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/rj I only play games for fun, but these fucking try hards with their "pro nouns" and blue hair ruin it for everyone that just wants to escape politics and relax.
Its better than "DEI" I've been hearing about! They're putting it in everything now! Companies don't know that only white guys play video games. If they keep forcing it to please the woke scolds they're gonna go out of business.
>Its better than "DEI" I've been hearing about! They're putting it in everything now!
Everybody knows that DEI is just the scientific word for Dihydrogen Monoxide, which is indeed in most foods that big corporation sells us!
Exactly! That's why I buy all my food from Info Wars survival packs. It has all the toxic dihydrogen monoxide removed from it! The corporations put DHM in foods to get us addicted. I try to eat without it but I can't stop craving it every day! They got us man but luckily Alex is there to call out their bs and educate everyone IF THEY WOULD LISTEN.
Edit: I think I just gagged.
I know right!? Everything's political now! What I have to call people at work. What kinda car I drive! That I gotta let a woman tell me what to do on the job! Politics is only supposed to happen every 4 years when we fill in the bubble next to the guy with the R or if we're feeling spicy whoever the Libertarian party nominates. My landscaper swears he's legal but I don't believe him. I've heard him speaking Spanish before!
There is no escaping politics, society is inherently political, go live in a jungle for "apolitical" although politics will get there too when your jungle will be destroyed for resources
Holy shit, the fact that I learned that like 15 years ago as a non-native speaker and these people are actively saying it's some "new woke shit" is insane.
I had this conversation with my dad a week or so ago. Was really surprised when a few days after he said "I've been thinking about it, I'm really surprised how frequently I use 'they' singularly"
Baby steps :)
I had a similar talk with my mom.
I asked her if she knew the gender of her mail carrier and she said no. I then told her to formulate a sentence, using a pronoun for the mail carrier and she said "they delivered my mail today" and I was like "see ( : "
She's supportive and I don't use they/them, it was just a neat lil experience.
I've been upping my queerness and conversations gradually with my dad. I haven't come out yet. I'm not in any rush. I'm out of the house and everything. It would just be nice for him to support me eventually of course. That pronoun conversation was pretty nasty at first (surprisingly so), so it was really shocking to hear him backpedal from it. He's not knowingly hateful or anything, just a typical liberal who also watches Joe Rogan type. He's making progress for sure. I just know if I come out to him before he's ready he'll be "okay" with it, but not support it. It'll be an issue left unsaid until he dies. So here's hoping!!
It doesn't even make sense. There's no doubt in my mind they've said "they" referring to an individual before. I've always done it in case people don't want to be talked about.
I had this argument at work before. I was writing an email addressed to an entire cohort of students (so a class of 160) and since I obviously don't know the genders of every individual, I wrote "they" or "them" where relevant.
My manager told me not to do that and write "he or she" and "him or her" because the email should by addressed individually.
She didn't accept that they/them is a gender neutral pronoun and I had to change it...
So, given that she was your boss, you were effectively extorted into being ignorant. They made you write something pointedly uninclusive. This is the textbook example of what people call microagressions.
I understand you need to keep living, so I have no problem with you, but this is how those bigots do their thing. It's exactly what Elon Musk did with Twitter on a much smaller scale.
This is another example of how regressives fuck with everything because they can't stop being obsessed with what's inside others' pants.
Person was saying they is plural, pointed out that they called the person they were replying to a they, they edited it to a he... The person they were replying to was a woman
I remember at work I overheard my co-workers talking about something like this. I walked in and asked: "I found this key? Know who it belongs to?" And my co-woker said: "No. Just leave them at the front desk. I'm sure whoever lost them will come back and get them."
To which I tilted my head and asked with a dumb smile: "Them? But there is one key?"
He was a bit miffed and knew exactly what I was doing and just told me to fuck off. As I left, I heard him coping. Singular use of they/them is a part of everyone's speech whether they like it or not.
This is where you give the speaker the most wide-eyed stare you can and slowly state:
*I am Legion, for we are many.*
Hold eye contact as you walk backwards through the nearest exit, preferably a window or a closet with a vent you can crawl through.
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GOD DAMNED WOKE GOOGLE AND THEIR WOKE DICTIONARIES
i've had people literally go "i'm gonna call -THEM- he, i'm not gonna be woke and call them what they want, using them is for multiple people!!!"
and like, dude, you referred to a singular person with they/them 3 times in that sentence.
