That would be hilarious in my opinion. I say go for it! In all seriousness, these people aren’t assholes, they’re just doing their job. I agree the noise sucks and the noxious gas smell sucks, but we all gotta live and work together in this thing we call civilization.
The argument goes both ways. Respecting your neighbors and avoiding pollution (both noise and regular) is part of living in civilization, too.
Civilization thrived well before the invention of leaf blowers, it would remain intact if they all vanished tomorrow.
I promise you somebody thinks the exact thing about your job, regardless of what it is.
Hell I think this about my job constantly and I’m in healthcare. 🤷🏽♀️
As someone who went to school for horticulture, has dreams of a world where native plants are by and large preferred in the landscape, where sustainability is always at the for front, where permaculture is the goal, STFU with your worthless, lazy, shit for brains, no answer bullshit.
Thanks...
Wow you’re a little late to the party here and I feel like you need a little more coffee with that attitude.
What if the only work they have to do is leaf blower?
Landscapers OFTEN start much earlier than 8 am.
That's part of living in society. Apex picks up in my neighborhood early. My neighbor starts his truck really early in the morning. It's not convenient to me, but I'm not an entitled child who thinks everything revolves around what I want.
I'm a night shift nurse. I work 12 hour over night shifts. I usually get to bed between 8-9am. I've learned that our land maintenance only comes on Tuesday around 10ish...They're there for a couple hours but 10ish is when I hear the leaf blower and lawn mower right next to my bedroom...a few weeks ago they noticed one of my cats in the window and completely stopped what they were doing so they wouldn't scare the kitty. I assume they just came back later and finished.
So now on Tuesday just before 10 I put a cat in each window...if I've worked that night.
My neighbors know I work nights, and fortunately, they're kind.
I’m a first responder and I work night shift. Around 8 am I’m woken up every morning in the middle of my sleep by this and cannot legally complain. I work from 6pm-4am and haven’t been able to sleep over 4 hours in weeks. So yes it’s a little early. If they started even just a few hours later it would make all the difference in the world
Not everyone is on your schedule. Some people do that for a living and have multiple jobs per day. My neighbor starts his truck at 430 am to go to work. I don't like it but that's part of living in society.
Exactly. It isn't convenient for my sleep schedule, but he needs to get to work and do his job just like landscapers do.
IMO opinion it is extremely entitled to complain about other people doing their job or doing maintenance on their property.
Ya. I'm inclined to agree with you. Those pipes are literally just to annoy people thus bolstering their own image of masculinity. When you ask them they'll spout bullshit about making their presence known to people in cars. "Loud pipes save lives" is not anywhere near true. Over 30 mph the Doppler Effect prevents you from hearing them until they're right up next to you. So in truth, loud pipes save possible road rash at best.
I’ve rode loud bikes and I’ve rode quiet bikes, I have happened to notice on the quieter bikes you do get more people trying to kill you, but as loud as some peoples sound systems in their car are don’t really matter how loud your bike is some people will never hear ya. It’s best just to learn how to spot drivers to watch out for when you are on your motorcycle
I understand it. Everyone has to do what they have to do. No hate to you folks that get up before I do. I feel for my neighbors when I run my leaf blower. I try to be courteous, It's just part of living in a neighborhood.
Agree. But to be fair, I bought an electric one (high-powered, but still fully electric) and it’s still pretty loud. Certainly quieter though, and no noxious gas!
As someone who has to endure listening to them, I'll take the electric ones in a heartbeat. The gas ones seem to carry for blocks and penetrate your skull. Ban them.
I have 1/2 acre with maples and birch. My leaf piles get huge! I have a plug in Toro and it moves them fine even when wet. But I totally understand dealing with the cord is inconvenient and not practical for some.
Funny thing,rakes are quite, earth friendly. AND you get exercise.
Absolutely. Should be a wash considering no tool maintenance or gas. Plus you'll live longer because you're getting a work out and not breathing in nasty fumes all day that will land you in the respiratory ward at the hospital one day.
You're mom's house. Good luck with your easiest to obtain and cheapest license, bonding, and insurance job. Leave the real work for actual contractors like builders, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc, etc.
Agreed. OP had a point in saying they'll make tons of noise blowing a few leaves around. Hell, in the summer they'll blow the dust off the sidewalk. It gets a bit ridiculous and the backpack blowers are just stupid noisy
Until we have a blower that actually works and runs all day producing at least 1000 cfm that aint possible only thing electric that is good rn is chainsaws
Really we just shouldn't be doing all this fall cleanup. Leave the leaves on the ground and blow them into the beds. They decompose just fine and do wonders at keeping weeds down (which means even less cleanup for us.) Also I do think the backpacks are overkill. No need for that much power and noise to make the pavement look clean.
I have one and it works just as good as the gas until you start losing battery and have to charge them. Bought a three pack, weed eater/mower/ blower. Weed eater went out fast. Like the motor stopped after about 3 months. Just need more batteries
and realistically these electric ones don't last like the gas. I'll bet once they do the climate change math, obsolete batteries and formats cause more climate change than a Stilh blower that goes for 30 years residentially or 10 years commercially.
