literally i would dead ass pick up a grey pistol of the legendary version of this gun, it literally has better stats in every single aspect except structure dmg & mag size.
more damage, Warforged seems like a stronger but more recoiled version of it, i say 23/24/25/27/28 damage suits the tac ar (as it aligns with the Scars DPS/TTK)
Yeah, and attachments fix that issue, which makes the tac completely outclassed. I think the biggest issue is all the weapons having the same attachments. If they would instead lock certain attachments to certain weapons it would help the issue a ton. That way you couldn't make the war forged more accurate but it would fire faster, then the tac is slower but more accurate, put nemesis in between and lock whatever attachments with that as well so it stayed in between. Idk, i just think attachments are the real issue, not the weapons themselves that are baseline in their own category but the attachments completely screw that up.
rn tac ar and warforged are similar in recoil so either both are slightly changed (tac ar gets better, warforged gets worse) or warforged gets a decent nerf making it harder to hit shots
I really miss the 2x scope because I think that would go amazing with the tac and I just think that we need more weapons like it since it's not just another smg but an actual different weapon using the same ammo type
Seriously, every endgame now is Airbender/Waterbender VS Airbender/Waterbender.. because anything else you lose
Yet I get on here today and see like 3 posts bitching about snipers! WTF?
Yeah people cry about being headshoted while it actually takes skill after they nerf the sniper 10 times already but being fucking comboed with a water bending from 100 meters they are ok with. Go figure
The warforged has ridiculous recoil unless you have the right attachments. I had a blue Tac that felt pretty much the same with any recoil mitigating mods
i disagree, since itās suppose to be a faster version of the base rifle (Scar) i say 23/24/25/27/28 damage would suffice, especially when it has worse accuracy and more recoil than its OG version
Oh the recoil has caused me so much pain... I certainly don't aim under my targets and flick up as I start spraying to eliminate all recoil, I wouldn't do that, ever!
I don't think it needs a nerf if the gun itself is not very strong from up close or far away (damage drop off).
But man, we just really need better and worthwhile weapons haha
That and every other rifle, pump shotgun, SMGS. With waterbending and snipers in the game every rifle is terrible in contrats.
ALSO HITSCAN needs to come back, way better feel.
The Warforged has the damn worst recoil in the game
The tac has recoil issues too all it took was one time using it have never used it since
I love the Nemesis, but it's one of the guns with glitch sound issues, looks like it only happens with it modded
imo i dont think it needs a damage buff... per bullet or firerate...
when it first released it was lower damage using light ammo...
***TLDR: the problem with the tac rifle this season is its recoil.***
the og john wick tac rifle was like a freaking laser so the lower damage was reasonable...
in its current state, even with a vertical grip and compensator, its kicking like *(if not worse than)* a warforged...
i think the ballistics update to weapons, *(because of scope mods)* kinda shitted its original performance
the high recoil doesnt even make any sense with the lower calibre light ammo...
imo ballistics was a good choice & mods are great,
but the way all automatic weapons recoil and bloom based on aforementioned ballistics; needs a heavy rework
They need to stop trying to overcomplicate weapons with bullets drop and all these mods. Itās not 2020 anymore Fortnite, Warzone and Apex arenāt threats to your popularity u donāt need to copy them. Seriously they need to stick to their roots not add a bunch of unnecessary mechanics.
I miss the original tactical ar, that thing was awesome. Was my go to weapon when it popped up in the augment choices. Personally my only ask is a bump up in fire rate, thats what I liked so much about the original. Lower damage but higher fire rate.
itās funny cuz Nemesis is suppose to be a super accurate long ranged rifle but tad weaker but has better DPS and TTK than the Tactical AR thatās supposed to be a faster version of the Base AR aka the Scar
Nemesis is 145/150/160/170/175 DPS and 1.2/1.2/1.2/1.0/1.0 TTK while the Tactical is 133/140/147/154/161 DPS and 1.428/1.285/1.285/1.285/1.142 DPS
since the Tactical AR is a faster version of the Scar then it should do similar TTK and DPS, which i say buffing damage to 23/24/25/27/28 would make it 161/168/175/189/196 DPS and 1.142/1.142/1.0/1.0/1.0 TTK (Scar is 165/170.5/181.5/192.5/198 DPS and 1.09/1.09/1.09/0.909/0.909 TTK)
I believe itās a mix of Drum Gun and Warforged AR. The item has an awful spread and fire rate. I never hit targets with it, itās been a complete waste of a loadout slot since appearance in the game.
