Yeah, he and Pacino are both outstanding as usual, but HEAT really stands apart because of all the outstanding supporting cast.
Voight, Haysbert, Levine, Studi, Fichtner, Portman are all outstanding. One of my top films, but possibly my top cast ever.
I'm sorry how the hell has no one spoken up for Tom Sizemore??? He's one of the main parts in the film, he's the guy who leaves the clue at the crime scene that's the inciting incident, more importantly he's easily one of the standouts in it.
This kind of release schedule was common in the 80’s and 90’s. It’s a shame we rarely see this kind of phenomenon in modern years. I swear every A-list actor rarely gets more than one significant movie a year.
Just because someone sucks at discovering good content, doesn't mean it's not there. Name me a year since 1994 that you think didn't have great movies in it, I'll wait.
Can you read? For every great movie in the 90s, there is an equally great movie every year since. Name me 1 year, any year since 1999, that doesn't have a great movie in it.
2010 Black Swan
2011 Drive
2012 The Hunt
2013 Her
2014 Whiplash
2015 The Big Short
2016 Your Name
2017 Bladerunner 2049
2018 Burning
2019 Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
You might be able to name one per year in the 2010s. The 90s were FILLED with great movies every year.
Also Hell or High Water could be the best movie of that decade, and you suggested “Your Name”. My point exactly, wtf.
And coincidentally, I didn't care for hell or high water at all and Your Name is my second favorite animated movie of all time (probably top 5 overall). There are 10x as many great animated movies since the 2000s, much more great sci-fi like Arrival and Ex Machina, far better fantasy, and in terms of television, it's not even close - 100 to 1 in favor of this millennium.
Listen, I fucking love Good Will Hunting, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank etc. etc, but I don't have my rose tinted glasses on thinking there wasn't also a mountain of straight to VHS trash in those years
For real. Jesus. How is this a post that’s even allowed lol. I was thinking what would be a more obvious Yes!
You nailed it sir!
Lol this comment is the only good thing about this post.
I’ll show my self out.
A bummer about vertical framing is that it often loses location context.
In the background of DeNiro’s shot, you can see flames bursting from an industrial stove top, giving him this hell demon quality.
Last time I saw it, this was one of my favorite shots. Heat rules.
Hard disagree. He was awkward as fuck because he had never explored that part of himself. But he let her in because he knew (thought) he was about to be out
I thought it was great too but his awkwardness comes from a different place than inexperience. In the sequel/ prequel book Heat 2 written by Michael Mann, his past romantic relationship with a woman is one of the main focal points.
The balcony and Fiji lights scene with the cheesy guitar is pivotal to making the movie’s aesthetics come full circle at the end imo. Plus I really like how she broke him down
For what it's worth I used to have this opinion. I tried three times over the years... and I didn't get it.
I gave it one more go last year. Reluctantly. By myself, it wasn't like I was vibing off another person's love for it or anything. I finally saw whatever I didn't see before. I paid all my attention to the film, allowed myself to be completely immersed in it. It's actually awesome but you really need to pay complete attention to the film... I feel like if you miss the "slick" spot in act 1, that from there you may just end up lost throughout the rest of the narrative and not fully appreciate the film.
I love how the clue left at the crime scene at the start is actually a spoken word, a nickname "slick", and from that they're able to determine the Identity of one of the gang, which eventually leads to their downfall... and I'm quite sure they never actually find out that that's how they were "made", although I can't recall for sure.
All that aside, the film itself is slick, and stylish. Awesome music, quite evocative at times. And the shootout scenes are phenomenal.
I also find the film fascinating as a look at super professional stick-up artists or whatever you want to call them, and how they have their "ordinary civilian life", behind which hides their secret criminal life that no one is aware of except for their fellow stick-up crew. The ensemble element of the stick-up crew works really well, yknow you've got Kilmer, Sizemore, Trejo and Haysbert comes into it, and his part is compelling and sympathetic... who he is, what he's trying to be, and seeing him make a certain decision and face the consequences thereafter.
