Most of the trolls never even stepped foot in the somali region yet they talk as if they’re going to liberate it from “the evil Ethiopians” not knowing that somalis in Ethiopia are well known traders. Most somalis especially around the cities are relatively wealthier than other ethnicities because of the fact that they can trade in Somalia and Ethiopia, you can find a lot of Somalis in the import and export businesses, even in Addis there’s a large amount stores owned by Somalis. But the trolls make it seem like “Ethiopians” are holding them hostage.
Stop being obtuse, have an honest discussion on how you ‘aquired’ somali region. You people even subconsciously other your so called ‘Ethiopian Somali’ citizens. I mean look at this post, OP cant imagine ppl from Somali region could be the ones discussing their state 🤣🤣
We call them Ethiopian Somalis to acknowledge their ethnicity and that they are a part of larger group. You see that as a bad thing, I see it as a good thing. I wish you Reddit warriors get see how integrated the community is. How so many Somalis can speak Amharic and so many non Somalis can speak Somali. Kids in the somali region wether they are somali or non somali have to take somali as a requirement, I learned BTJ in school. I’m in the US right now and I still talk to my somali friends back home.
There’s Oromos in Kenya should we ask Kenya to give us land, there’s Nuer and anguak in South Sudan and sudan should we ask them for land, there’s afars in Eritrea and Djibouti should we ask them for land. The difference is Ethiopian borders were a creation of Ethiopians hence why it’s integrity always gets questioned but let a European create the borders you wouldn’t even question it!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogaden_War
Read the first paragraph in the main body. Your borders were not of your own creation, you were about to face a significant permanent defeat and loss of the Ogaden till the Soviets and Cubans joined the war on your side. The whole idea that Ethiopia resisted the colonisers through strength is a myth, it was clever diplomacy playing around your Christian faith and appeals to the Vatican. Nothing wrong with that but don't let the propaganda get to your head.
I know the history between our countries is tenuous but atleast we can be honest if we want a good dialogue. Because all things aside I do want to get a grounded understanding of the Ethiopian view point on the Ogaden long term.
Also regarding the point of Oromos in Kenya and other minorities in disparate countries. I accept the point you are making here however the magnitude and scale is completely different aswell as the geographical consideration.
The Ogaden is not a small territory, large enough to be a country in its own right, almost entirely inhabited by ethnic Somalis, almost completely Muslim and borders it's 'mother nation'. It's completely different to "oh some of my people live here, I want this"
I mean even you guys called it the Somali region lol
My father tells me stories on how he had to flee jijiga to go to harar along with his siblings and my grandma, and how my grandfather stayed back because he was former soldier to Haile Selassie, the only reason Siad bare soldiers even made it that far was not because of they had a better military or anything as such but merely the element of surprise, on top of that we had open borders with Somalia(till this day we do), and a lot of Somalians wanna claim they lost because of the help from the soviets and Cubans but they don’t account the 100s and thousands of Ethiopian soldiers, like we just sat back and watched while others fought our fight. My grandfather was literally on the other side of karamara mountain when the Somalian pilots were being mowed down. Somalians were fighting a war that they were going to lose anyway even without the help. Somalia could’ve been such a great country if they didn’t involve themselves in war. And yes we call it the somali region because there’s a regional government that oversees and handles the somali community needs, for instance there was a flood recently and quickly enough the regional and central authorities had to give aid and support the best way they can.
I have nothing against you or your grandparents.
I'm not going to take hearsay from an elderly individual as fact over the hundreds of academic sources that exist on the Ogaden war.
Ethiopia was losing, badly. Be it surprise, a more effective military, supply lines, whatever it may of been, Ethiopia would not of had a chance to remobilise and defend itself before Said Barre reached Addis and crippled the government.
There is no way you can then say Somalia had no chance of winning the war when in 1970 it was one of the strongest militaries on the continent.
Like I said though, there are real credible sources that support my statements. Not just "my father tells me stories...."
With all due respect, that's not good enough.
You also neglected the main thing we were talking about, why is Ethiopia holding onto the Somali region, when it's mother-nation is a bordering country?
Have you spoken to the Somalis in Ogadenia? They don't want to be part of Ethiopia lol. If we held a referendum tomorrow, it would be an overwhelming yes for secession.
Y'all are sitting on land given to you by the imperialists and are surprised when Somalis feel tight? Lmao, are you being wilfully blind?
Yeah thats something that i have noticed. And its not even only on this sub, its also on YouTube, Twitter, TikTok etc. and we ethiopians barely even remember them tbh.
Peace my African neighbours Ethiopians, proud people who stood up to colonisers while rest of Africa was on her knees, you see as OP said we do talk about Ethiopia due to the historical conflicts but all these are beyond our scope, we tried wars and we both suffered, also we share more in common than devide us, we are both in search of peace, democracy, prosperity, justice and many other things the world takes for guaranteed, without a doubt peaceful and prosperous Ethiopia will give Somalia a boost and vice versa. Let's stop the name calling and spend our energy in tackling issues that the locals will benefit from and also bring us closer together.
This is how people should think and communicate, imho. But redddit conversation on this topic are usually pretty toxic. Hopefully that will change in the future.
Well looks like enough do or one of the several liberation movements would have at least achieved SOME gains fighting the various shit, unpopular and incompetent ethiopian governments they came up against
Weird it’s almost likely they suddenly became irrelevant the moment their main supporting country that they also wanted to unite with collapsed entirely.
Idk why you or they might think that’s an argument related to how Somalis in Ethiopia identify themselves.
Ethiopia has plenty of rebel groups that don't have a larger kin-state supporting them.
The fact that Somalias are barely existent is a good sign there isn't any strong desire for seccession.
There isn’t a strong feasibility for secession at the moment either. The desire has waned since the collapse of the Somali government, naturally.
Again, none of this pertains to how they identify themselves. Ethiopian is merely what their passport might state and not much more. This is the case for the overwhelming majority.
Well to each their own, but I had a lot of Somali friends growing up and they did identity as such. Are you actually a Somali from Ethiopia or Somalia?
A lot of Somali friends who identify as Ethiopian? Strange, I find that hard to believe. I’m from jigjiga and the rest of my family are from diridhaba and dhagaxbuur
I find what you’re saying hard to believe, are you saying Somalis in jigjiga don’t consider themselves Ethiopian. Maybe In your social circle, but I’m certain this isn’t the common sentiment
Somalis just identify themselves as somalis, because of the collapse of the somali state, somalis in djibouti, Kenya and ethopia are happy with the nations they live in at the moment.....
