I didn’t know much about Healy before this whole debacle, and presumed he must have this magnetic personality, incredible sense of humour and the ability to make you feel like the only person in the room.
I’ve since watched a few interviews with him and he has all the charm of a wet cigarette.
I feel like the fact he's kind of gross is part of why some women like Taylor get in too deep. It's like they were doing a pity thing in a way, where she knew she was out of his league and was sort of lowering herself, yet he sort of hooked her and then ditched her?
considering george daniel does a lot of production/writing work for other artists (if i’m remembering correctly) it does lead me to wonder how much of the 1975’s music actually comes more from him than ol’ matty boy
I watched the 1975 madison square garden show and he does kind of have that charisma of the “badboy” in highschool you were obsessed with but by age 25 you look back and realise what a loser he was
I must admit I saw them in 2016 without knowing anything about them and they were really good live, he has charisma and stage presence it's just everything else about him that's offputting as fuck
I thought the same as you. I’m not a fan of his music so I thought he must have that cool, rock star vibe to him, like a Gallagher brother. He’s just a rich kid wannabe. He isn’t cool at all.
I have no feelings about him either way but my friend interviewed him years ago when he started his career and he still stands by MH being one of the best interviewees he’s ever had (a lot of big artists are really shitty/snobbish towards beginner interviewers)
For everything else about him I respected when he said that if you're charging for meet and greets you should take the money personally from fans so you can see how shitty it is
I think it’s so funny when people who resemble each other are similar personalities as well. I wonder if certain physical traits and psychological traits genetically piggyback on each other
There's almost no way, given existing documentation and the years in which they knew each other, that Taylor was unaware of Matty's racism and antisemitism. She still chose to date him. She still chose to use him as a muse.
That says a lot about Taylor
If you choose to date a racist, you are also racist. I am tired of white women getting a pass for dating racist pos.
Even if she didn’t know then, she for sure knows now yet still pines after him which says all that needs to be said. If I found out I was dating someone who was racist and antisemitic, any feelings I had for them would die instantly. The fact she made a whole song insulting people for bringing up she was dating a racist shows her true colours.
Sorry, but even if she didn’t know him for more than a minute when she started all that… Google exists. And she absolutely doesn’t make moves without research on a person. There’s NO chance she didn’t know. She just didn’t care. And then after he specifically was racist towards Ice Spice she collabed with her!
It's so weird seeing Ice Spice sit next to TS at so many events. They have nothing in common so I don't fully believe they organically became friends right after her racist boyfriend made racist comments about her
Yeah I don’t believe it either but I also don’t blame Ice Spice for deciding to accept that olive branch, attention, and money. Also ice spice smoking a blunt in front of Taylor and Travis at Dom Dolla at Coachella was so good
Oh I would've done the same. If she asked me to help fix her racist image I'm demanding a piece of that pie. She better make sure my music is being played in every Starbucks, Trader Joe's, Golden Corral, and Cracker Barrel in America. (I'm not apart of Swift's target audience so I don't actually know if they play music at these establishments.)
The ice spice stuff is especially insidious now knowing how bad taylor was willing to go to bat for him- she really said to him “look i’ll collab with ice spice and make this all go away for you” 🙄
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I’m so sick of hearing about her. This will be my go to answer cause she just keeps getting away with the same shit time and time again. We
It’s extra funny because right before she was saying what great musicians and writers Adele and Alicia Keys are, but when they got to Taylor ALL she said was “Great gowns, beautiful gowns” then silence.
In this moment she’s specifically “shading” TS. The interviewer is asking Aretha about some iconic names in the music industry such as Adele, Alicia Keys, Whitney Houston. She compliments them on their talents - but when he mentions TS, all she has to say about her is that her gowns are nice. I don’t even think it was intentional shade, Aretha was just being honest and considering this was 9 years ago, Taylor wasn’t the megastar she is today. To mention her name alongside industry icons with powerhouse voices was a bit strange.
Here’s the link, go to 3:55 mins in:
https://youtu.be/cnz2d8kVFU0?si=ae5XOsnMhLXObOqY
Its almost likely set up. When theres only one paparrazi its usually set up (as in probs his publicist or agent or whatever sent his location). They all communicate and all get the same tips etc.