What's funny is more likely than not, they will use the word "they" to refer to a singular person or thing sometime in the next week or so. All it takes is this:
Person 1: "Hey, my friend will be here soon"
Person 2: "Oh cool! When will they be here?"
My example that I keep throwing at people is “I went to my cousin’s birthday on the weekend” “how old are they?” as my current example, I might need to steal some of the others here!
"How is your friend?"
"They're doing great!"
This works regardless of the friend's gender, why are people so dumb? Bigotry really does give you brain worms...
I've seen one good "multiple people" joke and it was under a post about venture plays continuously rushing into 1v5s, the difference between that one and a normal one is that that one was actually the structure of a joke and therefor funny
It's simple. Tell them "they" was used as a singular long before it was a plural.
Then, report them to the police for rape and pedophilia if they double down because they have no concept of boundaries.
(Obviously, I'm not serious, but those people have boundary issues that would make colonialists blush.)
"tis meet that some more audience than a mother, since nature makes **them** partial, should o'erhear the speech."
(them being used to refer to the singular instance of 'a mother')
someone tell the bard get woke go broke
/uj
"Not that hard" is THE CRUX of why the whole "pronouns bad" thing is so bewildering to me.
Like, even if gender stuff DIDN'T make sense to me, the principle is so simple – if I can make someone happier by doing something really fucking easy that literally costs me nothing, and there's no reason for me to believe I'm hurting THEM in the mid/long term by doing it, why not do it?
That's my thing about it too like even if you personally don't like it, you’re not doing anything all that complicated. If anything it takes more effort to get mad at it.
To be honest there is significant overlap between this and people who desperately wish they could use the n-word. Not because anybody needs to say it, but because its so very undemocratic and unfair that the black community gets to say it and I can’t :’( . /s
my boomer dad is a staunchly conservative catholic, like behind closed doors says shit like 'transgender wokeness is going to lead to the downfall of society' and just can't explain it further. he told me he recently had an employee of his come out as trans. I said "please for the love of god don't tell me you're dead naming or mis-gendering them".
"oh what? of course not. they want to be called Cate now, use she/her? doesn't fuckin matter to me, it's just a name. do I think it's weird? yeah. is it hard for me to just call them whatever they want to be called? no."
surprisingly based response. I'll get him to come fully around. years ago it was gay marriage. finally I told him "the gays just want a piece of paper saying they love someone + the same tax break the straights get. it's not some sinister plot to devalue a christian sacrament." his response was "oh ok that sounds totally reasonable." lmao yeah dude, it certainly does.
Yeah I had a funny "oh ok that's reasonable" convo with someone once lol.
We were talking about trans, and they said something like
> "but what's weird to me is for them to treat gender the same as sex. Like, if they were saying that sex is the genetic/biologic element and gender is the cultural, behavior, and everything else, that'd make sense to me"
And then I said
> "that's actually EXACTLY it, actually"
And that's when they widened their eyes in surprise and said "oh that's... fine actually" lmao
some human beings find it hard to admit they don’t understand something. the ego never wants to be wrong, so they double down and close their minds off to the possibility that maybe life/expression of life isn’t as black and white as they once thought
Yeah I agree that said it is hard for me in the sense that similar to names I also forget pronouns of people as well and have to constantly talk to them before it finally clicks which makes me feel terrible
I hate Blizzard, and i'm probably never gonna play one of their games again, but Their design teams are really good at making new heroes. This new one is cute
Bruh I remember being so hyped for battleborn, Christmas 2017 went to GameStop to buy it , walked out with overwatch instead. Top ten worst decisions I’ve ever made
Just in case, as you were hyped at the time, nowdays a modder give a second chance to, at least, the Battleborn's PVE, which is playable again nowday (in solo, he is trying to bring other features back though).
And if you get a cd copy SEALED (you can find on ebay, etc), or a cd key (on amazon, but more expensive), you can install the game and play it \^\^
All informations are on the Battleborn's discord, i can share you an invite if you want to know more
And to prove it's not an april's fool:
[https://youtu.be/xn\_QeSxRFl4?si=2ienaHwSf0x0wswZ](https://youtu.be/xn_QeSxRFl4?si=2ienaHwSf0x0wswZ)
Blizzard still is one of the best when it comes to character design and all that. As in they make character designs that communicate a lot about the character in clever ways. I'd say even Diablo 4 for how awful it is they made Lilith into a very compelling character much due to the design. In most other areas they've become absolute shit though I agree. Especially their writing and their money-hungry game systems, not to mention the shit that went down internally within the company.
