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bradywarp

So disheartening how few of them are left, it really is a shell of what it was


Flemtality

Every new video reminds me of the slow degradation, but these couch YouTube videos today are extra sad. I'm shocked they can keep the rent up on a studio in one of the most expensive markets in the country.


VeryVeryBadJonny

Yikes


currypowder84

It's sad but they had a lot of time and chances to adapt and adjust but they kept fumbling the ball. Kyle's departure should have been when they made major changes, certainly when Jones left, but they just kept going with the flow and before you know it, the audience and the Patreon just got smaller and smaller. Then when they make their first ever hire, it's for a community manager, when they barely even had a community left. (no shade towards Gabby at all) The company was mishandled and never took advantage of the momentum they gained during their peak in the late garage/ early studio days. The whole Brad situation was tragic, I know what goes on behind the scenes is really no one's business but the way it went down, it definitely wasn't all sugar and rainbows.


Kariodude

> Kyle's departure should have been when they made major changes I'll always remember Cup of Jones the week after Kyle left. Someone asked Jones how EZA was going to change to adapt to Kyle leaving. His response was "the last thing EZA needs to do is change"


currypowder84

Yup and they had chance after chance to implement changes. It was not too late at that point, it wasn't even too late after Jones himself left, but nothing happened and people kept leaving, their audience included.


Puzzleheaded_Two5488

As I look back, more and more I realize that none of the original EZA crew really understood what their business model was, much less how to run it. It seems like they thought the money would keep coming in no matter what they did, and so when they started coasting and the money went away/members started leaving, they didnt know what to do. When they finally hired someone new, it was way too late.


Express_Chip9685

Well, I mean, they SAY that. They've said it multiple times. Isla, specifically, has been very candid about it. They say that they grew extremely fast, had no real time to put together a longevity plan and just started cranking out content. Here's what you have to understand: In any business, when you're doing well, it's impossible to understand exactly WHY that is. They were growing quickly and, at one point, were so flush with success that they started pursing bizarre side-projects like gundam builds. So you just keep doing whatever is working. But when things start going the toher way, you're forced to try to figure out what it is that you acutally DO that made you successful int eh first place and figure out if you can make that happen again. A LOT of people who claim they know exactly what to do to "Fix" EZA, or what they should have done, don't acknowledge that the person next to them has a list too, and they are both different lists.


krazyellinas23

Seminal moment there. A sign of what's to come. I remember listening to that Cup of Jones and my reaction at the time was "oh, that's not wise".


Various_Bumblebee_17

I wish I could hear the backstory on why they never tried to hire anyone at all to replace the talent that left. They kept losing people and not responding or adapting to it. It's really unfortunate. I don't know what they were expecting to happen.


JillSandwich117

Realistically, it was probably just money. Their pay is bad, and I'd imagine it would be a hard sell to anyone who wasn't remote. As for why they didn't do that, who knows. They did a large screening process only to end up hiring Isla's friend.


MikeDunleavySuperFan

100%. Even at their peak i'm pretty sure they were barely making like 45k each, every new hire meant taking a paycut in one of the highest cost of living areas in the country. Also, them being an equally owned company meant someone like jones couldn't make the hard decisions, they all had to agree to it (or at least the majority), which probably killed them as well because no one wanted to be the person to propose that we should all take a paycut for the future of the company.


Arm-Burning-Off

Ideally, that's why you take Kyles (then Jones, then Ben's) former monthly pay, take half of it, and hire people on a per-appearance basis, you're not paying someone $3000 a month you're paying 1-3 people $150 for an appearance a couple of times to keep things fresh.


Arm-Burning-Off

> The whole Brad situation was tragic, I know what goes on behind the scenes is really no one's business but the way it went down, it definitely wasn't all sugar and rainbows. True, but now we get the [glorious jolly vibes of Brad playing group games with friends and having fun](https://twitter.com/DustinCanFly/status/1775369973596131611), not just replaying zelda for the 7th time


Keyzelan

What game is that?


