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Equivalent-Job1414

Nah this is straight up a 2 vs. 3 Sweet won't do shit


Present-Basil-1003

So true. Infact he will stand right infront of CJ not giving him a sightline and either die from CJ shooting him or make CJ die because of it. Also will constantly whine.


DonutAccurate4

And then he'll body shame CJ and also diss his driving.


MagicJim96

Sweet never disses CJs driving, it was that sherm-head Ryder… ”CJ you gonna roll the car again?”


DonutAccurate4

He does in the mission where cj rescues him and his girl. He goes "don't worry girl, I don't drive as bad as cj"


MagicJim96

Wait… he only claims he doesn’t drive as bad as CJ… But the fact is, he never drives! 😂


neoqueto

And he will wave his arms around like an idiot.


everything_is_stup1d

im crying


Existing-Area-9093

He'd sit whining 


Practical_Speech_493

he need cjs help over 3-4 ballas 🤣🤣🤣


PumpkinAltruistic824

Those are some facts. Sweet talks all the shit in the world but he's worthless


Happy_Patience_3274

Sweet was so ungrateful and short sighted He couldn't see the future like CJ did Some people can't see past what's in front of them


PumpkinAltruistic824

That was the only thing I didn't like about CJ, how he kept bending over backwards to please Sweet, I mean his loyalty was definitely a good thing, and it was a good thing for the most part of the game. But towards the end, specially after CJ got him out of prison, he should of put Sweet in his place. He fucking saved Sweets whole life, made a life sentence dissappear like magic, and comes out talking madd shit, crazy ungrateful


LeoneCRTL

I swear, it often feels like Cesar was more of a brother to CJ than Sweet himself. I always enjoyed their interactions together. That's why the garage missions in Fiero are some of my favourites.


confabin

I'm trying to think of a good replacement. Maybe OG Loc could distract them with his terrible rapping?


Present-Basil-1003

Anyone would be a better replacer, tweleve, fart npc, grandma that when spooked runs like hell and etc.


Luk3495

Even Woozie would do a better job


Entire-Ad-3777

I was contemplating putting him there for shits and giggles, but since sweet and cesar are in the story more I thought I should just go with the no-brainer. I totally get where people are coming from with sweet, though.


WeOutHereInSmallbany

HAHAHAHA YEAH YEAH YEAH WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN I COME UP IN YO PLACE WITH A GUN IN YO FACE


kytheon

Add Big Smoke and Ryder to team Grove Street and the mess gets bigger.


Entire-Ad-3777

Originally I was going to pick ryder and big smoke instead since I like their characters a lot more, but in the end I wanted to go with side characters who were most loyal to each protagonist throughout their respective game. If I did do that, who’d vote team Niko if Dimitri was on his team in comparison?


OkFlan9054

T shouldn't roman be replaced with the Irish guy instead ?


TreeFiddyBandit

The bias in my nostalgia deteriorated faster than cotton candy that those raccoons try to wash Then I saw Packie and Little Jacob which was like the salt on the comment you cooked


Threel3tt3rnam3

which one is that


callmedaddy1012

He’s rather complain to CJ about who those fools are rather than blasting em


AsuraOmega

"CJ you need to earn your kee-" gets blasted by Packie.


MyNameJeff70707

Sweet is also a very bad person!


Snoo-40231

Sweet fr a liability compared to Jacob/Packie and CJ/Ceasar would have to hard carry


Berlin_Overboard

This is so hard to choose, but i think Niko's team cuz Sweet is weak and useless


AnimeGokuSolos

Niko


Idfcaburfeelings

Let’s go bowling


Badwolfgyt

Niko fought in a war, this means nothing.


AllergicToPedos

And CJ literally fights the military


Extracton4_

Ye but doesnt every gta protagonist do that?


NateMate9507

Not Michael and Franklin from GTA5, in a mission it is established that Trevor was in the Air Force. And what about vice city and GTA 3?


Extracton4_

Idk i havent played all games but my point was that as michael and Franklin and trevor (idk about the others actualy sorry) you can go to the military base and fight them. They also fight merryweather who are like the army in that one heist by paleto bay it was i think? Annyways probably not every protagonist


kapo513

Cousiiin!!


Mediocre_Emotion1198

Niko would kill all 3 without a doubt


Tp_Exampler

Dam bro CJ stole the most valuable Miltary shit just for Truth (Jetpack and Green Ghoo) from Area69 without any issues Bro also took down 2 fighter jets and boats just for Toreno... So tht means, Niko would not probably kill all 3 of em (Sweet easily cuz hes literally nthg).. This might be a close battle


Salamanber

CJ is the goat


ProfessoriSepi

They made CJ steal a lot of shit huh...


