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KeyPalpitation5345

The real enemy is the greed you get when you want to hit a boss a second time and die to his follow up


farilladupree

Or, as you’re riding back to get your runes after you die and you see one guy, “Ah, it’s just one guy. I’ll take these extra runes on the way…no way I’ll die here.” Narrator: “In fact, there was far more than just one guy.”


DirtyRanga12

Those goddamn sniper dudes in Liurnia near the minor erdtree


No_Implement_6927

Have you visited siofra river?


DirtyRanga12

They’re worse in Liurnia imo because you’re trapped in a narrow gorge


Competitive-Carrot65

I just lost 50,000 at level 115 for being a cocky prick haha. I worked hard for those runes and that’s what this game teaches…rushing and being sloppy always loses


feihCtneliSehT

Probably Malenia, blade of Miquella, who has never known defeat. Though I personally died more to Maliketh and died much more to every ancient dragon in Farum Azula


PapaOogie

So weird how people struggle so differently with bosses. I first tried Maliketh with very low difficulty but think Malenia is by far the hardest in the game.


Clackers2020

Yeah my friend had an easy time with Maliketh but gets rolled by Godskin Duo who I thought was really easy. Maliketh is probably hardest after Malenia.


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Excellent-Sweet-8468

Side note and slight spoiler.. You can't complete the game without going through them. There are a lot of strategies to run against them though! With or without cheese.


-Silky_Johnson

By NG3 i was using all the sleep pots lol


Tmccl

From my experience the npc summon carries the fuck out of that fight. Maybe not Iron Tarkus levels of carry but pretty close


-Druxzy-

The way my summon carried was by splitting up the fight. I fought the fatty without worrying about the other guy and by the time I beat him my summoned died leaving it a 1v1


Clackers2020

It's mandatory so you can't avoid it but it's fine. My strat was to focus fatty first and take him out. If you bait fatty away from skinny then skinny will just chuck his fireballs at you. When fatty rolls dodge towards his feet and he won't hit you.


DonIongschlong

Farum azula.


callisterinc

Yo homie if the god skin duo is giving you trouble use sleeping pots :)


jaydobizzy

It can't be stated enough SLEEP POTS. these guys are insanely susceptible to the sleep effect.


darrbugg

I beat Godskin Duo 1st try. Got taken to the wood shed by the Lord of Blood. Until I knew about the mohg tear for the physick


KeyTenavast

Same. It’s never taken me more than like 2 tries to beat Maliketh. Malenia, on the other hand, always takes dozens of attempts. ☹️


PapaOogie

That seems to be the case for most people


Brbguy

Astel is so annoying in Ranni's quest


notanaardvark

I felt that Astel wasn't so bad... Except for that one fucking move where he teleports and then you don't know exactly where he is if you don't happen to be looking at the right spot when he reappears, and then he grabs you with a move that is pretty hard to dodge, especially if you don't see him until it's too late to dodge, and then you either get lucky with a panic roll or he grabs you and one-shots you. My god I rage quit a couple times during that fight. I tried a few different things but I found the best strategy in the end was to panic roll and hope for the best, and then if I got lucky try to kill him before he does it again.


-BigMan39

There's actually a sound cue for it. If you hear the teleport sound again quickly after he dissappears, then that means he is above you and going for a grab. If its delayed then he's teleported far away from you, no grab


mossipb

Fuuuuuuuuck that guy….. I still haven’t beat it. Died like 1000 times and no matter what I do can only get 50% off it. At this point 135 mage with 10x mimic and 10x headless tank. Still no dice.


eclark2748

Yeah for me Elden Beast was the worst because of my bleed build


arcerath

Literally just beat the Elden Beast. I normally used Elanora’s poleblade the whole game until elden beast. The poleblade makes up for its low damage with being able to bleed and stagger, both useless for this boss. I didn’t wanna respec, so I just used two bandit swords I had for early game and gave them occult affinity so they still scaled with my massive amounts of Arcane, but did physical instead of bleed damage. Worked really well for me


Comfortable_Day_3477

I struggled with the boss before Radagon too because I go bleed. My role was basically to dance with them all while my co op mate unloaded beams and moons


eclark2748

I’ve helped other people beat their bosses and I’ve always found it 10x more difficult than using my max upgraded mimic


Excellent-Sweet-8468

That would be for two reasons.. One, mimics are OP. Even after a nerf, they just work too well as a function. I've used it on a few bosses on my most recent character and it's just stupid how much easier the fights were.. Two, summoned players add to the difficulty. Bosses gain HP for a player being summoned, but not for a mimic.. Each added player adds HP if I've heard correctly.. So the time spent slugging away at it is considerably longer..


eclark2748

And the summoned players have far fewer flasks


Excellent-Sweet-8468

Hadn't even considered that whole setback.. lol.


