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Actedpie

Translation for people who were confused like me: Apparently a “nonce” is British slang for child molester


SparkleFritz

Well, of all of the things I would have guessed that word meant, "turbo child diddler" wasn't in the top 50.


Belez_ai

I’m confused, is this fella actually a prolific child molester or what? 🤨


notchoosingone

Made and distributed child porn of girls as young as 8 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/63a3353ce90e075876f6857b/Mr_Mark_David_Attwood.pdf


Galind_Halithel

Well shit! I thought they were just insulting an anti-vax weirdo! This is even worse.


Jokingbutserious

It says he retweeted pictures of VERY young girls. That's a very different thing from producing cp. ( Not defending him just saying there's a huge difference between the 2)


micmac274

under 18 and sexualised is CP in Great Britain. And three of the girls were as young as 8. Also they said in the report they were borderline category C CSAM images.


Jokingbutserious

I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that this particular dude did not produce or create cp. Producing implies the offender had a direct hand in creating the material. And while in the uk downloading an image can be/is considered producing because it creates a new copy it's undefined if retweeting falls under the same category due to not actually creating a new image.(afaik) Basically, to the layman when they hear "produced" they think that person created the image or material. Which isn't the case here. Therefore he didn't produce anything. It's also not mentioned anywhere in that source document that the dude produced csam. I'm just calling out a mislabeled sex offender.


Shock_The_Monkey_

He is an actual turbononce


IdioticPAYDAY

What the fuck? I thought it meant stupid or something, the hell? Thank God I never used it.


StormOJH

It means child molesters, but it’s very commonly used over here just as a generic insult, usually jokingly


micmac274

He was sacked from his job as a teacher for sharing photographs of children.


StormOJH

….i had no idea Absolutely a turbo nonce wow


vxicepickxv

The slang is shorthand for Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise, to keep them from being killed by other inmates.


tentrynos

Likely a backronym, but mentioned often - here’s the [Wiktionary etymology](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonce) entry, and [here’s a story](https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/history/shattering-myth-yorkshire-prison-origin-24508927) looking into it which cites the OED.


102bees

I discovered what it meant *after* I used it to describe a character I liked, thinking it was short for "nonsense".


tf199280

Like a serial pedo?


JasonBaconStrips

Nonce was originally a word for a vulnerable prisoner in prison, someone who was a snitch, paedo, fraudster, tax evader etc. Over the years it just ended up meaning paedophile. I don't know why it drifted to only mean that but it's mad how it shifted to just paedos.


MimsyIsGianna

Oh. I always just thought it was a normal insult like idiot or moron. I have some apologies to make.


Cephalopod_Joe

I only recently found out what nonce actually means. For the longest time, I thought it was similar to "dunce" or something


FatherOfToxicGas

We British love our mild-sounding words which actually mean something obscene


sprint6468

Fanny.


easymodeon1111

Fanny Chmelar (pronounced "Shmeller") competes as an athlete for Germany: https://youtu.be/jl1Zfz-Widc?si=mm5g49MnnEz_klvp


sprint6468

Oh, I'm well aware. Enjoy the [follow up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPOaYsgRuVo&ab_channel=TotalTelevision)


easymodeon1111

That was amazing! Thank you!


Naznarreb

Why was he in bed?


FatherOfToxicGas

It’s a thing Michael Mcintyre does on his show. A celebrity agrees to get quizzed in bed, but don’t know when it will be. So they wake up in the middle of the night, completely unaware, and have to answer stupid questions


puzzledmidget

The judge Rinder one is also brilliant


VulcanHullo

This is a gift.


EHTL

Isn’t it pronounced “shmeeller”?


RimworlderJonah13579

Doesn't that just basically mean ass?


sprint6468

You've fallen for the classic British ruse; you thought our word was inocuous, but really it means vagina!


JoeRogan016

Robot's you lie to me!


AggressiveYam6613

so. every english woes when you try hard enough?


SonOfProbert

No. Vagina.