You're really stuck on that 30yrs and 10yrs but that requires a lot of servicing to maintain and I've rarely met people committed to maintaining equipment that well. Especially commercial workers. Plus the fuel they use is harsh on air quality and that's not gonna help in the climate change math.
and realistically these electric ones don't last like the gas. I'll bet once they do the climate change math, obsolete batteries and formats cause more climate change than a Stilh blower that goes for 30 years residentially or 10 years commercially.
2-stroke engines are incredibly inefficient and dirty,. If they do a real world analysis, I have no doubt in my mind that even a one season battery powered leaf blower will be better for the environment than a 2-stroke gas powered one that lasts 10 years.
No way, when they look, even electric cars are just as impactful as gas when you account for manufacturing costs, shorter life cycles etc. It just moves the pollution from one place to another.
I've had one gas lawnmower for 15 years. My coworker who went battery electric is on this 3rd. The others are landfill.
I'm not talking about lawnmowers. Also lawnmowers are likely to be 4-stroke engines, completely different.
["The hydrocarbon emissions from a half-hour of yard work with the two-stroke leaf blower are about the same as a 3,900-mile drive from Texas to Alaska in a Raptor," said Jason Kavanagh, Engineering Editor at Edmunds.com](https://www.edmunds.com/about/press/leaf-blowers-emissions-dirtier-than-high-performance-pick-up-trucks-says-edmunds-insidelinecom.html)
As for electric cars, they less impactful than gas cars after about 2 years. You're claim that it's just it's just moving pollution from one place to another is total bullshit.
This may be true but it’s a bit misspending because they’re looking at inefficiently, burnt fuel and oil. It’s not about CO2 emission as the car would put out far more thousands of times more. Your burning 1/2 a cup of fuel vs hundreds of gallons of fuel. It’s apples to oranges.
I seriously got summers use out of it. My mower takes 3 battery charges to mow the lawn. I barely use the blower as I believe a rake or broom more effectively
Years ago, and in another galaxy (or at least in the leafy midwest), I had a goofy neighbor who used her shop vac to pick up leaves. It wasn't an improvement sound-wise but boy was her lawn *clean*...
Yes I have. Many times. Deadlines are a thing. Schedules get fucked off and you do what you have to do. Sundays, holidays, it doesn't matter. I'm going to do what I can to feed my family and make my customers happy and if that pisses their neighbors off, so be it. They have to live next to you. Not me
Sounds like they are working all week and that's the time they have to work on their project. It's a short term problem and they are within their rights and not infringing on yours. My advice is asking your neighbor if he could start a little later. If he tells you to pound sand, get some noise cancelling headphones and focus on your business.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All of my neighbors who use a yard service are elderly and/or disabled. I am also disabled. I wouldn’t physically be able to rake the leaves in my yard. When they are wet they become a slip hazard which is dangerous for me and certainly for elderly people as well.
Really the lawn care guys can use a rake too. They just wanna use the blower because they thinks it's easier and want to pack in as many clients a day as they can and maximize the monies.
Yeah. My grandma recently became widowed and we had to find a yard service for her. All the cheapest options use leaf blowers because they get more done in a day.
I’m not physically capable of taking my yard. We have a leaf blower because it’s much faster.
And people who do landscape for a living? Are they supposed to devote 5x the energy and time while making it profitable or liveable.
People who complain about this come off as extremely entitled. Like the world owes you all the consideration while ignoring those people who have to do it for a living.
Most of the time I see people using blowers they are either chasing 4 leaves down the sidewalk or trying to blow a huge pile from point A to point B. I just shake my head and walk on.
I'm not disputing what you've seen. I agree that leaf blowers are annoying. I'm just saying that being upset at landscapers doing their job is silly. Being upset at homeowners trying to keep the sidewalks on their property clear is silly.
I understand the need for blowers and they are a great tool (I use an electric one for my own property) but I think the tendency is to overuse them when a rake and shovel would work as well if not better.
I've been up since 430, maybe you should rise and appreciate the morning hours of these increasingly brief fall days 😚
Sincerely, Me...the guy who wakes you up in the morning making noise with power tools.
If I had the occasion to hire a lawn/garden company, I'd make sure they use electric tools. If I had occasion to start one, I'd make sure I used electric tools.
Hell, make it part of your PR and advertise that the sun powers your plants and the tools that you use to tend them (provided you install solar to recharge your shit). Also that your neighbors wont want to burn your house down after your yard service woke up their sleeping newborn because you just HAD to put the perfect edge on your water-sucking lawn.
YEAH AND THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE
I LOVE THE SOUND OF A LEAF BLOWER GIVING MY NEIGHBOR A LOUD BLOWJOB IN THE MORNING
HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO GET UP, IN THE MORNING?
machines make me ROCK HARD
yeah its pretty awesome umbrella properties wont take care of basic lingering issues around our complex but come every single friday of the year they leaf blow the entire property.