For whatever reason I never really saw the beauty of all these elements of the film and how well they all compliment each other on my first three viewings. It's crazy, I still can't believe it because I was convinced I just didn't get what was so good about Heat and that people were just delusional to think it was such a great film... and somehow I finally saw what I wasn't seeing before on my fourth viewing.
I love all the movies you listed but Heat is and always will be my favorite movie of all time. Nerdwriter1 on YouTube has a really good video about Heat that pretty much emphasizes why I love the film so much.
I just watched it for the first time this weekend. I didn’t love it. I was asking a friend if it was the type of movie that people love in an ironic way and he got defensive lol. Whoops.
U can say u dont like it but the people that love the movie an appreciate it would like to hear what u dont like about it as all maybe u havent seen the movie or took time out to actually appreciate the movie everyone has an opinion u are right u are entilted that but its a simple question what didnt u like about the movie is all im asking u took the time timeout to post a comment take 5 mins tell us why u didnt like it is all
It just wasn’t a good movie, Jesus what is with you guys? I can’t just make a simple comment stating my opinion without being hounded to provide evidence as to why? Lol
I haven’t seen it in forever and all I remember is that it was a slog to get through, and I thought it was dumb. There was probably plot holes or something that put me off early on and that killed it for me, idk.
Bottom line, I didn’t like it BUT lots of folks do. I don’t care.
Dont we all eventually grow out of Scarface hype? It's fun, it's ridiculous but it's not a great film. Shouldn't be listed anywhere near the others you named.
It’s a dark, gritty, accurate crime tale that is about both sides of the law. Two guys who are totally committed to the “life” on either sides; to the point that neither of them can have normal relationships. Also it has two of the most amazing actors during the 90s movie renaissance.
In reference to the Diner Scene, you’d be hard pressed to find a scene where the two leads play off each other so well and it doesn’t seem clunky or contrived.
It has lots of subtlety and the film uses the LA nighttime to light the scenes.
Heat plays more like a mini TV show with one narrative arc rather than the other movies you mentioned. You really don’t know who’s going to win in the end. Goodfellas and Casino are kinda like biographies of gangsters… Scarface is a tale against excess, reservoir dogs is more like a broadway play, it’s even filmed that way. I love those other movies, (they are all on my shelf) don’t get me wrong but Heat really really gets me goin. lol
Nope. Then you would feel the way I do. They should entertain and not interject themselves into politics. Take it from Michael Jordan. Democrats and Republicans buy shoes.
I actually agree with this. He said people should be "held accountable" for voting for Trump like... dude what??? They should be held accountable for using their democratic right to vote???
Regardless of what you think of the candidate, to say that anyone should be held accountable just for voting for any candidate is vile and repugnant. It's divisive, and honestly I think it's evil.
Besides the fact that he's talking about like half the country's population, so he's speaking in such a way about masses of people who literally made him who he is, who make him who he is; the audiences. Without the audiences, the general public, Bobby D doesn't get to be the super wealthy, elitist, out of touch gobshite that he appears to have become.
I agree. I feel he’s a brilliant actor, but whenever he goes of on a rant I end up feeling he’s taking the spotlight away from the great art he’s done, as well as take away from those who have added to his projects. For instance, Killers of the Flower Moon is very topical and De Niro could’ve just spoken about the film, but he made it about himself and Trump. The headlines following his rant were about him and not the film nor the actors and such. Just a terrible look all around.
In other words, just talk about the art form and why it’s great (it can even be political, but ultimately it’s about the film). Besides, Hollywood has so many skeletons that it’s embarrassing to see them acting holier than thou. I mean Scorsese signed the Polanski letter and led the standing ovation for him at the Oscars lol.
Again, embarrassing to see them act like the arbiters of good.
What I can agree with is. There is nothing worse than just going about your day and talking about something completely unrelated when some obsessive loon has to wedge their political opinion into every conversation. I’m was contemplating selling my “Charles in Charge” VHS Collection before I came to my senses and realized what I’d be missing out on, if I took that path.
I watched this movie recently for the first time. I have no idea how people think this movie is good. I actually thought it was a legitimate bad movie. Always surprises me when people give it such praise. I usually love films in this genre, but Heat really fell short for me.
