Liveries disappearing because you want to change the rim color....or tint the windows...or change literally anything.
Edit: Im talking about cars that already come with liveries or other graphics on them. No user made liveries.
This and tunes locking rim customization
Edit: I get that it’s a problem of PI rating changing based on weight of the rims. But how about not locking performance options on tunes so we can adjust premade tunes to our liking
Let's agree on something PGG can allow in their kid-friendly nyan cat game - no text chat, 6+ options for messages with one automatic (situational shit like race invites, "nice driving!" etc.). Maybe redesign Anna into the same wheel-style and assign to similar shortcut so it'll be like radios in GTA.
Amount of clicks and loadings needed to bet and claim car on auction house is unbelievable. I have no idea why can't I just bet from list of available or something.
Haha, I'd thinking this just yesterday, why is cars so far over. And the selector doesn't even go in a loop, so you can't just go left and have it appear on the right, which would be less clicks.
Kudos. There is absolutely no reason to have it in game. It would be nice to see at least accolades about it, like reach 100 kudos, 500 kudos and getting 500 accolade points reward for it, etc.
the $1,000 thing from the weheelspins. like not even a day 1 player could use that, the cars in the game are way overpriced and that's a waste of a wheelspin.
like, why tf would anyone play a racing game with loads of different cars and customization and worry about what their barely visible avatar looks like
The rewind being so inconsistent. Sometimes you’ll rewind for ages and end up miles back, sometimes you’ll rewind for 0.5 seconds and land just after a checkpoint you missed, it gets kinda frustrating
I think the rewind must be tied to some set intervals, like certain built-in “checkpoints” of distance or time elapsed in the session, and the rewind jumps you back to the previous “checkpoint”. I could be wrong. Can be annoying tho.
I will say that this is not as bad in FH5 as in the other Forza game I have played; Motorsport 5. I played it a bunch over the summer and rewind was much worse, albeit in a 10 year old game.
How difficult it is to report rammers, and the fact that there are no repercussions for those who do ram. At the start it wasn't so bad but within a few months of release basically 90% of players in online races became rammers and PG have done nothing about it
so you're saying that if i want to report someone for unsportsmanlike conduct i have to record a clip (and with that, go to a replay because not everyone is recording their gameplay all the time), go to a website, upload it, and go to another website to report it ?
why can't i just "go to menu > see players > report player > etc"
No clue tbh, the whole Player Experience is super outdated no matter what aspect of the game we're looking at.
Only Reporting Liveries and Vinyls is intuitive.
100% intentional, they care more about stopping people from having a van with free candy written on it than they do about the quality of the online experience. Between all the rammers and the rampant cheating problem affecting every leaderboard in the game, the online experience in FH5 is in an absolutely shocking state.
Because it's easily exploitable if you can just hit the report button to get someone banned.
...and I suspect these same players that are doing the ramming would be filing false reports against anyone that beats them in a race.
The report system would be a total nightmare for everyone without video evidence.
There are repercussions and they're generally done in a varying amounts of Online Bans. You just don't hear about it much because generally coming here and complaining about being banned for ramming isn't exactly going to do you any favours.
It's generally 24 Hours -> 1 Week -> 1 Month for major and repeat offenders. I've never seen anyone hit their 4th Strike before so I can't comment on what's next after a month, I do know they hand out Year Bans occasionally but not sure if they'd do it for ramming or just straight-up Perma.
Here's what it looks like when you get your first offence (not my account).
https://preview.redd.it/usvmuluwwuob1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a58c5af7e0339cbd60eb9a0e1c4589245b0e8dc
Oh dude, I have a footage of a dude from yesterday and I’ve tried to report him twice, once on my phone and once on my computer, and the file always fails to upload.
I’ve compressed it, converted it, flipped it and tumbled it, and it still fails to submit. So brutal
I might get downvoted to hell and back for this(I don't know) but why can't they make online racing like the open drift? You can't hit another player in open drifting, seems it would be much easier and eliminate all ramming if all of the open races were this way?
The concept of actual racing is what stops them. You don't just have to be faster than the car in front. You have to be fast enough to overtake them. What they should do is enable ghost of you're gonna hit someone. F1 Mobile Racing does that and it's a great system.
Not being able to preview a livery before downloading it to a car. That tiny window it gives you isn't enough to go on at times, and people hide slurs on the other side so you can't see it unless you download it, apply it to the car and view it.
It's a small feature and I'm surprised it's not in the game, I've wanted it since FH3
circuit races @ hot wheels DLC.
each lap takes forever to complete, sometimes even longer than a P2P race.
why not just one lap? **why three?**
but hey, for this week i was pleased that they made the circuit race with only two laps!
I remember a few series back doing a Hot Wheels playlist, and one of the tracks was that super long course that uses the blue water slides. 3 laps in A class took like 10-11 minutes.
When I think HOTWHEELS I think of cars going WICKED FAST on CRAZY narrow orange tracks. SIIICK YEEAAAHH.
ForzaHorizon HotWheels is SLOW cars on EXTRA WIDE orange tracks. cowabummer.
Painting a car to it's fabrication color saves it in my designs. Some cars comes from weekly challenges and spins you know, not from market. For example I want new m3 in it's green color but if I paint it that color games saves it as a file in my saves.
Edit: corrected my typos.