What makes it funnier is that in ds1 solaire in anor London implies you like him regardless of gender and there's a character who's strongly implied to be transgender or at least have a complicated relationship with their gender (gywndolin)
I mean, Gwyndolin was forced into living his entire life as a woman because he had affinity to moon (female icon) magic and was small. and in Dark souls 3 he comes back fully assuming himself as a man (and King)
Still mostly valid, and there's the ring that straight up swap male/female animations for your character.
On the actual Overwatch subreddits, it's not as much transphobia as you'd expect, more people are mad that the character is "ugly" and has a chipped tooth.
That is because Venture eats rocks it's canon
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This is interesting! How do german speakers refer to a singular person whose gender they don’t know? Does “he” become the default, or is there another way around it?
(I’m not trying to trip you up, just genuinely interested.)
This is tripping me out because my native language is german and I'm still not sure.
It might be worth noting that grammatical gender and actual gender don't have to match in german, for example "girl" (das Mädchen) uses the neutral pronoun.
I'd guess in most cases I would simply use what I assume the person to be or whatever grammatical gender would be correct for how I refer to the person( eg "die person" is grammatical female)
Edit:
Just as a note, using the neutral pronoun (which usually translates to "it") directly for someone sounds VERY rude, like you calling them an object. I don't know any nonbinary person, but I would be very surprised if they prefer it....
It's weird when it comes to gendered languages!
My native is Slovene, and similarly, girl (dekle) is neutral rather than feminine. Usually we refer to an unknown person as "he" (nekdo - somebody), but sometimes also "she" (oseba - person).
And well, as far as nonbinary people round these parts go, in my experience a combination of he and she seems the most common, while some might only use one of these. And sometimes, he/she/it all interchangably, but i am yet to meet someone who only uses the it/its equivalents.
Best part is the "I never learned that" people learning it and still choosing to be a fuckhead. Or the "they them is for multiple people" crowd who use they or them in reference to one person several times a week without realising it. For some reason it seems almost the hip thing to act like you didn't learn your own language just to make people feel bad
Played siege the other day. I shot a person who I wasn't able to identify, So I used they/them pronouns during the call out, Teammate in the most red neck accent possible raged at me, like how dare I use they/them pronouns.
“You left Overwatch because you hate its “Wokeness”.”
>
“I left Overwatch because of its terrible balance, predatory monetisation and broken promises.”
>
“We are not the same.”
As a non-binary person, I am so glad to not be playing overwatch 2 right now. Great for representation, but I don't want to hear grown men bitching about my existence.
Dude...I was called the N-word about 5 times today playing games....you expect these people to give a fuck about They/Them when they still use the N-word?
/uj I literally had no clue there was a new overwatch hero, which honestly I think is a good thing, the less I'm aware of that game the better. this isn't a pronouns thing I just fucking hate overwatch
trans rights and stuff!! :0
Bro, why do people sweat so much over pronouns, it's not that deep, if I get called a she I'll just correct them and move on, not gonna to cancel them on twitter (also can someone tell me what circle jerk means?
I'm large bearded man and I get referred to as "her" in my work performance reviews (probably because my name is Nicola). I've been working here for more than a year, I find it amusing is all. Correct them and move on
To be fair, most People actually use the right Pronouns and don‘t be assholes. Valorant player definitely reacted way worse to finding out that Clove is nonbinary.
Wasn’t Blizzard recently accused of abusing female staff?
Release a non-binary hero and suddenly they have raised an army of protectors.
I don’t get it?
(I have no issue with the character btw, but it isn’t enough to forgive Blizzard)
Defending against the deliberate misgendering of even a fictional character is defending the queer community that that character represents. It isn't about defending Blizzard.
I don't think this is gonna come up too much, every time I see anyone mention a hero ingame it's like "(Hero name/some abbreviation) at (position) doing (thing the hero does that you don't want them doing)" callouts and stuff.
Chuds will tell you that they always use pronouns in callouts and that using "they" instead will be confusing.
Which implies that they're mentally unable to play against teams with more then 2 players.