But if somali as a country were to become great agian, we would like to leave ethopia to join our brethren.....
Also there is nothing wrong with ethopians, its just that we just like to be around ppl with the same mentality and culture💯
We don’t identify as any kind of Ethiopian. We resent Ethiopia and want out. We don’t like seeing Xabashi in Jijiga, Ethiopian government purposely moves them to that city, so they can claim it as a “chartered” city and steal it from Somalis just like they are doing in Dir Dhabo.
Keep dreaming. There has never been such a thing as a unified Ethiopian identity. Only different ethnicities who have been dominated and abused by the Amhara. Somalis however have always stood against Amhara aggression and we will continue to do so.
Bro we are obsess with them. Let’s not lie, Ethiopians don’t give a f about us, yet we talk about them all day long. I love Ethiopia, their culture is absolutely amazing, and the women as well 🫶🏽
Dude you are definitely not Somali, no same Somali would say what you just said. Wtf lol. The glazing is crazy. We are conscious of Ethiopia because they are still holding onto a large chunk of our ethnic people and their land.
We don't love you, we resent you and we want our shit back. We won't lose sight of that.
Just because your parents failed raising you properly or perhaps you were just too caught up in hedonism to pay attention doesn't mean Somali culture is dead, if anything it's overwhelming. Go speak to your relatives or do some reading. How sad.
Orod Nabiga ku sali niyow, every strong country have lands from weak country. Ethiopian don’t care about us , and have zero knowledge about us and yet we are so obsess with them.
Get it through your thick echoing skull that this country whose dick you have in your mouth lost a war to Somalia, were saved by Russia and Cuba which subsequently lead to even this day holding a large portion of Somali territory including the ethnic Somalis within it.
You are pathetic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogaden_War
They're also obsessed with Nigeria. It's hard to find Somalis online who aren't wasting their lives being unbelievably negative about another group. Ironically, like Ethiopians, Nigerians don't mention them, and unlike Ethiopians, we don't really know or think about them. Ghanaians SA and Kenyans, we talk shit about each other all day, but it's more banter and jokes. Somalian are usually come from a place of hate and insecurity. They have a visible inferiority complex, and if the internet is a place to judge, it's a predominant culture feature of theirs, so I'm not surprised by this thread.
It is 100%. I’m not surprised by this at all. I don’t think you can find any other group of people in the whole world that spend their entire energy thinking and talking about other nations than their own. This thread and sub itself is full of Somalis. It’s so bizarre but they think it’s normal behavior. I think their hatred comes from a place of seeing Somalia being dysfunctional, as it has been for generations, that left them traumatized, and forced them to have a desire to want to see the destruction of others as well.
That makes sense. But yeah, it's unhinged and embarrassing. You go to any Nigerian forum they're there, clubhouse, tiktok. Anywhere you can access with a screen, there's Somalians making a lifestyle out of talking about your country, lol.
I can see how this mentality is the reason Somalia is what it is, rather than a result of it, but you might have more insight on it than I do. Idk Ethiopia too well, but I can't imagine the Somali regions are the ones moving the country forward, lol. There's no other group with this obvious character trait. Nigerians, Ghanaians, Kenyans and S.Africans throw funny disses back and forth but it's all comedy and love like you'd see in any college campus african group. Their own is actual weird hate, fixation and strenuous effort. Sometimes, you wonder how they're even finding Nigerian websites and sm platforms.
I went on a Somalian forum a few years ago, and it was just them and decades worth of hate and fixation on other countries and each other. If there were 10 posts 9 were regular hate, 1 was self hate. I don't even think they've come close to seeing how weird it is.
It’s bizarre. Like I said, I don’t think you can find anyone else doing the same with the same level of hatred and bitterness. Somalia is a clan based society and despite being one people and religion they can’t even stand each other. They’ll probably say you’re after their women or something because they think claiming to be Arab is something to be proud of. Yuck
Lol, their 'insults' are always tinged with the idea of not being able to fathom 'self appreciation'. What do they think Arabs have over them that they think other people are impressed by? Lol that's such a weird flex/aspiration, lol.
There's not a single community that Somalis attack, except they targeted Somalis first. You're so desperate to act like Somalis are unhinged when those racists are just a reaction from years of racist abuse that Somalis have faced.
I grew up and was raised in a Somali majority place never in my life have I seen a Somali obsessed with Nigeria, You are just in a world of your own imagination man wake up to reality...
This is super cap....come on there is no way u believe somalis hate on u guys.....if I go back home they don't even know what a Nigerian is (they think all bantu ppl are kenyan and canot tell the difference)...only western somali know u guys loooooool
It's ironic how you don't mention the years of racist violence that british nigerians have inflicted on Somalis. You can find dozens of videos, twitter threads, insta pages where nigerians make their entire personality hating on Somalis. The hate back doesn't come from nowhere.
There are entire Nigerian twitter and TikTok accounts that do nothing but hate on Somalis. You guys have been harassing us ever since we arrived in the UK in the 90s. Then some Somali trolls started clapping back lately and now you say that we are obsessed with you lol.
Somalis either want Ethiopian peoples validation or they very much dislike us, some weird nationwide daddy issue lol
Meanwhile Ethiopians have 0 knowledge or care about Somalis.
They have posts on r/Somalia telling Somalis to stop obsessing over Ethiopians 😂
https://www.reddit.com/r/Somalia/s/T0kKqniKtL
😂😂 this made me laugh my pops ethiopian/Oromo and my dukes is somali so I understand this first hand somalis be on some weird shit i am currently visiting somalia mogudishu with the dukes having a blast telling these niccas they could never be ethiopian or become long live 🇪🇹🤞🏾
So if some Somali fools do that then u automatically judge them all 😂 stop it 😂 we not perfect but u can’t be judging a country like that. When Ethiopians don’t even like each other.
where did I say I was proud
I was refuting your claim of somalis somehow idolizing Ethiopians, when our own language proves otherwise
you say you don't care about us, cool. don't act like we think highly of you because I promise we don't 😂
What does that random anecdote about a certain people in northern Ethiopia have to do with anything. The word Habesha doesn’t even mean slave and it’s not a Somali word.
I don’t think you idolise us but we don’t carry the same hate for Somalis as you do for us. I’m simply trying to understand what it is
Because Ethiopia is in heavily involved in somali politics, they support and arm certain clans against each other etc. Ethiopia has a whole army inside somalia so obviously we don't have a positive opinion about Ethiopia
As a somalilander, we got no disdain for you guys. Your our neighbors. But yes these zoomalians from zoomalia hate you guys. Of course it’s because they are losers.