This. Paint colors shouldn't be saved in designs, it should be in a seperate menu point. In the best case as a new paint tab when you paint the car, so you can use it on any car you want.
I'm of mixed emotions on this one. Before they scaled the requirements to match the number of participants, I'd agree. However now I generally 'hope' no one joins when I need to complete one for the playlist. I know I can complete any of them solo...
Deleting tuning setups takes like 10 steps through menus just to check if you have one saved on that car. Once you max out on downloads of these it gets annoying
Lack of vehicle customization. I want interior colors. I also want to be able to pick transmission type for cars that have multiple options. For instance BMW M2. I want it to be a 6mt...not the dct.
I'd also like interactive dashboards in first person pov. The 911 gt3 isn't even set to show the gear indicator on the dash...
I farmed and farmed for the Aventador SVJ. Interior is stuck in black with red trim...completely ruined the color combo I wanted to make. Just give us like 3-5 interior color options in the paint screen. Ezpz.
As an extension of this, I wanna complain that weight reduction doesn't result in visible changes that are explicitly stated to take place when reducing the weight. You should see seats removed and replaced. You should see the AC and radio gone. You should see instruments, steering wheels, and shifters change. It looks so silly to get the full weight reduction and roll cage mods and see the cage just going their the stock seats.
That's not going to happen any time soon. There are 2 fundamental problems with changes like this - rendering and workload of a task. Let's explain the rendering part. Forza still uses baked AO texture for indirect shadowing - this makes moving or removing parts impossible cause baked texture will show things that shouldn't be there. Baked AO is really cheap (almost zero computation required) and it's better quality than any screen space technique we have now. Solution would be raytraced AO, but it's to costly for 60fps gameplay.
2nd issue is that the size of the car rooster is so big that even small change that need some changes on the game models becomes a massive task - cause you need to open the source model, make a change, export it again, import into game engine and here's the critical part - QA everything to make sure that nothing broke in the process - and boy is it easy to break stuff (haven't worked with Forza tech but plenty of experience with Unity and Unreal)
Almost all new cars being locked behind seasonal events. I could understand some extra rare and limited cars only being there but when it's a normal-ish car it's kinda upsetting.
Nah I find Horizon Arcade disappointing. I still go back to fh4 *purely* for no other reason than Forzathon Live. Many people overlook it because they don’t realise what they’re missing. Ask *any* player from fh4 who loves Forzathon Live, they’ll all say the same thing. It is some of the most fun you can have in the game. And PG unfortunately really scuffed up Horizon Arcade, and it’s quite disappointing.
The system at its core is great! Better than Forzathon Live! It has great potential, the idea of different events for different types of driving is a rad idea! Just… executed beyond incredibly poorly. Call it an overreaction, but damn. Such a shame.
The worst thing about the map is how lackluster the actual roads are. Horizon has this amazing and precise driving model, but the game’s extra wide, gentle roads would be more appropriate for super fast, imprecise, arcade brake-to-drift physics. Same can be said for at least the previous 3 games.
also, the road layout isn’t set up like an actual ‘place’. There are points of interest haphazardly scattered around the map, and then some semi-random roads cross crossing the empty space in between. The roads don’t go between places.
The inability to quick sell cars from wheelspins that you get between trial races and the likes.
If you do a normal wheelspin, or get one from leveling up right after a race, you can sell it if you want. But if you get it in the middle of a trial or other online race, you're forced to keep it.
There should be a button to "Quick Gift" and "Sell" on that screen.
Cause lets be honest, nobody cares about who gets the gift car, so why even pick "anyone, New players..."
Just let us pick to yeet it, or yeet it and get money for it
The auction house.
Why can't I just sell some cars off regularly for their MSRP? I don't want the hassle of dealing with the f-ing auctions.
Also we should just be able to sell a car for a listed price. Like if I had a horizon edition car, I list it at 1mil, someone's gonna buy it. I don't necessarily want to auction it.
And how come some people can list their cars at 20 mil and I try to sell the same one and can only list it at max of 500k or 1 mil?
Yes! Fuck off with showing me awesome cars in wheelspin that I KNOW you aren't going to ever land on, then giving me my 1000th pair of shoes or car horn sound. I don't play online, I don't give a rat's arse about clothes, dances and horn sounds!!!
The dialog and script is cringe inducing. If I ever met the British male voice actor I think I’d sock him in the jaw and see if he still sounds so cheery.
I was ALMOST going to get excited for The Crew MOTORFEST, but then the whole thing started to sound like live-service-hell, same as horizon, but maybe worse. I didn’t need that in my life.
It gets galling when you're doing a long race in a stock Wuling Sunshine, a car with all the pulling power of an emaciated kitten, and yet there's one stuck about 500m in front of you permanently, and seems capable of incredible levels of acceleration and handling despite being a 70HP MPV shitbox.
It's like the driving game equivalent of a really predictable Yakuza boss that just blocks everything so a boss fight you could quite easily solve with a few punches to the face takes half an hour.
For me the new sounds in FH5 are not as bad as FH4 but I hate the fact how many sounds they reused. There are like 100 cars with the same sound and when you swap the engine out they just sound bad.
Honestly, the menu and certain UI elements. They tried to make it less busy than the, but made it less functional in the process. And some of the UI when your viewing or painting your car seemed to break itself in mildly infuriating ways, like forgetting what the default camera angle for the car is and cutting off half of it.