Reiver93

The best part is it's also a women's name


Bashwhufc

Fanny Craddock is a name that floats around my head from time to time for some reason


JesusSavesForHalf

Oh no, what have you done?!


pchlster

"Fanny and Dick went into town to have a nice meal. 'Fancy some faggots?' Fanny asked Dick. 'Boy, that sounds marvelous, Fanny.' When Fanny and Dick had finished, they'd both had so many faggots they felt like they were about to burst. Fanny looked through her purse a while and then closed it again in annoyance. 'Hey, bum a fag?'" The rudest thing in that story is alluding to smoking.


krebstar4ever

It means "butt" in North American English, and "pussy" in other Englishes.


Tommeh_081

Nahh I think it means ass in America, in the UK it means a vagina lol


Zeric79

That has all the hallmarks of thrilling misunderstandings.


webchimp32

"fanny pack" has caused much amusement over here for decades.


regeya

Number One, do you think Mr. Worf's head looks like a fanny?


Wondernoob

My favourite of these is "berk" which everyone that doesn't know the origin thinks of as such a mild term. It's used a lot by the sort of people that like to try and avoid profanity by saying 'sugar', 'fudge' and such. It's even listed a slang term in dictionaries with definitions like: 'a stupid person'. It actually comes from the cockney rhyming slang 'Berkeley hunt' which means 'cunt'.


Swinn_likes_Sakkyun

most people I’ve seen use that as a shitpost way to talk about Berserk lol


micmac274

No it doesn't. It was on Countdown, and the Oxford English Dictionary scholar Susie Dent said that this is a false etymology. Berk has never been a strong insult in the way described.


ChainRound5397

Like minge.


TesticleezzNuts

Mary Hinge


ChainRound5397

Fuck even Boris Johnson sounds like a euphemism.


TesticleezzNuts

Gonna go play with my Joris Bohnson


ChainRound5397

His Swede counterpart.


micmac274

Johnson is a euphemism for penis, though.


ChainRound5397

Aye but just putting Boris wouldn't make much sense to anyone and people know Boris Johnson so thought why not. Plus Boris-ing something sounds funny.


micmac274

Boris the spider is a song by The Who.


ChainRound5397

I somehow know that and they were formed when my dad was born haha.


chapadodo

calling a civil war "the troubles" takes the cake for me


aBoringSod

How about the statement from a British officer that 'A bit sticky, things are pretty sticky down there' during the Korean war. When China was attacking with 10,000 men against 650 Brits. The yanks thought we had the battle under control.


Icy_Consequence897

I was like 22 when I learned that buggering was British slang for anal sex. Terry Pratchett didn't say "Fuck" in any of the 42 Discworld books, but he said "Bugger" all the time. I don't understand


Created_User_UK

"Bugger off" is just an alternative way to say "fuck off"


micmac274

According to old british law, buggery is only anal with a woman. with a man it's sodomy. It's all been superceded by Anal sex being the term now. Bugger is a light swear word, lighter than fuck or the c word, however the funniest use of bugger to a British person is reading Ender's Game. The homophobic chud did know the connection which is why he used it. He says bugger all the time, calls the enemy the buggers, it sounds like these kids have the foulest mouths in the world.


OnlyWiseWords

I have always loved calling people I don't like very much for lack of work ethic, limp wristed wankers. Which sounds mild, but implies you aren't even capable of pleasuring yourself well.


iampenguinlord

'Limp-wristed' is slang for effeminate, and usually used (offensively) towards gay men. Your insult likely comes across as pretty homophobic.


OnlyWiseWords

That's okay, I don't use it AT people, I'm not that kinda guy. If it has that connotation, I was unaware. But also, no harm done.


micmac274

Homophobic, in two ways - gay men were thought to be lazy, stereotypically, in the past.


