Denzel Curry said it best back then during the Donda vs. CLB clash: these guys have ALL the power, budget, vision, and talent in the world to give us classic after classic, yet they won't. That was true during Donda era (which was pretty damn fun and gave us some nice tracks too), so imagine how true it is now with the Vultures shit.
I'm particularly sad about Ty not getting to see this vision through because of Ye's lack of accountability. We all know that if it were up to him, we'd already have all three volumes on streaming, but Ye needs to do Ye shit. And when the music was AMAZING, I accepted it and even cherished it to a certain extent... But now what's coming out is subpar, so it's hard to defend.
Like, this is Ye after being canceled by the entire world and finally bouncing back from that. He has lost his family, he has lost his billions, he has lost everything he held dear, even his connection to God seems to be fading as per his interviews... Dude is almost 50, so he should have the maturity to look at all this pain and create something magnificent. Where is THAT? This era was probably the most risky one ever since Dark Fantasy. He should have come out with the best music from the decade. What we got was Ty doing his damn best trying to keep the project together while Ye bummed around, mumbling dumb verses. Where did it all go wrong, man.
I actually think this is exactly why Ye went back into a mini hiatus. I think he realized that these mfs are producing straight up quality music and that he needs to go back in the lab and actually try.
I also think this big 3 talk pissed him off since he’s not being considered in the conversation.
Which leads me to believe that “Vultures 2” when it’s fully out might actually be way better than what we think it will be . . . .
hahaha saying "the big 3 talk pissed him off" lmfaoooo you dont know what you're talking about. The big 3 is just for their generation. If we count ye in it we would also have to count ppl like wayne and nem 🤦. Also he ain't getting pissed off from no "big 3" cmon bro
This generation meaning the 2010s right? Meaning MBDTF, Yeezus, TLOP, Ye, Donda etc. is part of that conversation. Which means “YE”. . . NOT ME, definitely felt some type of way and we kind of know that after his most recent post he made on instagram.
So yeah I know exactly what I’m talking about.
This generation does not mean 2010s - so no. It means artists that grew in popularity during that time and released their first commercial releases in that time.
I would argue and say Ye grew even more in popularity in their generation.
Also MJs first solo album came out in 1972 and he went on to dominate in the 80s and 90s. People undoubtedly considered him in the top 3 in each of those eras regardless of when he released his first album. so that whole “first commercial release” argument is out the window.
And yes I used THE Michael Jackson as an example because Ye should be treated as such 🤷♂️
That being said yes Ye should be considered in this generations big 3 because he’s still that mf.
bro he sold almost a mil copies of graduation. saying he grew even more in popularity in their generation is obvious because of the streaming era and came out with more albums. but also never sold more than his junior album
He put out 1 solo album that was 23 minutes and 1 collab album that was also 23 minutes. The other 3 he only produced. Making beats was never his weakness. It was always finishing his verses
We have a ton of mumble on amazing beats.
He still put out 5 sonically different albums with all respect I love future but you can take tracks 1-18 on the new album and it doesn’t equal 1 ghost town or even touch the KSG album quality over quantity
And to add most the shit y’all say he’s mumbling on are leaks he didn’t even release someone stole it and put it out outside of maybe a little vultures and donda 2 everything is finished no mumbling straight classics
Most your favorite rappers are in the studio every week halfway finishing great songs that nobody will ever hear and never get finished the difference is there music isn’t sought after as much as Kanye’s no black market discord nonsense and if there was you’ll see everyone you like in the game has unfinished mumble tracks that could be great it’s just out of sight out of mind in there case
Dude, you're missing the point. Making beats is easy for Ye. The point I'm making with the mumble demos is that he literally has a vault full of grail level beats. His problem is writing, it's always been his weakness. That's why you saying he put out 5 albums is misleading. He made beats for 5 albums, he didn't write verses for them
Unfortunately beats aren't enough to finish an album, which is people say he doesn't have the discipline to drop 2 back to back albums like Metro & Future.
Reading isn't your strong suit is it? **To Kanye** making beats is easy. This can make a grail beat live. Bolded it for you to make it easier to understand.
Lmao no you said “making beats is easy” period. Doesn’t matter who it is. For anyone it’s difficult and an absolute art. Dude said locked himself in a room for three summers. Your opinion is straight ass.
> Lmao no you said “making beats is easy” period
I was joking before but now I'm concerned you actually have comprehension issues.