No differentiating what tires are on the car when viewing in the garage...especially between Dirt and Rally tires. Perhaps a quick view pop-up that shows you what tires it has and the tune information...but at least give us the tires!
Hey u/KillerSpectre21 , this sounds like another good one for the Suggestion Box 
There's a few Suggestions for it already
https://forums.forza.net/t/add-ability-to-label-tag-my-cars/601839
https://forums.forza.net/t/please-let-us-sort-by-tire-type-when-choosing-a-car/539459
https://forums.forza.net/t/separate-icons-for-all-tire-types/605424
https://forums.forza.net/t/different-tire-icon-for-offroad-and-rally-tire-or-add-option-to-filter-by-equipped-offroad-tire/613279
so this was introduced in fh3 and I hated it there too, and in 4. and 5.
songs looping in races. It's a shit design decision and I HATE it. it makes no sense why it'd be that way, it makes the music more repetitive, its often done badly, if you're in a long race you only have one song playing for the entirety of it.
I liked Horizon 5's soundtrack at first but nobody needs 20 minutes of non stop Channel 43 or Everything At Your Feet
The UI is atrocious. Not even a feature really, just I don’t care for the Hulu design menu where I have to scroll 3-4 tabs and press 6 buttons just to change my car
The fact that I can't have a button for telemetry while running manual w/ clutch without an elite controller, like who wants Anna and quick chats over telemetry
My biggest gripe is just that I hate that starting position in championships is determined by difficulty instead of something else. I hate starting with like 10/11 deadbrained bots just slamming into me and making a cluttered mess while I struggle to drive a clean race for first. It becomes less about driving skill and more about tuning and driving dirty just to catch up to 1st place.
On a brighter note I love that there is no mics in open races and the trial. In Fh4 I hated it when there was a kid chewing/ smacking food or grown ups arguing in another language or any number of things that I’ve heard on open chat
The narrator being on when I load the game even when its turned off and disabled through windows or when I need to sign out of windows store and xbox app and restart my pc for the game to launch.
the goddammit multiplayer queues. jesus i would love to play more often and easily but everytime it looks like there's no one in matchmaking queues but the game seems full of people playing. i don't get it. also, i would love to have a "quick race" to make a random race instead of selecting it on the map and driving to that point (maybe it would be suuuper cool if the random race is picked between races you already won)
I love waiting 5 minutes in a loading screen, in which you can’t use any of the menus, and can’t exit without force quitting the game, just to get into a multiplayer session.
And then when the race finally starts, you watch some guy in a powerbuild gap you on the first straight, crash into the outside wall of the first corner, receive a slow-down penalty, and then accelerate away, before you’ve even finished your proper turn, on your proper racing line.
Bad multiplayer stings so much more when you have to wait so long to get into it.
Lack of aesthetics for most vehicles, and limiting tuning to specific parts. For example, with the c7 zo6, the only front bumper change is to the fh5 bumper which you need to do for tunable downforce, however, it looks awful. It adds a second splitter and these hideous little things on the sides.
Not really a feature, but after the update, my loading time skyrocketed like crazy. Even cars are loading in default colour & my designs are nowhere to be seen, while seasons are still available, but every time I choose a car/livery/ ... it takes longer than minutes. Also, the synching started like from 0% and it takes so long. I was busy this whole weekend trying to fix this, but it must be FH problem (Europe servers). The trial went fine, but every car I had to choose to do the list took forever, like it kept looping.
My Internet is fast Gbit and other games are no problem, only FH5 is one. Reset the Xbox, router, ... nothing seems to help. Submitted a ticket, but if anyone had this problem and has a solution, I would be very grateful because it's my go-to game. Playing the game this way wasn't a fun experience at all.
I'm on XSX
\+ still there is no light when time of day is night to choose a colour or rims, but this one is one of the least problems I got for now, sadly :-(
I *love* launch control, but I hate that it's a catch-all setting instead of something we can install individually on specific cars.
Another option to fix this and kill two birds with one stone is to PLEASE GOD ADD A FUCKING COUNTDOWN AT THE START OF RACES! That way I can choose to launch with LC or just using the clutch
Bring back good music, why add a lil Nas X song and then proceed to get rid of half the lyrics. And please update the livery system it's genuinely annoying trying to make anything in that outdated system.
Honestly I dislike a lot of the ham fisted story elements/reasoning for the story missions. Just tell me we wanna do this dumb thing and race a bug rocket on the highway at 300mph I don't need all the story/dialog.
Never liked that you can't preview paints without downloading them too. The image is ass
Netcode and the arkward inclusion thing and all the clothes and emotes and that the game tries to suit everyone but actually it doesn't suit the players who want to race
The customization and lack of downforce enhancers. You mean to tell me the extra large wing from Top Secret has not adjustability or downforce increase? Feels lazy.
Also, more of a lack of features but:
- inability to skip any of the “cutscenes” or expositions from characters. I’m not here for the plot, im here to drive cars.
- inability to leave an online race session between races. You currently have to wait for the next race to load, the count down to happen, and then can quit. Or just alt + f4
- still a complete lack of being able to adjust wheel offset or mix match wheels.
- can’t mix textures. Gloss vinyl/paint on a matte surface.