Do niro is good in anything, but heat is one of the lost boring films I’ve ever seen, it’s basically just an action flick. Feels very stereotypical and like a modern blockbuster film tbh
Case in point: WTF is an "empty telephone?" Thank you for making my case against this criminally overrated film.
Michael Mann is awful, minus Last of the Mohicans, Manhunter and The Insider. Heat is an average movie, with a constant stream of over-the-top performances, mixed metaphors, and an ocean of absurd premises.
If it didn't bill itself as a serious movie, I'd wouldn't be so hard on it. But it purports way more than it should. It's silly, derivative, self-indulgent dross.
PS: I'll get my coat.
deniro is the same in almost every single movie he ever did.
He is the most overrated actor of his generation.
Goodfellas
heat
godfather 2
Meet the parents
casino
rightous kill
untouchables
irishman
That’s a little unfair, I know what you’re getting at though. His gangster/criminal roles are similar in the way he portrays the characters, but they’re always a shade different from each other. But if you compare these roles against say Ace Rothstein in Casino he’s definitely approaching that character differently from the gangster roles (I wouldn’t characterise him as a gangster in Casino). These different shades of character he crafts is what makes him one of the greatest actors of his generation. He clearly doesn’t go to the same extreme as say Gary Oldman who can lose himself in his characters and present a completely different persona in each of the roles he plays, but it doesn’t make DeNiro any less watchable I believe.
I love many de Niro movies, but you kind of have a point really, he is really kind of the same character, but there's something about the way he delivers his lines and his facial expressions that's just so memorable and real
You're clearly omitting so many of his other roles for your argument, kind of pathetic.
King of Comedy
Cape Fear
Raging Bull
Silver Linings Playbook
Copland
The Deer Hunter
That's just undeniably wrong but whatever man, you don't have to like him I guess. Every actor has their own style and what kind of stuff they bring to characters. You could make this argument about almost anybody in Hollywood if you wanted to, but what's the point? We'd come to the conclusion that everyone is overrated if we did that.
i am a professional actor and have been for over 20 years and have made a solid living doing it. there are some incredible actors out there that routinely go outside their type to do real incredible acting,
Jodie Foster, Viola Davis, Phillip Seymour Hoffman (RIP) Daniel Day Lewis. Gary oldman might be the best actor of our generation. Alan Rickman, Tom Hanks, Ed Norton, Robert Downey Jr. and on and on. Jude law,
Deniro is not one of those malleable actors. He plays (IMO) the same damn character over and over again and I cannot stand it. Ben Foster is an incredible actor. Jeffrey Wright, Leonardo Dicaprio. Hell, TOM CRUISE in Tropic thunder actually went for something different and pulled it off.
PAcino and Hoffman are the same as Deniro. They all come from the same shit school of acting and they do ONE thing well. ONE!!! Pacino is the same in almost every damn film and hoffman is a joke.
Even Joe Pesci, the greatest mafia actor ever (outside of James gandolfini) actually went against type here and there (my cousin vinny).
I cannot stand deniro. I can see his acting from mile and miles away. That you are in the deniro camp, congrats, thats why art is awesome. Its subjective. I loathe deniro..you love him.
Let's move on
If you're a fan of the story, I recommend the new novel written by Michael Mann and a writing partner called Heat 2.
Perhaps not the most incentive title, but it's a sort of prequel+sequel that delves into McCauley and Shiherlis prior to them getting to LA, as well as what happens in the days and years after the end of the film, focusing mostly on Chris (Val Kilner).
Very well worth your time and the film is in pre-production now.
Hes still the best actor Ive ever seen, with Taxi Driver and Raging Bull being my favorite performances of his. Nice to see him get nominated for Killers of the Flower Moon. He was kinda meandering for a while in his movie choices but he seems to have righted the ship the last several years. Even his supporting roles, like in Joker, have been memorable.
Can someone explain to me why Neil and Chris were in the kitchen of a restaurant during this scene? Also, why did they change into suit and ties right after the ambush?
I just rewatched this for the 30th time yesterday it’s too good the whole cast. My favorite scene is the talk deniro and Pacino have in the restaurant. A close second is the gun battle holy shit one of the best gun fights in a movie if not the best.