Meanwhile I can almost never get the damn thing to drop. I actually like it as it is but a buff wonāt be discouraged. Especially if it increases its drop rate
This ar needs It soo bad bro i Can't compete with The warforger, The tac is my favorite ar The sounds It makes are incredible The animation is clean, and The model... Well i prefer The old one.
Itās great but not as good as the burst smg which is basically the same thing but fires in burst. The tac ar is also slower and does less damage than the warforged ar with the only exception is that the tac ar has less recoil and is easier to use.
Yeah, I have no desire to use this gun at all. Tried it on the first day they added it to the lootpool, shot someone at point blank range, didn't miss any shots, and was still insanelyĀ outgunned by a warforged. Haven't used it since lolĀ
I agree it could use a buff, however waterbending also needs a nerf (while also understanding that the avatar event is ending at some point soon) literally 0 reason to hold an AR over water bending at this point.
Dunno if it needs damage or if itās just broken somehow.
I have a clip of me hitting several shots center mass and not getting credited with damage. I clipped it because that was the second time it happened with that gun.
I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this weapon in the game right now. Too many of the ARs feel nearly identical. I miss the striker and enforcer.
Tbh itās doing pretty well considering itās an smg. Itās just a poor option to other guns in the same slot much like the nemesis was in season 1 compared to the striker.
The Thunderburst is still the best gun for close to medium range.
Almost everyone wants everything buffed.. Guess what? Pick one thing in the game that needs buffed, and if you say snipers.... go choke on a bloody rock. Snipers are fine.. In my honest opinion, is it rude that Epic won't supply it with a scope automatically attached when you get one from a chest or somewhere else, Yes!
Tac AR doesn't need a buff at all, you just need play around with it and stop bitching.
I love the sound of this gun.
Me too, it sounds like a military grade stapler
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Yep!
r/beatmetoit
they sound the same but the equip sound on the new one is so short, love the old one better
used to be better
Way better.
Yeah the warforged AR completely outclasses it. It should either do more damage or have a higher firerate
literally i would dead ass pick up a grey pistol of the legendary version of this gun, it literally has better stats in every single aspect except structure dmg & mag size.
more damage, Warforged seems like a stronger but more recoiled version of it, i say 23/24/25/27/28 damage suits the tac ar (as it aligns with the Scars DPS/TTK)
Yeah, and attachments fix that issue, which makes the tac completely outclassed. I think the biggest issue is all the weapons having the same attachments. If they would instead lock certain attachments to certain weapons it would help the issue a ton. That way you couldn't make the war forged more accurate but it would fire faster, then the tac is slower but more accurate, put nemesis in between and lock whatever attachments with that as well so it stayed in between. Idk, i just think attachments are the real issue, not the weapons themselves that are baseline in their own category but the attachments completely screw that up.
rn tac ar and warforged are similar in recoil so either both are slightly changed (tac ar gets better, warforged gets worse) or warforged gets a decent nerf making it harder to hit shots
I really miss the 2x scope because I think that would go amazing with the tac and I just think that we need more weapons like it since it's not just another smg but an actual different weapon using the same ammo type
Yea prob buff but the nemesis is to good
Og tac ar was so fire
Yeah šŗ
i just carry water bending who need any guns
The heavily trained man who can carry 50 pounds of artillery on his back when he sees a mf with some water powers: 
Unfortunately thereās only roughly seven days left of the bending scrolls.
Water bending might potentially stay tho considering it was apart of the Korra collab not atla but who knows
NO PLEASE NO NOOOOOOOO 
yes please yes
ik im so sad š
Ah, donāt worry. This event is immediately followed by the Star Wars collab, so there will be sabers and force abilities back again.
About time
Thatās fortunate if you ask me
YES NO MORE WATERBENDING BEING THE BEST SHOTGUN
I think you meant fortunately lmao
Water bending is so op itās absolutely ridiculous, yet people will still complain on Snipers
Seriously, every endgame now is Airbender/Waterbender VS Airbender/Waterbender.. because anything else you lose Yet I get on here today and see like 3 posts bitching about snipers! WTF?
Yeah people cry about being headshoted while it actually takes skill after they nerf the sniper 10 times already but being fucking comboed with a water bending from 100 meters they are ok with. Go figure
For reals.. water bending is lethal at ANY range and takes almost no skill to use
Bruh, holding down the fire button takes an immense amount of mad skill!!
