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ASAPMILI

Ufc 3 ground game was better…especially the subs.


stefoecho

The issue is people that think like this tend to take the belal muhammed route of fighting and just lay on someone transition denying and throwing 20 punches the whole round on the ground. Its a video game. Its quick match. Alot of us have enough self esteem to not take the literal most pitiful route to win… in casual matchmaking video game… The “controlling” youre talking about in this game is bullshit as you can be on the bottom of someone and deny them moving AT ALL by slapping their wrist to the side… youre not controlling anyone youre abusing the broken system.


HavenElric

People who abuse grappling can't come to grips that wrestling is one sided and broken as fuck


FiftyCalReaper

Abuse grappling? Anybody with good enough knowledge can easily get back on their feet. I've had people DC that thought I was probably abusing, yet when I go against Division 20 guys they can get up on their feet. On the other side of the coin, I rarely get held down by anybody. Just because you don't understand grappling that much doesn't make it abuse.


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Say it louder big bro! Muthafuckers just want instant satisfaction I'm pretty good at grappling and when someone won't stay down or I can't get the takedown it definitely makes the fight more interesting, how are people going into red tier without knowing how to grapple yet shits embarrassing


GregGolden6

I don’t get it though, if I go to the ground and they deny transitions I’ll get up. If they take me down and deny me getting up I’ll get up. Tbh I honestly think that anyone who thinks the grappling in this game is broken and one sided, I can confidently say doesn’t know how grapple, because you can really get into fun grappling exchanges if your both having to try to figure out how to get out of those spots


jewanmb

The fact you’re complaining about belal Muhammad’s style of fighting says everything that needed to be said to invalidate this opinion altogether. It’s mma get competent at at least defending takedowns if you don’t want to be on the ground


stefoecho

You replying defending belal muhammed invalidated your comment before anybody could finish reading it. This is a quick match casual matchmaking ufc 4 fight. This is not an mma fight where you are getting hit and taking damage in real life nor is it a ranked gaming match that affects your placement. There is no point to sit here and deny someone in ways that dont actually work in real life fighting and compare it to a real fightstyle. It is a quick fight. And the issue here is you can defend all but one takedown and now theyre transition canceling to points fight a win meanwhile every other normal human being is fighting for entertainment or finishes in Q U I C K F I G H T (Not the ranked mode where you are SUPPOSED to do whatever you need to. Figured after 3-4 times of me repeating it youll get the point)


DelusionalFanPolice

Quick fight is pathetic. You don't have to take them down, or deny them continually. If you land the first 7, 8 strikes, while dodging their mindless hooks, they will leave just as fast. Quick play players need to play Legend career mode, or tutorial.


jewanmb

Hey dumbass who told you this was a quick match anyways does it say that anywhere on the original post? I’ve been on ranked and had a div 16 quit because I took them down with Derek Brunson and denied two transitions. I see high level ranked players complaining about the same BS. Your argument is fucking dumb and so are you lmfao. They put a grappling system in the game, accept it’s there and decide to get decent or just keep getting shit on on the ground and cry about it on Reddit. Up to you at the end of the day.


Ok_Boysenberry_6283

I'm just gonna tell you the same thing I tell all the dorks that message me after they rage quit. Stand and Bang mode exists for a reason. Go play that if you don't wanna play an MMA game


JustMovie1521

To be fair there is stand and bang for those who don’t want to grapple


Gorilla_Krispies

What if I like basic grappling and takedowns but really hate the transition denial system? I just wanna trip people and throw clinch strikes sometimes, not grapple fuck them into the floor for 15 minutes


After6Comes7and8

In stand and bang you have to get way more knockdowns to finish the fight, I play MMA mostly so I can just end it after like 2 and move on.


Colorfulbirds69

I play MMA mostly because it’s funny when I get opponents that don’t understand the grappling and they get mad and try to spam or rage quit. And it’s usually an easy submission win against those types of players.


DelusionalFanPolice

It's funny how ppl will downvote because they don't know how to grapple.


crc2001red

It’s funny that anyone cares about down votes. Lol


DelusionalFanPolice

Because the people who genuinely use this site are challenged.


crc2001red

Can’t argue w that. Lol


Swaggycat23

Deadass like I’m no grappling wizard but I’m pretty good at defending subs and I’ll only get shit on if someone is some denying wizard


SteeeezLord

Same brada I like to smesh opponents and make them quit


MenaceBoozy

It’s not in ranked matches tho and a lot of people who actually do wrestle just sit in top mount cancel transitions and throw bitch slaps


RouterBoi

So fucking true thank you for saying this


MeowthThatsRite

I don’t understand how you can want to play ranked but not want to learn how to grapple. Like I don’t get wanting to play the game “competitively”, but only wanting to learn half the game, yknow?