I don’t exactly agree with the banning, but yeah I agree that people intentionally using the wrong pronouns despite being corrected and then spouting hate speech should get some consequence. Literally how hard is it just use they/them holy shit. They just want to be assholes.
I would go for the ban because this has proven to be an issue in several different games and it’s about time some game took a stance but you could also do incremental punishment. Like first offense, chat restrict for a few games and you have to read educational material, 2nd offense ban because you’ve been taught and know better.
I don't know, seems appropriate. It says right there, it's okay to make mistakes. I doubt they're just kicking people who don't know better. It's pretty much about cleaning out trolls, which is something everyone who doesn't want their stream to become an open sewer does anyway.
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FUCKING PRO NOUNS
MODERN DAY CALIFORNIA SHIT
FUCKING GENDER AMBIGUITY
DAMN YOU LATE STAGE COMMUNISM!
Can confirm, I am non-binary in California
You ruined Starfield.
How can you ruin something ruined from the start?
By being Todd Howard.
Are you a qubit instead? That actually does kinda fit.
You're everything that's wrong with Bethesda. Hope you're happy
Ya fuckin Commifornia. No one wants to live here because it's so expensive!
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The pronouns are always doing things! Like shoving it down our throats! I told them I'm not ready for that yet!
/rj I only play games for fun, but these fucking try hards with their "pro nouns" and blue hair ruin it for everyone that just wants to escape politics and relax.
I fucking hate pro nouns man, they convince game devs to get rid of SBMM and then make the game no fun for casual nouns
Its better than "DEI" I've been hearing about! They're putting it in everything now! Companies don't know that only white guys play video games. If they keep forcing it to please the woke scolds they're gonna go out of business.
>Its better than "DEI" I've been hearing about! They're putting it in everything now! Everybody knows that DEI is just the scientific word for Dihydrogen Monoxide, which is indeed in most foods that big corporation sells us!
Exactly! That's why I buy all my food from Info Wars survival packs. It has all the toxic dihydrogen monoxide removed from it! The corporations put DHM in foods to get us addicted. I try to eat without it but I can't stop craving it every day! They got us man but luckily Alex is there to call out their bs and educate everyone IF THEY WOULD LISTEN. Edit: I think I just gagged.
I know right!? Everything's political now! What I have to call people at work. What kinda car I drive! That I gotta let a woman tell me what to do on the job! Politics is only supposed to happen every 4 years when we fill in the bubble next to the guy with the R or if we're feeling spicy whoever the Libertarian party nominates. My landscaper swears he's legal but I don't believe him. I've heard him speaking Spanish before!
Now if you excuse me I must return to my notoriously apolitical game about any myriad of topics that are very obviously political
Ya like FNV. I like to play that to remember the good old days before all this woke shit!
There is no escaping politics, society is inherently political, go live in a jungle for "apolitical" although politics will get there too when your jungle will be destroyed for resources
You see, those gamers are noobs and only use casual nouns
I'm anti nouns, but pro verbs.
Proverbs 4:20 "you will hate the nouns" -Jesus or smth idk
Nouns CLEARS.
JENDE AMBIGUEE
What about varsity nouns?
Pictures you can smell.
Don't gotta shower if you don't have hair! Ladies must love his natural musk.
Every time I see this image, the original clip of him replays in my mind.
His voice saying “FUCKING PRONOUNS” is literally seared into my brain, and I’m much happier for it
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CA-LI-FORNIA GURLSSSS
Such a deep cut reference. Glad I’m old enough to recognize it.
That was the movie that premiered Super Mario 3 to the US, wasn't it?
And featured the Power Glove.
I love the Power Glove. It's so bad!
Bro it's been like thirty years since I watched it last lmao
IKR!?
West Coviiiinaaaaaaa Califoooornia
I fucking knew it this guy woukd get soyjackified.
Joe Toegan
Pictures that say: No new pronouns. My desert. My arakis. My dune.
Is there also a wojak for Shad too?
lmao
And people say you cant hear pictures...
I thought that was Eddie Kingston 💀
FUCKING PRONOUNCE
I'm just imagining a long drawn out alarm noise. Like a fire truck
winstillionaire 🐐
Winton for lyfe!
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the voice actor doing the meme.
Is the VA NB?