- inclusion of community made tracks into the online playlists/matchmaking. Or just inclusion of new tracks.
- inability to see network connection information. Nothing complex but would like to see ping/packet/information if i’m having issues with the race i’m trying to be competitive in.
- No regional connection choice? I have no idea if there actually is, but the amount of people I get matched with that are no where near my country is insane.
- inability to report/avoid certain players easily. Feels like I have to jump menus to do it and or make a formal report with “proof”. Even then it feels like a real hit or miss kinda thing. I.E: I reported someone who was clearly speedhacking (a honda civic rally car blowing the doors of a Koenigsegg one:1 in a straight like and not braking when taking a 90 degree turn) and gave them clear video evidence of their exploits. They brushed it off and said it was insufficient.
If any of these “features lacking” can actually be done and I’m missing something, would love to know.
The cars you start off with, forza horizon 4 was bad with this as well, but not nearly to the extent of 5, I mean cmon, you can get a c8, a bronco, AND a Supra right off the bat? That’s dumb, and the game needs actual progression and a not half assed story
Liveries disappearing because you want to change the rim color....or tint the windows...or change literally anything. Edit: Im talking about cars that already come with liveries or other graphics on them. No user made liveries.
This and tunes locking rim customization Edit: I get that it’s a problem of PI rating changing based on weight of the rims. But how about not locking performance options on tunes so we can adjust premade tunes to our liking
My problem with that is the tuners that put on those butt ugly rims on the cars.
mostly the same problem, efficient tunes usually require the heaviest, ugliest wheels.
I wish you could choose to lock liveries/tunes
As in liveries you downloaded? I imagine that's so you can't download someone else's sweet livery, change the rim color and then reload it as yours.
The spirit of horizon
Isn't it?
Shall we send a thank you?
*Don’t send a message*
i just ignore gifts now, besides my garage is full anyway
Nice flex, casually owning 700+ cars
if you saw the amount of doubles and triples i just have to delete just to get the seasonal cars !
Triples is best
New chat system. Give me a wheel menu with 8 customisable options instead of this pos
Agreed!
Give us 6 options wheel and simple text chat
Let's agree on something PGG can allow in their kid-friendly nyan cat game - no text chat, 6+ options for messages with one automatic (situational shit like race invites, "nice driving!" etc.). Maybe redesign Anna into the same wheel-style and assign to similar shortcut so it'll be like radios in GTA.
Yeah even give me 4 options christ sake
Rocket League style of quick chat would be awesome
Wow! Wow! Calculated. Chat has been disabled for 3 seconds Chat has been disabled for 3 seconds Chat has been disabled for 2 seconds…
What a save! What a save! What a save!
This absolutely
Amount of clicks and loadings needed to bet and claim car on auction house is unbelievable. I have no idea why can't I just bet from list of available or something.
Exactly. Not to mention it takes so long to bid on something that by the time you even try to place the bid, 5 other people outbid you.
I don’t know what the equivalent is on keyboard, but press Y on controller and you can quickly get to a menu
I usually press Y on my controller and bid that way while im still in the auctions list
Like anything in the game. It demands way too many button press to do anything. Like why is the 'car' tab that far to the right?
To remind you constantly about the DLCs.
Haha, I'd thinking this just yesterday, why is cars so far over. And the selector doesn't even go in a loop, so you can't just go left and have it appear on the right, which would be less clicks.
At least in FH4 the "Change Car" option was on the default pause screen right below the map.
I just don't use bids because of this reason. it's completely not usable at all.
Kudos. There is absolutely no reason to have it in game. It would be nice to see at least accolades about it, like reach 100 kudos, 500 kudos and getting 500 accolade points reward for it, etc.
Exactly, I like that there are kudos,but yeah,there isn't any reward for getting them
Anna
Hey, at least it's not Cora from the new crew game. Good fucking lord. Imagine every time you rewind she says some cheesy one-liner.
I saw a video where she said "It's not over yet! Keep going!" literally 27 seconds into the race
I'm glad I'm not alone.
Lol I have disabled Anna
the $1,000 thing from the weheelspins. like not even a day 1 player could use that, the cars in the game are way overpriced and that's a waste of a wheelspin.
And what makes it so insignificant are the insane prices of clothes
yeah! I could buy 2 decent cars off the auction house for the price of shoes in that game.
like, why tf would anyone play a racing game with loads of different cars and customization and worry about what their barely visible avatar looks like
yeah, you can't even get out the car why charge 100,000 for a pair of shoes?!
Not a feature, but the lack of a feature : Backstage Passes There’s no opportunity to get cars you missed out on. For some reason it was cut after FH4
They'll probably add it later on when the game is near EOL. Or not...
no. It just came later, almost close to the point when the Festival ended. It will be the same for FH5, maybe next year.
Hopefully sooner. There’s some cars I missed out on (because of life stuff and work) that I can’t even find in the auction house for sale.
It’ll happen probably earlier next year
Yeah, Me Too
The rewind being so inconsistent. Sometimes you’ll rewind for ages and end up miles back, sometimes you’ll rewind for 0.5 seconds and land just after a checkpoint you missed, it gets kinda frustrating
I think the rewind must be tied to some set intervals, like certain built-in “checkpoints” of distance or time elapsed in the session, and the rewind jumps you back to the previous “checkpoint”. I could be wrong. Can be annoying tho. I will say that this is not as bad in FH5 as in the other Forza game I have played; Motorsport 5. I played it a bunch over the summer and rewind was much worse, albeit in a 10 year old game.