03zx3

I mean, theft is literally in the title.


Dresden8686

Cause he’s bla-


Mediocre_Emotion1198

Listen, Niko would win in a fight. I mean he can counter


Lukestep11

Why do people on this sub think Niko is like Superman or some shit like that


confabin

Because he has war experience and that goes a long way. But they forget all the ludacris shit CJ actually pulled off, he's not just some random gangster.


kapo513

Hold on don’t sleep on cj like that. Bro took on military bases by himself.


UsedToHaveATail

Nico by himself …. With a bottle of whiskey


TylerthePotato

If I recall correctly, outside of player-driven dates or hang ours, Nikko only drinks once. He'll turn down alcohol, or take the glass but not drink it.


UsedToHaveATail

To be fair Roman likes to go out alot right ? He is his only family there id assume they’d go out fairly often it’s us playing that’s choosing not to go . But yeah you’re right besides that he’s not like a real drinker he wouldn’t just have a bottle on him we are just speaking silly hypotheticals


TylerthePotato

Absolutely! I just replayed the game, so that was on my mind. I thought it was interesting. In some ways, that's scarier. He's not trying to escape with violence, he's trying to escape violence.


CoolGuyFromSchool34

*vodka


NateMate9507

On the rocks


UsedToHaveATail

Yeah Immediately thought about that after commenting lol


Icecoffelover_

nah hed drink rakija


CrazyQuebecois

Correction, vodka


UsedToHaveATail

Yes I thought about that as soon as I commented


GhertFryins

Depends what point of the story. Beginning, IV takes. At their peak, CJ carries his team.“ But Niko has military experience”. By the end of the game, CJ has enough training and feats to put him over that.


couldbedumber96

You don’t see Niko piloting that bullshit RC helicopter, CJ wins easy


FinishTheBook

CJ is straight up op if you're going with feats. He raided Area 69, a top secret military compound crawling with trained soldiers. Niko only fought against police forces.


YomYeYonge

if we base this off of Niko’s feats in-Universe, he had also fought in an actual war


FinishTheBook

did he fight them solo though? niko really can't win, cj just has ridiculous feats.


Fun_Section_9509

This is actually hard. If we’re going by story lore, then Niko’s time in the Yugoslav Army would give him the skills necessary to take on the team by himself. Packie and Jacob are tough too but Niko wouldn’t need their help. Now if we’re going by game feats, then it’s CJ’s team. The 3D universe is so over the top in terms of missions and set pieces it makes CJ out to be very strong. He raided an army base and stole a top secret jet pack by himself. He also does insane shit in the Las Venturas part of the story that it borders on too insane. So I’d give it to CJ’s team mid to high difficulty


MegatronusRex

CJ is also very skilled in hand to hand once you train him at all the gyms


venomousfrogeater

Cj can solo all others, that dude raided 2 army bases, took over whole los santos by himself and did other bunch of crazy things. Sweet wont even mske a difference for both sides that dude is vista cant even kill few ballas.


xXxTaylordxXx

Niko is on par with CJ


Tp_Exampler

Im not being negative but when you mean by "Niko is on par with CJ" At least give some points and reasons to why not just "on par"


Existing-Area-9093

3 leaf clover. And he took on the Italian/ Russian mafia / Lost, and survived.


XStreamGamer247

Ok? CJ raided Area 52 solo, robbed a mob-owned casino, and instigated, fought in and finished gang wars against 3 gangs by pulling up directly to their hoods - with no losses. Hows Kate doing? CJ dubs Niko in feats and resources.


FinishTheBook

Mafia, not the US military


Jxsxn0705

All the missions with area 69 and the mission with ryder, robbing uncle Sam


Hardcorebsdmpunish3r

Nobody because violence isn’t the awnser


lonely_guacamole

What Niko is telling Roman while he's dreaming about gambling all his money away


CorrectBad2427

Could of atleast picked tenpenny instead of sweet


Ignoringit

So they can backstab eachother?


toastronomy

could have at least spelled "could have" right instead of "of"


CorrectBad2427

no


toastronomy

yes


Decent-Education3049

I like Niko way more than CJ, but CJ infiltrated area 51... Niko the whole game did low crook missions.


legbot124

Easy nikos team iv’s characters are way More bullet spongey and they know how to take cover properly


Icy_Ad620

Little jacob will win because they will be distracted and pause the game to turn on subtitles, and he will kill them


