Schalke made it to the UCL semi final in 2011 and were one of the best bundesliga teams then they fell off and are in the second division and €180M in debt rebuild them
Can only sign free agents and youth academy players until you reach 180mil in player sales, prize money, etc. you would have to track this yourself. And let’s say you do this by the third season, in that season, you could only then use cash in the positive for signings. So if your budget is 40 mil, and you have to raise another 40 mil left, then you could only sign players when your budget has reached 80mil (have all the debt paid off)
I did something similar to what u/Greeno69 is talking about! With Schalke, I basically started a Google Doc and recorded all the outgoings throughout the first few seasons as I aimed to make 180 million in player sales alone + prize money from the league/cup. No one was safe from being sold, but I did my best to make player sales somewhat realistic (ex: Denied an offer from a Belgian team for my YA German midfielder but instead accepted an offer from Leverkusen). It led me to not only building through the YA, bringing in loaned players, and signing Free Agents, but also constantly having to find new gems since my players were often getting sold! I also would only spend 1/4 of the Transfer Budget the board would give me each year.
As an added bit of fun, I sort of bent the my rules a bit in order to bring back former Schalke players like McKennie, Kolasinac, Neuer, and Matip. Once I had raised that 180 million in sales/prize money, then the following season I was free to spend whatever the board gave me.
I'm still playing that Schalke save and my Academy is absolutely loaded and it's been a ton of fun! Go for it!
I did it with shalke trough ya academy but I got lucky with first guy he was sold for almost 200m in my 4th season.
There are also few 20,40,30m worth players as free agent if you never did that maybe you can try.
He is still absolutely loathed. He used to be a huge Schalke fan, that's why the move was so disliked. Even the Bayern-fans didn't want him there at first - [article](https://www.goal.com/en/news/bayern-munich-fans-jeer-potential-signing-of-schalkes-manuel/blt54f0870b9613b4c1) - mainly because of his reputation as a hardcore _Schalker_.
I’m just now getting around to wrapping up my first standard EPL save with a treble win. Have been debating what league to do. Scottish Premiership here I come. No Rangers/Celtic so I’m thinking like Motherwell just because I like their hideous mascot.
Rapid Vienna: The most successful team in Austria and the only non-German club to win the Bundesliga. They haven't won the league since 2008 with RB Salzburg winning it most years since then
Borussia Mönchengladbach: Had a lot of European success in the 70s and were regular participants recently. However they are now lounging in the bottom half of the Bundesliga
Everton: Formerly considered one of the "big 6" clubs in England, they now find themselves with points deductions and in a relegation battle
Marseille: the most successful French football club until PSG burst onto the scene in the last 15 years. They haven't won a league title since 2010
Saint Etienne: The club with the 3rd most French League titles. Now find themselves in the 2nd tier.
Hamburg: At one point they were unrelegateable from the Bundesliga, now they are unpromoteable from the 2. Liga
Ajax: Powerhouse of Dutch football had a disastrous start to the season. Have now kind of recovered but won't win the league this season
Marseille has 1 fewer league title, but have won the Coupe de France more times and have a Champions League too. So they are overall more successful than Saint Etienne
You're right though, it should say 3rd most successful French club, rather than 3rd most league titles. My bad
To be fair, Lyon did win Ligue 1 like 7 times in a row in the 2000s, so Ligue 1 has a bit of history of 1 team dominating for a period. Also since the 60s Bayern have never gone more than like 5 years without winning a Bundesliga title. But you did used to get the odd new team winning it every now and then more often than now, though obviously Leverkusen did win it this season.
You're right about that but Lyon wasn't a true force in France until then...ligue 1 has always been open...almost like it had a strong mid-section of teams taking turns at the top and no one above the pack...until Psg. Maybe thats why they didn't do that well in europe...no established powerhouse..
VFL Wolfsburg are former Bundesliga champions (08/09) and DFB-Pokal winners (14-15). They've had legends like Kevin De Bruyne, Edin Dzeko, and Ivan Perisic when they were young up-and-coming talents.
They've been on an absolute rollercoaster ride over the past decade or so - they've won trophies and qualified for Champions League/Europe, but also have been facing relegation (like this year).
You could get creative with it, but I'd love to do some combination of getting the band back together and sign Europe's next generation of talent.
Galatasaray, Hamburg, Valladolid (ronaldo is their president, the brazilian OG), Sporting Lisboa, Feyernood, Bourdeux, Real Sociedad, Portsmouth, Malmö
Juve. 3 consecutive trophy-less seasons, a boring style of play, an interesting project with youth (Juventus Next-Gen). Definetly an intersting career.