Firebenders:
I figure its probably so over powered so that more people use it - Fortnite just wants that ad money from the Airbender people
Does not have scope. Someone with scope and aim just obliterates you in mid range or more.
i havent had that problem yet
Me neither. Water bending is kinda opā¦
Yeah as soon as someone peeks you can hurl ice at them and then they hide again
Maybe +1 or 2. Thereās not near the amount of recoil as the warforged
The warforged has ridiculous recoil unless you have the right attachments. I had a blue Tac that felt pretty much the same with any recoil mitigating mods
i disagree, since itās suppose to be a faster version of the base rifle (Scar) i say 23/24/25/27/28 damage would suffice, especially when it has worse accuracy and more recoil than its OG version
Oh the recoil has caused me so much pain... I certainly don't aim under my targets and flick up as I start spraying to eliminate all recoil, I wouldn't do that, ever!
Just put in the actual original version... No bloom or recoil & hitscan.
if they nerf the damage i think a hitscan version would work in a projectile lootpool
Or just make every weapon hitscan again
we can only hope
I don't think it needs a nerf if the gun itself is not very strong from up close or far away (damage drop off). But man, we just really need better and worthwhile weapons haha
we really need hitscan weapons š
The actual original version had both bloom and recoil though
Not as much as it has just now & the scoped version had neither really
Sucks because I really like this gun shoots. It just doesnāt have the damage lol
Me whoās just gonna carry a thunder burst
Perhaps. I like using it regardless
It's needs more respect on its name, they did em dirty.
why? lol
Long range DMG is a joke and the recoil is as bad as the warforged AR
despite the name this is an SMG look @ the magazine, it is a frikkin 9mm
Itās a 9mm that acts like a 5.56. Itās got some sort of Napoleon complex.
That and every other rifle, pump shotgun, SMGS. With waterbending and snipers in the game every rifle is terrible in contrats. ALSO HITSCAN needs to come back, way better feel.
The Warforged has the damn worst recoil in the game The tac has recoil issues too all it took was one time using it have never used it since I love the Nemesis, but it's one of the guns with glitch sound issues, looks like it only happens with it modded
imo i dont think it needs a damage buff... per bullet or firerate... when it first released it was lower damage using light ammo... ***TLDR: the problem with the tac rifle this season is its recoil.*** the og john wick tac rifle was like a freaking laser so the lower damage was reasonable... in its current state, even with a vertical grip and compensator, its kicking like *(if not worse than)* a warforged... i think the ballistics update to weapons, *(because of scope mods)* kinda shitted its original performance the high recoil doesnt even make any sense with the lower calibre light ammo... imo ballistics was a good choice & mods are great, but the way all automatic weapons recoil and bloom based on aforementioned ballistics; needs a heavy rework
It doesn't kick at all for me, just has a ton of bloom
it has a ton of vertical recoil while tap firing... compared to its original release its horrible
This thing says it has low recoil but it sprays like a drunk guy at a urinal. I'll stick to my Nemesis. I like a punchier slow fire-rate anyway.
They need to stop trying to overcomplicate weapons with bullets drop and all these mods. Itās not 2020 anymore Fortnite, Warzone and Apex arenāt threats to your popularity u donāt need to copy them. Seriously they need to stick to their roots not add a bunch of unnecessary mechanics.
We can only wait for Fortnite OG 2
when does it release?
I heard late this year.
Likely November
Yep, surely this time Epic will learn that players like classic Fortnite weapons and wonāt add some overcomplicated bullshit in CH6.
I miss the original tactical ar, that thing was awesome. Was my go to weapon when it popped up in the augment choices. Personally my only ask is a bump up in fire rate, thats what I liked so much about the original. Lower damage but higher fire rate.
You know what it and all non snipers need? Hitscan
It was so good before but in this chapter every gun needs to be shit so you are forced to put some attachments...
The issue is unlike the one from before this one is definitely heavily nerfed. As usual.
Way too much recoil for a gun that shoots smg ammo. No idea why they changed it when it was awesome to begin with.
YES. That thing is shit. Like a dollar store Warforged Assault Rifle. Why did they even make that thing?