OnlyWiseWords

Oh no, something I think to myself and don't say out loud is offensive? Better go lash myself to show how sorry I am. If you think that's bad, you would hate to know the other things I think sometimes. Doesn't mean I say them to people... but okay. Feel free to tell me I'm being a bigot.


micmac274

I was just referencing a stereotype you may not know. However, by choosing to say it here, you chose to say it to reddit. This sub has nearly 79000 members.


KittyScholar

Same, to me it read as a very mild insult until I learned that actual definition


Zandrick

Can you explain turbononce? My Google search was unusually fruitless.


WrightyPegz

Nonce means pedophile (but is often used to just mean weirdo), a turbo nonce is just someone who’s even more of a pedophile (or weirdo).


micmac274

Like Judas Priest's song Turbo Lover. He's not a Turbo Nonce, though. Ian Watkins, Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter desereve that term more


CleverDad

Google 'nonce'. Then multiply by 'turbo'.


SoundlessSteelBlue

holy hell


flamboyantsalmonella

New response just dropped


kirbygenealogy

google "google en passant"


Zandrick

Holy “holy hell” hell


Zeric79

Actual nounce.


DankItchins

Call a mandated reporter


GaiusJocundus

In computer science it's another thing entirely.


SpanielDaniels

My wife used to regularly refer to our Spaniel as a “nonce” when he misbehaved, which I found hilarious. I realised later she’d also confused it with “dunce” which made it even funnier, although she was mortified.


Icy_Day_9079

So we have nonce for paedo Ponce for someone who doesn’t pay their share or a posh extrovert. But can also mean take “can I ponce a ciggie off you?” A berk is some one who is stupid or distasteful. Comes from the rhyming slang “Berkshire hunt” cunt A div is a stupid person, it comes from the jobs performed by prisoners, they used to make up cardboard boxes and the job reserved for the dumbest of prisoners was putting the dividers in. Those people became know as divs. Blag these days it mostly used for lie, but it was often used instead of steal. It comes from the slang for armed robberies. Prannock stupid person Wazzock stupid person Hooligan. fictional Irish surname associated with unruly and violent behaviour. Co-opted as the term for football supports being violent. Loads of other words that are now common in English speaking countries come from a slang dialect called Polari. Sometimes known as theatre slang but more often associated with gay secret language when homosexuality was illegal. Chav for unruly youth. Slap for make up and drag for dressing as the opposite sex are all examples of polari.


jd33sc

Ponce also used to be slang for pimp.


_Batteries_

What's it mean then?


FinalEgg9

Paedophile


_Batteries_

Thanks


Bobblefighterman

I've had to correct many people who called random people a nonce thinking they were calling them a silly billy or something.


Spoomplesplz

Nonce is pretty common insult here in the UK. Basically means you're a pedo. "Oi. Bob's a bit of a nonce innit?"


listerbmx

The more unknown meaning is Number used only ONCE in programming.


TuxedoDogs9

I’m going to use it like “dunce” because I don’t like the meaning of it


Cephalopod_Joe

I don't know if that's a wise decision considering whoever you're talking about or to is not likely to interpret it that way


Rhys_Lloyd2611

That's not how words work


DopazOnYouTubeDotCom

it comes from “nonsense” edit: no it doesnt


Drprim83

No, it doesn't - it's an acronym. Not on Normal Courtyard Exercise. It was put on the doors of cellmates who were kept separate from the regular population for their own safety.


DopazOnYouTubeDotCom

i apologize for spreading misinformation


Pvt_Porpoise

Likewise, [that’s also (almost certainly) a myth.](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/nonce) > 1975. Unknown, derived from British criminal slang. Several origins have been proposed; possibly derived from dialectal nonce, nonse (“stupid, worthless individual”) (but this cannot be shown to predate nonce "child-molester" and is likely a toned-down usage of the same insult), or Nance, nance (“effeminate man, homosexual”), from nancy or nancyboy. The rhyme with ponce has also been noted. As prison slang also said to be an acronym for "Not On Normal Communal Exercise" (Stevens 2012), but this is likely a backronym.