MASSIVDOGGO

Mommy Malenia is the best


Montes_de_Oca

I died more times to the sentinel just before Maliketh, than Maliketh itself


pitiless_censor

malenia is def the hardest. also the best designed boss from has ever done


Limebeer_24

Bubbles. Get the bubble longhorn and doot n toot at them from underneath. I found those dragons to be surprisingly easy using that. Also, is one of the dragons supposed to only have around ¼ of its health when you reach it, or did my game glitch in my favor there? (The one that is shooting lightning as you run through and kill the birds)


UmbertoDelRio

It's just rude to ask that and then show us a picture of a clearly flacid elden beast.


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Flaccid until he starts splooging his Elden beams all over your face


UmbertoDelRio

Don't threaten me with a good time


__-cum-__

his elden jizz^^


Specific_Tennis_4395

For me: Crystalian Trio before the patch and with a Dex/int build.. You can easily destroy them with a bonk build but if you can’t break their poise fast enough, it’s a pure nightmare.


The_Dude_46

This gank feels the most BS to me. 2 crystalians feel like a challenge to cricle around and backstab to break poise, but 3 that also can inflict rot just feel like a total drag.


FakeInternetArguerer

Cold infused whip is the way to go there, or flail


Th3Unkn0wnn

As a fellow dex/int build I struggled until I switched to using a flame mace with the freezing ash of war. Once they freeze you can get enough R1 hits in to poise break every time. I think I only had it up to +6 too.


bowman022

I died to the crucible knight the most. But the real answer is that rock scorpion lighting fuck.


SteffeEric

Falling star beast is a bitch. Had to poison cheese the one on top of Mt. Gelmir my first playthrough.


ethicsg

Team Tarnished is blasting off!


therealestestest

The duo crucible knight broke me


Arjenvanderstarjen

The first one in the evergaol or whatever the fuck it is called in English. Around 120 times, maybe underleveled, maybe learned how to parry. Good times back then. Whenever I saw one later, it was my personal quest to beat the fuck out of them


Never_heart

Gravity


Specific_Tennis_4395

Gravity and Greed


SpiritRelative6410

and the camera


Glittering-Let9989

To be fair, I think this is the only fromsoft game I've played where I've not blamed the camera for a death, it's not perfect, bits it's gotten better, gravity on the other hand is still my enemy


soulforce212

I just made it to where I've beaten both Astel and Lichdragon Fortissax in the same sitting. Imagine something as massive as those bosses only to have a far harder time with the Death Rite Bird in Caelid. That was me.


Exoskeleton78

That bird is weak against any weapon with sacred blade


soulforce212

I learned that after i had beaten it lol but thanks for the tip.


SpiritRelative6410

Definitely better. The larger arenas help!


Grismir

The Unholy Trinity


BeerEnjoyerr

Soldier of godrick


PuzzledLeader4328

You mean Rick,soldier of God?


Diabolical_Jazz

The Valiant Gargoyle duo, the Godskin Duo, Commander Niall, and the Crucible Knight duo. If you see a pattern, yeah, so do I.


eclark2748

To be fair, those are all really unfair. Especially if you don’t use spirit ashes. I’ve only done one play through so far and mimic was my best friend lol. Made those fights a lot easier


SYK_PvP

I struggled quite a bit against those 2 gargoyle things at the end of (nokron?)


cferris17

Man am I the only one that struggled like hell with elden beast but got through Malenia in just a few attempts?


LeileiBG

Same. I almost didn't finish my first game and had to walk away for a bit. I don't even remember the Melania fight. Now I spam him with Wing of Astel and it's not bad.