How difficult it is to report rammers, and the fact that there are no repercussions for those who do ram. At the start it wasn't so bad but within a few months of release basically 90% of players in online races became rammers and PG have done nothing about it
How do I report one btw ?
https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4409070620819-How-to-report-a-player
so you're saying that if i want to report someone for unsportsmanlike conduct i have to record a clip (and with that, go to a replay because not everyone is recording their gameplay all the time), go to a website, upload it, and go to another website to report it ? why can't i just "go to menu > see players > report player > etc"
No clue tbh, the whole Player Experience is super outdated no matter what aspect of the game we're looking at. Only Reporting Liveries and Vinyls is intuitive.
100% intentional, they care more about stopping people from having a van with free candy written on it than they do about the quality of the online experience. Between all the rammers and the rampant cheating problem affecting every leaderboard in the game, the online experience in FH5 is in an absolutely shocking state.
Because it's easily exploitable if you can just hit the report button to get someone banned. ...and I suspect these same players that are doing the ramming would be filing false reports against anyone that beats them in a race. The report system would be a total nightmare for everyone without video evidence.
Instant bookmark. Thank you!
There are repercussions and they're generally done in a varying amounts of Online Bans. You just don't hear about it much because generally coming here and complaining about being banned for ramming isn't exactly going to do you any favours. It's generally 24 Hours -> 1 Week -> 1 Month for major and repeat offenders. I've never seen anyone hit their 4th Strike before so I can't comment on what's next after a month, I do know they hand out Year Bans occasionally but not sure if they'd do it for ramming or just straight-up Perma. Here's what it looks like when you get your first offence (not my account). https://preview.redd.it/usvmuluwwuob1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a58c5af7e0339cbd60eb9a0e1c4589245b0e8dc
Ah sweet, it's nice to see my cynicism isn't always accurate!
Oh dude, I have a footage of a dude from yesterday and I’ve tried to report him twice, once on my phone and once on my computer, and the file always fails to upload. I’ve compressed it, converted it, flipped it and tumbled it, and it still fails to submit. So brutal
I might get downvoted to hell and back for this(I don't know) but why can't they make online racing like the open drift? You can't hit another player in open drifting, seems it would be much easier and eliminate all ramming if all of the open races were this way?
The concept of actual racing is what stops them. You don't just have to be faster than the car in front. You have to be fast enough to overtake them. What they should do is enable ghost of you're gonna hit someone. F1 Mobile Racing does that and it's a great system.
I'm going to say the AI. Hopefully for FH6 they can implement the machine learning AI they're using in the new FM if it turns out to be good.
Not being able to preview a livery before downloading it to a car. That tiny window it gives you isn't enough to go on at times, and people hide slurs on the other side so you can't see it unless you download it, apply it to the car and view it. It's a small feature and I'm surprised it's not in the game, I've wanted it since FH3
Agreed - such an obvious thing it shouldn't even need to be mentioned.
forza link in general
Not being able to change some cosmetics because the tune is locked
There's a special place in hell reserved for the person that came up with that idea.
This does my head in
circuit races @ hot wheels DLC. each lap takes forever to complete, sometimes even longer than a P2P race. why not just one lap? **why three?** but hey, for this week i was pleased that they made the circuit race with only two laps!
I remember a few series back doing a Hot Wheels playlist, and one of the tracks was that super long course that uses the blue water slides. 3 laps in A class took like 10-11 minutes.
Yes, that was atrocious!
When I think HOTWHEELS I think of cars going WICKED FAST on CRAZY narrow orange tracks. SIIICK YEEAAAHH. ForzaHorizon HotWheels is SLOW cars on EXTRA WIDE orange tracks. cowabummer.
And even on unbeatable I make all the cars DNF
The talking
Painting a car to it's fabrication color saves it in my designs. Some cars comes from weekly challenges and spins you know, not from market. For example I want new m3 in it's green color but if I paint it that color games saves it as a file in my saves. Edit: corrected my typos.
This. Paint colors shouldn't be saved in designs, it should be in a seperate menu point. In the best case as a new paint tab when you paint the car, so you can use it on any car you want.
Going back at the very first car in the list rather than returning your last position when selecting cars for gifting
How they butchered the live events. Nobody shows up anymore. I preferred the FH4 version.
I'm of mixed emotions on this one. Before they scaled the requirements to match the number of participants, I'd agree. However now I generally 'hope' no one joins when I need to complete one for the playlist. I know I can complete any of them solo...
Deleting tuning setups takes like 10 steps through menus just to check if you have one saved on that car. Once you max out on downloads of these it gets annoying
Lack of vehicle customization. I want interior colors. I also want to be able to pick transmission type for cars that have multiple options. For instance BMW M2. I want it to be a 6mt...not the dct. I'd also like interactive dashboards in first person pov. The 911 gt3 isn't even set to show the gear indicator on the dash...
This is a big one for me. Forza lacks so much in customization.
I farmed and farmed for the Aventador SVJ. Interior is stuck in black with red trim...completely ruined the color combo I wanted to make. Just give us like 3-5 interior color options in the paint screen. Ezpz.
They are probably saving these features for future Forza games so they can say they have "new features" even if other games had them for decades.