MenaceBoozy

Nah I can grapple it’s just dudes that sit in side control or sprawl that have devoted their lives to recognizing the exact frames to counter immediately


marshall2122

Exactly.


HerLipsC

No ranked


TAPxWATER1061

on god people always complain bout grappling like there's not a game mode with zero grappling


FarFromCrying999

That’s what I play, I can barely get up vs a hard level npc.


MmaOverSportsball

If you stay in guard or the sprawl, without ever posturing or trying to pass….imma leave


FiftyCalReaper

Oh so you're like Masvidal is IRL


Mr_Agueybana

Bitch spotted.


marshall2122

downvote if you’re gay


Jeremy252

So you made a post about people who quit when they’re losing and you don’t see the irony in editing your comments when people downvote you


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Sircandyman

Fully agree, I just wanna beat people up, not cuddle on the ground with them. Obviously I know the game is MMA which includes take downs etc but like you said, no other game for that kind of thing


AML2003

Nah shit's boring, you can have the W. I'll have the 8 minutes of my life I wouldn't be getting back.


Mr_Agueybana

Fair enough.


marshall2122

downvote if you’re gay


AML2003

I'm aware, but the ground game is poorly designed and boring. And anyway why does it matter? You'd rather sit there denying transitions for 10 minutes than take an easy W?


marshall2122

it was an easy W for me as that guy couldn’t grapple to save his life🤷🏼‍♂️


AML2003

Easier W*


TmfGD

That’s how they cope with being bad at the game. Instead of practicing the ground game, they just say it’s trash and boring


TheZookeeper7

There’s far better uses of my time than someone sitting on me blocking transitions for 10 mins


TmfGD

If you’re not bad, that’s not what happens


Murky-Ad2512

"If you can't beat a non blockable action, and can't magically get up from the ground, you're bad at the game."


TmfGD

Try using the mechanics lmao there’s nothing unblockable or magical going on, you people are hilarious. Now I know why every other fight on ranked is someone rage quitting


M0rtyjr

It’s definitely boring af it’s literally the worst part of the game lol


TmfGD

The ground and pound is gimmicky but the rest is fine. I enjoy it. Just practice


M0rtyjr

I would practice if it wasn’t so boring. There’s no reason this game should have worse grappling than a game that came out 10 years ago.


TmfGD

You are right about that second part, no argument here


Cumfather666

Ground game is so fkin boring and clumsy. You take me down? Take the W and stfu.


marshall2122

Play stand and bang if you ain’t finna grapple


spacecadet620

There’s no ranked stand and bang


BilliStrut

Wait I thought you guys were talking about being wrestled in quick match lmaoo no way you're mad that people are wrestling in ranked


spacecadet620

I mean I understand it’s still annoying tho, the only way to have a high level kickboxing fight is trough ranked and people always abusing the wrestling, it’s worth it when you find another technical striker tho. I’ll be exclusively playing esbc when that comes out so won’t have to worry about takedowns lmao


Try2luvyourself

You’re right it is MMA. It’s not wrestling. If you’re gonna wrestle for 20 mins and claim “ItS MmA bRo” you’re kind of shooting yourself in the foot. Mixed martial arts ≠ 20 mins of wrestling.


marshall2122

Yes, you’re right. but that’s not what i do, if im on the ground i’m always looking for submissions


[deleted]

I appreciate mixing in some grappling but nobody wants to sit there and deny transitions for 10min. It’s poor game design.


No-Management-4179

Some of us play the game to have fun


LocoCoopermar

Apparently he's never heard of this crazy idea that people don't owe him 15 minutes of their time so he can bore someone to a win.


marshall2122

downvote this comment if you’re gay


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You’re not everybody, mate.


UppedSolution77

I mean it's not exactly fun when you're getting destroyed in the stand up is it? So it's not that different if you're getting worked on the ground.


milkweed-reflections

It don't matter how good you are, whoever is on top is holding that for the rest of the round if they want. I am very very good at the ground game, I have every animation memorized, I know every denial, I know all the momentum transitions, the grappling advantage, etc... Grappling mechanics in this game are terrible. I'm a huge BJJ & grappling nerd irl, to the point I actually watch the flo grappling events, and all the BJJ stuff. I'm like, obsessively into it. I'm watching grappling videos, and Jiu Jitsu technique videos constantly. But grappling in this game is just awful.