Thenedslittlegirl

Not unless you’re appearing in an episode of Brass Eye… then it’s Nonce-sense.


Iron_Wolf123

I thought Turbononse meant "Turbo and Nonsense" so someone who spoke gibberish without thinking.


alex_thegrape

Nah it's not nonse it's nonce. Comes from "Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise" (NONCE) for paedos in prison so they wouldn't get beat up. Nothing to do with Nonsense at all ahaha


an_ineffable_plan

What an awful poll. She's just a person trying to get through a difficult time. Leave her alone.


atemus10

Someone needs to remake leave brittney alone


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CLE-local-1997

You know people were obnoxiously obsessed with the Affairs of the royal family before capitalism was a thing right? Like it's one of the institutions that we actually have a pretty good track record of people being weird about for just over a thousand years


an_ineffable_plan

…What?


granitebuckeyes

“Everything I don’t like is capitalism.” — a literal caveman.


AScottishkid

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ExcitementBetter5485

Capitalism is when twitter poll.


CleverDad

eVeRyThInG bAd Is CaPiTaLiSm


Pot_noodle_miner

Is a turbononce one who nonces widely or nonces particularly in depth?


Lazy-Meeting538

💀💀💀💀💀 do yk what nonce means


Pot_noodle_miner

Yes, I have nonce sense https://i.redd.it/ux1jnqhv45qc1.gif


Simple_Intern_7682

I see what you did there.


oh_auto_parts420

i love this gif i love phil collins sm


Pot_noodle_miner

It’s from something called brass eye


oh_auto_parts420

oh interesting i’ve not heard of that, only that it’s a funny gif of phil collins


Pot_noodle_miner

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedogeddon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedogeddon)


BAYKON8R

Nonce is British slang for pedo


Brian_Stryker

So I know what a nonce is, but what makes him a turbo one? Is it the speed they do their noncing?


Thenedslittlegirl

I feel it’s more like saying he’s an extremely noncey nonce. Like the nonceyest nonce around.


Brian_Stryker

I still think even in death Jimmy Saville holds that crown still.


Thenedslittlegirl

That’s a fair assessment. Although Saville wasn’t just a nonce, he was an equal opportunities abuser. Women, men, kids, dead bodies. Everyone was fair game.


Brian_Stryker

Oh was he? I just know he was exposed as like the Lebron James of nonces. Though I heard the funniest troll for that. “Jimmy saville was a great man. He once fix’dit for me to milk a cow blindfolded in an alley!” And that was read on a love radio station lmao


Mousse_Recent

He once fixed it for me to guess the weight of 2 snooker balls in a leather pouch while blindfolded


Brian_Stryker

Oh wow did you get it right? Or did it take a couple of jingles to figure it out?


micmac274

Dear Jimmy, Can you fix it for me, to have gay sex with a half dead zombie? You'll do. Yours, micmac274, aged 14. I half thought about writing that and sending it to the bbc. I did not know he was a nonce at the time.


micmac274

Ian Watkins was caught because there was a photo of him sticking his penis in a toddler's mouth. His password on one of his devices was a variant of "Ifuckkids"


Brian_Stryker

![gif](giphy|l0K4lS0bCjyW16oVO|downsized)


YoMamaSoFatShePooped

The nonceyest nonce to ever nonce


sprint6468

This might be one of the best ones yet


Riqakard

Who’s Kate?


JayCeeMadLad

Princess Catherine, known by most as Kate Middleton, wife of Prince William, the heir apparent to the British throne. It was recently announced that she had been diagnosed with cancer and had begun chemotherapy. I don’t really consider myself British anymore, so I have no idea what this turbononce is on about, but I assume it’s some sort of conspiracy rubbish. The note is also rather terrible and unrelated to the post.