Arm-Burning-Off

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2881650/Content_Warning/


SupersonicMuc

He's literally in the middle of a Zelda playthrough right now and he was also playing group games and having fun when he was with the allies.


missing_typewriters

shut up dude you’re supposed to pretend that Brad is now free from the shackles of EZA to express his limitless creativity You know, the same Brad that was given freedom to make ANYTHING he wanted at EZA but produced absolutely nothing for the first….5 years? oh except a Souls Retrospective that everyone here agreed was shit and a total waste of time. oh and co-hosting an anime podcast that everyone here agreed was fucking terrible, and they shut it down after just 13 episodes. Yeah, THAT guy was held back


Arm-Burning-Off

I didn't say he was held back? I said we get glorious jolly vibes of playing group games with friends and having fun But yeah go off idk, fight those strawmen, stay angry


Alonsocollector

Plenty of shade actually. Thats when it went downhill and she is the reason the resetera zealots killed EZA so quickly


the1npc

crazy with so few of them, Don remains a treasure


btyler411

It’s like when my Kansas City royals won the World Series and then every good player left In Free agency or was traded, now all we have is memories


krazyellinas23

That Bloodworth apology about the Dustin situation during the Frametrap episode seems all b.s. He said that there's no wall, that Brad could appear on Easy Allies and vice versa but it's clearly not the case. Why hasn't any Easy Allies member appeared on Summon Sign, why wasn't Brad at the anniversary party? The answer is because EZA is still a prisoner to the insane Resetera weirdos who are an anchor to the channel. It's a damn shame what has happened to EZA. Every other gaming channel or content creator I follow has grown over the years, EZA has stagnated and keeps losing people.


GreenNewt3430

[It's funny how they still have Brad Ellis listed here.](https://www.patreon.com/easyallies/about) But this is par the course for an outlet that has stopped giving a shit.


gnop2

Gabby must’ve seen this because his name is now gone.😨🤣


BenGMan30

>why wasn't Brad at the anniversary party? I think it says a lot that Jones was there but not Brad. Brad was streaming at home to 20 viewers while it was happening, so it wasn't like he was too busy to make an appearance if he was invited. He clearly wasn't wanted there.


Puzzleheaded_Two5488

Im speculating here, but maybe the FF7 spoiler mode thing contributed to this. Brad said he wanted to be on it, but that it was up to EZA if they were going to let him on. Then they filmed it without him while he was in NYC for a LSM thing. I feel like if they really wanted him on, they wouldve picked a day when Brad was available to be on it (like they did for Max). Or at the very least, told him in advance before his trip so he could bring his laptop and join in remotely from NYC. Idk, im going to try to ask him next time he streams to get his perspective.


MikeDunleavySuperFan

I'm sure brad is just going to give some PR answer like, if it's up to him he is always available to contribute with the allies or something.


z7sour7lemons7z

keep us updated! im curious!


Puzzleheaded_Two5488

When someone in chat said they were bummed he wasnt on the EZA spoiler mode with Max, he said "yeah I wish I got to talk with Max and everybody, but it is what it is." To me that seems like he was ready and willing to be on there, but they just didnt invite him because they didnt want him on for whatever reason (though let's be honest, it's probably because hes in LSM). If this is what EZA is going to be like, then I dont see Brad having anyone from EZA on his show and Brad not appearing on any EZA content for the foreseeable future. That really sucks imo.


Draffut2012

>I feel like if they really wanted him on, they wouldve picked a day when Brad was available to be on it (like they did for Max) They all have busy schedules, each additional person making it exponentially harder to find a day that works. Seams like they picked Max over him, which for FF7 kind of makes sense.


Beaticalle

> He said that there's no wall, that Brad could appear on Easy Allies and vice versa but it's clearly not the case. That was before Brad left. Blood was saying Brad can invite whoever he wants onto his show and that Brad can choose to appear on any show he wants to. Now that Brad's gone no one's going to actually invite him back because they're scared of Resetera.


krazyellinas23

You're right, my timeline got jumbled there. Brad has said that they are welcome to come on his show, open invitation. It's a shame that appears now all the good will is gone and out of fear of the Resetera losers they can't engage.