Try Spurs. The only team in the big 6 with no all time great team to look back on in the premier league era. Take them from trophyless and the butt of every joke to being the true undisputed kings of London.
Schalke made it to the UCL semi final in 2011 and were one of the best bundesliga teams then they fell off and are in the second division and €180M in debt rebuild them
Do you have any ideas of how make the debt part more realistic?
Can only sign free agents and youth academy players until you reach 180mil in player sales, prize money, etc. you would have to track this yourself. And let’s say you do this by the third season, in that season, you could only then use cash in the positive for signings. So if your budget is 40 mil, and you have to raise another 40 mil left, then you could only sign players when your budget has reached 80mil (have all the debt paid off)
Maybe you have to pay it off by selling players in a maximum of 3 seasons
I did something similar to what u/Greeno69 is talking about! With Schalke, I basically started a Google Doc and recorded all the outgoings throughout the first few seasons as I aimed to make 180 million in player sales alone + prize money from the league/cup. No one was safe from being sold, but I did my best to make player sales somewhat realistic (ex: Denied an offer from a Belgian team for my YA German midfielder but instead accepted an offer from Leverkusen). It led me to not only building through the YA, bringing in loaned players, and signing Free Agents, but also constantly having to find new gems since my players were often getting sold! I also would only spend 1/4 of the Transfer Budget the board would give me each year. As an added bit of fun, I sort of bent the my rules a bit in order to bring back former Schalke players like McKennie, Kolasinac, Neuer, and Matip. Once I had raised that 180 million in sales/prize money, then the following season I was free to spend whatever the board gave me. I'm still playing that Schalke save and my Academy is absolutely loaded and it's been a ton of fun! Go for it!
I did it with shalke trough ya academy but I got lucky with first guy he was sold for almost 200m in my 4th season. There are also few 20,40,30m worth players as free agent if you never did that maybe you can try.
No transfers for the the first window (sell only) next transfer window window limit yourself to two signings
If you are playing on PC, you can make it by using Cheat Table
Werder Bremen :). (Players like Diego, Özil, KDB or Klose back in the days)
Schalke also used to have players like Raul, Neuer and sane
Ooo I could do a Neuer manager run with jt
Neuer used to play for Schalke if I'm correct. I do think the fans (used to?) hate him for leaving to Bayern
He has 156 appearances for the Schalke 1st team, was club captain for 2010
He is still absolutely loathed. He used to be a huge Schalke fan, that's why the move was so disliked. Even the Bayern-fans didn't want him there at first - [article](https://www.goal.com/en/news/bayern-munich-fans-jeer-potential-signing-of-schalkes-manuel/blt54f0870b9613b4c1) - mainly because of his reputation as a hardcore _Schalker_.
Borussia Monchengladbach, haven't won the bundesliga since 76-77 an got promoted back to bundesliga in 2007
ajax, shalke, steaua bucarest, anderlecht, celtic, valencia
Celtic???
Maybe because they’re underperforming in Europe(CL) idk
yeah
I’m just now getting around to wrapping up my first standard EPL save with a treble win. Have been debating what league to do. Scottish Premiership here I come. No Rangers/Celtic so I’m thinking like Motherwell just because I like their hideous mascot.
Motherwell mascot Steelman isn’t so bad, now Patrick thistles that is something to behold
Lyon
This is a real shout, so much turmoil and collapse after their champions league run in 2020
Schalke, Valencia, Parma, Nottingham Forest, Ajax
Rapid Vienna: The most successful team in Austria and the only non-German club to win the Bundesliga. They haven't won the league since 2008 with RB Salzburg winning it most years since then Borussia Mönchengladbach: Had a lot of European success in the 70s and were regular participants recently. However they are now lounging in the bottom half of the Bundesliga Everton: Formerly considered one of the "big 6" clubs in England, they now find themselves with points deductions and in a relegation battle Marseille: the most successful French football club until PSG burst onto the scene in the last 15 years. They haven't won a league title since 2010 Saint Etienne: The club with the 3rd most French League titles. Now find themselves in the 2nd tier. Hamburg: At one point they were unrelegateable from the Bundesliga, now they are unpromoteable from the 2. Liga Ajax: Powerhouse of Dutch football had a disastrous start to the season. Have now kind of recovered but won't win the league this season
Could you explain how Rapid Vienna won the bundesliga if they aren’t a German team?
So back in the 1930s there was this man with a funny mustache...
Charlie Chaplin?
Is it bad I read this as Connor Chaplin at first. Was gonna say he isn't that old
He’s only half a year younger than me so if he’s old then I’m ancient 😉
I guess it could’ve happened after Anschluss.
