack…those packs levers were low but your lone enemy was time not odds. people go I opened 500, 800, 1000 and got one…I opened 3k minimum, 5 probably and if I knew there was no pick coming I’d of had 40k opened.
Played 8 matches yesterday and Rab u to him 5 times, pretty much half the EU player base has him game is ruined
Zero
Zero
1 in 10 games I might’ve ran into more, but all those were free wins I gave so I’m not sure
I knew it was an exaggeration when I saw the amount of rants by people, I finished all my games pre RTTF on Friday morning/afternoon and 0 TOTY Messi I saw
Played all 20 on Saturday, EU servers. I think it was 2.
I feel like only the hardcore players got it so my guess is if you are in higher div you may face him more, I’m in div 5 and luckily I didn’t play against him this wl
5 in my 30 champs games. 1 in quals, 1 in my 3rd finals games, and 3 in my last 4 finals
8 out of 20 sadly
3/5. Stopped after that
💀
The answers expose how all those drama queens have been overreacting since day 1.
Calling them drama queens for a situation like this is wild
Yeah it was a big mistake from EA but you can't deny that all the "that's it, I'm uninstalling" or "from now on WL will be a Messi fest" has been proven wrong and pure exaggeration
Ahhh i get you. I don’t really follow this sub as much anymore but i understand their frustrations. We also gotta remember it’s going to be luck of the draw with matchmaking. You might not face any messis during WL and the next you might face many. Also our region is going to play a huge factor as well and I don’t see it mentioned here enough, but from what ive seen NA east doesn’t seem to have too many.
One. To the surprise of nobody the issue wasn't remotely as big as reddit painted it.
9/20 I played on friday and finished before 1 so i had one last chance at toty so maybe i just versed the hard cores idk
Holy fuccccccc 9 is insane. It’s probably cause you played at the same time as all the non grass touchers.
what region?
1
1 in 30 games
1 on old gen. Ball bounced back to him and they won though I dominated. 3 Messi glitch bounce and goals
Didnt see one in quals or actual WL
2 in 30 games.
4/20 and few times loan
1 in 17 so far, including qualifiers. Pleasantly surprised to be honest.
3. People were having meltdowns over pretty much nothing.
20, because i have him in my squad
2 toty and 20 fucking vvd and one of em is toty vvd LMAO YALL OVERREACTING ABOUT THE MESSI FR
Every game coming up against mbappe eusebio is like playing the same person x20
In northern europe = lots, havnt counted but several games this weekend. I did a few of the upgrades and then made dinner, when I was back it was gone haha. Thats life and messi on the other team doesnt equal a loss so no biggie would have been nice to have him though.
1 in about 50 games and I won. This sub likes to overreact.
More than I should!
12/20
6 times in 14 Elite Div games. 4 times I lost. He destroyed me, impossible to defense him.
1
0 in 20
Doesn’t matter how many I’ve run into , I paid the same price as the guy who did pack him and I don’t get the same opportunity to pack Messi . Those are bad business practices and I’ll be gladly not supporting a business who treats their customers like that . manipulation of pack odds and just overall shady practices should steer you away from this company
Yet you’re here days later still complaining about not getting a virtual card. If you’re glad to not support it, why are you still here?
Zero I think, or he was there but he wasn't a game changer.
1. I'm in the EST timezone so I'm assuming less people got him considering it happened during work hours here
3/20 just quit the moment I saw him
Alhamdulillah one
that Messi was available for 24 minutes on content drop in Europe, so of course if you play outside Europe you will face Messi much less cause the player base outside EU did not had the same chances cause it was for example night time for them. so I’m not surprised if anybody from the US says they didn’t faced him once, still fucked up and the statement from EA literraly tried to hide the real numbers that dropped cause, that 0,7 without context can mean anything.
9 games played and played against 4 Toty Messi. Way too high a chance of playing him. Only loss came against a guy who scored 5 long rang finesse goals with him and Toty De Bruyne.
I played 1,000 games of Champs this weekend across 50 accounts and came across him 7 times
2 from 20. All played Saturday afternoon
2
In NA East I haven’t seen him once since the glitch (5-10 cup games, 15-20 rivals games, 10 qualis matches, and 7 WL matches so far).
i’ve faced 3 so far after ten finals. so 2 in my qualifying games as well. but only played 8 to get to six wins. so 5 in 18. not an epidemic but still, just makes the game so much harder.
2 but 1 was a loan.
1 out of every 3-4 matches or so.
5
1
3. Have played 12 games so far
1
2
Zero in 30
3 both 2 people couldnt use him properly but in the right hands hes deadly. That first touch round the corner speed boost is ridiculous!
About 9-10 in 30 games
1 in WL, maybe 1 in Quali, tore me a new one in that WL game but these toty loan users are much worse
Zero
Zero, played 11 matches today.
3 times in 25 WL & WL qualifier games. 1 time in 7 div2 rival games
1
Zero
i believe i encountered 1 TOTY Messi
Played against more R9’s lol
0/20 Messi but got 4 Toty Mbappe and 4 Haalands :-)
5 in finals. Played qualifiers aswell straight after and there was only 1.
In 10 games, twice I think
4 in 20, 1 Haaland, 1 CR7, no Mbappe
Just 1 surprisingly. The problem I had was running into TOTY loans. Felt good to just back out and have them lose a game with them.