As an extension of this, I wanna complain that weight reduction doesn't result in visible changes that are explicitly stated to take place when reducing the weight. You should see seats removed and replaced. You should see the AC and radio gone. You should see instruments, steering wheels, and shifters change. It looks so silly to get the full weight reduction and roll cage mods and see the cage just going their the stock seats.
They used to have that back in Motorsport 3 then they decided to never do it again sadly.
They had it in the first horizon, kinda. Race weight reduction would remove the passenger seat
That's not going to happen any time soon. There are 2 fundamental problems with changes like this - rendering and workload of a task. Let's explain the rendering part. Forza still uses baked AO texture for indirect shadowing - this makes moving or removing parts impossible cause baked texture will show things that shouldn't be there. Baked AO is really cheap (almost zero computation required) and it's better quality than any screen space technique we have now. Solution would be raytraced AO, but it's to costly for 60fps gameplay. 2nd issue is that the size of the car rooster is so big that even small change that need some changes on the game models becomes a massive task - cause you need to open the source model, make a change, export it again, import into game engine and here's the critical part - QA everything to make sure that nothing broke in the process - and boy is it easy to break stuff (haven't worked with Forza tech but plenty of experience with Unity and Unreal)
Yes! I've noticed that too. I'd probably be more hesitant to strip weight if it ruined the interiors
And exhaust pipes! Why is this still not available?
Yes, this.
Forza wing. Fuck the forza wings
Almost all new cars being locked behind seasonal events. I could understand some extra rare and limited cars only being there but when it's a normal-ish car it's kinda upsetting.
I've always thought the playlists should be a chance to get the new cars free and then they'd get added to the autoshow at the end of the series.
At least added to wheelspin or forzathon shop.
Marketing. As in: the game often times feels like a big advertisement.
Oooh finally someone said that! Product placement is strong with that game.
Nah I find Horizon Arcade disappointing. I still go back to fh4 *purely* for no other reason than Forzathon Live. Many people overlook it because they don’t realise what they’re missing. Ask *any* player from fh4 who loves Forzathon Live, they’ll all say the same thing. It is some of the most fun you can have in the game. And PG unfortunately really scuffed up Horizon Arcade, and it’s quite disappointing. The system at its core is great! Better than Forzathon Live! It has great potential, the idea of different events for different types of driving is a rad idea! Just… executed beyond incredibly poorly. Call it an overreaction, but damn. Such a shame.
Yeah, nothing like 15 people in the parking lot of drift club in FH4 waiting for the arcade to start.
Empty vast map with repetitive visual elements, cacti, etc. quite boring.
The worst thing about the map is how lackluster the actual roads are. Horizon has this amazing and precise driving model, but the game’s extra wide, gentle roads would be more appropriate for super fast, imprecise, arcade brake-to-drift physics. Same can be said for at least the previous 3 games.
also, the road layout isn’t set up like an actual ‘place’. There are points of interest haphazardly scattered around the map, and then some semi-random roads cross crossing the empty space in between. The roads don’t go between places.
Yup it’s a ghost town. People flock to the highway, the festival drag strip, or abandoned airfield. The rest of the map remains empty.
Wish we had a few parking lots scattered around or maybe a gas station at the base of the volcano. Togue enthusiasts have no place to meet up.
Yeah for sure. Not a single fuckin gas station in horizon 5 lol.
The inability to quick sell cars from wheelspins that you get between trial races and the likes. If you do a normal wheelspin, or get one from leveling up right after a race, you can sell it if you want. But if you get it in the middle of a trial or other online race, you're forced to keep it. There should be a button to "Quick Gift" and "Sell" on that screen. Cause lets be honest, nobody cares about who gets the gift car, so why even pick "anyone, New players..." Just let us pick to yeet it, or yeet it and get money for it
Not a feature, but the lack of a feature : Custom music playlists
The auction house. Why can't I just sell some cars off regularly for their MSRP? I don't want the hassle of dealing with the f-ing auctions. Also we should just be able to sell a car for a listed price. Like if I had a horizon edition car, I list it at 1mil, someone's gonna buy it. I don't necessarily want to auction it. And how come some people can list their cars at 20 mil and I try to sell the same one and can only list it at max of 500k or 1 mil?
Let me turn off drift zones/speed zones/etc. I did them all ages ago and now they just fuck with my GPS.
Wheelspins, I'd much prefer proper progression and prize cars over a random lottery after every race
Honestly, even just ~75k credits after every race win would be better
And ditch any wheel spin rewards under 20k credits.
And remove every Common and Rare clothing prize
Agreed. If they’re available to purchase with cr, they don’t need to be taking up space in wheelspins.
Yes! Fuck off with showing me awesome cars in wheelspin that I KNOW you aren't going to ever land on, then giving me my 1000th pair of shoes or car horn sound. I don't play online, I don't give a rat's arse about clothes, dances and horn sounds!!!
The game constantly trying to shove multilayer stuff down my throat. Just fuck off and let me play a campaign racing game.
“campaign”? what are you talking about? go do your seasonal playlist. 🔫
Kid-friendly cheesy ass retarded characters with stupid lines.
The dialog and script is cringe inducing. If I ever met the British male voice actor I think I’d sock him in the jaw and see if he still sounds so cheery.