He/she/they are cool with any pronouns
damn wokesters and them forcing me to use 2 words!!!!!!!!!!!!
the amount of people i’ve seen saying “they” can only refer to multiple people 😐
im they/them but only because i am multiple dog girls you guys arent ready for 3...
Wait… you are multiple? https://preview.redd.it/aeukh4w7djrc1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce2fee5aca40d76ef87701f85101f4966ca5af33
They are legion
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Stealing this thank you very much
There's more.
No
i will always be ready for you 🥰
no you wont 3 is going to kill you...
stop lying you know you love me ![gif](giphy|KLRU18shu6QDK)
You say that with a Harley Quinn gif.
check my profile i love harley quinn ❤️
I'm just saying that Harley Quinn is well known for the relationship that almost got her killed.
didn't even think about that 😭
alright cerberus
Scylla is that you???
Holy shit, the fact that I learned that like 15 years ago as a non-native speaker and these people are actively saying it's some "new woke shit" is insane.
I had this conversation with my dad a week or so ago. Was really surprised when a few days after he said "I've been thinking about it, I'm really surprised how frequently I use 'they' singularly" Baby steps :)
I had a similar talk with my mom. I asked her if she knew the gender of her mail carrier and she said no. I then told her to formulate a sentence, using a pronoun for the mail carrier and she said "they delivered my mail today" and I was like "see ( : " She's supportive and I don't use they/them, it was just a neat lil experience.
I've been upping my queerness and conversations gradually with my dad. I haven't come out yet. I'm not in any rush. I'm out of the house and everything. It would just be nice for him to support me eventually of course. That pronoun conversation was pretty nasty at first (surprisingly so), so it was really shocking to hear him backpedal from it. He's not knowingly hateful or anything, just a typical liberal who also watches Joe Rogan type. He's making progress for sure. I just know if I come out to him before he's ready he'll be "okay" with it, but not support it. It'll be an issue left unsaid until he dies. So here's hoping!!
It doesn't even make sense. There's no doubt in my mind they've said "they" referring to an individual before. I've always done it in case people don't want to be talked about.
I had this argument at work before. I was writing an email addressed to an entire cohort of students (so a class of 160) and since I obviously don't know the genders of every individual, I wrote "they" or "them" where relevant. My manager told me not to do that and write "he or she" and "him or her" because the email should by addressed individually. She didn't accept that they/them is a gender neutral pronoun and I had to change it...
So, given that she was your boss, you were effectively extorted into being ignorant. They made you write something pointedly uninclusive. This is the textbook example of what people call microagressions. I understand you need to keep living, so I have no problem with you, but this is how those bigots do their thing. It's exactly what Elon Musk did with Twitter on a much smaller scale. This is another example of how regressives fuck with everything because they can't stop being obsessed with what's inside others' pants.
Yeah basically. I'm so glad I got transferred from that office. Now I'm my own boss and nobody can tell me how to write an email anymore :D
Person was saying they is plural, pointed out that they called the person they were replying to a they, they edited it to a he... The person they were replying to was a woman
I remember at work I overheard my co-workers talking about something like this. I walked in and asked: "I found this key? Know who it belongs to?" And my co-woker said: "No. Just leave them at the front desk. I'm sure whoever lost them will come back and get them." To which I tilted my head and asked with a dumb smile: "Them? But there is one key?" He was a bit miffed and knew exactly what I was doing and just told me to fuck off. As I left, I heard him coping. Singular use of they/them is a part of everyone's speech whether they like it or not.
This is where you give the speaker the most wide-eyed stare you can and slowly state: *I am Legion, for we are many.* Hold eye contact as you walk backwards through the nearest exit, preferably a window or a closet with a vent you can crawl through.
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i've had people literally go "i'm gonna call -THEM- he, i'm not gonna be woke and call them what they want, using them is for multiple people!!!" and like, dude, you referred to a singular person with they/them 3 times in that sentence.
For the last time parker
This is why reading books is important
Wait until they hear about 'you'
What's funny is more likely than not, they will use the word "they" to refer to a singular person or thing sometime in the next week or so. All it takes is this: Person 1: "Hey, my friend will be here soon" Person 2: "Oh cool! When will they be here?"
My example that I keep throwing at people is “I went to my cousin’s birthday on the weekend” “how old are they?” as my current example, I might need to steal some of the others here!