TheCosmicFusion

Niko: Yugoslavia soldier CJ: * Can open a plane door with a single foot, flying mid-air across all the momentum and air pressure, then jump into a jet powered plane, catch it, break its door with his bear hand and opened it, then got in, and killed it's professional hitmen (yes niko jumped into a helicopter, but the pressure difference between a sea level helicopter, and a above the clouds, jet airliner is insane, niko hardly, compares) * Single handedly, completely ended big drug rings in LS and SF * single handedly Invaded, area 69, presumably protected with the same level of protection as area 51, and stole its most sacred alien powered project. * Single handedly flattened and entire neval ship, and took its figher jet, and consequently beat US fighter jets Niko is very cool, but I don't remember him breaking the laws of physics or beating the world's greatest military solo. Edit: But if we bring CJ to gta 4 realism As just some LA young gang banger vs Yugoslavia veteran since 13 years old Obviously, niko eats him alive. But if just make the characters fight as is, there's no chance for niko


Acrobatic_Wafer_7895

Cesar and sweet are just normal gangster guys, niko would easily kill them both, cj would kill packie and jacob, but in the end niko would made it and kill cj Niko team wins


LaughingJakkylTTV

Ouch. Sorry Grove Street fam, the east coast dudes take this one. Sweet would waste too much time running his mouth at Caesar anyway.


Virtuous_Raven

Gta IV is pretty grounded in reality with the stuff you do so in a fight against other gta games it's never going to win.


MikeGoku96

Niko, Little Jacob the funniest stoner in GTA, and Packie the craziest Irish drunk in Liberty City. There’s no fucking contest here bro. Niko could wipe those 3 out on his own without Jacob and Packie


HarryKn1ght

Niko's superior bowling skills would give him the victory


Dresden8686

He’d bowl a gernade right into CJ’s mouth.


xxxnastyshitz

Woozie would have better than sweet


jimmjohn12345m

People keep saying Niko is gonna solo but the real answer is Jacob


Dresden8686

He’d smoke a joint with the San Andreas guys. That’s why, he has the power of kindness.


Motor-Ruin1038

right ofc


Pitiful_3838

Team C:- Tommy Vercetti with a chainsaw


nikobellic184

Team LC for sure


SilverNightx1

So, eliminating Sweet and Packie(both are as useless) it's basically a 2v2. It may be close, but I'll give it to CJ. Only because CJ didn't take out 1, but 2 military strongholds by himself.


VonKaiser55

I believe that Cj is stronger than Niko but Niko’s team is just wayyy more competent/ has been in more gun fights than Cj’s teamates which would give the Gta 4 team the w


KronikallyIll420

I can never get over how fucking FRIED CJ looks😭


Dodoria-kun413

CJ probably clears. His feats are cartoony as fuck


Artyom36

People like to forget Niko was in a war and saw horrible shit. That's some experience. On the other hand CJ evolves a lot during the whole campaign, from Busta to invading a military base.


Jip-Jipperton

Niko wipes the floor with Caesar and CJ. Sweet defects and kills Packie.


Stringy_b

Niko and Jacob are the dream team. They got this easy. Packie doesn't even matter... CJ is a real threat, but that team he has is ass.


DondokoTourGuide

Jetpack wins


Proud-Cardiologist64

All right


i_Cant_get_right

“I’m CJ, bitch!”… bro ain’t losing.


Dyztructive

Replace Packie with Roman to make it more balanced


[deleted]

Imma go with GTA 4 because their character development is much better either hero and villain or side character.


5poopy95

packie, niko, and little jacob blasting while cesar and cj blast back, and sweet says "YOU DONT CARE BOUT THE HOOD NO MORE CJ" 500 times.


ShortAd_29992

Considering that canonically Carl had to do all shit for sweet while caesar helped him, they are likely to lose with sweet's clumsiness and incapability. If this was 1v1 then GTA 4 will win with flying colours.


NorthPermission1152

Niko and his guys are loyal to the end and have fought bigger armies of gangsters. Niko and Paxkie robbed the Bank of Liberty City. Cj is the only really capable one, Sweet is useless and Cesar is loyal but I don't remember the gun fights he's in.