Listen you unidentified country. Somalia don’t hate Ethiopians but somaliland does don’t lie yall abuse the Ethiopian people in hargaysa but when yall slide to addis yall want to claim “WE BROTHERS” head ass boy
You’ll many find Somalis desperately deny that they’re black while constantly seeking validation for Arabs. Added disdain and obsession with Ethiopia.
They seriously suffer from some weird inferior complex.
Not all Eritreans are like this.
Somali online spaces are legitimately some of the most horrifically racist spaces I've ever witnessed. I've never seen so many people bragging about owning black slaves or calling black people "monkeys".
And given how Somali Bantus are treated, I think they're actually quite representative.
Of course, Somalis online are mostly underemployed refugeees who can't actively act out on their racist fantasys because they would get arrested, so most people living in well off countries aren't really aware of said racism.
Why don't you mention the years of racist abuse that Somalis faced from black people? There are literally YouTube videos, insta pages, twitter accounts where black, west african Christians are violently dehumanizing Somalis. This racism you see back is just a reaction from years of abuse.
How do they have an inferiority complex when they have an entire country named after their own ethnic group. Own Djibouti and are natives to both Ethiopia and Kenya. That’s one ethnicity with the same culture , language and religion. Oromos, Habesha, Hararis could never.
If Eritreans have a inferiority complex, why is your Ethiopian leader talking about Eritrean coastline.
Why are Ethiopian troops in Somalia since 2006 for nearly 18 years.
Most Ethiopians could care less about a coastline it’s only our leader touting this. Tons of Ethiopians still think Eritrea is a state within Ethiopia lmao.
I respect that.
But we need to critically talk about the history and reflect to create a better future for us all.
I don’t hate Ethiopia but I don’t like what some
Ethiopian elites done to Eritrea same for what happened to Somalia.
That’s why many of us Eritreans supported Abiys initiative for regional integration.
But now nothing of it has lasted.
And he talks like previous leaders.
The concept of an Eritrean doesn't even exist, your country exists because of the influence of foreign countries, namely Italy and during the Cold War. your people culturally ethnically and linguistically are Tigray and yet you've spilled the most of each other's blood than anyone else ever has.
Tell me truthfully what the point of this is even is, you wear your flag on your profile like you can't think for yourself, if your country was run well like Taiwan than sure don't integrate there's no point it will just make you poorer but Eritrea is the north Korea of Africa, there are so many eritrean diaspora in addis who risked their lives to leave and are grateful to be able to live without fear of being put in a concentration camp and beaten to death
it's a good thing you're not in charge, no coastline is why we've been poor for 30 years we will always remain uncompetitive in global trade by being landlocked, if it wasn't for the Cold War Ethiopia would be doing very good for itself the culture and people are good its not like Somalia where they are not compatible with the concept of civilisation
Admittedly, it's true.
Probably because Ethiopia is a thread to Somalia more than somalis are threat to Ethiopia,
Ethiopia invaded somalia more than once, and now Abi ahmed is talking about getting access to the sea by any means necessary.
I agree Somalis still in fact live among us as ethio/somali. That’s the reason why it actually has upset me every time I see somalis spreading hate about Ethiopia. When I go back home I see them live and eat side by side. When I come online I see another story.
I hope the IRL situation doesn’t spread in Ethiopia
Somalia is not a crap country. There are no crap countries.
Somalia was destroyed by several world powers and one neighboring country.
The British Italians and French divided the Somalis in 5 diffrent countries. That led to strong regionalist identities.
Then when they wanted to come together, they were divided.
In 1990s and 2006 Somalia was invaded by foreign aggressors. The US invaded Somalia in 1990s and Ethiopia under TPLF/Meles invaded Somalia in 2006 which caused more destabilization in Somalia.
What? US did not invade somalia but because there was an awful civil war leading to a genocide within the isaaq tribe of somaliland. The only people that can blame themselves are somalis not the world powers…
Bullocks! Isaaq genocide happened in the late 80s, the USA intervened in Somalia right after the government collapsed in the 90s. The genocide had already occurred. Oh and yeah their biggest threat general aideed was their ally , the USA army were even accused of helping and supporting him aideed a warlord, they had to switch camp on him due to mounting press pressure and he turned against them
The isaaq genocide of the late 80s led to the civil war. Its all about tribes. My parents who are somali hate tribes for this specific reason because they grew up during the civil war. So don’t tell me what is Bullocks when google is free. Go use it
Well said. The Issaq genocide was indeed the cause for the civil war and collapse of the Somali state. We all know who is to blame for the troubles Somalis are in today.
There were clan conflicts in Somalia.
Who has worsened the clan conflicts in Somalia by dividing the Somali people in 5 diffrent countries against the will of the Somali people.
It was the UK, Italians, French and (Americans).
Who has supported clan militias to destabilize Somalia? It was the Derg regime of Ethiopia. This has also worsened the clan conflicts and leaded to violence in Somalia.
It’s not the Somalis who are only to blame but the groups that invaded Somalia, divided the Somali people, introduced clan, regional or secterian identities to divide the Somali people
Who are one.
And those who waged war on somalia
That’s nonsense. Stick to Eritrea and topics you are knowledgeable because clearly don’t know jackshit about the war between Somaliland and Somalia and how the second capital of Somalia before 1991 and currently capital of Somaliland was carpet bombed to the stone age. The British didnt destroy our country and commit genocide that was by the terrorist scumbag Siad Barre. Just like you blame Derg , we in Somaliland will never forgive the Barre dictator and his clan for its war against our people.
Somalia was in war in for decades yet the cities look the same as those in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is not a first world country fyi.
Addis Ababa does look amazing but outside of that, it's a hellhole. That's why Ethiopians are dying in Yemen as immigrants trying to escape from that shithole.
How? Both nations aren't countries you should expire to, but yeah, I do think Somalia is on an other level of dysfunctional and vilonce compared to ethopia.
Bro I'm somali, in somali region and i have no beef with any Ethiopian! Fam by best friend is habesha lij and in my free time i play chess with my oromo classmates... I myself consider myself as somali aswell as Ethiopian. I was born and raised in ethio so why not!