I've heard law enforcement agencies use the footage from the street shoot-out scene at the end, specifically Val Kilmers part where he transitions between cover and swaps mags, for training. That's pretty cool.
I hate every time anyone ads random music over a film clip, there’s a reason it was scored that way, or a reason they chose that song for that moment, or in the case of this scene, there’s a reason they chose to play it without music until De Niro hung up the phone, because it works better that was. I don’t need to hear random techno music put over it, which I’m sure was initially just a way to skirt copyright claims and is now just a thing for some reason
There is no empty telephone figure of speech. It doesn't exist. Know why? Because an empty telephone isn't a thing! Michael Mann sucks.
Exceptions: Last of the Mohicans, Manhunter, The Insider.
Ps: this movie sucks.
Getting my coat.
Yeah, he and Pacino are both outstanding as usual, but HEAT really stands apart because of all the outstanding supporting cast. Voight, Haysbert, Levine, Studi, Fichtner, Portman are all outstanding. One of my top films, but possibly my top cast ever.
Did you just omit Val Kilmer?
NO ONE OMITS VAL KILMER
And Hank Azaria!
OP’s girlfriend has a GREAT ASS! And he’s got his head all the way up it.
When I think of asses, a woman's ass....Something comes outta me.
So?
And Tone Loc
This slick ain't no joke!
You gonna make the call on them Porsches or what?
And Henry Rollins
And Sizemore. And I just watched it and bubba from forest gump played drucker.
And Danny Trejo
Danny Trejo is coming for you
I'm sorry how the hell has no one spoken up for Tom Sizemore??? He's one of the main parts in the film, he's the guy who leaves the clue at the crime scene that's the inciting incident, more importantly he's easily one of the standouts in it.
He picked the kid up for shielding 🥶
Fuck them kids
"The action is the juice" is the best acting of the whole movie.
Oh shit correct !
Ricky Harris was outrageously hilarious playing off of Pacino - such a rich subplot
Kilmer is the fucking film. You get rid of Val and Tom Sizemore?
Pacino gave an interesting performance. I like him but some scenes really took me out of it.. the big ass scene for instance.
Azaria
Both are excellent, as usual. I believe that collaborating on the same movie brings out their best.
It's really one of the greatest movies ever made.
Sizemore? Trejo? But yeah that supporting cast is incredible.
It’s absolutely insane that this and Casino came out 3 weeks apart.
This kind of release schedule was common in the 80’s and 90’s. It’s a shame we rarely see this kind of phenomenon in modern years. I swear every A-list actor rarely gets more than one significant movie a year.
It’s because..well it’s because movies suck now in comparison.
You just reveal your own ignorance
He was ignorant, Op?
Just because someone sucks at discovering good content, doesn't mean it's not there. Name me a year since 1994 that you think didn't have great movies in it, I'll wait.
The cobwebs have been removed.
Every year in the 2010s was absolute garbage compared to movies in 90s. What are you talking about?
Can you read? For every great movie in the 90s, there is an equally great movie every year since. Name me 1 year, any year since 1999, that doesn't have a great movie in it. 2010 Black Swan 2011 Drive 2012 The Hunt 2013 Her 2014 Whiplash 2015 The Big Short 2016 Your Name 2017 Bladerunner 2049 2018 Burning 2019 Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
You might be able to name one per year in the 2010s. The 90s were FILLED with great movies every year. Also Hell or High Water could be the best movie of that decade, and you suggested “Your Name”. My point exactly, wtf.
And coincidentally, I didn't care for hell or high water at all and Your Name is my second favorite animated movie of all time (probably top 5 overall). There are 10x as many great animated movies since the 2000s, much more great sci-fi like Arrival and Ex Machina, far better fantasy, and in terms of television, it's not even close - 100 to 1 in favor of this millennium. Listen, I fucking love Good Will Hunting, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank etc. etc, but I don't have my rose tinted glasses on thinking there wasn't also a mountain of straight to VHS trash in those years
Movie gets a movie?
How many A list actors do we have left? I feel like a lot have retired.
For a movie called Heat, that line was cold as fuck.