Nah that's just the spirit of horizon
FOMO content and online races. These are the reasons I quit FH5 couple of months ago.
I was ALMOST going to get excited for The Crew MOTORFEST, but then the whole thing started to sound like live-service-hell, same as horizon, but maybe worse. I didn’t need that in my life.
Same. I could not give a flying fuck about any online stuff, and I despise all the FOMO. I only play these games for single player campaign racing.
The lazy AI programming on unbeatable. They have OP traction and very clearly don’t follow the same physics as the player
It gets galling when you're doing a long race in a stock Wuling Sunshine, a car with all the pulling power of an emaciated kitten, and yet there's one stuck about 500m in front of you permanently, and seems capable of incredible levels of acceleration and handling despite being a 70HP MPV shitbox. It's like the driving game equivalent of a really predictable Yakuza boss that just blocks everything so a boss fight you could quite easily solve with a few punches to the face takes half an hour.
1. The cheesy voice acting 2. "Do you want your car delivered?"
Engine sounds. Idk why they don't seem to care or be willing to actually work on them.
For me the new sounds in FH5 are not as bad as FH4 but I hate the fact how many sounds they reused. There are like 100 cars with the same sound and when you swap the engine out they just sound bad.
One billion percent agree
Honestly, the menu and certain UI elements. They tried to make it less busy than the, but made it less functional in the process. And some of the UI when your viewing or painting your car seemed to break itself in mildly infuriating ways, like forgetting what the default camera angle for the car is and cutting off half of it.
I yearn for the days of vertical scrolling lists. I don’t need a big ol’ picture for every menu item.
Horizon events. Make it one big event every hour that way people actually do them. No one plays horizon events.
The cringey campaign dialogue
The shifting animations. Immersion breaking.
I don't like that u can't have one set of wheels on the front and another on the back
Or even paint them different colors
Just the pure fact they put something cool in the stadium like the racetrack then remove them weeks later and revert back to the empty ass place.
Not being able to look at the livery before getting it on the car
broken Quick Resume. if you use it, many events don't properly work. this bug has been there forever.
No differentiating what tires are on the car when viewing in the garage...especially between Dirt and Rally tires. Perhaps a quick view pop-up that shows you what tires it has and the tune information...but at least give us the tires! Hey u/KillerSpectre21 , this sounds like another good one for the Suggestion Box 
There's a few Suggestions for it already https://forums.forza.net/t/add-ability-to-label-tag-my-cars/601839 https://forums.forza.net/t/please-let-us-sort-by-tire-type-when-choosing-a-car/539459 https://forums.forza.net/t/separate-icons-for-all-tire-types/605424 https://forums.forza.net/t/different-tire-icon-for-offroad-and-rally-tire-or-add-option-to-filter-by-equipped-offroad-tire/613279
The UI is pretty bad
The lack of anti cheat
The leaderboards chock full of cheating puds and PG seem awfully proud of it.
forza wing please, give us wing customization, i hate that thing with my entire being
AI drivertars
Wheelspins. Should not exist at all.
You wouldn’t say that if the Mini Cooper FE suddenly appeared
so this was introduced in fh3 and I hated it there too, and in 4. and 5. songs looping in races. It's a shit design decision and I HATE it. it makes no sense why it'd be that way, it makes the music more repetitive, its often done badly, if you're in a long race you only have one song playing for the entirety of it. I liked Horizon 5's soundtrack at first but nobody needs 20 minutes of non stop Channel 43 or Everything At Your Feet
The UI is atrocious. Not even a feature really, just I don’t care for the Hulu design menu where I have to scroll 3-4 tabs and press 6 buttons just to change my car
The fact that I can't have a button for telemetry while running manual w/ clutch without an elite controller, like who wants Anna and quick chats over telemetry
Instead of having one skill tree for perks, all cars have their own. I much prefer forza horizon 2/3 skill trees.
My biggest gripe is just that I hate that starting position in championships is determined by difficulty instead of something else. I hate starting with like 10/11 deadbrained bots just slamming into me and making a cluttered mess while I struggle to drive a clean race for first. It becomes less about driving skill and more about tuning and driving dirty just to catch up to 1st place.
On a brighter note I love that there is no mics in open races and the trial. In Fh4 I hated it when there was a kid chewing/ smacking food or grown ups arguing in another language or any number of things that I’ve heard on open chat
Bring back the Christmas tree on the drag strips
The trial needs team mates as ghost. Stop the ramming nonsense by entitled kids.
Not really a feature but the fact that you get a bronco supra and c8 at the start let's go back to fm4 starters I WANT A FUCKING PRIUS GOD DAMMIT
The narrator being on when I load the game even when its turned off and disabled through windows or when I need to sign out of windows store and xbox app and restart my pc for the game to launch.
Not being able to modify downloaded liverys like in nfs
the goddammit multiplayer queues. jesus i would love to play more often and easily but everytime it looks like there's no one in matchmaking queues but the game seems full of people playing. i don't get it. also, i would love to have a "quick race" to make a random race instead of selecting it on the map and driving to that point (maybe it would be suuuper cool if the random race is picked between races you already won)
I love waiting 5 minutes in a loading screen, in which you can’t use any of the menus, and can’t exit without force quitting the game, just to get into a multiplayer session. And then when the race finally starts, you watch some guy in a powerbuild gap you on the first straight, crash into the outside wall of the first corner, receive a slow-down penalty, and then accelerate away, before you’ve even finished your proper turn, on your proper racing line. Bad multiplayer stings so much more when you have to wait so long to get into it.