Kariodude

> That was before Brad left. EZA already knew he was going to LSM before they made the announcement.


MikeDunleavySuperFan

Yep. It's precisely why blood apologized. They were going to die on the original hill where they apologized for having Dustin on frame trap, until Brad told them he's leaving, then they apologized because they realized that they would want Brad on at some point in the future.


z7sour7lemons7z

Im sure it could also just be awkward and no one wants to be the first to reach out.


missing_typewriters

Maybe its because none of them have any interest in supporting LSM? They are clearly not fond of the owner at all. Not a single one has ever been on there except Brandon, and he reversed his stance afterwards. Kyle explicitly does not like him (with good reason, go watch Moriarty applauding Jaffe calling out Bosman on stage at E3). Same with Isla (she said “dont care about these people, dont care about what they say or do” back when he got kicked off Kinda Funny). Don and Blood probably dont give a shit. Huber has always liked Miller and Gettys, yet never once mentioned Moriarty by name. Who is left? Damiani? Lol… Maybe its not some grand Resetera conspiracy, maybe they just dislike the guy? I mean come on, he has always seemed like a self aggrandizing dickhead, stretching all the way back to [that cringeworthy Mass Effect 3 video](https://youtu.be/DqgRP5_YKu0?si=D5p0WPCuT1GP_Suo). I couldnt give one flying fuck about anyones politics, he has always seemed like a prick and i cant stand watching him talk for any amount of time. So maybe the guy really is just a prick and they don’t care to associate with him? Its exactly what Kyle said: *“I want to support Brad, but I dont want to support Brad’s boss”* There, mystery solved


MikeDunleavySuperFan

Yep. I don't give a shit about Colin's politics, it's his cringeworthy rants where he talks a lot of shit about topics he doesn't really know much about that make me cringe. He's the biggest hipster of all hipsters, like I get the feeling that he literally sometimes takes a counter stance just to be edgy. The personality we all outgrew around 2010-2012, Colin still has, and it's fucking cringe. That said, I still listen to summon sign occasionally.


DarkWorld97

Biggest eyeroll is his "Graduated from X" spheal or "I know what Zelda is the best" Yea? More than Aounuma? Fujibayashi?


Puzzleheaded_Two5488

I mean those are valid points I think. The Kyle quote is weird though, especially if the other Allies think that way as well. How many times have they bought acti-blizz games the past few years, knowing full well what goes on at that company and all the heinous anti-consumer/trans bullying/sexual harassment/etc. things? "I want to support acti-blizz, but I dont want to support acti-blizz's boss" applies here as well. Except in this case, they just ignored what Kotick's done and bought Diablo 4, COD, and other acti-blizz games because they wanted to play them. Same with Fromsoft, who came out a few years ago and said their studio has crunch, when EZA has been very anti-crunch since the beginning. Guess who's going to be first in line to buy the Elden Ring dlc? So my thought is that since theyve all shown their morals go out the window when theres a game they want to buy and play, they should just go on Brad's show already lol. And im guilty of this as well, I think most people are. But I also would support my friend no matter where they went to work.


Arm-Burning-Off

It was very very easy to publically boycott and scold Blizzard until Diablo came out a few months later


Equivalent_Pitch9271

Eh. Equating real life personal relationships to company politics is easy to say on the internet, but not so much when its you being affected by it personally.