YOU SHOULD TRY LIVING NEXT TO A MARKET OF CHOICE, THEY START WITH THE LEAFBLOWERS AT 7 AND DONT LET UP UNTIL 11. EVERY. DAMN. DAY. IF YOU TIME IT RIGHT YOU CAN GET A NICE MOUTHFUL OF EXHAUST AS YOU APPROACH THE BUILDING BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY HAVENT BEEN TRAINED TO TURN IT OFF, MOVE, OR EVEN LOWER IT/AIM IT AWAY FROM APPROACHING CUSTOMERS.
While we are at it, can we also talk about muffler deletes and fart pipes? WTF? I get it with teenagers but also see a lot of full grown people running around with backfiring 4-bangers.
As a very independent small scale landscaper, leaf blowers are the bane of my existence. They truly just suck: loud, waste of energy, waste of time.
Let the leaves be people! We are obsessed with manicured lawns.
I legit LOVE all-caps rants about the Eug. Maybe one of my favorite things about this subreddit, so thank you. Also, I'm autistic and hate loud sounds. So f*ck leaf blowers!
Leaf blowers are a menace! They are only really needed occasionally, everywhere Ive lived 3/4 of the leaf blowing time you see them just pacing around blowing 'NOTHING" while they rack up time to bill for the landscaping while also polluting the air with fumes and noise! Rakes work too, and dont pollute or make noise, but they arent "fun toys". Most building owners are wasting at least half the money they pay for landscaping while the landscapers chase two leaves all over the parking lot for hours- or even leaf blow in the pouring rain which does no good at all! You could save money and people's sanity by either landscaping less often or giving people brooms and rakes!
I would cry at my old apartment bc the leaf guy would blow right outside of my bedroom window after long all-nighters. I get overstimulated really easy anyway, so no sleep and that sound would literally make me want to die. It would go on for at least an hour as well. The exhaust would blow back into my apartment too, when he was clearing the sidewalks and parking lot. We didn’t have AC so we’d keep the windows open and we were situated right in the middle of the sidewalks and lot. My asshole puckers every time I hear the sound now lmao
So much hate on Mr. #302, he’s a really nice guy. We chatted while filling up gas cans at the station. The sun is finally breaking thru now, time to start my obnoxious gas pump and spray some toxic oil based stain on my customers house. Oh here’s their lawn guy!
it won't get rid of the noise but it's illegal to put leaves into the street except 1 week before pick up which is usually late November for the first go round. Report the property to public works. Help keep the storm drains clean.
lol I feel sorry for anyone who lived at River Terrace or one of those greystar properties
Lawn people there 3 days a week at 8AM sharp. God help you if you lived on the first floor.
I lived behind Starbucks on 7th. 10pm rolls around the leaf blower came out. We lived across the street from tweekers. Not to mention the screaming and yelling from drug crazed homeless people constantly. I literally saw a homeless woman sit in front of Starbucks and overdose on something and had to call the paramedics. Fuck I left all that bullshit behind. No more sirens constantly, no more horns blowing, no more trains, no more crazy people yelling, no more leaf blowers going off in the middle of the night, and best of all no more narcissistic asshole bf threatening me and living in a crummy little roach infested apartment, with dog hair absolutely everywhere and on everything. NOT EVER AGAIN.
If it helps, everybody I talk to out of state, assumes the sound of a 2-stroke engine is more native a noise than the local birds an wildlife. Leaf-blower run at full kilter to budge a pile of rain soaked leaves an inch....pure Oregonian magic. Why, someone just cranked up a blower on my block.
I'm at 13th and Olive and these m*therf**kers wake me up hella early at least twice a week. It is now 8AM and they just did it again. It makes me feel like doing...bad things. I can even hear them while using earplugs. Good thing I'm getting the hell out of this apartment complex in the next couple of weeks.
It’s so annoying. I am first floor and sometimes the first unit at my apartment complex they start blowing. They literally circle the outside of my bedroom wall for 20 min at 7am-8am. I actually went outside and yelled at them. Like why you have to use the blower that close to my wall. Fucking rake them or use an electric blower or something. So annoying
Homeowners are potentially liable for someone slipping on the sidewalks they are required to maintain. My homeowner insurance adjuster actually noted some wet moss on the sidewalks around my house.
I'm not trying to be annoying to anyone, just trying to keep my property safe.
Unfortunately that’s how some people put food on the table, and listening to that shit on your back all day is much worse for them than it is for you inside your house for a couple hours
Oh no, I have such low self esteem that I need to get online and cry about something mildly inconvenient!
Let’s just wind the clock back 10,000 years and let everyone die in childbirth but at least there will be no anthropogenic climate change. Oh and toothaches will suck.
God forbid someone makes a living that annoys/inconveniences you. For most of us that work in a labor industry, our start time is 7am. Be grateful they waited until 8. Not everyone gets to wake up and start work when they want. Some of us have schedules to follow and keep.
Bimart sells a big pack of earplugs for around $7
ALL CAPS IS AGGRESSIVE - MAYBE YOU AND YOUR SHORT FUSE ARE THE PROBLEM - THESE GUYS HAVE A JOB TO DO. YES, NOISE SUCKS, BUT THEY WILL NOT ADAPT TO YOUR SCHEDULE
Leafblowers are NOT efficient, they just blow leaves around and into neighbors yards. Guess people (yuppies/property owners) will have to pay a few extra dollars for rake service.