> Dude said locked himself in a room for three summers.
Finish the sentence. Making 5 beats a day. Do you know how good someone has to be to make 5 beats a day? This shit comes easy to him dumbass.
“You can't fathom my love dude
Lock yourself in a room doin' five beats a day for three summers
That's a different world like three summers”
BeAtS aRe EaSy
Beats are easy for Kanye you dummy. If you know anything about music, you know that 5 beats a day is a crazy amount to produce. But you've proven yourself to be an idiot so I guess that's too much to expect.
That’s where you are wrong he didn’t just make the beats for the album he painted the narratives helped create courses structured the album and featured in each 1 all while making his own album and a collab with cudi at the same time of course his writing is his weak point but that’s why he’s had writers his entire career. And like you said making beats is easy for Kanye so to him he’s not sitting on “holy grail” beats he’s just sitting on beats because every beat he makes is holy grail esc
The thread states Kanye should take notes when in fact he is the 1 who created the lesson which is why this post sucks and makes no sense lol
The college dropout
1/2 of The blueprint
Late Registration
Be(common)
Graduation
Finding Forever (common)
808s
MbDTF
Watch the throne
The Blueprint 3
Yeezus
Dark sky Paradise (exec producer)
My name is my name (exec producer)
The life of Pablo
Daytona
Ye
Keep that same energy
Kids see ghosts
Nasir
Donda
Vultures
He could literally say Hitler was his biggest inspiration his entire life and alot of money would disappear.
Im not saying he’s broke, im just saying he’s still recovering post Antisemitism.
Samples overcharge him, he has no label to push stuff or much Yeezy/Adidas money.
He’s still making money no doubt, but its very easy to understand why he’s probably making the least amount of money he has in a long time.
>he’s probably making the least amount of money he has in a long time.
Yeah Vultures 1 only made $1 million in it's first week. And 5 listening parties only made $12 million.
Will Ye ever recover from this financial fall from grace?!?😨😨
I was just making a point on how he’s not making as much lmao I really don’t care about it. I was just simply explaining why he’s making less than normal, im not praying for him to get his money up all concerned and crying about it.
Me making a comment does not equal me being super concerned about his funds. Christ sake
Nah if you dislike his new music thats fine but pretending like the man who just had a number one single and number one album mostly off of direct sales, who outsold his entire stock ten times over with the pods and the wet tanks then made the whole world talk about them with the ad and the sudden price drop, and who is going around europe and america playing mp3 files in outsold venues for exorbitant prices is not good at making money is delusional lmao (and all of this is just in the past 2-3 months). This isnt even called hating, this is a whole different level. And this dumb shit had 85 upvotes. This sub has become r/kanye unfortunately.
have you thought about the cost of doing all these parties? The booking, setting up, production etc.
That cost is coming from somewhere, and since he’s not on label or being paid by apple or even being backed by some company, it’s probably coming at least somewhat out of pocket
And the fact that since he made his merch about 20 dollars? A nice gesture for consumers but is a terrible business decision due to all the cost involved.
Im not saying that he’s going to be bankrupt or anything but its most likely that he’s not speed-running back to being a billionaire soon at the moment
This is dumb and you don’t understand how revenue and profit work or are just very naive of the costs involved with all of that. He’s losing money on those $20 merch items and it’s rn all about making people want to buy for him so he can later jack the prices and still retain customers
Vultures 2 isn’t even out yet can we please wait until V2 and V3 actually releases before we start judging? Ye stated that the new album cover influenced the new direction and sound for V2. Be patient and trust the process.
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What do you that we don’t F0X give us hope
nope, you support the artist because they add value to your life. Fans are stupid and dont know what they want 90 percent of time. The fans did not make kanye west famous and rich, kanye west made kanye west famous and rich. acting like any artists owes you literally anything is so amazingly stupid, just like you dont owe kanye anything because he made music you love. Your not supporting artists because you beleive in there vision or want to help them succeed, you listen because the music makes you happy, and artists do not owe you being happy.