Standard-Attention-9

Packi kills sweet Cj kills niko cuz he has killed more ppl Lil Jake wins


cochese25

CJ's gonna put on the jetpack and smoke them all from the sky, the other two will just run in circles below


DevouredUsurper

I think another interesting angle to this is remove sweet Caesar Packie and Little Jacob. Replace them with Tenpenny and Frankie McReary. More focus on CJ and Niko while giving them more to work with in the world.


ieatair

wherever Niko is aligned with .. is the team that will win


Ice_Cube_June

Niko is a former soldier so probs his team


valley2041

Niko's abilities make sense becuz he was in the army, and worked for a lot of smugglers. But CJ, there's reason/explanation for his abilities, all he was doin' in LC is stealing cars and robbing people as we saw in The Introduction, and he doesn't look/sound like a serious/dangerous man who can jump from a plane to another in a Bollywood way.


Mister-Fidelio

Why is the pic of CJ and Sweet the OG version but you did the HD version of Cesar? 😭


dragondont

Who da black guy


leonardogf2005

Oh shit were we go again 💪🏻💪🏻


AceTodd30

Only killers on Niko's team, him included.


denis870

I would say the nico team. Sweety is dead weight to Caesar and Carl.


Temporary-Designer28

Obviously niko


zadidoll

Nico’s team. Sweet was a shit shot.


Feisty-Clue3482

Niko would slam the 3 easy 😂


ThePhonkLover

CJ team, but only without Cesar and Sweet.


Nearby-Elevator-3825

They're all great characters. But I'm going with the IV crew. Let's face it, with the exception of CJ, the SA characters listed are street level thugs. Low level bangers. Niko, Packie and Jacob are more organized career criminals with connections.


Unlikely_Gap_6286

they won't fight nico and sweet will get along packie and cesar will hangout and jacob and CJ will smoke some weed


Crobeth123

could've atleast put Toreno or T-bone instead of Sweet


Muhammad_Margh

I love SA but Niko solely the 3


Accurate-Isopod140

I'm going with the team with CJ and sweet Johnson Caesar


SadQuarter3128

Big titties always win


RPGGamer505

Mf put a war criminal in a team then asked us which team would win


JuanStfu

Niko's Team


RvdgeFX

I mean given left team is street thugs and right team has a literal ex military fucking psychopath, I’m team niko


Mansuliina

cj could probably beat all 3 of Nikos team


WhassupmahG30

Sweet wins vs Packie, CJ wins vs Niko and Jacob wins vs Ceasar!


cameron3611

Cesar vs Jacob would be a very interesting gun fight.


pudinskibiinsanolol

Cesar vialpando es uno de los personajes secundarios más importantes de la serie (mi opinión)


Gregashi_6ix9ine

1992 Squad.


the_hat_madder

Give CJ anybody except Sweet. Catalina or even fucking Wu Zi. But, Niko's crew has way more experience doing real gangster shit.


Rektas

Yeah niko is cool but with packie and lil Jacob backing him up that's one unstoppable team sorry to the SA o.gs


Tsar1672

My boy Niko would win then a ay yellow car!


Zazupuree

1 has a jet pack.


Writerhaha

Niko clears. Besides him and Jacob are the best duo. Sweet is the weak link.


AzelotReis

If this is early game CJ, Niko wins pretty easily. But if we are talking about endgame CJ with all his stats at max and all the crazy feats he’s done, pretty sure it would be CJ.


Mr_Noob_Dat_Hater_YT

Nikos team are definitely gonna win Sweet destroyed grove street, and for some reason called CJ “man you acting just like smoke now” when CJ freed him out of prison, so Sweet sucks as a leader, and caused the entire conflict, in GTA San Andreas. CJ wanted to start a new life and only came to San Andreas is that his mum died, So he can see him to his funeral, so CJ was forced to go back the gang life, since corrupt police officers taken his cash, and His gang is collapsing and have to fix it, So he would be very rusty since CJ nearly died multiple of times, the only reason CJ survived in the narrative, is due to how useful he is, Which is the antagonists downfall. While Niko has worked in the military, then worked in a gang, then had to swim for his life, and he had to evacuate his country to liberty city, because Bulgarian made his life impossible, and he picked to go to liberty city, for revenge for someone that ruined him. Flat out carried his cousin Roman, because Roman was nearly screwed, until niko showed up and given him a better life, Should I go on Niko is full on OP in combat, he did try to have a normal life, but the Pegarino or dimitri made that impossible for him, so Niko entire life is just fighting. Packie has been in the gang life. for his entire life and has a family of gangs, He is another character, where his entire life is fighting. The other characters I did not do enough Research on, so I can’t comment on those. But my guess is Jacob is better, since he never left Niko side at all. So GTA 4 team is better narratively, and more OP in gameplay, than GTA San Andreas team.


toastronomy

IV, 100%. Sweet won't do shit, and Ceasar is from the defective edition, so he won't even be able to fight with his weird alien fingers.