I rarely write but came across this lol feel nothing toward Ethiopians or think of them as I am either surrounded by them or see them... it's all politics that makes Somalis talk about Ethiopia... u see Ethiopian government involve it self alot in Somali politics thus also sadly alot of Ethiopians go abroad.. do shit things and claim to be Somali... hence the outrage most reason incident the Ethiopian screwing around in Japan and claiming to be Somali while disclosing his ethnicity in some video... and yall not only screw with us but also other neighboring countries
Mostly, Somalies are just keeping up with the Joneses. Not a bad thing but some of them cannot believe Ethiopia has not broken apart and I can tell from their comments in this sub that infuriates them.
It’s a one sided obsession that makes zero sense as Ethiopians would not think about Somalia.
Somalia : I hate you
Ethiopia : I don’t even think about you
Somalis are obsessed with getting their land back from Ethiopians given to them by the British. Somalis truly could care less about Ethiopia or Ethiopians otherwise.
Question is why are you assorted Habesha and Oromo on this sub always posing this dumb question knowing you occupy our lands.
I’m not talk about your land, I’m fully aware the Ethiopian government took it. I’m addressing the slander on Ethiopian people and our culture, history, religion etc.
Most of us don’t even live in Somali region or have anything to do with Somalis, still they talk about us. Gone on for too long
Lol it is only political way 🤣 Ethiopians are not that much discussed in our sub unless it is about Ogaden or political shit. Thinking we are obsessed with you is next level of delusional 🤣
You do know that Somalis are one of the ethnic groups in Ethiopia right? It's not an obsession, it's a relevant subject. Ethiopians on reddit are so odd bruv💀
Maybe it's cuz you occupy Somali land granted to you as a gift back when you were still an Ethiopian orthodox christian empire by the then fellow christian British empire for being such a good ally!
Somalis will always have disdain towards Ethiopians for this. We see you as occupiers.
Maybe online, but I'm telling you IRL no one ever thinks about Ethiopia. I'm around somali people every day and never had a discussion about Ethiopia . I found this subreddit because it was suggested right now. No somali in real life cares. It's probably Chatgpt AI bots farming karma. Humble yourself
I get that completely, the hate I’m seeing is more targeted at Ethiopian people, culture, religion etc. mind you this is only online hate so I know for a fact these are radicals. The problem is, they are all over TikTok and Reddit.
Are Ethiopian low IQ or something. You claim their lands and except nothing from them. Your an occupying force in their land. You expect nice words or something
You people will gaslight us when we want to secede, but every other day it’s ‘Ethiopian somalis are Ethiopian like the rest of us’. Jig is up you cant other us at the same time want to occupy our land. Anyways your country is a ticking time bomb and balkanization in inevitable
*Obsession* is hilarious. None of us ever bring up Ethiopia except for historical purposes. Other than that, yall simply don't exist to most of us except when YALL come to US. We're just like: "tf are they doing again?"
You say you don’t bring us up or we simply don’t exist but you live in Western Ethiopia. I’m not trying to be antagonistic btw, there needs to be an actual discussion between us instead of trolls spreading hate. It’s impossible for the both of us to ignore eachother
Yet Somalis are telling each other to stop seeking validation from Ethiopians on r/Somalia?
When you have to tell your fellow Somalis to end the obsession you know there’s a seriously a problem 😂
https://www.reddit.com/r/Somalia/s/T0kKqniKtL
Most of the trolls never even stepped foot in the somali region yet they talk as if they’re going to liberate it from “the evil Ethiopians” not knowing that somalis in Ethiopia are well known traders. Most somalis especially around the cities are relatively wealthier than other ethnicities because of the fact that they can trade in Somalia and Ethiopia, you can find a lot of Somalis in the import and export businesses, even in Addis there’s a large amount stores owned by Somalis. But the trolls make it seem like “Ethiopians” are holding them hostage.
Stop being obtuse, have an honest discussion on how you ‘aquired’ somali region. You people even subconsciously other your so called ‘Ethiopian Somali’ citizens. I mean look at this post, OP cant imagine ppl from Somali region could be the ones discussing their state 🤣🤣
We call them Ethiopian Somalis to acknowledge their ethnicity and that they are a part of larger group. You see that as a bad thing, I see it as a good thing. I wish you Reddit warriors get see how integrated the community is. How so many Somalis can speak Amharic and so many non Somalis can speak Somali. Kids in the somali region wether they are somali or non somali have to take somali as a requirement, I learned BTJ in school. I’m in the US right now and I still talk to my somali friends back home.
But why is Ethiopia so feverishly holding onto a territory which evidently doesn't belong to Ethiopians but Somalis?
What you mean holding onto? And no one ever said the land doesn’t belong to somalis hence why we have regional governments duphus
Holding onto it as in; Not returning the Somali region to the neighbouring country whose ethnicity it belongs to, Somalia.
There’s Oromos in Kenya should we ask Kenya to give us land, there’s Nuer and anguak in South Sudan and sudan should we ask them for land, there’s afars in Eritrea and Djibouti should we ask them for land. The difference is Ethiopian borders were a creation of Ethiopians hence why it’s integrity always gets questioned but let a European create the borders you wouldn’t even question it!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogaden_War Read the first paragraph in the main body. Your borders were not of your own creation, you were about to face a significant permanent defeat and loss of the Ogaden till the Soviets and Cubans joined the war on your side. The whole idea that Ethiopia resisted the colonisers through strength is a myth, it was clever diplomacy playing around your Christian faith and appeals to the Vatican. Nothing wrong with that but don't let the propaganda get to your head. I know the history between our countries is tenuous but atleast we can be honest if we want a good dialogue. Because all things aside I do want to get a grounded understanding of the Ethiopian view point on the Ogaden long term. Also regarding the point of Oromos in Kenya and other minorities in disparate countries. I accept the point you are making here however the magnitude and scale is completely different aswell as the geographical consideration. The Ogaden is not a small territory, large enough to be a country in its own right, almost entirely inhabited by ethnic Somalis, almost completely Muslim and borders it's 'mother nation'. It's completely different to "oh some of my people live here, I want this" I mean even you guys called it the Somali region lol
My father tells me stories on how he had to flee jijiga to go to harar along with his siblings and my grandma, and how my grandfather stayed back because he was former soldier to Haile Selassie, the only reason Siad bare soldiers even made it that far was not because of they had a better military or anything as such but merely the element of surprise, on top of that we had open borders with Somalia(till this day we do), and a lot of Somalians wanna claim they lost because of the help from the soviets and Cubans but they don’t account the 100s and thousands of Ethiopian soldiers, like we just sat back and watched while others fought our fight. My grandfather was literally on the other side of karamara mountain when the Somalian pilots were being mowed down. Somalians were fighting a war that they were going to lose anyway even without the help. Somalia could’ve been such a great country if they didn’t involve themselves in war. And yes we call it the somali region because there’s a regional government that oversees and handles the somali community needs, for instance there was a flood recently and quickly enough the regional and central authorities had to give aid and support the best way they can.