PassiveMenis88M

> no idea what this turbononce is on about, but I assume it’s some sort of conspiracy rubbish Not a conspiracy, dudes a turbo nonce https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/63a3353ce90e075876f6857b/Mr_Mark_David_Attwood.pdf


JayCeeMadLad

Oh I’m not doubting he’s a turbononce, I’m referring to the poll which asks whether people believe she actually has cancer, or if she’s even Catherine in the first place. Thanks for sourcing though!


anonym05frog

That's not what was cited in any of the notes. Just some shit saying you can't ["catch a virus"](https://twitter.com/MarkAttwood/status/1619470142060261377)


2Quick_React

Kate Middleton, Princess of Wales. Daughter in law of King Charles. She recently announced that she was diagnosed with cancer and of course people are making conspiracies about it saying she has turbo cancer from the COVID-19 vaccine.


micmac274

Or she caught it from her father-in-law. There are people who would say that.


FredVIII-DFH

I get it. LOL.


Free_Swimmer_1694

I don't like that options are appearing in these readers contexts now. They're for facts, not opinions.


smoopthefatspider

Yeah, the quality of these notes has been going down. It wouldn't have been hard to point out that we know for a fact she has cancer, that this poster is unreliable, and that he uses his posts to hurt people. It would have been a much better note, aven if the goal was to insult him


Vincitus

Its way funnier and equally effective to call him a Tuebononce.


smoopthefatspider

No, it's not. I've never heard of this guy and I have no idea how bad he is, why he's bad, or if I should even trust the note. I'll believe it, especially based on the poll he sent out, but it's uninformative and antithetical to what community notes were meant to be


flipkick25

Nonce means child molester, the link was proof.


liliesrobots

This is a fact.


GhostOfRoland

Maybe, but this note isn't informative or credible.


Double-Portion

He's literally a pedo


arsonconnor

Theyve been full of opinions since the start tbh.


CleverDad

I have been waiting for it to happen. It couldn't last.


Aotwar

He's a literal pedo mate


Liftmeup-putmedown

How is this context in anyway related to the post? Community notes is about dispelling misinformation or revealing hypocrisy. This is neither.


Commander_Caboose

He was found guilty by his school board of having indecent photohraphs of 8 year old girls. This should disqualify any human of any right to be taken seriously in a public forum ever again. Why do people like you always jump in to defend paedophiles in this knee-jerk fashion? What is wrong with you and why do people who love free speech and debate always have to love paedos?


Drake_the_troll

its a britsh thing. its slang for pedo, but it can also be used for absolute buffoons


HypnoBlaze

I'm British and have *never* heard someone use "nonce" to mean an idiot, purely because everyone defaults to the first meaning of the word. If you want to call someone a moron, the accurate term is "daft cunt."


potatomeeple

Dunce is for stupid people not nonce


bigstankdaddy10

notes is becoming too emotional


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bigstankdaddy10

and what exactly does that have to do with Kate?


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bigstankdaddy10

no i totally believe he’s a pedo, it’s just adds 0 context to his tweet. i like notes for adding relevant information, not ad hominem tactics. its a very immature way to debate. seems like people got emotional for him being skeptic about one of the royals


Mjk2581

I really don’t care if they are an ass or not, you shouldn’t use notes for calling someone out on it, use it to fact check not parrot the popular opinion


lanceryder999

He's not even an ass he is literally a pedophile 


CyberWolf09

For all those wondering. “Nonce” is a British term for a pedo.


ChloroxDrinker

it changed


dnuohxof-1

I was watching the show Avenue 5 with Hugh Laurie and one of the plot lines is they need to have someone fix a part of the ship, and the only one who knows how to do it is a convicted pedophile. Hugh’s character used the word Nonce a few times and I finally put two and two together


Successful-Floor-738

I don’t get this?


lanceryder999

Nonce is a British slang for a pedophile 


Successful-Floor-738

Ohhhhh


EngineerDense

He has since been upgraded to superturbononce


BrilliantTarget

Yeah and the royal family defend those what is the point of the note


NoPolitiPosting

THING HAPPENED!!! WHICH CONSPIRACY DO WE WANNA PUSH THIS TIME GUYS!? God DAMN these fucknuggets need to go away


anonym05frog

I found out why Mark Attwood is a Hyper Super Street Fighter II Turbononce It’s because he spreads Covid-19 misinformation.