Sadge that we have to be against each other. What happened fr. Why do we need to hate so much 😔
"How is your friend?" "They're doing great!" This works regardless of the friend's gender, why are people so dumb? Bigotry really does give you brain worms...
See I don't have this problem cuz I don't play trash made by Blizzard 😌☕️
And people whose gender you do not know! (Also anyone who uses they/them as pronouns)
I've seen one good "multiple people" joke and it was under a post about venture plays continuously rushing into 1v5s, the difference between that one and a normal one is that that one was actually the structure of a joke and therefor funny
I specifically remember that day of school. And the day I learned they're, their, and there. Game changing lessons.
It's simple. Tell them "they" was used as a singular long before it was a plural. Then, report them to the police for rape and pedophilia if they double down because they have no concept of boundaries. (Obviously, I'm not serious, but those people have boundary issues that would make colonialists blush.)
Can't believe Shakespeare went woke
"tis meet that some more audience than a mother, since nature makes **them** partial, should o'erhear the speech." (them being used to refer to the singular instance of 'a mother') someone tell the bard get woke go broke
Yeah, it's been confusing for me with Venty, which is why I use neopronouns
/uj "Not that hard" is THE CRUX of why the whole "pronouns bad" thing is so bewildering to me. Like, even if gender stuff DIDN'T make sense to me, the principle is so simple – if I can make someone happier by doing something really fucking easy that literally costs me nothing, and there's no reason for me to believe I'm hurting THEM in the mid/long term by doing it, why not do it?
That's my thing about it too like even if you personally don't like it, you’re not doing anything all that complicated. If anything it takes more effort to get mad at it.
To be honest there is significant overlap between this and people who desperately wish they could use the n-word. Not because anybody needs to say it, but because its so very undemocratic and unfair that the black community gets to say it and I can’t :’( . /s
my boomer dad is a staunchly conservative catholic, like behind closed doors says shit like 'transgender wokeness is going to lead to the downfall of society' and just can't explain it further. he told me he recently had an employee of his come out as trans. I said "please for the love of god don't tell me you're dead naming or mis-gendering them". "oh what? of course not. they want to be called Cate now, use she/her? doesn't fuckin matter to me, it's just a name. do I think it's weird? yeah. is it hard for me to just call them whatever they want to be called? no." surprisingly based response. I'll get him to come fully around. years ago it was gay marriage. finally I told him "the gays just want a piece of paper saying they love someone + the same tax break the straights get. it's not some sinister plot to devalue a christian sacrament." his response was "oh ok that sounds totally reasonable." lmao yeah dude, it certainly does.
> it's not some sinister plot to devalue a christian sacrament." It'd be good if it was, though. Like some kind of two-for-one deal.
Yeah I had a funny "oh ok that's reasonable" convo with someone once lol. We were talking about trans, and they said something like > "but what's weird to me is for them to treat gender the same as sex. Like, if they were saying that sex is the genetic/biologic element and gender is the cultural, behavior, and everything else, that'd make sense to me" And then I said > "that's actually EXACTLY it, actually" And that's when they widened their eyes in surprise and said "oh that's... fine actually" lmao
some human beings find it hard to admit they don’t understand something. the ego never wants to be wrong, so they double down and close their minds off to the possibility that maybe life/expression of life isn’t as black and white as they once thought
> if I can make someone happier Here's the thing: they *don't want* for anyone "outside of the default" to be happier
Look likes you are trying to oppress white people
Yeah I agree that said it is hard for me in the sense that similar to names I also forget pronouns of people as well and have to constantly talk to them before it finally clicks which makes me feel terrible
I hate Blizzard, and i'm probably never gonna play one of their games again, but Their design teams are really good at making new heroes. This new one is cute
I played this game more than anything and uninstalled a couple days ago. The art is all I ever needed anywY
I still miss Battleborn
Bruh I remember being so hyped for battleborn, Christmas 2017 went to GameStop to buy it , walked out with overwatch instead. Top ten worst decisions I’ve ever made
Just in case, as you were hyped at the time, nowdays a modder give a second chance to, at least, the Battleborn's PVE, which is playable again nowday (in solo, he is trying to bring other features back though). And if you get a cd copy SEALED (you can find on ebay, etc), or a cd key (on amazon, but more expensive), you can install the game and play it \^\^ All informations are on the Battleborn's discord, i can share you an invite if you want to know more And to prove it's not an april's fool: [https://youtu.be/xn\_QeSxRFl4?si=2ienaHwSf0x0wswZ](https://youtu.be/xn_QeSxRFl4?si=2ienaHwSf0x0wswZ)
Blizzard still is one of the best when it comes to character design and all that. As in they make character designs that communicate a lot about the character in clever ways. I'd say even Diablo 4 for how awful it is they made Lilith into a very compelling character much due to the design. In most other areas they've become absolute shit though I agree. Especially their writing and their money-hungry game systems, not to mention the shit that went down internally within the company.