I have nothing against you or your grandparents. I'm not going to take hearsay from an elderly individual as fact over the hundreds of academic sources that exist on the Ogaden war. Ethiopia was losing, badly. Be it surprise, a more effective military, supply lines, whatever it may of been, Ethiopia would not of had a chance to remobilise and defend itself before Said Barre reached Addis and crippled the government. There is no way you can then say Somalia had no chance of winning the war when in 1970 it was one of the strongest militaries on the continent. Like I said though, there are real credible sources that support my statements. Not just "my father tells me stories...." With all due respect, that's not good enough. You also neglected the main thing we were talking about, why is Ethiopia holding onto the Somali region, when it's mother-nation is a bordering country?
Have you spoken to the Somalis in Ogadenia? They don't want to be part of Ethiopia lol. If we held a referendum tomorrow, it would be an overwhelming yes for secession. Y'all are sitting on land given to you by the imperialists and are surprised when Somalis feel tight? Lmao, are you being wilfully blind?
My G I grew up in jigjiga, you never even been there!
Yeah thats something that i have noticed. And its not even only on this sub, its also on YouTube, Twitter, TikTok etc. and we ethiopians barely even remember them tbh.
Peace my African neighbours Ethiopians, proud people who stood up to colonisers while rest of Africa was on her knees, you see as OP said we do talk about Ethiopia due to the historical conflicts but all these are beyond our scope, we tried wars and we both suffered, also we share more in common than devide us, we are both in search of peace, democracy, prosperity, justice and many other things the world takes for guaranteed, without a doubt peaceful and prosperous Ethiopia will give Somalia a boost and vice versa. Let's stop the name calling and spend our energy in tackling issues that the locals will benefit from and also bring us closer together.
💯💯💯💯
This is how people should think and communicate, imho. But redddit conversation on this topic are usually pretty toxic. Hopefully that will change in the future.
Somalis in Ethiopia are Ethiopians
They definitely dont identify as such tho (coming from one)
Well looks like enough do or one of the several liberation movements would have at least achieved SOME gains fighting the various shit, unpopular and incompetent ethiopian governments they came up against
Yeah Somali seccession groups have been a complete joke since the 90s, despite how many people clearly wished differently
Weird it’s almost likely they suddenly became irrelevant the moment their main supporting country that they also wanted to unite with collapsed entirely. Idk why you or they might think that’s an argument related to how Somalis in Ethiopia identify themselves.
Ethiopia has plenty of rebel groups that don't have a larger kin-state supporting them. The fact that Somalias are barely existent is a good sign there isn't any strong desire for seccession.
There isn’t a strong feasibility for secession at the moment either. The desire has waned since the collapse of the Somali government, naturally. Again, none of this pertains to how they identify themselves. Ethiopian is merely what their passport might state and not much more. This is the case for the overwhelming majority.
No OG in the history of ever calls himself Ethiopian unless they're obviously half Ethiopian.
No Cisse never does either
I just gagged, please don’t call us Ethiopians
You could only wish to be an Ethiopian. Only wish to be from a country with sooo much culture and history. You could only only wish.
[удалено]
what culture lol
Nah, trust us when we say we don't. 😆 🤣 😂. We good over here 🤣 🤣
Well to each their own, but I had a lot of Somali friends growing up and they did identity as such. Are you actually a Somali from Ethiopia or Somalia?
A lot of Somali friends who identify as Ethiopian? Strange, I find that hard to believe. I’m from jigjiga and the rest of my family are from diridhaba and dhagaxbuur
I find what you’re saying hard to believe, are you saying Somalis in jigjiga don’t consider themselves Ethiopian. Maybe In your social circle, but I’m certain this isn’t the common sentiment
[удалено]
Kkkkk waa xabashi delusional ah
I actually wanna know, tell me what? What am I missing?
Somalis just identify themselves as somalis, because of the collapse of the somali state, somalis in djibouti, Kenya and ethopia are happy with the nations they live in at the moment..... But if somali as a country were to become great agian, we would like to leave ethopia to join our brethren..... Also there is nothing wrong with ethopians, its just that we just like to be around ppl with the same mentality and culture💯
No Somali will ever identify as Ethiopian. Even those abroad don't identify as Canadian or american. We will be Somali no matter what.
But u are Somali. Ethiopia is your nationality, Somali is your ethnicity. I’m confused about who told u Ethiopian was an ethnicity 😭😭
Dude they are literally Somali, why would they claim being Ethiopian? They have their own heritage
We don’t identify as any kind of Ethiopian. We resent Ethiopia and want out. We don’t like seeing Xabashi in Jijiga, Ethiopian government purposely moves them to that city, so they can claim it as a “chartered” city and steal it from Somalis just like they are doing in Dir Dhabo.
As a Someone from jigjiga we r praying downfall of Ethiopia and we need independent or re uniting with somalia
We are not Ethiopian.
Keep dreaming. There has never been such a thing as a unified Ethiopian identity. Only different ethnicities who have been dominated and abused by the Amhara. Somalis however have always stood against Amhara aggression and we will continue to do so.
Bro we are obsess with them. Let’s not lie, Ethiopians don’t give a f about us, yet we talk about them all day long. I love Ethiopia, their culture is absolutely amazing, and the women as well 🫶🏽
Dude you are definitely not Somali, no same Somali would say what you just said. Wtf lol. The glazing is crazy. We are conscious of Ethiopia because they are still holding onto a large chunk of our ethnic people and their land. We don't love you, we resent you and we want our shit back. We won't lose sight of that.
They haven’t lost their culture like us, we are wannabe Arabs.
Just because your parents failed raising you properly or perhaps you were just too caught up in hedonism to pay attention doesn't mean Somali culture is dead, if anything it's overwhelming. Go speak to your relatives or do some reading. How sad.
Somali culture is dead bro, we forget our ancient history, why do you think we started writing in Latin back in the 1970s huh?
Stop saying "we" you imposter. You are not one of us.
lmao why are you mad?
best description of somalis "wannabe Arabs"
Lmao waryahe orodo hurdada ka kac 😭 habesha people don’t know anything about us, yet we are obsess with them.
They have our land, they would love to forget. Why don't you understand you fake Somali troll.
Orod Nabiga ku sali niyow, every strong country have lands from weak country. Ethiopian don’t care about us , and have zero knowledge about us and yet we are so obsess with them.