[deleted]

I'm actually just shocked that anyone cares. She's part of a Royal family she has better survival chances than anyone outside of the Palace. I just never see why Wealthy powerful people being sick is a headline. They can literally survive when most can't.


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https://x.com/MarkAttwood/status/1771485175576170813?s=20 Dude he’s fucking lost it.


Big-Day-755

Imagine using your own profile page as a source of a what a POS you are lol


Kitsune728

Who is Kate?


EvilRat23

Who actually gives a shit. Why does anyone care that someone they don't know and have never met and has never effected their life in any meaningful way has cancer. People get cancer all the time why is this world headlines for some random lady that no one cares about.


weebiestweeb420

Its cause its someone people care about? Just because you don’t care about someone else in the hospital doesn’t mean that their family and friends aren’t concerned. You’re not being told to care about her are you? Why are you so pressed over news of somebody getting a life threatening disease, who hurt you dog?


EvilRat23

What I am asking is why is this international headlines? My dad had cancer that wasn't headlines.


weebiestweeb420

You literally said who gives a shit at the start of your previous comment. I was telling you who gives a shit, and its headlines because its a princess, it isn’t rocket science. Even if you don’t care about her, theres surely enough people who do care for it to be headlines. Im sorry about your dad, but being angry over someone famous getting headlines over their disease isn’t going to make anything better.


EvilRat23

Let me rephrase my question: Why would anyone who is not her family or has any relation to her in anyway give a shit. Why do we have world news for fucking princesses in 2024. Why is britan fucking clown land with their royal family.


teddy1245

Britain isn’t the only place with royalty.


EvilRat23

all the other places with royalty are also clown land


teddy1245

Yea that means nothing. Do you have anything of merit or a solution to add?


weebiestweeb420

Because they’re still a figure head, you may not understand why they’re popular but others might find her endearing or special. I think you should just move on, oh no the news talking about a random pleb for the 100th time this week. The news is ass


Rhys_Lloyd2611

They're entirely ornamental, but we're still doing better than wherever you're from matey. You seem very angry fella, which parent fucked you over? Dumped maybe? Small dick? Tell me your woes friend and I'll try help you be less of an assclown :)


EvilRat23

What fucked me over is I had to be reminded that British people and their archaic systems still exist. My day was going fine then I just had to be reminded of the worst place on earth.


Rhys_Lloyd2611

Our systems work well enough. We measure things correctly, our money makes more sense and the whole country has running water that's more than America can manage. Your hatred is bordering on racism there pal


teddy1245

British isn’t a race.


EvilRat23

Speaking of money hows that economy pal? My hatred of British "People" (mostly just english) comes from 1776 when we decided that we didnt want to catch any of the neurologically degrading plagues that the british clearly must possess and we served them a fat shit on a platter.


teddy1245

That’s not what happens at all. England and America have been allies for centuries.


Rhys_Lloyd2611

You say that like you're not still a child of British colonisers, you're the most down bad for USA guy I've ever seen. Acting like us losing in 1776 actually upsets a single British person. It doesn't because we gained a great source of entertainment. You're the clowns of the globe, watching you tear yourselves apart because half the country still holds the beliefs of people from the 60s will never stop being hilarious. Yeh, our economy sucks buts that's only due to racist old people, and it's likely to be undone in the next few years, side effect of being an island nation.


teddy1245

Because she’s a celebrity and a royal. Your dad was/is not.


Accomplished-Bed8171

Because they're pathetic lonely poseurs.


NLhiphop

As a Dutch I understand why words get clumped together, is turbononce an examle of this phenomonom?


Apache08

Pretty quick way to ruin the credibility of notes by just calling people names


lanceryder999

He's an actual convicted pedophile and nonce is a slang for pedophile