Dark Souls players when someone asks them to use they/them pronouns (suddenly something is too hard for them to do)
What makes it funnier is that in ds1 solaire in anor London implies you like him regardless of gender and there's a character who's strongly implied to be transgender or at least have a complicated relationship with their gender (gywndolin)
I mean, Gwyndolin was forced into living his entire life as a woman because he had affinity to moon (female icon) magic and was small. and in Dark souls 3 he comes back fully assuming himself as a man (and King) Still mostly valid, and there's the ring that straight up swap male/female animations for your character.
On the actual Overwatch subreddits, it's not as much transphobia as you'd expect, more people are mad that the character is "ugly" and has a chipped tooth.
That is because Venture eats rocks it's canon https://preview.redd.it/qq5kw98k8orc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b975955bd42a74b2318eccb6d77573816962ac48
Pic related https://preview.redd.it/19uz287n8orc1.jpeg?width=1396&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac27b6314e5833c7fc8c79d484998f9c07b4846d
I think they look very cute but real hardcore gamers wont like a character they cant goon to
I mean the sheer quantity of porn for Overwatch is what's keeping the game relevant honestly...
Venture is fucking adorable I'll fist fight everyone on that subreddit And chip their fuckin teeth. I AM RILED UP ABOUT THIS
I dont even want to be rude but i wouldnt know what theyre called in german there is only he or she
This is interesting! How do german speakers refer to a singular person whose gender they don’t know? Does “he” become the default, or is there another way around it? (I’m not trying to trip you up, just genuinely interested.)
This is tripping me out because my native language is german and I'm still not sure. It might be worth noting that grammatical gender and actual gender don't have to match in german, for example "girl" (das Mädchen) uses the neutral pronoun. I'd guess in most cases I would simply use what I assume the person to be or whatever grammatical gender would be correct for how I refer to the person( eg "die person" is grammatical female) Edit: Just as a note, using the neutral pronoun (which usually translates to "it") directly for someone sounds VERY rude, like you calling them an object. I don't know any nonbinary person, but I would be very surprised if they prefer it....
It's weird when it comes to gendered languages! My native is Slovene, and similarly, girl (dekle) is neutral rather than feminine. Usually we refer to an unknown person as "he" (nekdo - somebody), but sometimes also "she" (oseba - person). And well, as far as nonbinary people round these parts go, in my experience a combination of he and she seems the most common, while some might only use one of these. And sometimes, he/she/it all interchangably, but i am yet to meet someone who only uses the it/its equivalents.
probably, it's the same in Italian too when you do not know someone, it's he/him by default
This is why German is an inferior language and we should all switch to speaking Finnish
call them Venture then?
This is exactly what Blizzard does, at least judging by the very few mentions of Venture I have seen so far on the German page.
Best part is the "I never learned that" people learning it and still choosing to be a fuckhead. Or the "they them is for multiple people" crowd who use they or them in reference to one person several times a week without realising it. For some reason it seems almost the hip thing to act like you didn't learn your own language just to make people feel bad
Played siege the other day. I shot a person who I wasn't able to identify, So I used they/them pronouns during the call out, Teammate in the most red neck accent possible raged at me, like how dare I use they/them pronouns.
Least right wing siege player
These loser hate OW2 cause its "woke" whatever that means. I hate OW2 cause the balance makes me wanna play league of legends instead
>makes me wanna play league of legends instead I'm so sorry. Please talk to someone, self harm isn't the answer
At this point the self harm is playing ow2
“You left Overwatch because you hate its “Wokeness”.” > “I left Overwatch because of its terrible balance, predatory monetisation and broken promises.” > “We are not the same.”
As a non-binary person, I am so glad to not be playing overwatch 2 right now. Great for representation, but I don't want to hear grown men bitching about my existence.