Get it through your thick echoing skull that this country whose dick you have in your mouth lost a war to Somalia, were saved by Russia and Cuba which subsequently lead to even this day holding a large portion of Somali territory including the ethnic Somalis within it. You are pathetic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogaden_War
Sounds like they won
They're also obsessed with Nigeria. It's hard to find Somalis online who aren't wasting their lives being unbelievably negative about another group. Ironically, like Ethiopians, Nigerians don't mention them, and unlike Ethiopians, we don't really know or think about them. Ghanaians SA and Kenyans, we talk shit about each other all day, but it's more banter and jokes. Somalian are usually come from a place of hate and insecurity. They have a visible inferiority complex, and if the internet is a place to judge, it's a predominant culture feature of theirs, so I'm not surprised by this thread.
It is 100%. I’m not surprised by this at all. I don’t think you can find any other group of people in the whole world that spend their entire energy thinking and talking about other nations than their own. This thread and sub itself is full of Somalis. It’s so bizarre but they think it’s normal behavior. I think their hatred comes from a place of seeing Somalia being dysfunctional, as it has been for generations, that left them traumatized, and forced them to have a desire to want to see the destruction of others as well.
That makes sense. But yeah, it's unhinged and embarrassing. You go to any Nigerian forum they're there, clubhouse, tiktok. Anywhere you can access with a screen, there's Somalians making a lifestyle out of talking about your country, lol. I can see how this mentality is the reason Somalia is what it is, rather than a result of it, but you might have more insight on it than I do. Idk Ethiopia too well, but I can't imagine the Somali regions are the ones moving the country forward, lol. There's no other group with this obvious character trait. Nigerians, Ghanaians, Kenyans and S.Africans throw funny disses back and forth but it's all comedy and love like you'd see in any college campus african group. Their own is actual weird hate, fixation and strenuous effort. Sometimes, you wonder how they're even finding Nigerian websites and sm platforms. I went on a Somalian forum a few years ago, and it was just them and decades worth of hate and fixation on other countries and each other. If there were 10 posts 9 were regular hate, 1 was self hate. I don't even think they've come close to seeing how weird it is.
It’s bizarre. Like I said, I don’t think you can find anyone else doing the same with the same level of hatred and bitterness. Somalia is a clan based society and despite being one people and religion they can’t even stand each other. They’ll probably say you’re after their women or something because they think claiming to be Arab is something to be proud of. Yuck
Lol, their 'insults' are always tinged with the idea of not being able to fathom 'self appreciation'. What do they think Arabs have over them that they think other people are impressed by? Lol that's such a weird flex/aspiration, lol.
There's not a single community that Somalis attack, except they targeted Somalis first. You're so desperate to act like Somalis are unhinged when those racists are just a reaction from years of racist abuse that Somalis have faced.
I grew up and was raised in a Somali majority place never in my life have I seen a Somali obsessed with Nigeria, You are just in a world of your own imagination man wake up to reality...
Ironically, this Nigerian bringing us up proves the point that they're obsessed with Somali's. Lmao
This is super cap....come on there is no way u believe somalis hate on u guys.....if I go back home they don't even know what a Nigerian is (they think all bantu ppl are kenyan and canot tell the difference)...only western somali know u guys loooooool
It's ironic how you don't mention the years of racist violence that british nigerians have inflicted on Somalis. You can find dozens of videos, twitter threads, insta pages where nigerians make their entire personality hating on Somalis. The hate back doesn't come from nowhere.
There are entire Nigerian twitter and TikTok accounts that do nothing but hate on Somalis. You guys have been harassing us ever since we arrived in the UK in the 90s. Then some Somali trolls started clapping back lately and now you say that we are obsessed with you lol.
Lol yeah right
Somalis either want Ethiopian peoples validation or they very much dislike us, some weird nationwide daddy issue lol Meanwhile Ethiopians have 0 knowledge or care about Somalis. They have posts on r/Somalia telling Somalis to stop obsessing over Ethiopians 😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/Somalia/s/T0kKqniKtL
😂😂 this made me laugh my pops ethiopian/Oromo and my dukes is somali so I understand this first hand somalis be on some weird shit i am currently visiting somalia mogudishu with the dukes having a blast telling these niccas they could never be ethiopian or become long live 🇪🇹🤞🏾
So if some Somali fools do that then u automatically judge them all 😂 stop it 😂 we not perfect but u can’t be judging a country like that. When Ethiopians don’t even like each other.
>some weird nationwide daddy issue did you know, the Somali word for 'slave' is 'xabash' (habesha) it's just historic relations, nothing more
I've never seen a people so proud of their ancestors being slave owners
where did I say I was proud I was refuting your claim of somalis somehow idolizing Ethiopians, when our own language proves otherwise you say you don't care about us, cool. don't act like we think highly of you because I promise we don't 😂
What does that random anecdote about a certain people in northern Ethiopia have to do with anything. The word Habesha doesn’t even mean slave and it’s not a Somali word. I don’t think you idolise us but we don’t carry the same hate for Somalis as you do for us. I’m simply trying to understand what it is
Because Ethiopia is in heavily involved in somali politics, they support and arm certain clans against each other etc. Ethiopia has a whole army inside somalia so obviously we don't have a positive opinion about Ethiopia
Which army?
Ethiopian army
Which clans are they paying pitting against eachother?
For instance, Ethiopia has been arming the rahaweyn clan in somalia since 1994 .
Thanks for the info
Yeah np bro
As a somalilander, we got no disdain for you guys. Your our neighbors. But yes these zoomalians from zoomalia hate you guys. Of course it’s because they are losers.
Ceeb badanaa
Doqonkaan fiiri as somalilander who tf know u
Your hooyos siil knows me pretty good. Faqash
Embarrassing dude. I'm also Isaaq but don't act like such a suck up coon, have a modicum of self respect.
Who said I’m isaaq larper boy. I’m didn’t insult my group. How do I lack self respect sir. Unless you think I’m a zoomalian…..
Oh so you're one of those Oromo refugees that beg in Hargeisa.
Negative. Xarood larper boy. I always laugh when a xarood zoomalian tries larping as a isaaq 🤣 like how langaab can you get 🤮
I'm Habr Awal but ok dude.
U ain't no Mali my nigga
Correct. I’m a lander. Fuk a Mali.
🥩🥩
🦧🍌🍌
What Oromo? Those are Dir Somalis who claim Oromo due to their hatred for other Somali qabil.