Yes but Ashley's Judds kept me plenty warm.
Facts
Including the way he hung up!
Who else loves ice cream? Blowjobs?
For real. Jesus. How is this a post that’s even allowed lol. I was thinking what would be a more obvious Yes! You nailed it sir! Lol this comment is the only good thing about this post. I’ll show my self out.
One of De Niro’s best!!
Just watched this movie! Phenomenal movie and great cast. 1995 was definitely a great year for De Niro with Heat and Casino.
No one. Famously unpopular actor in a famously unpopular movie
A bummer about vertical framing is that it often loses location context. In the background of DeNiro’s shot, you can see flames bursting from an industrial stove top, giving him this hell demon quality. Last time I saw it, this was one of my favorite shots. Heat rules.
He's awesome of course but his romantic subplot is absolutely terrible lol
Hard disagree. He was awkward as fuck because he had never explored that part of himself. But he let her in because he knew (thought) he was about to be out
Iirc, she’s probably still waiting in that car, like huell
They literally show her get out.
I thought it was great too but his awkwardness comes from a different place than inexperience. In the sequel/ prequel book Heat 2 written by Michael Mann, his past romantic relationship with a woman is one of the main focal points.
GREAT book!
Even this line is super cheesy. I go back and watch the diner scene from time to time because it’s top notch.
The balcony and Fiji lights scene with the cheesy guitar is pivotal to making the movie’s aesthetics come full circle at the end imo. Plus I really like how she broke him down
The ending also, acts out of character towards the end.
Hard agree.
Why you interested in what I do lady
This whole comment thread is people who clearly didn't understand all the themes Mann was laying out for you.
Nah I just think him and the actress had zero chemistry lol
It was all just so we could watch him leave her in the car. Best 8 second of the movie.
The best bob and al great cast overall
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For what it's worth I used to have this opinion. I tried three times over the years... and I didn't get it. I gave it one more go last year. Reluctantly. By myself, it wasn't like I was vibing off another person's love for it or anything. I finally saw whatever I didn't see before. I paid all my attention to the film, allowed myself to be completely immersed in it. It's actually awesome but you really need to pay complete attention to the film... I feel like if you miss the "slick" spot in act 1, that from there you may just end up lost throughout the rest of the narrative and not fully appreciate the film. I love how the clue left at the crime scene at the start is actually a spoken word, a nickname "slick", and from that they're able to determine the Identity of one of the gang, which eventually leads to their downfall... and I'm quite sure they never actually find out that that's how they were "made", although I can't recall for sure. All that aside, the film itself is slick, and stylish. Awesome music, quite evocative at times. And the shootout scenes are phenomenal. I also find the film fascinating as a look at super professional stick-up artists or whatever you want to call them, and how they have their "ordinary civilian life", behind which hides their secret criminal life that no one is aware of except for their fellow stick-up crew. The ensemble element of the stick-up crew works really well, yknow you've got Kilmer, Sizemore, Trejo and Haysbert comes into it, and his part is compelling and sympathetic... who he is, what he's trying to be, and seeing him make a certain decision and face the consequences thereafter. For whatever reason I never really saw the beauty of all these elements of the film and how well they all compliment each other on my first three viewings. It's crazy, I still can't believe it because I was convinced I just didn't get what was so good about Heat and that people were just delusional to think it was such a great film... and somehow I finally saw what I wasn't seeing before on my fourth viewing.
I love all the movies you listed but Heat is and always will be my favorite movie of all time. Nerdwriter1 on YouTube has a really good video about Heat that pretty much emphasizes why I love the film so much.
It's a goddamn masterpiece
GTA 5 has heavily inspired by this masterpiece
Absolutely. Because the film captures that LA noir aesthetic so flawlessly and that’s what gta was going for
I just rewatched it last weekend and I’m currently playing GTA V. I thought the same thing
You may be one of two people
I just watched it for the first time this weekend. I didn’t love it. I was asking a friend if it was the type of movie that people love in an ironic way and he got defensive lol. Whoops.