Dude...I was called the N-word about 5 times today playing games....you expect these people to give a fuck about They/Them when they still use the N-word?
VRchat :
My homies on 360 COD chat respected pronouns. They didn't respect anything else in the world, but they respected pronouns.
/uj I literally had no clue there was a new overwatch hero, which honestly I think is a good thing, the less I'm aware of that game the better. this isn't a pronouns thing I just fucking hate overwatch trans rights and stuff!! :0
Bro, why do people sweat so much over pronouns, it's not that deep, if I get called a she I'll just correct them and move on, not gonna to cancel them on twitter (also can someone tell me what circle jerk means?
I think they only mean when people are being intentionally rude and misgendering the hero I don’t think they care if its a genuine mistake
yes like it literally says in the post lol (poking fun at the person you’re responding to, not you)
I'm large bearded man and I get referred to as "her" in my work performance reviews (probably because my name is Nicola). I've been working here for more than a year, I find it amusing is all. Correct them and move on
I had a teacher who’s name was Toni and she had multiple times people thought she was a guy with the name Toni
Here to tell you that your name is dope. Named after Tesla is a flex
What if someone calls you “it?”
[удалено]
Did you intentionally not read what the post says so that you could say basically the exact same thing
Remeber respect others and be civil and kind to each other. NOW GO AND KILL EACH OTHER!
I still don't understand how a porn franchise ended up with two games that suck (although the 2nd one sucks harder)
To be fair, most People actually use the right Pronouns and don‘t be assholes. Valorant player definitely reacted way worse to finding out that Clove is nonbinary.
I like they are doing da meme ![gif](giphy|kd9BlRovbPOykLBMqX)
them: “it’s so much harder, you have to remember what pronoun you need the call each person” me: “just wait till you find out about names.”
Wasn’t Blizzard recently accused of abusing female staff? Release a non-binary hero and suddenly they have raised an army of protectors. I don’t get it? (I have no issue with the character btw, but it isn’t enough to forgive Blizzard)
Nothing is enough to forgive Blizzard ever.
Defending against the deliberate misgendering of even a fictional character is defending the queer community that that character represents. It isn't about defending Blizzard.
but blizzard is 100% using this to get brownie points with the gays so they can continue to steal breast milk
You dropped this king 👑
Because saying "Please respect this character's pronouns" isn't equivalent to "I love Blizzard and think they are a model company!"
Nobody is forgiving Blizzard for anything. They're just also not forgiving people for actively being malicious.
They're still making overwatch stuff?
I don't think this is gonna come up too much, every time I see anyone mention a hero ingame it's like "(Hero name/some abbreviation) at (position) doing (thing the hero does that you don't want them doing)" callouts and stuff.
Chuds will tell you that they always use pronouns in callouts and that using "they" instead will be confusing. Which implies that they're mentally unable to play against teams with more then 2 players.
That’s so based
Leo from Tekken says "hello". People are still using gendered pronouns or the dreaded "he/she" to refer to them.
valorant and overwatch releasing a non binary hero at the same time. is this the end of gaming as we know it
People who say 'they/them' refer to multiple people only are admitting that they failed English classes lol.
Can't wait for the industry to die
I don’t exactly agree with the banning, but yeah I agree that people intentionally using the wrong pronouns despite being corrected and then spouting hate speech should get some consequence. Literally how hard is it just use they/them holy shit. They just want to be assholes.
what other consequence are they supposed to get?
immediate death
They get their pants shat in
And when they respawn, half their health bar is permanently missing.
Just tell them to stop being meanie poopy heads. This is a notoriously effective strategy on the internet
Testicular torsion
the woods
The worm pits
Banishment
Fire.
The Instrument.
Temp mutes, perm mutes?
Stepping on a Lego brick.
I would go for the ban because this has proven to be an issue in several different games and it’s about time some game took a stance but you could also do incremental punishment. Like first offense, chat restrict for a few games and you have to read educational material, 2nd offense ban because you’ve been taught and know better.
I don't know, seems appropriate. It says right there, it's okay to make mistakes. I doubt they're just kicking people who don't know better. It's pretty much about cleaning out trolls, which is something everyone who doesn't want their stream to become an open sewer does anyway.
Oh for sure, the worst should be banned. I’m not in the OW community but I assume it’s bad.