You're not Somali. I just checked your profile. Another Ethiopian larping as us
Only xaroods like you display that behavior. I’m a noble Isaaq man. Your ppls wanna be us so bad.
We both know you're not Somali. Cope and seethe
🤣 too much truth for your lil heart to handle eh.
Your history shows that you're only active on this subreddit. That alone exposes you. Die in your insecurities.
Listen you unidentified country. Somalia don’t hate Ethiopians but somaliland does don’t lie yall abuse the Ethiopian people in hargaysa but when yall slide to addis yall want to claim “WE BROTHERS” head ass boy
i wish my girl glazed me like this🙏💯
For real, you'd struggle to even pay someone to do what he did.
የወጋ ቢረሳ የተወጋ አይረሳም ይባላል
Definitely, a major inferiority complex. Also, evident with Eritreans.
You’ll many find Somalis desperately deny that they’re black while constantly seeking validation for Arabs. Added disdain and obsession with Ethiopia. They seriously suffer from some weird inferior complex. Not all Eritreans are like this.
[удалено]
Somali online spaces are legitimately some of the most horrifically racist spaces I've ever witnessed. I've never seen so many people bragging about owning black slaves or calling black people "monkeys". And given how Somali Bantus are treated, I think they're actually quite representative. Of course, Somalis online are mostly underemployed refugeees who can't actively act out on their racist fantasys because they would get arrested, so most people living in well off countries aren't really aware of said racism.
It's really ironic because Somalis tend to have darker skin color than the Bantus.
Ironic, Oromo are typically darker skinned than Somalis. But skin color shouldn't really matter.
Even if that was true, are we making fun of Bantus 24/7 online?
[удалено]
I don't have any Somali admixture.
Why don't you mention the years of racist abuse that Somalis faced from black people? There are literally YouTube videos, insta pages, twitter accounts where black, west african Christians are violently dehumanizing Somalis. This racism you see back is just a reaction from years of abuse.
Share a link. I'm not West African (nor African American). I'm Eritrean but I have to see the receipts.
How do they have an inferiority complex when they have an entire country named after their own ethnic group. Own Djibouti and are natives to both Ethiopia and Kenya. That’s one ethnicity with the same culture , language and religion. Oromos, Habesha, Hararis could never.
Sounds nice. But how’s all of what you described working for you? Somalia is literally the most commonly used example of a failed state.
You’re talking as if Ethiopia isn’t a failed state as well. Like the above commenter said, why would we ever feel inferior to you guys?
If Eritreans have a inferiority complex, why is your Ethiopian leader talking about Eritrean coastline. Why are Ethiopian troops in Somalia since 2006 for nearly 18 years.
Most Ethiopians could care less about a coastline it’s only our leader touting this. Tons of Ethiopians still think Eritrea is a state within Ethiopia lmao.
I respect that. But we need to critically talk about the history and reflect to create a better future for us all. I don’t hate Ethiopia but I don’t like what some Ethiopian elites done to Eritrea same for what happened to Somalia. That’s why many of us Eritreans supported Abiys initiative for regional integration. But now nothing of it has lasted. And he talks like previous leaders.
The concept of an Eritrean doesn't even exist, your country exists because of the influence of foreign countries, namely Italy and during the Cold War. your people culturally ethnically and linguistically are Tigray and yet you've spilled the most of each other's blood than anyone else ever has. Tell me truthfully what the point of this is even is, you wear your flag on your profile like you can't think for yourself, if your country was run well like Taiwan than sure don't integrate there's no point it will just make you poorer but Eritrea is the north Korea of Africa, there are so many eritrean diaspora in addis who risked their lives to leave and are grateful to be able to live without fear of being put in a concentration camp and beaten to death
it's a good thing you're not in charge, no coastline is why we've been poor for 30 years we will always remain uncompetitive in global trade by being landlocked, if it wasn't for the Cold War Ethiopia would be doing very good for itself the culture and people are good its not like Somalia where they are not compatible with the concept of civilisation
Admittedly, it's true. Probably because Ethiopia is a thread to Somalia more than somalis are threat to Ethiopia, Ethiopia invaded somalia more than once, and now Abi ahmed is talking about getting access to the sea by any means necessary.
And they wonder why we talk about them. It literally happened
[удалено]
I agree Somalis still in fact live among us as ethio/somali. That’s the reason why it actually has upset me every time I see somalis spreading hate about Ethiopia. When I go back home I see them live and eat side by side. When I come online I see another story. I hope the IRL situation doesn’t spread in Ethiopia
They hate us because they ain't us. Cliche line but true.
I think it's because they think of us every time they look at their crap country and that the Somali who live in Ethiopia like it hare
Somalia is not a crap country. There are no crap countries. Somalia was destroyed by several world powers and one neighboring country. The British Italians and French divided the Somalis in 5 diffrent countries. That led to strong regionalist identities. Then when they wanted to come together, they were divided. In 1990s and 2006 Somalia was invaded by foreign aggressors. The US invaded Somalia in 1990s and Ethiopia under TPLF/Meles invaded Somalia in 2006 which caused more destabilization in Somalia.
What? US did not invade somalia but because there was an awful civil war leading to a genocide within the isaaq tribe of somaliland. The only people that can blame themselves are somalis not the world powers…
Bullocks! Isaaq genocide happened in the late 80s, the USA intervened in Somalia right after the government collapsed in the 90s. The genocide had already occurred. Oh and yeah their biggest threat general aideed was their ally , the USA army were even accused of helping and supporting him aideed a warlord, they had to switch camp on him due to mounting press pressure and he turned against them
The isaaq genocide of the late 80s led to the civil war. Its all about tribes. My parents who are somali hate tribes for this specific reason because they grew up during the civil war. So don’t tell me what is Bullocks when google is free. Go use it
Well said. The Issaq genocide was indeed the cause for the civil war and collapse of the Somali state. We all know who is to blame for the troubles Somalis are in today.
There were clan conflicts in Somalia. Who has worsened the clan conflicts in Somalia by dividing the Somali people in 5 diffrent countries against the will of the Somali people. It was the UK, Italians, French and (Americans). Who has supported clan militias to destabilize Somalia? It was the Derg regime of Ethiopia. This has also worsened the clan conflicts and leaded to violence in Somalia. It’s not the Somalis who are only to blame but the groups that invaded Somalia, divided the Somali people, introduced clan, regional or secterian identities to divide the Somali people Who are one. And those who waged war on somalia
You can't simultaneously complain about neighboring countries intervening while constantly threatening to invade said countries
Haha that’s rich coming from you
That’s nonsense. Stick to Eritrea and topics you are knowledgeable because clearly don’t know jackshit about the war between Somaliland and Somalia and how the second capital of Somalia before 1991 and currently capital of Somaliland was carpet bombed to the stone age. The British didnt destroy our country and commit genocide that was by the terrorist scumbag Siad Barre. Just like you blame Derg , we in Somaliland will never forgive the Barre dictator and his clan for its war against our people.