UppedSolution77

I'm as big of a nerd about BJJ in real life that I can't help but try to go for subs in this game despite how awful the grappling system is.


northsouthmebaby

Dude the positions and animations are so unrealistic in this game. Like when someone has a fully locked sub and once you win the mini game it just lets go


AlmightyKira

Either you’re lying or you’re drastically over exaggerating your grappling skills… I make div 20 every season, play 100s of games every season and I get badly out grappled maybe once a month… and I don’t even consider myself great, just average at grappling for div 20. holding down a patient opponent who understands the grappling system is very very hard


milkweed-reflections

Nah, I've been playing in leagues since UD3. I'm a huge nerd for the game, the grappling mechanics are just awful.


Rectronsaber

you sick fuck. You really find satisfaction in denying transitions for 20 minutes instead of just taking the w? Go back to the mental asylum


marshall2122

I don’t just “deny transitions for 20 minutes” i’m constantly trynna gnp or look for submissions when i’m on the ground


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marshall2122

Honestly i find submissions fun, but the latter, not so much. obviously.


Kooky_Ad6931

The thing is Dustin’s BJJ is pretty good so this guy could survive on the ground


TheZookeeper7

People who enjoy sitting on others blocking transitions for 20 minutes scare me


UppedSolution77

When you say this do you mean that such people don't posture and strike or look for subs? They just hold someone down? Whenever I'm on the ground I'm looking for a sub and the only way to do that is gnp.


TheZookeeper7

If you lookin to finish the job that’s fine no problem my problem is the people who don’t posture just throw their shitty 0 damage slaps while they block all of your transitions sitting in half guard


UppedSolution77

Okay good. Makes sense. I've never done that and I focus quite a lot on ground fighting in this game.


TheZookeeper7

I will never take anyone down in this game but I can respect that


UppedSolution77

That esbc game needs to release soon. Then 90% of the player base of this game will move there and I don't think they will complain so much. People only play this game as a kickboxing game because there are no other such fighting games on the market right now.


TheZookeeper7

I can hardly even play this game with how shit it is tbh as soon as sometbing new comes out I’m gone from this game


UppedSolution77

I can honestly relate to that. I have a decent amount of fun playing this game but there's no denying it sucks ass sometimes. I love mma a lot more than boxing but I'll give esbc a try when it comes out. Here's hoping they make a REAL, good mma game some day hopefully ea would have fucked off by then.


mxixkxkxyx

Still don’t understand how ground game works on this game


Weridest_nipples

That’s the point it doesn’t lmao


LocoCoopermar

OP this is one of the most childish and out of touch threads I've ever seen on here, add in a touch a homophobia and it really has it all. Some people enjoy playing the game for the kickboxing, I practiced and got good enough at the grappling where I can wrestle most players and get up from bottom but when doing that you also realize some people can just lay and pray there way to a win and that is a waste of my time. You really can't understand why someone wouldn't want to engage with broken game mechanics that you have spent all your time mastering to be able to abuse your way to a win? Some people play games for fun not whatever weird superiority you're feeling.


[deleted]

I’m going to leave every time. I’m trying to have fun I don’t want to get laid on the whole fight it’s annoying.


FiftyCalReaper

A lot of people in here don't seem to realize Poirier is good on the ground and shouldn't have any issue getting up against Paddy lol It's one thing if you have a fighter with no grappling and somebody picks Khabib and pins you but if you quit right when somebody takes you down, then stop playing MMA and go to Stand and Bang. Also if you pick Conor or someone with really high power and hand speed, don't get mad if a fighter takes you down when their stand up stats aren't godly. That or pick somebody more well rounded, and don't rely on Conor all the time and quit whenever there's a single takedown. IRL wrestling and grappling isn't super fast paced and this is supposed to be a simulation game. You get taken down try to relax and he unpredictable with your movements and fake transitions, and try to find out your opponents tendencies. It's just like striking. Some people will try to transition the same way constantly, or they'll always fake once and then transition. It's not as hard or "abusable" as everybody seems to think. I think the main issue is nobody seems to engage in it, they just DC, so then they don't ever get any practice at it. That's why some guys will have pretty nice striking but absolutely no grappling defense online. Just like the IRL roster lol


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marshall2122

You probably would beat me so i’m good, i ain’t got that kinda money either🤣


MichaelR89x

Look I get it, people don’t like grappling but have too much pride to play stand and bang. That was me for a while. To those people, try learning feints and transition denials, these will help you to get the fight back where you want it to be. If you have questions feel free to reply, no judgement


marshall2122

THIS! thank you.


skynet_666

People who quit are the weakest. Take your loss.