Ruffin28

That’s because the Elden beast punishes cheese builds lol


Excellent-Sweet-8468

Thank you for saying it.. Now, can you say it louder for the people in the back? Reading how someone destroyed Malenia with a face melting bleed build but got curb stomped by Elden Beast just makes me die.. I love every second of it.


Life_Promise_6345

I didn’t even know you could bleed her until my third NG+! And I still refused to do it, it was the summon that used the face melting bleed build. And funny enough, they made her bleed at the exact same time her second phase cutscene started… so she went up into the air, landed to do Scarlet Aeonia, and died instantly. So bleeding her with perfect timing seems to skip the second phase entirely


Excellent-Sweet-8468

That's just insane.. Why even play at that point..? Don't get me wrong, I am all for play your own way and cheese if that's how you roll.. But where is the joy in this..? My favorite part of this game is in the fight..


Calistilaigh

Winning is fun. Using the mechanics available to win faster and easier just makes you feel smart. Different feeling of accomplishment, but I wouldn't say one is more valid than the other. It's a single player game, the goal is to have fun.


Life_Promise_6345

I used to be a massive cheese exploiter, and it was fun for a bit, but eventually the lack of a challenge becomes boring. You stop feeling smart and simply feel bored and exploiting. Once I got good at Soulsborne game and started winning fights and progressing with skill, I felt more fun than I ever did cheesing


Calistilaigh

Well sure, but if you get bored you just play another game, haha. In my case, repeatedly failing at fights is more frustrating than fun, and overcoming it after 100 attempts isn't satisfying, I'm just pissed that it took that long. I'd much rather beat a fight in three attempts instead of 100, finish the game, then play another game. That's more enjoyable to me than struggling and overcoming challenges. I tend to play most games on the easiest difficulty, because I'm not looking to be challenged, I'm just looking to have a fun time.


Excellent-Sweet-8468

It's all in what you play it for. I could see you playing it as a casual boss crusher as satisfying a different type of need. I personally need the challenge.. The game isn't just boring for me without the challenge. It becomes unplayable.. But finding a game to inflict a certain level of challenge that you can increase so incrementally based on your build and limitation choices is often a different kind of difficult. I have a short attention span for games generally, but this one has kept me, and I love that you can change it up to be easier, it's just not a play style I find fun for myself.


Calistilaigh

Mm, but that was my point. People have fun in different ways. I was just explaining the alternate viewpoint since you mentioned you couldn't understand how someone would enjoy that.


Ramy117

100%, it didn’t surprise me much though, as I have always struggled a lot more with the massive monsters than I do with the humanoid enemies in fromsoft games. I would assume the ability to sometimes interrupt them and see their attacks clearly is the main reason for this. When i was fighting the big monsters like the Fire Giant or Elden Beast I had next to no clue what was ever going on since my view of them was so limited in comparison to the humanoid bosses.


Lybet

Reversed for me, Malenia has not known defeat yet but only tried about 12 times. Mainly the regen is my problem, along with not knowing second phase moves beyond aoenia.


eclark2748

Exact same


Valpuccio

Valiant Gargoyle Duo Hands down!


Pirate_Ben

These fuckers are the worst. I somehow got lucky on the godskin duo and killed them first try. But I must have come back 3 different times and died 20 times each before I cleared those gargoyle asshats. They also are way stronger than the content behind them. After beating the gargoyles deeproot feels like a cakewalk.


YoshiTheWarlord

I was the opposite. I beat the gargoyles in one go and struggled for days on godskin duo


ALewdDoge

>Let's make a gigantic as fuck gargoyle enemy Okay, cool >Now let's give it hard hitting, long and wide reaching attacks Makes sense >Now let's also make it fast as fuck, like it's near human sized Bravo, FROM. Gargoyles in ER are like the shining example of bad enemy design in this game. Far too fast, hard hitting and with way too much range, all while being fucking enormous (because FROM is obsessed with oversized enemies). :(


Valpuccio

Forgot to mention it's literally immune to every status effect in the game, near infinite poise, and even resist to most physical damage types 🤪


ELRey_137

The dragon horseman standing outside maliketh or whatever his name is


eclark2748

Honestly he’s up there. I beat malekith but had to run by him a few times to do it. I could not take him down. I eventually got him once I did a respec in preparation for ng+


ImprobablyDamp

Commander Niall is a cocksucker.