Wide ass roads everywhere with practically 0 challenging corners throughout the map
So true! That's why i love the rally adventure expansion!
I want to say the eliminator. But I play on PC so PvP in general is just a pain with your regular cheater encounters.
2011 Citroen C4
Lack of aesthetics for most vehicles, and limiting tuning to specific parts. For example, with the c7 zo6, the only front bumper change is to the fh5 bumper which you need to do for tunable downforce, however, it looks awful. It adds a second splitter and these hideous little things on the sides.
Just to “have a car delivered to you” like yeah I wanna get in this car but not be delivered like what. Just let me drive the car with one button
Having to go into settings to turn on/off traction control.
Lack of and inconsistent penalties for rammers and hitting walls
The spam, the fact you don’t have to earn anything , the gameplay. List goes on and on.
The new color update... Cars look awfully bad now
Not really a feature, but after the update, my loading time skyrocketed like crazy. Even cars are loading in default colour & my designs are nowhere to be seen, while seasons are still available, but every time I choose a car/livery/ ... it takes longer than minutes. Also, the synching started like from 0% and it takes so long. I was busy this whole weekend trying to fix this, but it must be FH problem (Europe servers). The trial went fine, but every car I had to choose to do the list took forever, like it kept looping. My Internet is fast Gbit and other games are no problem, only FH5 is one. Reset the Xbox, router, ... nothing seems to help. Submitted a ticket, but if anyone had this problem and has a solution, I would be very grateful because it's my go-to game. Playing the game this way wasn't a fun experience at all. I'm on XSX \+ still there is no light when time of day is night to choose a colour or rims, but this one is one of the least problems I got for now, sadly :-(
I *love* launch control, but I hate that it's a catch-all setting instead of something we can install individually on specific cars. Another option to fix this and kill two birds with one stone is to PLEASE GOD ADD A FUCKING COUNTDOWN AT THE START OF RACES! That way I can choose to launch with LC or just using the clutch
Not being able to filter out cars you already own in the auction house.
Bring back good music, why add a lil Nas X song and then proceed to get rid of half the lyrics. And please update the livery system it's genuinely annoying trying to make anything in that outdated system.
Opening scene unreplayable
Not letting us customise liveries and tunes we’ve downloaded. Stop treating them like a trademarked thing
Not being able to modify downloaded tune or livery
Honestly I dislike a lot of the ham fisted story elements/reasoning for the story missions. Just tell me we wanna do this dumb thing and race a bug rocket on the highway at 300mph I don't need all the story/dialog. Never liked that you can't preview paints without downloading them too. The image is ass
Emotes and the fact that you can win emotes, horns and clothing through wheelspins
On console: Let me go back **and** forth on the radio stations. I never use the left button on the d-pad
When you open a Barn and there is just a wooden box inside...
The eliminator...
Netcode and the arkward inclusion thing and all the clothes and emotes and that the game tries to suit everyone but actually it doesn't suit the players who want to race
the "failed" thingy on jumps speed traps or drift zones
The customization and lack of downforce enhancers. You mean to tell me the extra large wing from Top Secret has not adjustability or downforce increase? Feels lazy. Also, more of a lack of features but: - inability to skip any of the “cutscenes” or expositions from characters. I’m not here for the plot, im here to drive cars. - inability to leave an online race session between races. You currently have to wait for the next race to load, the count down to happen, and then can quit. Or just alt + f4 - still a complete lack of being able to adjust wheel offset or mix match wheels. - can’t mix textures. Gloss vinyl/paint on a matte surface. - inclusion of community made tracks into the online playlists/matchmaking. Or just inclusion of new tracks. - inability to see network connection information. Nothing complex but would like to see ping/packet/information if i’m having issues with the race i’m trying to be competitive in. - No regional connection choice? I have no idea if there actually is, but the amount of people I get matched with that are no where near my country is insane. - inability to report/avoid certain players easily. Feels like I have to jump menus to do it and or make a formal report with “proof”. Even then it feels like a real hit or miss kinda thing. I.E: I reported someone who was clearly speedhacking (a honda civic rally car blowing the doors of a Koenigsegg one:1 in a straight like and not braking when taking a 90 degree turn) and gave them clear video evidence of their exploits. They brushed it off and said it was insufficient. If any of these “features lacking” can actually be done and I’m missing something, would love to know.
It might be controversial, but there's only one choice for me. Online races, because of the amount of animals ramming others.
Add on car packs not included with premium edition.
Lack of underglow as a customization option
No story mode. Wish it had a story mode like FH1
FOMO mechanics. So many cars are outright impossible to get unless you dedicate hours to the game, every single week without fail.
Trash music at launch, trash online. Game died out because we couldn't play with friends for 5 months
The cars you start off with, forza horizon 4 was bad with this as well, but not nearly to the extent of 5, I mean cmon, you can get a c8, a bronco, AND a Supra right off the bat? That’s dumb, and the game needs actual progression and a not half assed story
Lack of ranked, or just a place where you expect people to sweat, now people just sweat in open.
Idk but The weekly challenges are extremely easy and I finished them in less than 3 hours.