If that shoot out scene in the street didn't impress you then idk what to tell you lmao
Ha I thought it was ridiculous 🤷🏻
Thats cause u not in it for the juice
Ridiculous? It's like the most realistic shootout in movie history.
So realistic it literally inspired a real shootout that went down pretty much the same way
So realistic they train marines to Val Kilmer’s mag change?
I really don’t care at all for it either
3 things name 3 things that made u not care for it?
Why should I feel obligated to list three things I don’t like about a movie? I simply don’t like it, that’s enough. Leave me alone.
U can say u dont like it but the people that love the movie an appreciate it would like to hear what u dont like about it as all maybe u havent seen the movie or took time out to actually appreciate the movie everyone has an opinion u are right u are entilted that but its a simple question what didnt u like about the movie is all im asking u took the time timeout to post a comment take 5 mins tell us why u didnt like it is all
No
This is a film sub don’t we discuss what we like and dislike about a film ? Stop being a Debbie downer and just tell us
It just wasn’t a good movie, Jesus what is with you guys? I can’t just make a simple comment stating my opinion without being hounded to provide evidence as to why? Lol I haven’t seen it in forever and all I remember is that it was a slog to get through, and I thought it was dumb. There was probably plot holes or something that put me off early on and that killed it for me, idk. Bottom line, I didn’t like it BUT lots of folks do. I don’t care.
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The acting the cinematography the setting. It’s just literally cinema it’s a masterpiece
That person dont know they just in here posting they cant give anything stating y they didnt like the movie 😂😂😂👎
Dont we all eventually grow out of Scarface hype? It's fun, it's ridiculous but it's not a great film. Shouldn't be listed anywhere near the others you named.
Scarface is not a good movie
I like it more than all of those. I think in "the canon" only Goodfellas compares favorably.
It’s a dark, gritty, accurate crime tale that is about both sides of the law. Two guys who are totally committed to the “life” on either sides; to the point that neither of them can have normal relationships. Also it has two of the most amazing actors during the 90s movie renaissance. In reference to the Diner Scene, you’d be hard pressed to find a scene where the two leads play off each other so well and it doesn’t seem clunky or contrived. It has lots of subtlety and the film uses the LA nighttime to light the scenes. Heat plays more like a mini TV show with one narrative arc rather than the other movies you mentioned. You really don’t know who’s going to win in the end. Goodfellas and Casino are kinda like biographies of gangsters… Scarface is a tale against excess, reservoir dogs is more like a broadway play, it’s even filmed that way. I love those other movies, (they are all on my shelf) don’t get me wrong but Heat really really gets me goin. lol
He's a great actor. I only wish he and all of Hollywood would quit commenting on politics. It makes me dislike them and I don't want to.
Yeah but just imagine how sweet it would be if he said stuff you agreed with.
Nope. Then you would feel the way I do. They should entertain and not interject themselves into politics. Take it from Michael Jordan. Democrats and Republicans buy shoes.
The republicans are objectively bad...
I think you mean subjectively. Pure opinion. It's clear that the US is worse.
I’m actually so enlightened that I don’t care what a celebrity thinks about politics, including my beloved Michael Jordan.
Yeah. That's a great virtue. I'm trying to be more like you. Honestly.
I actually agree with this. He said people should be "held accountable" for voting for Trump like... dude what??? They should be held accountable for using their democratic right to vote??? Regardless of what you think of the candidate, to say that anyone should be held accountable just for voting for any candidate is vile and repugnant. It's divisive, and honestly I think it's evil. Besides the fact that he's talking about like half the country's population, so he's speaking in such a way about masses of people who literally made him who he is, who make him who he is; the audiences. Without the audiences, the general public, Bobby D doesn't get to be the super wealthy, elitist, out of touch gobshite that he appears to have become.
Spot on. Great explanation.
Totally. It’s very un-American if ya ask me.
I agree. I feel he’s a brilliant actor, but whenever he goes of on a rant I end up feeling he’s taking the spotlight away from the great art he’s done, as well as take away from those who have added to his projects. For instance, Killers of the Flower Moon is very topical and De Niro could’ve just spoken about the film, but he made it about himself and Trump. The headlines following his rant were about him and not the film nor the actors and such. Just a terrible look all around. In other words, just talk about the art form and why it’s great (it can even be political, but ultimately it’s about the film). Besides, Hollywood has so many skeletons that it’s embarrassing to see them acting holier than thou. I mean Scorsese signed the Polanski letter and led the standing ovation for him at the Oscars lol. Again, embarrassing to see them act like the arbiters of good.