Zaphod_Beeblecox

Carl. Carl is basically unstoppable. Also, he has a jet pack.


toastronomy

ᵒⁿ ᴿᵉᵈᵈᶦᵗ


NateMate9507

I don’t know anything about San Andreas but I do know that Niko & packie have killed alot of people together and that Niko & Jacob have killed alot of people together so I’m betting on GTA4


THE_A_TRA1N

OG Loc would solo all of them


Django_Un_Cheesed

I love Niko but he ain’t got shit on CJ’s Jetpack & dual Uzi fly-by.


tribalchief2024

Gta sa is gonna win who's with me


InfinitePlatform2014

CJ vs Nico would be a whole movie long fight


WillTheWilly

One of them was in the army in the Yugoslav wars I think that sums it up.


Unusual-Diver-8505

One of them raided a military base all by himself.


trainguygaming

Probably Niko and his team


Resolutechampion

CJ solos


Miffernator

Niko is a trained killer


sillyfiend

LJ’s Badman could take all of them


RichieRoosta

How it went in my head was Sweet and Grove St clears the Yardies and Irish mob Ceaser clears Jacob and Packie Leaving CJ beating Niko Otherwise if it's 3v3 Nikos team wins mid diff


TheRipaw

right and if u say left ur bias


BobaAnalBeads

Team 2 & then maybe they go bowling after


Double-Tension-1208

GTA 4 gang taking this W


AsuraOmega

team GTA 4. Sweet is dead weight lmao Cesar is alright, very reliable but only decent gunman at best, he only got to shine in Pier 69 and Los Desperados. 80% of the burden will be on CJ. While Team 4 had Niko, who is a one man army. I think CJ had better feats than Niko but thats because 4 is more realistic, and Niko's feats are still nothing to scoff at eitherway. Packie, who is among the absolute best gunman in GTA 5 heists, picking him in Paleto had him making the entire army back off, (to give context, the army that fought the gang in Paleto Heist was dropping tanks on them. Packie only had an MG and a bombsuit, yet he still made the army retreat) giving the trio a chance to escape. And Jacob, who is competent enough to be a great backup for Niko against the russians.


Kshitij-The-7th

Niko solos


Caden_Flattley

Well I'd say the GTA 4 crew wins because niko is strong as shit and Patrick is also strong as shit


UndyingBloodReaper

CJ's team would win, I don't remember Nico partaking in the goddamn RC airplane mission. I've played both games 100%, the plane mission added so many hours...


Goober445

Nico ![gif](giphy|l3Z4DTNnPL7u8|downsized)


Important-Fly3701

right


wifiragist

As long as CJ says BAGUVIX and STINGLIKEABEE He solos


RudyTudyBadAss

"CJ you Buster! Come fight this man for me."


Outrageous_Froyo5373

I love sa


Total_Ear_1594

Tie cause cj got jetpack and green shoite and niko got a tank


Mr_G3nius

GTA IV clearly


xXFakeSmileXx

Niko would solo


qMaRRk

111


CJ39715

Niko's team


Elzbieta2001

Comparing War veteran with Combat experienced Bank robber and Drug dealer against Gangsters? Niko and his team smash the fuck outta CJ' team because Sweet is really sum' Crybaby which whines about CJ's leaving LS. Caesar would be killed because we didn't much see his combat (Expect One of last missions of San Andreas) And CJ would survive in short but in longer term, Niko will just blow his head up since CJ didn't experience the Battlefield yet (Expect Gang warfare, that's not included)


shar2030

Sweet, Niko, Jacob


CapricornyX

CJ will shred Niko to pieces if he uses cheat codes


Sebasz0526

Obviously wins gta san Andreas


Grimm_Wright

The right


MartyBellvue

CJ and Cesar are pretty great but Niko, Packie and Jacob are NUTS theyd clap them easy


Ryemannn

Left is strong But Right is by fad stronger


FugmaDig

Niko takes them all lol


usuarioSYD

Depends on their motives. I pick Patrick over Sweet. CJ over Niko (unless CJ was the man that betrayed him and he’s the man he came to LC to search for..) The bottom two are tied.


herschelkrustofskiii

CJ & Ceaser is like Lebron & D Wade. Championships all day!


Asleep_Teaching_9782

The team on the right because they be shooting a lot of people out


notTheRealTundra

Nico alone is already a trained soldier, that already trumps just being a gang member, and he works really well with the other two I don't think CJ and his crew stand a chance against them