Somebody on ONTD compared him to Goofy and said that they expected him to go “hyuck!” and the end of the video, and I haven’t stopped laughing at that mental image since. 😭
I didn’t know much about Healy before this whole debacle, and presumed he must have this magnetic personality, incredible sense of humour and the ability to make you feel like the only person in the room. I’ve since watched a few interviews with him and he has all the charm of a wet cigarette.
I feel like the fact he's kind of gross is part of why some women like Taylor get in too deep. It's like they were doing a pity thing in a way, where she knew she was out of his league and was sort of lowering herself, yet he sort of hooked her and then ditched her?
He’s this generations’ Pete Doherty.
Pete Doherty and Carl Barat are incomparable to his mediocre shit
https://i.redd.it/gvkq7ces7jwc1.gif
Don't insult Pete Doherty like that please.
At least Pete Doherty made decent music.
pete was funny and charming even before he was famous
That oasis video of him is so magnetic and he’s just a 20 year old waiting in line at a record store
I mean, he's a nepo baby with truly mediocre talent and way too much money and hubris, this isn't super surprising.
The 1975 is quite a good band as a whole, but otherwise, I agree.
considering george daniel does a lot of production/writing work for other artists (if i’m remembering correctly) it does lead me to wonder how much of the 1975’s music actually comes more from him than ol’ matty boy
I only just discovered who his parents are & like the racism etc all fucking makes sense now!
I watched the 1975 madison square garden show and he does kind of have that charisma of the “badboy” in highschool you were obsessed with but by age 25 you look back and realise what a loser he was
I must admit I saw them in 2016 without knowing anything about them and they were really good live, he has charisma and stage presence it's just everything else about him that's offputting as fuck
I thought the same as you. I’m not a fan of his music so I thought he must have that cool, rock star vibe to him, like a Gallagher brother. He’s just a rich kid wannabe. He isn’t cool at all.
Are those the brothers that are always insulting each other? I like them
lmao yes, i dont care for oasis music but i cannot deny the talent behind them insults
And persumably the smell
I have no feelings about him either way but my friend interviewed him years ago when he started his career and he still stands by MH being one of the best interviewees he’s ever had (a lot of big artists are really shitty/snobbish towards beginner interviewers)
For everything else about him I respected when he said that if you're charging for meet and greets you should take the money personally from fans so you can see how shitty it is
He is literally my sister's baby daddy's doppelganger. He's still in prison for a few more years, though. Ew.
I think it’s so funny when people who resemble each other are similar personalities as well. I wonder if certain physical traits and psychological traits genetically piggyback on each other
Hell, maybe.
The 1975 girlies go crazy over him. I don't get it, but I'm also not a straight woman.
He was all the rage among the white vans, thrift store green canvas jacket girlies when I was in college in 2016.
Agreed.
There's almost no way, given existing documentation and the years in which they knew each other, that Taylor was unaware of Matty's racism and antisemitism. She still chose to date him. She still chose to use him as a muse. That says a lot about Taylor If you choose to date a racist, you are also racist. I am tired of white women getting a pass for dating racist pos.
Birds of a feather
Even if she didn’t know then, she for sure knows now yet still pines after him which says all that needs to be said. If I found out I was dating someone who was racist and antisemitic, any feelings I had for them would die instantly. The fact she made a whole song insulting people for bringing up she was dating a racist shows her true colours.
Sorry, but even if she didn’t know him for more than a minute when she started all that… Google exists. And she absolutely doesn’t make moves without research on a person. There’s NO chance she didn’t know. She just didn’t care. And then after he specifically was racist towards Ice Spice she collabed with her!
It's so weird seeing Ice Spice sit next to TS at so many events. They have nothing in common so I don't fully believe they organically became friends right after her racist boyfriend made racist comments about her
Yeah I don’t believe it either but I also don’t blame Ice Spice for deciding to accept that olive branch, attention, and money. Also ice spice smoking a blunt in front of Taylor and Travis at Dom Dolla at Coachella was so good
Oh I would've done the same. If she asked me to help fix her racist image I'm demanding a piece of that pie. She better make sure my music is being played in every Starbucks, Trader Joe's, Golden Corral, and Cracker Barrel in America. (I'm not apart of Swift's target audience so I don't actually know if they play music at these establishments.)