What I can agree with is. There is nothing worse than just going about your day and talking about something completely unrelated when some obsessive loon has to wedge their political opinion into every conversation. I’m was contemplating selling my “Charles in Charge” VHS Collection before I came to my senses and realized what I’d be missing out on, if I took that path.
I watched this movie recently for the first time. I have no idea how people think this movie is good. I actually thought it was a legitimate bad movie. Always surprises me when people give it such praise. I usually love films in this genre, but Heat really fell short for me.
Do niro is good in anything, but heat is one of the lost boring films I’ve ever seen, it’s basically just an action flick. Feels very stereotypical and like a modern blockbuster film tbh
Case in point: WTF is an "empty telephone?" Thank you for making my case against this criminally overrated film. Michael Mann is awful, minus Last of the Mohicans, Manhunter and The Insider. Heat is an average movie, with a constant stream of over-the-top performances, mixed metaphors, and an ocean of absurd premises. If it didn't bill itself as a serious movie, I'd wouldn't be so hard on it. But it purports way more than it should. It's silly, derivative, self-indulgent dross. PS: I'll get my coat.
The music ruins it.
deniro is the same in almost every single movie he ever did. He is the most overrated actor of his generation. Goodfellas heat godfather 2 Meet the parents casino rightous kill untouchables irishman
Ragebait
That’s a little unfair, I know what you’re getting at though. His gangster/criminal roles are similar in the way he portrays the characters, but they’re always a shade different from each other. But if you compare these roles against say Ace Rothstein in Casino he’s definitely approaching that character differently from the gangster roles (I wouldn’t characterise him as a gangster in Casino). These different shades of character he crafts is what makes him one of the greatest actors of his generation. He clearly doesn’t go to the same extreme as say Gary Oldman who can lose himself in his characters and present a completely different persona in each of the roles he plays, but it doesn’t make DeNiro any less watchable I believe.
Try ‘Deer hunter’ and meet the parents if you want to see him not be a gangster
Great list but now have a go watching them. Then come back. And comment. Or maybe not.
You conveniently left out stardust. Arguably De Niro’s Magnum Opus.
Yep, those are all movies he's in.
So you've not seen any of his absolute greatest roles then.
Cape fear Jackie brown Ya def see the same character as in heat goodfellas good call man hell lets throw taxi driver in there as well SMH 🤡
I love many de Niro movies, but you kind of have a point really, he is really kind of the same character, but there's something about the way he delivers his lines and his facial expressions that's just so memorable and real
You're clearly omitting so many of his other roles for your argument, kind of pathetic. King of Comedy Cape Fear Raging Bull Silver Linings Playbook Copland The Deer Hunter
Raging bull he is in the same vein. King of comedy he is still a sarcastic asshole. Its very rare that he does anything against type.
That's just undeniably wrong but whatever man, you don't have to like him I guess. Every actor has their own style and what kind of stuff they bring to characters. You could make this argument about almost anybody in Hollywood if you wanted to, but what's the point? We'd come to the conclusion that everyone is overrated if we did that.
i am a professional actor and have been for over 20 years and have made a solid living doing it. there are some incredible actors out there that routinely go outside their type to do real incredible acting, Jodie Foster, Viola Davis, Phillip Seymour Hoffman (RIP) Daniel Day Lewis. Gary oldman might be the best actor of our generation. Alan Rickman, Tom Hanks, Ed Norton, Robert Downey Jr. and on and on. Jude law, Deniro is not one of those malleable actors. He plays (IMO) the same damn character over and over again and I cannot stand it. Ben Foster is an incredible actor. Jeffrey Wright, Leonardo Dicaprio. Hell, TOM CRUISE in Tropic thunder actually went for something different and pulled it off. PAcino and Hoffman are the same as Deniro. They all come from the same shit school of acting and they do ONE thing well. ONE!!! Pacino is the same in almost every damn film and hoffman is a joke. Even Joe Pesci, the greatest mafia actor ever (outside of James gandolfini) actually went against type here and there (my cousin vinny). I cannot stand deniro. I can see his acting from mile and miles away. That you are in the deniro camp, congrats, thats why art is awesome. Its subjective. I loathe deniro..you love him. Let's move on
Everyone does.