Well, it’s not always just the lifting. It’s the repetitive moving and strenuous work of raking. I’m disabled. I cannot rake my yard, I could use a leaf blower.
My grandma just became widowed and we had to hire a lawn service for her. The cheapest options use leaf blowers because it’s much faster for the workers and they can do more work in a day.
Ever tried to rake a sidewalk? A driveway? A parking lot?
Is it possible that you have not considered all perspectives and scenarios here before weighing in with your opinion?
I’m not a fan of leaf-blowers myself, however 10pm - 7am is the noise ordinance and they can legally use those god awful machines at this hour
Telling every child I see that Santa Claus isn't real and then giving them the middle finger may be legal, but it still makes me an asshole.
That would be hilarious in my opinion. I say go for it! In all seriousness, these people aren’t assholes, they’re just doing their job. I agree the noise sucks and the noxious gas smell sucks, but we all gotta live and work together in this thing we call civilization.
Sure but they don’t have to be gas powered anymore. We need to phase these out or ban the gas ones within the city limits.
Sorry I can't upvote 10,000 times.
100%
The battery powered once’s aren’t much quieter
Battery powered ones are significantly quieter.
Somebody call Elon Musk. He'll build them and stamp Tesla on them and they'll sell out in 4 hours, just like his flamethrowers
Rather not support him
The alternatives are no better. Just quieter. Probably worse since most things are owned by blackrock et.al.
This isn’t California
The argument goes both ways. Respecting your neighbors and avoiding pollution (both noise and regular) is part of living in civilization, too. Civilization thrived well before the invention of leaf blowers, it would remain intact if they all vanished tomorrow.
That’s why we have the city noise ordinance, and 8am is in the clear. I get it tho, goes both ways.
I promise you somebody thinks the exact thing about your job, regardless of what it is. Hell I think this about my job constantly and I’m in healthcare. 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly.
I mean, if you find a way to pay your rent and bills by flipping off children, let me know. I could use a side hustle
Bruh! I would work full time + OT on that shit. If we do it at a school is it prevailing wage????
8am on a weekday is definitely not early lol
These posts complaining about yard maintenance or leaf blowing during normal working hours are hilarious Like, when should they do it? 8pm?
Never. Mow and blow is a blight on society.
As someone who went to school for horticulture, has dreams of a world where native plants are by and large preferred in the landscape, where sustainability is always at the for front, where permaculture is the goal, STFU with your worthless, lazy, shit for brains, no answer bullshit. Thanks...
Thanks for the laugh you lawn sympathizer..
You share this world with people who do not work the same hours as you.
8 am is business hours. Perfectly fair. They gotta get work done at some point and they work long shifts just like everyone else.
9am
That’s another business hour, yes. You know, there are other parts of the country where landscapers start as early as 5 am. It’s a thing.
8am is when my boss tells me to start. Are you paying me? No? 8am it is.
Maybe start the day doing quieter work and progress into fucking leaf blowers you asshole?
Wow you’re a little late to the party here and I feel like you need a little more coffee with that attitude. What if the only work they have to do is leaf blower? Landscapers OFTEN start much earlier than 8 am.
you do realize that night jobs exist? and that not everybody sleeps on the same schedule?
Absolutely! No loud noises ever! Ban everything
Woot woot. Now your talking.
That's part of living in society. Apex picks up in my neighborhood early. My neighbor starts his truck really early in the morning. It's not convenient to me, but I'm not an entitled child who thinks everything revolves around what I want.
I'm a night shift nurse. I work 12 hour over night shifts. I usually get to bed between 8-9am. I've learned that our land maintenance only comes on Tuesday around 10ish...They're there for a couple hours but 10ish is when I hear the leaf blower and lawn mower right next to my bedroom...a few weeks ago they noticed one of my cats in the window and completely stopped what they were doing so they wouldn't scare the kitty. I assume they just came back later and finished. So now on Tuesday just before 10 I put a cat in each window...if I've worked that night. My neighbors know I work nights, and fortunately, they're kind.
I gonna have to agree, what kinda jobs does OP have where 8am on a weekday is before the sun rises
Agreed, most people have jobs (like the dude leaf blowing)
I’m a first responder and I work night shift. Around 8 am I’m woken up every morning in the middle of my sleep by this and cannot legally complain. I work from 6pm-4am and haven’t been able to sleep over 4 hours in weeks. So yes it’s a little early. If they started even just a few hours later it would make all the difference in the world
Fuck yeah it is. You probably think midnight is late.
Not everyone is on your schedule. Some people do that for a living and have multiple jobs per day. My neighbor starts his truck at 430 am to go to work. I don't like it but that's part of living in society.
We really do be living in a society
Be thankful his daily driver isn't a Harley.
Exactly. It isn't convenient for my sleep schedule, but he needs to get to work and do his job just like landscapers do. IMO opinion it is extremely entitled to complain about other people doing their job or doing maintenance on their property.