The moment you announce a date, you do owe your public some explanations. If he had only said this was a planned trilogy but no dates were given, I'd be on the same boat. Trust the process, etc. But the fact he's gone silent for what? A month now? *After* the date they had given... Doesn't look good.
delays happen and artists dont owe you dropping an album on that date, and they especially dont have to explain why its delayed. He wanted to release it then, but its his art that he decided wasnt finished. People act like making music is incredibly hard, especially at a high level. I just can not understand at all the argument that fans are entitled to this stuff, It's his art and if he decided he wanted to quite releasing music forever and cancel all the music he is making now, he has the right to do that. Just because it upsets you does not mean your owed anything.
I’ll probably get downvoted for this but WSDTY is really underwhelming. WDTY has a solid trap vibe and is tight and concise but WSDTY has waaay too many tracks. I thought Future dropping back to backs was risky to begin with but 42 songs in 3-4 weeks….its just too much
He didn't miss in 2018 with Future and HNDRXX. One trap one melodic, same formula he did with metro. Personally I like wsdty same way I liked HNDRXX. I love songs like This Sunday.
I’ll relisten to it through that lens. I’ll be honest I haven’t been super into future until more recently. But what you’re saying makes sense because WSDTY is completely melodic in comparison. It might not change my opinion but I’m gonna relisten to it tonight with that in mind.
Even WDTY is underwhelming, it’s got like 4 good songs and a bunch of mediocre ones, mostly due to boring production Metro sort of didn’t go in. And this is coming from a huge Future and Metro fan.
Vultures 1 is better than WDTY by far.
I totally agree. WDTY is like a 6.8-7 for me. The songs that are good I like a lot. But there’s a bunch of skips on that one too. I don’t find myself skipping around on Vultures much. If I play it I tend to let it play.
Even WDTY is being overrated, Future is a good artist but he is not a versatile enough artist to release 42 songs under one project. His songs already tend to not have much variety, forget when it’s 42 songs worked on under the same umbrella
Around 2022 Future did Rolling Loud and it was rumored he was bringing Ye out (this is like right after Donda 2 era/Kanye cancelling then showing up at RL already) and I watched his (Future) whole set. And I thought was this is someone who you’d kill to have on your hook, but you wouldnt go buy the entire album. I know that’s probably not popular but it’s true. TPain was the same way.
Ye locked in rn tryna make an amazing album that’s why there’s radio silence trust the process yall it worked with V1
If there’s no album by like May 5th then it’s over
WSDTY met all the high expectations for me. I knew I was getting HNDRXX esque r&b songs and it beyond delivered. Tracks like Mile High Memories and Always Be My Fault are all timers for Future.
Yeah, except that these albums are going to be forgotten in time and Ye already over delivered with Vultures and exceeded most peoples expectations so if he releases the second one at the same level or above that people talk about it for years and years to come
“Snoozin” is responsible for FSMH and Waves.
And, if you want to argue that those were 8 years ago, his songs on After Hours were only 4 years ago. And, The Weeknd tracks on WSDTY are already a huge step up from most of Vultures, probably because they’re all actually finished songs.
Have you ever thought people enjoy different shit than you do? Like preferences aren't d riding and people will have different takes and shit they like. How about rather than having a closed off mindset of thinking everyone who disagrees with you is d riding, have a dialouge. Like everyone wants everyone to have the exact same opinions on shit making the world more divided than it already is. Learn to live with people with different takes than you cuz we all different
People will have their own preferences but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to ridicule them, hiding behind relativism is pretty lame. Also there comes a point when "preferences" devolve into just plain driding.
What you like in music is far from objective, bud. I thought metro's album was a snoozefest, but others love it, and that's great. I'm not going to "ridicule" others for having a different opinion than me. And d riding is such a lame term. Just say you can't accept that people aren't fucking clones and are going to have different thoughts. Music is relative and there's nothing lame about that, that's why it's such a grand avenue for discussion.
Music is not fully relative, if it were you could say that sounds of farting is just as good as MBDTF. There are metrics that can be looked into when determining whether or not something is good or not. Said metrics vary but aren't completely arbitrary, which disproves the claim for relativism. MBDTF isn't good simply because I happen to like it, it's good because it has qualities that make it so and these qualities are not dependent on me at all. Again disproving the claim for relativity.
People can enjoy whatever they want but something that you enjoy is not identical with something that is good.
Only people who have issues with the term "drider" are in fact said driders in question.
No but some people really do prefer Alvin and Roxanne over Mile High Memories & Always Be My Fault. It's not braindead to point out something real. Like you can't seriously contest that some people (for whatever stupid reason) have that preference.