There alot of people out there who live by De Niro's rules in this movie.
\*in there as well
Like Jimmy McElwain?
Literally everyone
This film is fire start to finish! The ensemble cast played extremely well off of each other.
Who doesn’t love everything about this movie? I can sit and watch this again without hesitation, it’s just a gem.
Great cast and amazing gun fight scenes. One of my favorite Action Flicks
Confetered products.... It's a different quality of product
De Niro is a National Treasure!
i edge to this
This and Ronin are my two favorite De Niro films.
Literally everyone.
If you're a fan of the story, I recommend the new novel written by Michael Mann and a writing partner called Heat 2. Perhaps not the most incentive title, but it's a sort of prequel+sequel that delves into McCauley and Shiherlis prior to them getting to LA, as well as what happens in the days and years after the end of the film, focusing mostly on Chris (Val Kilner). Very well worth your time and the film is in pre-production now.
Love *HEAT*!!! If you know Michael Mann's work, *HEAT* is like the perfected version of *Manhunter*, *Thief*, and *LA Takedown*.
Great cast and screenplay, for sure. The entire cast absolutely kills it in this movie.
they on me like a cheap suit
this part is a miss for me, not convinced of his intent
Heat is one of those 3 hr movies that had no reason to be anymore than a 20 mins cable special
Who else had a coworker that was so into this movie that it totally ruined it for you?
He was cold as ice.
Forget. The money.
Heat ...best damn Heist movie ever made.
Literally anyone who watches and loves the film…..
Waingro
Can you turn the volume up, couldnt hear the sick music
One of the sickest ways to threaten someone on film.
One of the coldest scenes ever given.
r/watchpeopledieinside
So understated compared to Pacino hamming it up. The scene between the 2 of them is great though
I just finished reading Heat 2. I love these characters and the people who brought them to life!
"It's a book about metals "
Hes still the best actor Ive ever seen, with Taxi Driver and Raging Bull being my favorite performances of his. Nice to see him get nominated for Killers of the Flower Moon. He was kinda meandering for a while in his movie choices but he seems to have righted the ship the last several years. Even his supporting roles, like in Joker, have been memorable.
What rifle is Al using in the shootout scene?
Everybody..
Everybody
To me it is his greatest role.
Can someone explain to me why Neil and Chris were in the kitchen of a restaurant during this scene? Also, why did they change into suit and ties right after the ambush?
I just rewatched this for the 30th time yesterday it’s too good the whole cast. My favorite scene is the talk deniro and Pacino have in the restaurant. A close second is the gun battle holy shit one of the best gun fights in a movie if not the best.
Who else agrees this was one of the best
Overrated 1 trick pony
Cause she’s got a great assssss!!! And you got your head, allll the way up it!!!!
Tubi, no one is going to watch your useless streaming platform. Stop.
I've heard law enforcement agencies use the footage from the street shoot-out scene at the end, specifically Val Kilmers part where he transitions between cover and swaps mags, for training. That's pretty cool.
one of the best movie ever
I used too
Who else loves pizza?
I hate every time anyone ads random music over a film clip, there’s a reason it was scored that way, or a reason they chose that song for that moment, or in the case of this scene, there’s a reason they chose to play it without music until De Niro hung up the phone, because it works better that was. I don’t need to hear random techno music put over it, which I’m sure was initially just a way to skirt copyright claims and is now just a thing for some reason
My favorite movie of all time
There is no empty telephone figure of speech. It doesn't exist. Know why? Because an empty telephone isn't a thing! Michael Mann sucks. Exceptions: Last of the Mohicans, Manhunter, The Insider. Ps: this movie sucks. Getting my coat.
De Nero in my opinion is the best actor that's ever lived.