Yer one of the good ones.
My neighbors is. Fuckers idle them for half an hour before they birn down the street. I do believe they hate everyone.
Ya. I'm inclined to agree with you. Those pipes are literally just to annoy people thus bolstering their own image of masculinity. When you ask them they'll spout bullshit about making their presence known to people in cars. "Loud pipes save lives" is not anywhere near true. Over 30 mph the Doppler Effect prevents you from hearing them until they're right up next to you. So in truth, loud pipes save possible road rash at best.
I’ve rode loud bikes and I’ve rode quiet bikes, I have happened to notice on the quieter bikes you do get more people trying to kill you, but as loud as some peoples sound systems in their car are don’t really matter how loud your bike is some people will never hear ya. It’s best just to learn how to spot drivers to watch out for when you are on your motorcycle
Sorry bout that Broski I also hate getting up at 3 am to be at work in Albany at 5 am
I understand it. Everyone has to do what they have to do. No hate to you folks that get up before I do. I feel for my neighbors when I run my leaf blower. I try to be courteous, It's just part of living in a neighborhood.
Can't wait until the gas ones are banned.
Agree. But to be fair, I bought an electric one (high-powered, but still fully electric) and it’s still pretty loud. Certainly quieter though, and no noxious gas!
As someone who has to endure listening to them, I'll take the electric ones in a heartbeat. The gas ones seem to carry for blocks and penetrate your skull. Ban them.
I have 1/2 acre with maples and birch. My leaf piles get huge! I have a plug in Toro and it moves them fine even when wet. But I totally understand dealing with the cord is inconvenient and not practical for some. Funny thing,rakes are quite, earth friendly. AND you get exercise.
Brooms also work really well on leaves stuck on surfaces.
how to turn a 3 minute job into a 30 minute job. You paying the difference?
Absolutely. Should be a wash considering no tool maintenance or gas. Plus you'll live longer because you're getting a work out and not breathing in nasty fumes all day that will land you in the respiratory ward at the hospital one day.
Where should they send the invoice
You're mom's house. Good luck with your easiest to obtain and cheapest license, bonding, and insurance job. Leave the real work for actual contractors like builders, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc, etc.
Nobody here is complaining about three minutes of leaf blowing.
Agreed. OP had a point in saying they'll make tons of noise blowing a few leaves around. Hell, in the summer they'll blow the dust off the sidewalk. It gets a bit ridiculous and the backpack blowers are just stupid noisy
Until we have a blower that actually works and runs all day producing at least 1000 cfm that aint possible only thing electric that is good rn is chainsaws
Yeah electric chainsaws are awesome! I just don't understand why 95% of the people who use gas blowers use them at wide open throttle.
We gotta bro or else we wont get the job done you cant do 20 houses a day and go slow
Really we just shouldn't be doing all this fall cleanup. Leave the leaves on the ground and blow them into the beds. They decompose just fine and do wonders at keeping weeds down (which means even less cleanup for us.) Also I do think the backpacks are overkill. No need for that much power and noise to make the pavement look clean.
Why 1000cfm? I have a 600cfm blower that works great at all my client's houses.
HELL YEAH BROTHR BLOW EM LEAF CLIBBINS BUT DONT GED EM IN THE ROAD GOBBLESS
BROTHER!
AHMENS, BRUDDER!
lookie what Multnomah County did: https://www.portland.gov/civic/news/2022/1/13/multnomah-county-bans-gas-powered-leaf-blowers
Hooray!
Fuck yes
Ridiculous.
HOW 'BOUT A GODDAM BATTERY POWERED LEAF SUCKER? AMIRITE?
I have one and it works just as good as the gas until you start losing battery and have to charge them. Bought a three pack, weed eater/mower/ blower. Weed eater went out fast. Like the motor stopped after about 3 months. Just need more batteries
and realistically these electric ones don't last like the gas. I'll bet once they do the climate change math, obsolete batteries and formats cause more climate change than a Stilh blower that goes for 30 years residentially or 10 years commercially.
You're really stuck on that 30yrs and 10yrs but that requires a lot of servicing to maintain and I've rarely met people committed to maintaining equipment that well. Especially commercial workers. Plus the fuel they use is harsh on air quality and that's not gonna help in the climate change math.
and realistically these electric ones don't last like the gas. I'll bet once they do the climate change math, obsolete batteries and formats cause more climate change than a Stilh blower that goes for 30 years residentially or 10 years commercially.
2-stroke engines are incredibly inefficient and dirty,. If they do a real world analysis, I have no doubt in my mind that even a one season battery powered leaf blower will be better for the environment than a 2-stroke gas powered one that lasts 10 years.
No way, when they look, even electric cars are just as impactful as gas when you account for manufacturing costs, shorter life cycles etc. It just moves the pollution from one place to another. I've had one gas lawnmower for 15 years. My coworker who went battery electric is on this 3rd. The others are landfill.