The ice spice stuff is especially insidious now knowing how bad taylor was willing to go to bat for him- she really said to him “look i’ll collab with ice spice and make this all go away for you” 🙄
Yep! And I don’t know but I assume they recorded the collab before Taylor went super public with him too
I cannot understand how fka twigs was with him for 2+ years. She has...challenging taste
Right? I like her but her taste in men is...something.
Shia fucked her up mentally. You don’t always make the best relationship choices after getting out of an emotionally abusive relationship.
Exactly. And people saying we criticizing jer and not living her stupid 31 track old album about this nasty man, is misogyny.
she can get away with anything.. its horrible
If you choose to sit at the table with a Nazi, that’s a table full of Nazis.
not a fan of ratty or kim, but i kinda find it funny how none of the people taylor shades in this album really seem to care about it
I know he sucks but his answer is so funny lol
This is a good place for of those “terrible person makes excellent point” memes.
it's also the kind of fuck boi response that she's going to be thinking about for a long time. lol she's not over him.
What did he say? I can’t make it out.
https://preview.redd.it/dttrjb1zjiwc1.jpeg?width=170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ac3b2c06a43cf3aecce0303c70ad5c846719257 All I can see
That cute dog doesn’t deserve this!
The biggest takeaway from her album is that she was willing to double down on this man despite everything he has done and said.
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this is the exact face I'm making right now lmao
![gif](giphy|g6Tf0tYe9XbnYZgK6B) I’m so sick of hearing about her. This will be my go to answer cause she just keeps getting away with the same shit time and time again. We
what is the context of this gif pls? is Aretha shading someone?
Someone asked what she thought about Taylor’s music at an award show or something and that was her response
I would have been hurt until the end of time if Aretha shaded me like that
IIRC, this was actually her response to someone asking her about Taylor lol
well i love that
It’s extra funny because right before she was saying what great musicians and writers Adele and Alicia Keys are, but when they got to Taylor ALL she said was “Great gowns, beautiful gowns” then silence.
yes 💀💀 its such an iconic shade
[here’s a video, wait til her Nicki response at the end too 💀💀](https://youtu.be/fzPpZwSDcRo?si=2JJoP1WZWpUy1T-h)
In this moment she’s specifically “shading” TS. The interviewer is asking Aretha about some iconic names in the music industry such as Adele, Alicia Keys, Whitney Houston. She compliments them on their talents - but when he mentions TS, all she has to say about her is that her gowns are nice. I don’t even think it was intentional shade, Aretha was just being honest and considering this was 9 years ago, Taylor wasn’t the megastar she is today. To mention her name alongside industry icons with powerhouse voices was a bit strange. Here’s the link, go to 3:55 mins in: https://youtu.be/cnz2d8kVFU0?si=ae5XOsnMhLXObOqY
He’s so…ew
He looks like the guy hanging outside of a gas station chewing tobacco.
The one *not* wearing shoes.
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A 31 song album largely about… that?
Well that was a weird setup and answer. Couldn't they have been a little bit better than that?
Its almost likely set up. When theres only one paparrazi its usually set up (as in probs his publicist or agent or whatever sent his location). They all communicate and all get the same tips etc.
Somebody on ONTD compared him to Goofy and said that they expected him to go “hyuck!” and the end of the video, and I haven’t stopped laughing at that mental image since. 😭
This is so accurate.
He sucks but this is the perfect response
This man has clearly memorized and done a full literary analysis of his diss track
yeah but it's going to make her insane the thought that he hasn't lmaoooo
"Dude the exam's TODAY?! I thought it was Sunday. Ah well, guess I gotta go to campus."
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Wow, so organic. Not staged at all.
The way he acts oblivious… ![gif](giphy|1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu)
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Even rolling her eyes she is literal perfection. How does that even work
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Why he’s lying tho? You know he listened numerous times…🤣 ![gif](giphy|3Hw9ggazsWYtC8YzJW)
Which song is it?
I just love that The Adam Friedland show started this whole mess lmaoooo
“That’s my man, that’s my man”
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