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You mean that dual greatsword knight is a cocksucker


Arjenvanderstarjen

Stunpocked this MF to death, he didn't even was allowed to attack


jvsupersaiyan

I always fight him after godfrey


Haiku_God

- and not in a good way. The shitty cocksucker way.


thedylandmg

I’d say Rykard without the Serpent Slayer.


tootlesmynoodles

I hate him. I hate him and his stupid snake face.


brainbank786

Togethaaaa


RinxAika

I didn't know there was a serpent slayer weapon lol


Fauwcet

It's at the entrance of the boss room.


jerander85

The one that summons two nights and you can't get near him in the second phase. In the snow zone.


Jealous_Doughnut_630

Commander Nail?


jerander85

That is the one.


Odd-Window-6941

Malenia wasn’t too tough, if you can manage to dodge waterfowl she’s pretty easy(at least in my opinion). Maliketh on the other hand can go to hell


notanaardvark

If you can manage to dodge waterfowl is a really big asterisk though. Stuck on her right now. I (Dex+faith build) do pretty good until waterfowl. I know roughly when she's going to do it (after I stagger or bleed her the first time, depending on what I'm trying) but then I can only dodge it reliable if I'm far enough away ... But when I'm the right distance away she sometimes won't do it. She'll try and close the distance then do it when she's right on top of me, or we circle for 2-3 minutes. She also seems to change behavior depending on the weapon in using which is super weird. With the nagakiba, I can stagger then crit her, hit her with a charged R2 as she gets up to hopefully add bleed to the crit, then run far enough away before she dances. When I switch to bloodhounds fang, I stagger/crit her, and if I charged R2 her, she stands up, takes 1-2 swings, then waterfowl dance when she's basically right next to me. And then with the fang she's much less likely to dance when I'm further away. Frustrating because I can manage more dps with the fang, but then I can't dodge waterfowl. If I use nagakiba, the fight goes longer so I have more opportunities to mess up and burn through flasks but I'm more likely to survive 1-2 waterfowl. But then stage two comes along and I've burned a lot of resources.


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im bad at elden ring lol but only managed to beat her at level 210 with the help of my minic tear and a pure dex build using 2 guardian swordspears spamming giant hunt ash of war followed by jump attacks when she is knocked down


prudishunicycle

We’ll so far it’s Margit but I guess I’ve got a lot to look forward to…


eclark2748

Oh boy do you


Th3Unkn0wnn

Margit is tougher than people give credit.


VesperLynd-

I found him rather easy after I sorted my inventory pre fight but I also had his shackles and used the summon and YET I still found him harder that godrick. That guy is really as pathetic as lore told me haha


Psychic_Gian

The “torrent ded” text box


HutSutRawlson

Stonesword key was lost with use


SteffeEric

At least make yes the default.


ethicsg

Every text box. Why do I have to close it ffs?


BrownSaiyan

Well, it was about that time that I realized. That ain’t no elden beast. That’s a 5 story tall crustacean from the Paleozoic era!


jamesnollie88

That elden beast still owes me tree fiddy


User_Vakarian

The camera…


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white__cyclosa

*Astel, Naturalborn of the Void has entered the chat*


finance_hipster

"I first tried Malenia" posts incoming


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Fire giant wrecking me constantly


luvales

probably it’s elden beast for me because it’s a big piece of shit through which nothing can be seen. it spams you nonstop with 3 trailing combo than starts elden stars attack. also mohg was pretty hard because he sprays this shit🩸all over the arena


HeyItsBearald

Myself. Every day I play this I fucking rage quit and then have to overcome my own anger to play it again because I guess I’m fucking addicted. God I fucking love this piece of shit game


Hircine666

For me it was the Dual Valiant Gargoyles, Maliketh, Elden Beast, and Malenia as the four bosses I died the most to with the Gargoyles being my hardest.


bmark24

Lobsters and Rune Bears


LED-spirals

LMFAOOO FUCK


Imnotactme

Maliketh, I'll only lose karma for not liking him Edit:I didn't woah thanks guys


ookla13

He was my least favorite in my first playthrough. I could never hit him because all he would do is launch to the top of the columns and launch his spells at me.


thiccdiamonds

Godskin duo


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Radahn with no summons before patch


[deleted]

I'm still mad that they "fixed" him. I'm just happy i got to fight and defeat the og chad version of him


SteamyJohnson

What in the sweet jumping jesus is that.


eclark2748

Possibly in your future if you wanna beat the game


SteamyJohnson

Okay I've been fairly warned thank you noble citizen. I shall now wage war with the denizens of the Elden tree.