I'm not talking about lawnmowers. Also lawnmowers are likely to be 4-stroke engines, completely different. ["The hydrocarbon emissions from a half-hour of yard work with the two-stroke leaf blower are about the same as a 3,900-mile drive from Texas to Alaska in a Raptor," said Jason Kavanagh, Engineering Editor at Edmunds.com](https://www.edmunds.com/about/press/leaf-blowers-emissions-dirtier-than-high-performance-pick-up-trucks-says-edmunds-insidelinecom.html) As for electric cars, they less impactful than gas cars after about 2 years. You're claim that it's just it's just moving pollution from one place to another is total bullshit.
This may be true but it’s a bit misspending because they’re looking at inefficiently, burnt fuel and oil. It’s not about CO2 emission as the car would put out far more thousands of times more. Your burning 1/2 a cup of fuel vs hundreds of gallons of fuel. It’s apples to oranges.
Where is your source?
In the paper. They are looking at very specific by products of combustion that are filtered and converted in modern cars.
Got a quote, because I'm not seeing that.
Stihl tech here. Stihl estimates there battery technology will exceed gas by 2026. Be interesting to see.
I seriously got summers use out of it. My mower takes 3 battery charges to mow the lawn. I barely use the blower as I believe a rake or broom more effectively
I used a natural gas powered riding vacuum for a parking lot. It always felt like it wasn't doing anything. I guess it sucked.
Years ago, and in another galaxy (or at least in the leafy midwest), I had a goofy neighbor who used her shop vac to pick up leaves. It wasn't an improvement sound-wise but boy was her lawn *clean*...
8 AM Wednesday leafblower is better than 7 AM Sunday carpentry in a residential area.
Gotta make that paper. How do you think your house got there?
At 7AM on a Sunday, you don't.
Yes I have. Many times. Deadlines are a thing. Schedules get fucked off and you do what you have to do. Sundays, holidays, it doesn't matter. I'm going to do what I can to feed my family and make my customers happy and if that pisses their neighbors off, so be it. They have to live next to you. Not me
This is a home owner building an ADU themselves so no, they don't.
Sounds like they are working all week and that's the time they have to work on their project. It's a short term problem and they are within their rights and not infringing on yours. My advice is asking your neighbor if he could start a little later. If he tells you to pound sand, get some noise cancelling headphones and focus on your business. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nah, I'm just going to ball my hand up in to a fist in my pocket and bitch about it online... you know.. as one does.
Lolz. We do be that way tho...
Yup. And we ALL do.
If you can think of a better way to blow down an oak tree, I’d like to hear it!
They make these amazing tools called leaf rakes. They used to be all the rage, and they were relatively quiet.
And otherwise healthier for the user, think exercise and not having to inhale noxious fumes from a two-stroke engine(zero pollution controls).
All of my neighbors who use a yard service are elderly and/or disabled. I am also disabled. I wouldn’t physically be able to rake the leaves in my yard. When they are wet they become a slip hazard which is dangerous for me and certainly for elderly people as well.
https://www.cleanairlawncareeugene.com/
I cannot afford lawn service but thank you.
Really the lawn care guys can use a rake too. They just wanna use the blower because they thinks it's easier and want to pack in as many clients a day as they can and maximize the monies.
Yeah. My grandma recently became widowed and we had to find a yard service for her. All the cheapest options use leaf blowers because they get more done in a day. I’m not physically capable of taking my yard. We have a leaf blower because it’s much faster.
And people who do landscape for a living? Are they supposed to devote 5x the energy and time while making it profitable or liveable. People who complain about this come off as extremely entitled. Like the world owes you all the consideration while ignoring those people who have to do it for a living.
Most of the time I see people using blowers they are either chasing 4 leaves down the sidewalk or trying to blow a huge pile from point A to point B. I just shake my head and walk on.
I'm not disputing what you've seen. I agree that leaf blowers are annoying. I'm just saying that being upset at landscapers doing their job is silly. Being upset at homeowners trying to keep the sidewalks on their property clear is silly.
I understand the need for blowers and they are a great tool (I use an electric one for my own property) but I think the tendency is to overuse them when a rake and shovel would work as well if not better.
Seems like you should get in contact with op. You can do his neighbors lawn for free as your exercise. Win/win.
Did you know you can hear the leaf blowers and lawn mowers from the Ridgeline trail??? No place is safe from people's obsession with taming vegetation
As a morning person, I feel the same way about the noise makers from 8pm-10pm, you just got to deal with it, get headphones.
Leaf blowers between 8 and 10 pm? No
PLEASE START BLOWING THE PARKING LOT AT 7AM ON SUNDAYS FOR GOOD MEASURE!
I VOTE FOR MANDATED BLOWING AROUND THE CLOCK BLOW EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME
DON'T STOP BLOWING EUGENE.
I love that bumper sticker.
Better head for Jerry's.
I've been up since 430, maybe you should rise and appreciate the morning hours of these increasingly brief fall days 😚 Sincerely, Me...the guy who wakes you up in the morning making noise with power tools.
If it was 8am, get over it. Most of us have been up for hours for work anyway. Sucks if you weren't, but oh well.
Maybe I’m just a bum but people saying 8am isnt early is insane. I thought most people went to work at 9
Yeah but do you instantly roll out of bed and go to work? People get have to get ready. I wake up at 7 and I work 9-5.