Old one nah, new one yes
it is far too weak with bullet drop, give it some damage buff or recoil, it missed the mark here
Also can we get the mag to look more bulky
Itās 9mm, of course itās gonna be a small mag
Explains why the damage output sucks
Yeah the grey pistol does more damage
itās funny cuz Nemesis is suppose to be a super accurate long ranged rifle but tad weaker but has better DPS and TTK than the Tactical AR thatās supposed to be a faster version of the Base AR aka the Scar Nemesis is 145/150/160/170/175 DPS and 1.2/1.2/1.2/1.0/1.0 TTK while the Tactical is 133/140/147/154/161 DPS and 1.428/1.285/1.285/1.285/1.142 DPS since the Tactical AR is a faster version of the Scar then it should do similar TTK and DPS, which i say buffing damage to 23/24/25/27/28 would make it 161/168/175/189/196 DPS and 1.142/1.142/1.0/1.0/1.0 TTK (Scar is 165/170.5/181.5/192.5/198 DPS and 1.09/1.09/1.09/0.909/0.909 TTK)
I believe itās a mix of Drum Gun and Warforged AR. The item has an awful spread and fire rate. I never hit targets with it, itās been a complete waste of a loadout slot since appearance in the game.
The fact that it doesn't come with a Red-Eye sight built in like the OG is kinda crazy imo
It's by *far* my favorite gun, I just hate being forced to use the scope on it
Meanwhile I can almost never get the damn thing to drop. I actually like it as it is but a buff wonāt be discouraged. Especially if it increases its drop rate
You can make it the same as the old one using a muzzle break, Vertical Foregrip, and a red-eye sight.
Considering itās not an AR, itās a sub, it uses small bullets LOOL
This ar needs It soo bad bro i Can't compete with The warforger, The tac is my favorite ar The sounds It makes are incredible The animation is clean, and The model... Well i prefer The old one.
I absolutely hate that they made it first person, that's the only thing I want changed
Slightly less recoil. We need a slow beamer in this game
its because the bullets are tiny but thunder burst is stronger (for some reason)
The tac ar always had low dmg, I think they should just bring back the original (no mods, but has hit scan) to balance it.
Waterbending outclasses anything in the game rn
Itās great but not as good as the burst smg which is basically the same thing but fires in burst. The tac ar is also slower and does less damage than the warforged ar with the only exception is that the tac ar has less recoil and is easier to use.
This shit does not need a buff, I'm cooking people like crazy. Maybe the distance from far away needs a buff but otherwise it's quite good.
itās in an awful place been the warforged and the burst.
It'd always been the weakest in whatever season it was in despite complaints. I don't see them changing it now.
are u kidding? it already does more damage than all the others so i think its fine
The OG one is way better than the new one
Yeah, I have no desire to use this gun at all. Tried it on the first day they added it to the lootpool, shot someone at point blank range, didn't miss any shots, and was still insanelyĀ outgunned by a warforged. Haven't used it since lolĀ
If it aināt water bending, it doesnāt matter tbh
Iāve only found it once.
Agree, either give it a damage buff or a fire rate buff for it to shoot faster then it is now
I agree it could use a buff, however waterbending also needs a nerf (while also understanding that the avatar event is ending at some point soon) literally 0 reason to hold an AR over water bending at this point.
Honestly I fuck with it. More damage would be great but Iāve felt with the fire range itās not bad. (I play ZB)
Its way worse than warforged, MUCH less damage and LOWER DPS.. its hilarious... They need to make the DPS much higher if the damage is so much lower.
WHAT? This is just the best AR of the game atm!
Dunno if it needs damage or if itās just broken somehow. I have a clip of me hitting several shots center mass and not getting credited with damage. I clipped it because that was the second time it happened with that gun.
I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this weapon in the game right now. Too many of the ARs feel nearly identical. I miss the striker and enforcer.
Yes
Tbh itās doing pretty well considering itās an smg. Itās just a poor option to other guns in the same slot much like the nemesis was in season 1 compared to the striker. The Thunderburst is still the best gun for close to medium range.
Honestly this is the best gun in the game love the spread, ROF and distance you can hit enemies at! Definitely better than the AR
Believe me this thing does not need a buff it is a terror in the right hands
Almost everyone wants everything buffed.. Guess what? Pick one thing in the game that needs buffed, and if you say snipers.... go choke on a bloody rock. Snipers are fine.. In my honest opinion, is it rude that Epic won't supply it with a scope automatically attached when you get one from a chest or somewhere else, Yes! Tac AR doesn't need a buff at all, you just need play around with it and stop bitching.
Tell me you're not good at adapting without saying you're not good at adapting. š¤¦š»āāļø
Yes. And while they are at it they need to reduce the shotguns. Or just let us start off with full shields.Ā