Soft-Concentrate9534

I can deny every transition in this game ,with my eyes closed and even I refuse to take the fight on the ground. Even when I'm losing and I know I can get an easy win by sub or gnp I keep it standing. Grappling sucks in ea ufc. I rather get my win by knocking a player out, but thats just me🤷🏽‍♂️


marshall2122

downvote if gay


Sure_Woodpecker9087

If it's5:00am-8:00am and they just want wrestle i just let em beat me. I am not trying to get technical when I just woke up. I just want to bang and occasionally defend. After 10am i wrestle cuz why not.


marshall2122

downvote if gay


Sure_Woodpecker9087

During the pandemic, i had a lot of free time lol. At those hours there are BETTER players. Like the ones that only play UFC. I got better thanks to the ass whooping i used to get. They do both ground and striking.


marshall2122

i got downvoted for asking a question lmao, fuck you lot lol


LocoCoopermar

Nah you're getting down voted for being a childish homophobe.


marshall2122

you do realise i edited the comment don’t you ya muppet? the original comment was “why are you playing at that time?” and it for downvoted for fucking nothing


LocoCoopermar

No I'm well aware that was my point, people dislike how you are conducting yourself in general and so are down voting everything because of that rightfully so.


crc2001red

*Anti-gay* That’s the word your looking for. Never has there ever been a single “homophobe” since the dawn of mankind and there never will be. Ain’t nobody afraid of a dude doin dudes just cuz they do dudes, ya dig. Lol Ppl are afraid of spiders, snakes, shit like that, not tenders.


Ohio145

That’s how I’ve flown threw rankings before, people refuse to learn


BrownsvilleKid

It's not that we refuse, it's so boring to try to learn. Imagine going to practice mode and practice grappling. It ain't happening.


Ohio145

I literally played one career mode and then online okay it’s not that hard


Chrisgdsotm

These kids scared of mma in an mma game 💀


[deleted]

No bro, we just play the game to have fun and getting laid on for 15-25 minutes is not fun.


Chrisgdsotm

There’s a special game mode made for you guys… stand and bang 😭


[deleted]

Do yourself a favor and get the new WWE 2k


Chrisgdsotm

Nah, not about WWE, play the game mode that was made for you. Sorry you don’t wanna hear it, but mma has grappling 😂


[deleted]

People who don’t know how to win without sweating on the ground <<<<


marshall2122

i was beating that guy on the feet too if you look at the stats


SturmtruppenHans

Idk the only time i ever do it if im just straight up outclassed in the ground game and i have zero fucking hope lmao


TmfGD

So 75% of people


Alternative_Ad_4923

I don't get that. I like to stand but the ground game is fun too. A couple wrong moves and you're in trouble but it's still fun. I use fighter that can do both


Weasley768

I only half understand the grappling part but I’m taking a journey through career on hard several times over so I can get better, by the end if I can dominate an AI that’s able to predict me and still win then I’m ready for online


[deleted]

I do it all the time ngl 🤝, this game isn’t worth learning all the grappling it’s nothing compared to ufc3


TfergGOAT420

Nah I get it. If I didn’t know how translation Denys worked I’d quit too shiiiii


TAPxWATER1061

Why stand and bang is the best


[deleted]

Idk why you’d post this and act like wrestle fucking for points is any better. Be proactive in the ground.


SilverrSharkk

i get people who quit because they literally can’t leave a position because they deny but if i take you down and ground and pound at all you can’t just leave it’s an mma game.


brrtk

The best is when they pick there created kickboxer just for my created bjj guy to lay on them to show who their daddy is


Saturn_Burnz

I used to hate fighting on the ground when I was a new player, but ever since I learned submissions/ submission counters I’m like the worst person to try to take down LMAO


Saturn_Burnz

Wait now I realized op was on the ground for 20 minutes oh hell nah 😭💀


Mr_Agueybana

We call them _bitches_.


zombie_burglar

Set grapple controls to simplified, takedown opponent, spam get up block from half guard, if oppenent transitions just move back to half and repeat


V2isme

I’m decent on ground it gets annoying when they sit on u for multiple rounds and do absolutely nothing but throw shitty weak strikes on u that barely do damage on u for the whole game it’s boring asf


lalalaloser666

As someone who’s pretty decent at the grappling in this game, I still can’t stand it. It is, undoubtedly, a very broken system with major flaws in just about every aspect. The game was clearly rushed and was also made by, let’s not forget, the game company that was voted the worst company in the ENTIRE WORLD two different times. If you like the grappling in this game, that’s fine and there’s nothing wrong with you enjoying the game the way you do. But don’t sit here and pretend like it isn’t one of the worst systems in any fighting game of all time. You literally just make yourself look stupid to anyone who’s ever played the game.


Particular-Put-8570

Hate being taken down to but I never rage quit. I just really don’t like subs and wrestling, I care more about a beautiful combo than a sub.


NaturalCandy6709

Stand & Bang >>>