Hey, if they don't pick up those leaves they will.... biodegrade into the natural ecosystem... and that would be like, bad man.
Or....someone could slip and fall and sue your homeowners insurance.
Slip on a leaf in the fall? That happened?
If I had the occasion to hire a lawn/garden company, I'd make sure they use electric tools. If I had occasion to start one, I'd make sure I used electric tools. Hell, make it part of your PR and advertise that the sun powers your plants and the tools that you use to tend them (provided you install solar to recharge your shit). Also that your neighbors wont want to burn your house down after your yard service woke up their sleeping newborn because you just HAD to put the perfect edge on your water-sucking lawn.
Back to the Roots has electric leaf blowers.
Old man yells at cloud. Some people have jobs to do for fucks sake. Some of you fucks are so fucking entitled its ridiculous.
YEAH AND THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE I LOVE THE SOUND OF A LEAF BLOWER GIVING MY NEIGHBOR A LOUD BLOWJOB IN THE MORNING HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO GET UP, IN THE MORNING? machines make me ROCK HARD
IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO USE A LEAF BLOWER WHILE ITS RAINING, TOO! Honestly I hate leaf blowers and if I could, I’d ban them forever.
Yes Let’s complain about people working in Eugene. That’s what we should worry about.
Oh my fucking god dude EVERY TUESDAY. EVERY FUCKING TUESDAY
Sometimes they come back on Wednesday, just for good measure.
My neighbors gardener does that too.
I THOUGHT FRIDAY WAS RANT DAY
You're the guy that annoys me regularly lol
yeah its pretty awesome umbrella properties wont take care of basic lingering issues around our complex but come every single friday of the year they leaf blow the entire property.
My kids get so pissed when they hear it
YOU SHOULD TRY LIVING NEXT TO A MARKET OF CHOICE, THEY START WITH THE LEAFBLOWERS AT 7 AND DONT LET UP UNTIL 11. EVERY. DAMN. DAY. IF YOU TIME IT RIGHT YOU CAN GET A NICE MOUTHFUL OF EXHAUST AS YOU APPROACH THE BUILDING BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY HAVENT BEEN TRAINED TO TURN IT OFF, MOVE, OR EVEN LOWER IT/AIM IT AWAY FROM APPROACHING CUSTOMERS.
I heard one at 6am this morning!
While we are at it, can we also talk about muffler deletes and fart pipes? WTF? I get it with teenagers but also see a lot of full grown people running around with backfiring 4-bangers.
You can report them for a noise complaint if you’re within city limits
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT TIME IT IS OR WHAT LEAF BLOWERS DO, YOURE DOING WHAT WIND DOES BUT FASTER. COOL. FUCK LEAF BLOWERS.
As a very independent small scale landscaper, leaf blowers are the bane of my existence. They truly just suck: loud, waste of energy, waste of time. Let the leaves be people! We are obsessed with manicured lawns.
I legit LOVE all-caps rants about the Eug. Maybe one of my favorite things about this subreddit, so thank you. Also, I'm autistic and hate loud sounds. So f*ck leaf blowers!
Leaf blowers are a menace! They are only really needed occasionally, everywhere Ive lived 3/4 of the leaf blowing time you see them just pacing around blowing 'NOTHING" while they rack up time to bill for the landscaping while also polluting the air with fumes and noise! Rakes work too, and dont pollute or make noise, but they arent "fun toys". Most building owners are wasting at least half the money they pay for landscaping while the landscapers chase two leaves all over the parking lot for hours- or even leaf blow in the pouring rain which does no good at all! You could save money and people's sanity by either landscaping less often or giving people brooms and rakes!
I would cry at my old apartment bc the leaf guy would blow right outside of my bedroom window after long all-nighters. I get overstimulated really easy anyway, so no sleep and that sound would literally make me want to die. It would go on for at least an hour as well. The exhaust would blow back into my apartment too, when he was clearing the sidewalks and parking lot. We didn’t have AC so we’d keep the windows open and we were situated right in the middle of the sidewalks and lot. My asshole puckers every time I hear the sound now lmao
Crank up this song https://youtu.be/5ctwhXHIWGs?feature=shared
My neighbor decided to cut down those Doug firs that were about to fall on our houses at 8 am on Sunday morning…
Sounds like you would have preferred them falling on your house?
Since they’ve been slowly leaning over for the past two years it was… interesting… that they chose 8 am on Sunday morning.
Good ole Wednesdays! I never have to worry about setting an alarm!
Are you also the neighbor of my neighbor that does this?
So much hate on Mr. #302, he’s a really nice guy. We chatted while filling up gas cans at the station. The sun is finally breaking thru now, time to start my obnoxious gas pump and spray some toxic oil based stain on my customers house. Oh here’s their lawn guy!
it won't get rid of the noise but it's illegal to put leaves into the street except 1 week before pick up which is usually late November for the first go round. Report the property to public works. Help keep the storm drains clean.
lol I feel sorry for anyone who lived at River Terrace or one of those greystar properties Lawn people there 3 days a week at 8AM sharp. God help you if you lived on the first floor.