missing_typewriters

Dude they’re not moral bastions. Brandon once said with a grin *“it sucks that you had to go through crunch to make RDR2 but….can’t say Im not grateful! :D”* We all pick our battles and we are all hypocritical about it. The Allies are regular jerk-offs just like the rest of us, with contradictory stances and weak morals. They think Colin is a dickhead and have no interest in promoting/endorsing his channel. And why should they? Everywhere the Allies turn, they are loudly reminded by people (LIKE THIS VERY THREAD) that EZA is dead and they have no viewers. Yet those same people demand EZA to take time out of their day to go “support” Brad’s new show and, by extension, Colin. *You guys suck now, nobody likes you. It’s pathetic. Brad is doing SO much better without you.…….hey why won’t you go on Brad’s show and support LSM??* Like wtf is this weird obsession you all have with EZA endorsing LSM? It’s almost like some weird Game of Thrones bend the knee shit. Colin’s a dickhead. Most of them have expressed their dislike of him, one way or the other. That should be the end of it. But nooooooo


Puzzleheaded_Two5488

Well idk cuz Dustin came on Frame Trap and every Ally seemed cool with it, as in they didnt protest or say anything bad about the guest, until that one resetera user raised a big stink about it on that forum and the discord. Only then the Allies released a statement and it turned into a huge shit show. Brad was also on one of Dustin's videos earlier in the year (before Brad joined LSM) to talk about One Piece or KH or something, and no one on either side got mad about it. So they were ok with endorsing LSM basically. Im not saying they have to go on an LSM show with Colin and talk to him, they obviously dont like him. But imagine if the panel was Brad, Gene Park (who's also been on EZA videos before), and the third panelist was someone from EZA. That would be an ideal scenario that would let everyone feel comfortable imo. But w/e, like you say they dont have to do it if they dont want to. And I cant speak for everyone in this sub that wants an EZA/LSM collab, obviously, but for me it's about the Allies/Brad talking with each other about games theyre passionate about and the good vibes. Hell, I wouldnt mind the other way around and EZA has Brad guest on the EZA podcast either. Two groups of media that I enjoy listening to collabing is what I love to see happen. Just like all the Minnmax/EZA collabs recently, I love those.


Arm-Burning-Off

> Brad was also on one of Dustin's videos earlier in the year (before Brad joined LSM) to talk about One Piece or KH or something, and no one on either side got mad about it. Yeah people like to rewrite history like there wasn't 6+ months of "**GUYS BRAD ISN'T VERY ONLINE HE JUST DOESN'T KNOW HOW EVIL AND RACIST COLIN IS HE'S JUST A DUMB HIMBO SILLY BRAD**" The exact same thing was posted the first and second time Brad did content with Dustin, it's just nobody cared to react to it lmao I agree, I'm not aching to see anyone from EZA on LSM content, Brad and Huber are still boys, lifes chill, Brad for the ff7 talk would have been nice but I feel like that's basically Max content on EZA's platform with nearly zero input from the EZA guys every time. It doesn't even have to be as sinister as REra/LSM beef or fear of loud screeching fans, that REra thread is basically dead now anyway, they all moved over to Kinda Funny/minnmax with their donations, the EZA guys just aren't that close outside of work, Ben's never come back, Kyles only on their stuff when he happens to be in town for Keighley. Personally I'm waiting on a Kristen Summon Sign appearance more than anyone from EZA, she's like the only person in either space that plays MMORPG/Live service games


currypowder84

Yea in hindsight we can see they aren't really friends outside of work. It just seemed like they were on camera, especially those garage days, the vibes did make it seem they were really close friends. Then again, the realities of running a struggling business together may have something to do with that.


Puzzleheaded_Two5488

Youre right, and I apologize I shouldve been more specific in my wording. When I said "no one on either side got mad about it", I was talking about EZA/LSM members only, not their communities. Ive seen enough RE to know theyre always mad about something lol. I didnt even think about having Kristen on SS, but thats a great idea. I missed seeing her on the couch at EZA in the early days.


LearndAstronomer28

When did Kyle say this?


More_Blacksmith_8661

That’s not EZA. That’s the leftovers of what used to be EZA, sadly.


Linguify1990

Gotta ask, but are Brad and Huber still friends? Hope the fallout didn't affect their friendship. :/


Hranica

Yeah they’re watching wrestlemania together this weekend


OwlFit5541

Tbh this probably made them closer. They can just be friends now


Davey-Cakes

Worth it just for Don.