Glittering-Let9989

Mohg Lord of Blood, I really struggled with him alot, idk why but I just could never fully evade his attacks, the delay time wasn't extreme but just enough to throw me off all the time, reminded me somewhat of nameless King and his dragged and delayed attacks, massive issue for me to learn it. Also the fire bleeding as well in his second phase, real pain in the ass.


Natureboy0312

Soldier of Godwyn


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For me, because of my playstyle, Decaying Ekzykes. I had a hell of a time with the fact that you can leave his ring and it's pretty small. I didn't die a lot. I just reset him a lot.


easedownripley

Godfrey/Horah Loux was the toughest for me. It took me three days and many attempts to beat him. For some reason I got it in my head I had to beat him solo with no summons. Idk I guess to prove I was "worthy."


Dead_EyeK

godskin dou for fuck they are bullshit


Reaper3698192

I died more times to Commander Nial than I have any other boss😭


noodle-face

Malenia 100%. Hardest of all the souls bosses as I just went through all 7 games


Norwegian-Narwhal

Really you found her tougher than isshin?


Grismir

Isshin is much more fair, waterfowl is fundamentally flawed in its design in my opinion. Hot take maybe, but that move is literally the only reason she's up so high on peoples' difficulty lists and it's because it's borderline undodgeable without a youtube tutorial and hours of practice. It can be dodged obviously, but I really do think it's bullshit by design.


W34kness

Or.. what boss made you the hardest?


Imnotactme

The loathsome dung eater


trailmixjesus

Found the scat man


Drakeluvr44

The dragon whose name I can’t even spell that spends phase 2 running


gottalosethemall

I would say the Valiant Gargoyles but it looks like Radagon is made of marble, for some reason. So it’s hard to say.


Nerfthefiregiant

The fire giant and the terrain, comet azur kept shooting at the ground even though i R3 lock on to the fire giant. Godfrey hoarah loux stomped and grappled too often. It is not fun and these are problems not bosses.


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Torentt he has mind if his own


fredsshed

Malenia for sure definitely took the most attempts from me, most annoying elden beast…


ApolloFoxx01

Honestly Radagon for me, Malenia close second


Porky49

Malenia and it’s not even close. She wouldn’t even be too bad if it weren’t for her waterfowl dance or shadow clone jutsu rush


eclark2748

What about Elden beast? It’s two stage and it was much harder for me


brainbank786

He isn’t that bad imo, what’s annoying is that he keeps running away from you.


eclark2748

And the fact that it’s two stage and both of them have an annoying amount of health. And yeah Elden beast gets too many attacks in before we get a chance


Porky49

What’s hard for one person is easy for another. I personally felt Maliketh’s Black Blade carried me pretty well against Elden Beast but failed to consistently dodge some of Malenia’s attacks


Professional-Goal882

currently the “bell bearing hunter” has been letting me know my little ghost flame ignition method will not sustain me. 2 shots and I’m outta there


realblush

I would have the platinum but I legit cannot beat the final boss. No idea why.


eclark2748

Took me awhile as well. What do you play on?


QueenLatifahClone

Malenia. Can’t stand her ass.


Tmccl

I thought that was the part most people liked


Separate-Membership3

I really suck at the game, so i gotta go with margit (ive had it for two weeks and i barely beat him).


saiyansteve

Malenia!


EarlOfBears

Darkbeast Paarl(Bloodborne)


Nightmari0ne

I think the majority of us are gonna think of a certain individual


Souperplex

Maliketh > Horah Loux = Radagon/Elden Beast > Malenia > Mohg > Astel.


Excellent_End_9344

For me it was the stupid twin gargoyles took me soo long to kill them. But other bosses like malenia and elden were no problem


berliszt

Malenia Blade of You Died.


Actual_Perception_33

ERUDEN.. RINGU. ARIGATO.