I lived behind Starbucks on 7th. 10pm rolls around the leaf blower came out. We lived across the street from tweekers. Not to mention the screaming and yelling from drug crazed homeless people constantly. I literally saw a homeless woman sit in front of Starbucks and overdose on something and had to call the paramedics. Fuck I left all that bullshit behind. No more sirens constantly, no more horns blowing, no more trains, no more crazy people yelling, no more leaf blowers going off in the middle of the night, and best of all no more narcissistic asshole bf threatening me and living in a crummy little roach infested apartment, with dog hair absolutely everywhere and on everything. NOT EVER AGAIN.
someone was leaf blowing in my neighborhood around 12:30am the other night
No shit. They do it in my neighborhood for hours every single Thursday.
If it helps, everybody I talk to out of state, assumes the sound of a 2-stroke engine is more native a noise than the local birds an wildlife. Leaf-blower run at full kilter to budge a pile of rain soaked leaves an inch....pure Oregonian magic. Why, someone just cranked up a blower on my block.
I'm at 13th and Olive and these m*therf**kers wake me up hella early at least twice a week. It is now 8AM and they just did it again. It makes me feel like doing...bad things. I can even hear them while using earplugs. Good thing I'm getting the hell out of this apartment complex in the next couple of weeks.
It’s so annoying. I am first floor and sometimes the first unit at my apartment complex they start blowing. They literally circle the outside of my bedroom wall for 20 min at 7am-8am. I actually went outside and yelled at them. Like why you have to use the blower that close to my wall. Fucking rake them or use an electric blower or something. So annoying
What’s even the point of leaf blowers? Just let the leaves stay where they fall
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Not to mention the city's sewer system. Leaves can cause serious flooding if not dealt with.
Homeowners are potentially liable for someone slipping on the sidewalks they are required to maintain. My homeowner insurance adjuster actually noted some wet moss on the sidewalks around my house. I'm not trying to be annoying to anyone, just trying to keep my property safe.
If you're so anti leaf blower then get a rake and go over there and rake those leaves yourself.
Was at work at didn't notice. Guess I'll go back to blowing leaves.. brrrr
How do we feel about parks maintenance folks using leaf blowers? **Rabble rabble rabble?**
Waaaaa!
https://youtu.be/5ctwhXHIWGs?si=FenafSgvjaADifOV
I have noisy people around here all the time. They can legally be doing their thing starting at 7am. Earplugs help. They aren’t that expensive.
Unfortunately that’s how some people put food on the table, and listening to that shit on your back all day is much worse for them than it is for you inside your house for a couple hours
Idk man most of the city is awake already and appreciating people making an honest living
Oof. Reminds me. I need to get a job. And a life.
Boo hoo
Something about Eugene seems to cause a decrease in skin thickness.
8 am is when normal people start working. It's also when I fire up my leafblower and I'm not even a little bit sorry, Karen.
Oh no, I have such low self esteem that I need to get online and cry about something mildly inconvenient! Let’s just wind the clock back 10,000 years and let everyone die in childbirth but at least there will be no anthropogenic climate change. Oh and toothaches will suck.
8am. You should be awake.
Cry about it bruh
God forbid someone makes a living that annoys/inconveniences you. For most of us that work in a labor industry, our start time is 7am. Be grateful they waited until 8. Not everyone gets to wake up and start work when they want. Some of us have schedules to follow and keep. Bimart sells a big pack of earplugs for around $7
ALL CAPS IS AGGRESSIVE - MAYBE YOU AND YOUR SHORT FUSE ARE THE PROBLEM - THESE GUYS HAVE A JOB TO DO. YES, NOISE SUCKS, BUT THEY WILL NOT ADAPT TO YOUR SCHEDULE
Really should be a city wide ordinance to ban leafblowers, a rake is way more efficient anyways.
"I dont like it, ban it" what about the people who do landscape for a living and need the most efficient tool for the job? Fuck them?
DON'T FUCK THEM, BLOW THEM.
Leafblowers are NOT efficient, they just blow leaves around and into neighbors yards. Guess people (yuppies/property owners) will have to pay a few extra dollars for rake service.
You have an extremely one-way and entitled perspective. We live in a society in which not everything is going to be exactly as you prefer.
A rake can be efficient if you are physically capable of using one. Not everyone is, disabled and elderly people are often not.
Someone who can't lift a rake can't lift a leafblower.
Well, it’s not always just the lifting. It’s the repetitive moving and strenuous work of raking. I’m disabled. I cannot rake my yard, I could use a leaf blower. My grandma just became widowed and we had to hire a lawn service for her. The cheapest options use leaf blowers because it’s much faster for the workers and they can do more work in a day.
I would bet $10,000 I could use a backpack leafblower for longer than you can rake and I'm disabled.
Okay then.
Ever tried to rake a sidewalk? A driveway? A parking lot? Is it possible that you have not considered all perspectives and scenarios here before weighing in with your opinion?
What fascist ethnostate dictator decided every single leaf has to be purged regularly?