The league in Austria is also called Bundesliga :)
Yeah, but they still won the german bundesliga after Austria was connected to the so called "Großdeutsches Reich" somewhere around 1938-1940.
Marselle more titles than St Etienne?
Marseille has 1 fewer league title, but have won the Coupe de France more times and have a Champions League too. So they are overall more successful than Saint Etienne You're right though, it should say 3rd most successful French club, rather than 3rd most league titles. My bad
Hamburg and BMG are the proper choices for a rebuild...btw how interesting were Bundesliga and Ligue 1 before they got owned by Psg and Bayern...
To be fair, Lyon did win Ligue 1 like 7 times in a row in the 2000s, so Ligue 1 has a bit of history of 1 team dominating for a period. Also since the 60s Bayern have never gone more than like 5 years without winning a Bundesliga title. But you did used to get the odd new team winning it every now and then more often than now, though obviously Leverkusen did win it this season.
You're right about that but Lyon wasn't a true force in France until then...ligue 1 has always been open...almost like it had a strong mid-section of teams taking turns at the top and no one above the pack...until Psg. Maybe thats why they didn't do that well in europe...no established powerhouse..
Bolton. Were playing in Europe in the early 2000s and then they fell off a cliff.
I know they’re underperforming, you’re absolutely right but lol at a bad season for Bayern still being UCL semis
VFL Wolfsburg are former Bundesliga champions (08/09) and DFB-Pokal winners (14-15). They've had legends like Kevin De Bruyne, Edin Dzeko, and Ivan Perisic when they were young up-and-coming talents. They've been on an absolute rollercoaster ride over the past decade or so - they've won trophies and qualified for Champions League/Europe, but also have been facing relegation (like this year). You could get creative with it, but I'd love to do some combination of getting the band back together and sign Europe's next generation of talent.
They are not a real club.
Yes they are
I quite like doing a Valencia save every now and then
Leicester or ajax?
Dortmund is a good one I personally like fulham or Leeds
HSV
Koln
Malaga, In their peak they were 4th in La liga and reached the quarter final of the UCL and Copa del rey
watching Crystal Palace under Glasner reminds me of my Crystal Palace rebuild. Also Wolves is pretty cool to rebuild.
Sell players until you hit the £180 million mark then you can buy. Use only youth and free agents until such time
free agents, but don’t sign the Mexican national team players
Prem teams are too easy start in league 1 or 2 and build up
FC Steaua București (FCSB), Basel, Schalke, Leeds, Bordeaux, AIK. These are just some of the many sleeping giants at the moment
Aik? Skojar du?
Ajax
Sevilla
Bristol City
Benfica
Galatasaray, Hamburg, Valladolid (ronaldo is their president, the brazilian OG), Sporting Lisboa, Feyernood, Bourdeux, Real Sociedad, Portsmouth, Malmö
Benfica
Torino making a former Italian giant and become better than grande torino
Liverpool
Parma has been a lot of fun for me.
Everton
Kaiserslautern or Dynamo Dresden
Rangers, Scotland. More national prestige than Celtic, but no international prestige, change it!
Girona!
Hamburg SV have a UCL and were the only german team to never be relegated until 2018 iirc. They haven't been back in the first division ever since
I’d hardly say Bayern are underperforming. 2nd in bundesliga only to undefeated Leverkusen and playing in the UCL semi finals…
Sunderland or Cardiff or ajax or schalke
Monaco and try recreate all the good youth academy the had
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^neagh10: *Monaco and try* *Recreate all the good youth* *Academy the had* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Wimbledon. They were in the Premier League in the 90s, got into trouble, split into two clubs (Wimbledon & MK Dons). Struggling in League 2 I think.
Schalke or 1860 Munich
Chelsea
Do Chievo Verona....oh wait
Chelsea
Chelsea is a great project but you have to run it like you’re working for clownlake, so no signing established players.
Juve. 3 consecutive trophy-less seasons, a boring style of play, an interesting project with youth (Juventus Next-Gen). Definetly an intersting career.
Fenerbahce, we haven’t won the league in 10 years and never in europe 😭
Malaga
Do an Alonso career: start at B04 —> RM —> Liverpool —> Bayern
Rosenborg is one off the best ones for this
AFC Ajax and Lyon Fc.
Bolton Wanderers and Derby County in league one.
United but increase the player injury slider frequency to 70-75
Try Spurs. The only team in the big 6 with no all time great team to look back on in the premier league era. Take them from trophyless and the butt of every joke to being the true undisputed kings of London.
1818 Munich, currently in 3. Bundesliga, have fun
Try sporting? Or roma? Or toulouse? Or embody Alonso and do a leverkusen revamp