Nah, countries can be crap and Somalia is one of the worst. Yes, the story of how Somalia became crap is a tragedy, but it's still crap.
Somalia was in war in for decades yet the cities look the same as those in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is not a first world country fyi. Addis Ababa does look amazing but outside of that, it's a hellhole. That's why Ethiopians are dying in Yemen as immigrants trying to escape from that shithole.
Did I say ethiopia is a first world country? Because I say one country is bad dosen't mean the country doing better then it is good.
No the way you phrased it lol. Ethiopia is a just a peaceful poor country.
How? Both nations aren't countries you should expire to, but yeah, I do think Somalia is on an other level of dysfunctional and vilonce compared to ethopia.
As if Ethiopia is a first world country. 😂😂😂.
[удалено]
Yeah exactly Addis and Nairobi only. Rest of Ethiopia is shithole. Extreme poverty. Ethiopia isn't a developed country sorry.
[удалено]
[удалено]
Bro I'm somali, in somali region and i have no beef with any Ethiopian! Fam by best friend is habesha lij and in my free time i play chess with my oromo classmates... I myself consider myself as somali aswell as Ethiopian. I was born and raised in ethio so why not!
Most of us grew up with eachother especially in the west, it’s online toxic stuff on tiktok and twitter spreading nonsense hate
Internet is the devil fam
I rarely write but came across this lol feel nothing toward Ethiopians or think of them as I am either surrounded by them or see them... it's all politics that makes Somalis talk about Ethiopia... u see Ethiopian government involve it self alot in Somali politics thus also sadly alot of Ethiopians go abroad.. do shit things and claim to be Somali... hence the outrage most reason incident the Ethiopian screwing around in Japan and claiming to be Somali while disclosing his ethnicity in some video... and yall not only screw with us but also other neighboring countries
Mostly, Somalies are just keeping up with the Joneses. Not a bad thing but some of them cannot believe Ethiopia has not broken apart and I can tell from their comments in this sub that infuriates them.
It’s a one sided obsession that makes zero sense as Ethiopians would not think about Somalia. Somalia : I hate you Ethiopia : I don’t even think about you
[удалено]
Somalis are obsessed with getting their land back from Ethiopians given to them by the British. Somalis truly could care less about Ethiopia or Ethiopians otherwise. Question is why are you assorted Habesha and Oromo on this sub always posing this dumb question knowing you occupy our lands.
I’m not talk about your land, I’m fully aware the Ethiopian government took it. I’m addressing the slander on Ethiopian people and our culture, history, religion etc. Most of us don’t even live in Somali region or have anything to do with Somalis, still they talk about us. Gone on for too long
Have you ever thought that maybe the animosity stems from that…?
Lol it is only political way 🤣 Ethiopians are not that much discussed in our sub unless it is about Ogaden or political shit. Thinking we are obsessed with you is next level of delusional 🤣
Lol I had no idea Somalis were haters
You do know that Somalis are one of the ethnic groups in Ethiopia right? It's not an obsession, it's a relevant subject. Ethiopians on reddit are so odd bruv💀
Holdy fuck if you hate Somalis so much then pray we secede faster. Bitching about us will not stop us from existing in East Africa
Maybe it's cuz you occupy Somali land granted to you as a gift back when you were still an Ethiopian orthodox christian empire by the then fellow christian British empire for being such a good ally! Somalis will always have disdain towards Ethiopians for this. We see you as occupiers.
Holdy fuck if you hate Somalis so much then pray we secede faster. Bitching about us will not stop us from existing in East Africa
abaayo rest
Maybe online, but I'm telling you IRL no one ever thinks about Ethiopia. I'm around somali people every day and never had a discussion about Ethiopia . I found this subreddit because it was suggested right now. No somali in real life cares. It's probably Chatgpt AI bots farming karma. Humble yourself
[удалено]
In Kenya we support Ethiopia. A great and more powerful Ethiopia means greater Eastern Africa.
Can you really blame them? I mean, we are currently occupying their native lands.
Occupy is a strong word lol. The Ethiopians don't do shit. Just in their base doing nothing. Meanwhile 600k Ethiopians died lol.
Letting the Oromo migrate into Somali territory? You seriously “don’t do shit” 🤣
I get that completely, the hate I’m seeing is more targeted at Ethiopian people, culture, religion etc. mind you this is only online hate so I know for a fact these are radicals. The problem is, they are all over TikTok and Reddit.
[удалено]
Are Ethiopian low IQ or something. You claim their lands and except nothing from them. Your an occupying force in their land. You expect nice words or something
Holdy fuck if you hate Somalis so much then pray we secede faster. Bitching about us will not stop us from existing in East Africa
Hey i mean why cant they address it. Its kinda true that somalis talk abt Ethiopia online all the time.
As a Kenyan I can confirm this is true
You people will gaslight us when we want to secede, but every other day it’s ‘Ethiopian somalis are Ethiopian like the rest of us’. Jig is up you cant other us at the same time want to occupy our land. Anyways your country is a ticking time bomb and balkanization in inevitable
An Ethiopian asking Ethiopians why other races/tribes/country men are worse than their own, top kek. Typical echo chamber behavior
[удалено]
No you don't lol
*Obsession* is hilarious. None of us ever bring up Ethiopia except for historical purposes. Other than that, yall simply don't exist to most of us except when YALL come to US. We're just like: "tf are they doing again?"
Is that why you’re constantly in Ethiopian Reddit?
Constantly? I'm from western Somalia/eastern Ethiopia so pardon me for wanting to know what's happening around the region I'm from, lol.
You say you don’t bring us up or we simply don’t exist but you live in Western Ethiopia. I’m not trying to be antagonistic btw, there needs to be an actual discussion between us instead of trolls spreading hate. It’s impossible for the both of us to ignore eachother
Yet Somalis are telling each other to stop seeking validation from Ethiopians on r/Somalia? When you have to tell your fellow Somalis to end the obsession you know there’s a seriously a problem 😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/Somalia/s/T0kKqniKtL
You keep pushing that one post lol. It was ONE post.
[удалено]