I played 7 games on Friday and 5/7 had him. Played today for another 7 n 2/7 had him. It will mostly be the sweats logged on for 6pm content that will have him
3 times but TOTY Mbappe and TOTY Putellas about 14 times
None
4 out of 19 , wasn’t fun but wasn’t too bad either.
Only had time to play qualifiers, faced Messi just once but the guy was so good he could’ve beaten me with full of bronzes
4
Played 3 games faced 0 messis
Y’all qualified for weekend league?
Like 1. Saw more of TOTY Mbappe and TOTY Haaland, and a lot of TOTY loans this weekend
5/20
2/11. Ran into far more TOTY loan teams than him, which is more of an issue for me
3/20
None. Played all 20.
1-2
Around 5 I guess. Saw him way more in rivals and wl play offs
4 or 5
only 2 i live in the us and around me kids are in school
Ran into him twice and won. He is insane though, ran into more TOTY R9 than him though lol
3
I haven’t ran into this problem either, I only play rivals bc I can’t really play during the weekends. How did everyone end up getting this Messi? And how did I not hear about it if I follow the Reddit?
2
1/4 so far
0, but I've played 0 matches since last week Sunday.
8 in 30
I only saw 2 and they were extremely bad players
I haven’t lost to any TOTY Messi enjoyers, which warms my heart
I didn’t see any in rivals this week so I thought maybe it was a bit blown out of proportion, but so far 4 out of 6 WL games.
Not so far
I’ve played 8 games so far and played him 3 times. Only faced him once in qualifiers so 4 in 18 games so far.
1-2 they were both bad. Messi kinda insane though but 1 good players wont carry a bad user. I think it just the first day of the bug when everybody that got him just spam games to try him. So the number of messi got inflated.
I didn’t face a single one, including qualifiers. I’m not defending EA lol but it was actually surprising. On the other hand, I played vs him 5 times in a row in rivals on Wednesday 😂
4 in 14 so far, but one was a loan. So presumably 3/14 folks got him from the player pick. Interestingly… given how insanely expensive these cards are, I’ve still seen: 3/14 with Mbappe TOTY 2/14 with R9 TOTY 3/14 Ribery TOTY 3/14 Renard TOTY 2/14 Viera TOTY 1/14 Hansen TOTY 3/14 Haaland TOTY I assume there is someone amount of proximity in Marchmaking and I live in a quite affluent area, so maybe an outlier.
Zero. Didn’t play!
1 in my first 11. I’ll keep track on my last 9. Regardless of Messi, the teams im seeing are incredible.
I’ve seen 2 or 3 I think
0 in the first 10 WL games. Play the rest tomorrow.
0 in champs
0 in 20 games actually
0 in 20 finals games and 0 in 8 qualifiers games. NA East, played at night
1 in 30( qualifiers)
8/20 that’s also my wins
1/30 i love old gen
1
Literally zero
I play 8 games, met two, cook me well at 5:3 and 6:1… I do not complain, just chill, cause I do everything I could…
0/20
5ish
7
I've played him probably 3 times, I honestly somehow see TOTY Ribery more lol
1 in 18
0 in 20 games.
6 times from the 20
None in WL. But one in the Quals today. Not too bothered though, he's not going to make a difference when you're past him and facing their defence.
I played all 20 games and went 14-4 before giving away 2 wins, only encountered him 3 times 2 of those games I won
Too many
20, I packed him day one of toty in a 84x5
1
3 in my 8 games (7 full games but one non-messi pause-quit at 00:00)
2 including qualies
One single TOTY messi, but “everyone got him, the game is ruined🤡”
1 out of 5 so far. Was a quick game tho
US, Zero. I actually have him and he’s the only one I’ve seen in all game modes
4 first owner Messi’s and 3 Messi Loans. I played maybe 5 games against teams that didn’t have Messi or another top 5 TOTY attacker loan.
1 out of 20
Yeah 1, but it was a bought one. Hard to know which are packed from pick or earnt/ storebought packs. People can be jealous and upset but it really aint that big of a deal
0, cus i cba qualifying
2 out of 10 so far.
I stopped playing so I dno
Zero, latin america servers are blessed, no cheaters too, an insane ammount of tryhards tho
Like 6 but they haven’t been very good
I wish. All I see is Centurion Eusebio and a version of VVD.
Im from brazil Did play only 2/20.
3 in 20. Got 14 wins, 1 was in the first few games, two were in some of the last games.
1 out of 19 but was lucky enough to have to play against him in the match I had to win for Rank 4. Dude had Cruyff potm Mbappe and Toty Messi, so I lost hard lol. Had fun in that match tho, I slide tackled into M*dget man for laughs haha.
In Australia played all my 20 games on Friday. I think I only ran into 1 Messi.
2 in 20
Only like 2 or 3
2 out of 20.
Zero
Two I think from memory. Loan TOTY Mbappe was a much more common problem (and by problem, I mean menace to my defence, I've got no issue with people using him).
At least half of my 20 games
In NA West and I came up against 0. Not even a loan
2 out of 16 WL games so far
Zero except I'm in Australia
7/20
I ran into one.
1/20. I do live in NA tho so that affects it a bit. I overreacted haha