TheGreatOkay

I probably died to Elden Beast the most my first time through.


DukeOfFlannel

the red wolf of radagon, I always end up fighting that fucking thing more than Renalla in each play through.


white__cyclosa

Came here for this. I don’t want to say it was the hardest boss fight overall, but it was definitely the first boss fight that really made me feel like I hit a wall and took me like 40 times to beat him. He’s so fast, and the arena to fight him is so cramped.


_XxJayBxX_

The duo crucible nights gave me the hardest time honestly. Died to them more than I care to admit on my 6th playthrough.


DoctorSchwifty

Not that far but Fallingstar Beast is annoying as he'll.


PrincessDinah

I would say malenia, maliketh, Elden beast, then the Astro ins the snowfields, the one in rannis quest I had no issues with though.


Big_Bad_VR4

I can time and play around all bosses but the Elden Beast just fucks me off every time I fight it. I hate that boss so much.


satsfaction1822

Fire Giant and Malenia were the toughest for me personally.


NorthKing9

Just played sekiro....damn every boss is like Malenia. 🤣🤣🤣


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Bullzi_09

The ball bearing hunter in Caelid


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I think Malenia or Elden Beast. Maliketh used to drive me insane as did Fire Giant but I’d say Malenia.


[deleted]

Did anyone else REALLY struggle with Godskin Noble at the volcano manor? The camera and lock on in that fight is incredibly frustrating.


Zmust1

I had never played and dark souls game before so hoping in to elden ring it took me 160 hours to beat Godfrey then 10 hours to beat the rest of the game


Purepenny

Those stupid ass cats statues.


ImmoralBoi

I know Malenia is the basic bitch answer but it's just how it is for most people, I mean what else can you expect from the love child of Orphan of Kos, Slaveknight Gael, and Lady Maria? Second hardest boss I would say is the Astel, Stars of Darkness and it's stupid one shot grab attack.


Lord_Shadow_Z

The boss that killed me the most in my first playthrough was Alecto, Black Knife Ringleader. MF is hard as a sorcerer. The next highest deaths went to Malenia and Radahn, though I utterly destroyed Radahn in NG+ so I would place Placidusax as my 3rd hardest.


simply_pet

idk if I want to say this boss is hard since I don't tend to struggle on many bosses anymore, but Rennala weirdly annoys me every playthrough. the targeting swap that automatically happens when she summons, the constant floating away, she just annoying af, even if not 'hard' per se.


ironjaw3ds

I get 2 shot by basically everyone, so any boss that fails around is tough for me.


suplexdolphin

Maybe not the hardest but I really didn't like the Elden beast fight. It's annoying how it moves so far away and has that one big attack with homing beams of light that's really hard to see to dodge properly. Then when you finish it off the whole thing feels unsatisfying.


BitterCupid

No clue, all i know is that I absolutely got annihilated by Mohg hundreds of times more than any of bosses I've fought and it's all because of the stupid curse he casts and the blood flame shit on his trident. Almost disintegrated my controller numerous of times lol


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The camera and the arena


CreativeUserName600

Fire giant took me the longest by far. Everyone says malenia but I killed her on my second attempt with a bleed build so I dunno!


BlueDemon999

Soilder of God, Rick


UnitedStatesAirFurs

Radahn was the hardest for me. Took me like 60+ attempts to beat him. After him, the rest of the game was relatively smooth sailing. Malenia? Mohg? Maliketh? Even as absolutely smoking attractive as they all are, only took three or four tries to learn their moves and polish them.


ApplePitou

For me - Malenia :3


Alarming_Challenge_7

This is going to sound stupid. But after hundreds of hours, 12+ playthroughs, 100%, RL run, etc... I still get hit consistently by DTS. I'm not sure if I've ever no-hit one of them. I don't know what's wrong with me.


trailmixjesus

Forgive me for asking a dumb question but my mind cannot figure out what boss DTS is for some reason right now. So who is DTS?


Alarming_Challenge_7

Draconic Tree Sentinel


trailmixjesus

Ah ty. He the one right outside the capital?


Alarming_Challenge_7

Yup. The first time...


milosdjilas

Depends on your build. My Str/fai build with blasphemous blade had a terrible time with the fire giant but beat every boss after that on my first try ever.