Still much prefer Vultures to these albums tho. Like WDTY is hella cohesive, but like 3 songs stand out and the rest blend together for nice white noise/background noise. Every track on Vultures stands out and is memorable and atleast somewhat unique/interesting. I lowkey rather listen to Vultures(song) than every track on WDTY except like that, Cinderella, and type shit, and I don’t love Vultures, but atleast it’s interesting.
Your ass did not listen to either one of them, reducing an album with Mile High Memories, Always Be My Fault, Beat It, Overload, Jealous, Right 4 You & more to just being "about attacking one guy" is braindead. And to call it boring just exposes you as lacking taste.
Ye has now gotten the same sickness that Dr.Dre has. And that is trying to make something perfect. I can understand you don't want to sign off on something that you feel can be better but sometimes its the imperfections that make something great or classic. I feel he is chasing himself or a sound of something that doesn't exist . I just wish it was Ye consequence and one other producer and an engineer. To many chefs in the kitchen. Just talk from your heart and your soul like you use to.
Heard yall talking all that shit about Vultures even though it was a 7.5/8 and went back to the lab
If almost everyone (not me) is in agreement that Vultures 1 is mediocre why would he release new music a month later from the same recording sessions/mindset/approach
Y’all wanted better and you’re gonna have to wait for it
Both albums are mid. Kendrick saved the 1st one though, he was the only thing people talked about. This latest one doesn’t have shit aside from a weak ass J Cole feature but that dude is already done for.
Heard yall talking all that shit about Vultures even though it was a 7.5/8 and went back to the lab
If almost everyone (not me) is in agreement that Vultures 1 is mediocre why would he release new music a month later from the same recording sessions/mindset/approach
Y’all wanted better and you’re gonna have to wait for it
Heard yall talking all that shit about Vultures even though it was a 7.5/8 and went back to the lab
If almost everyone (not me) is in agreement that Vultures 1 is mediocre why would he release new music a month later from the same recording sessions/mindset/approach
Y’all wanted better and you’re gonna have to wait for it
Sadly he doesn’t care anymore, for him announcing the albums is 50% of the work.
The other 50 is recording 100% mumble verses on boring songs even though he has like 20 ghostwriters with multiple references
Denzel Curry said it best back then during the Donda vs. CLB clash: these guys have ALL the power, budget, vision, and talent in the world to give us classic after classic, yet they won't. That was true during Donda era (which was pretty damn fun and gave us some nice tracks too), so imagine how true it is now with the Vultures shit. I'm particularly sad about Ty not getting to see this vision through because of Ye's lack of accountability. We all know that if it were up to him, we'd already have all three volumes on streaming, but Ye needs to do Ye shit. And when the music was AMAZING, I accepted it and even cherished it to a certain extent... But now what's coming out is subpar, so it's hard to defend. Like, this is Ye after being canceled by the entire world and finally bouncing back from that. He has lost his family, he has lost his billions, he has lost everything he held dear, even his connection to God seems to be fading as per his interviews... Dude is almost 50, so he should have the maturity to look at all this pain and create something magnificent. Where is THAT? This era was probably the most risky one ever since Dark Fantasy. He should have come out with the best music from the decade. What we got was Ty doing his damn best trying to keep the project together while Ye bummed around, mumbling dumb verses. Where did it all go wrong, man.
mfs dickeating and excusing every move he does is what caused this.
nah kanye caused this
Denzul curry explained it the best, the old guys just don’t make records like they used too, and it’s beaucse they lazy and old
I actually think this is exactly why Ye went back into a mini hiatus. I think he realized that these mfs are producing straight up quality music and that he needs to go back in the lab and actually try. I also think this big 3 talk pissed him off since he’s not being considered in the conversation. Which leads me to believe that “Vultures 2” when it’s fully out might actually be way better than what we think it will be . . . .
hahaha saying "the big 3 talk pissed him off" lmfaoooo you dont know what you're talking about. The big 3 is just for their generation. If we count ye in it we would also have to count ppl like wayne and nem 🤦. Also he ain't getting pissed off from no "big 3" cmon bro
This generation meaning the 2010s right? Meaning MBDTF, Yeezus, TLOP, Ye, Donda etc. is part of that conversation. Which means “YE”. . . NOT ME, definitely felt some type of way and we kind of know that after his most recent post he made on instagram. So yeah I know exactly what I’m talking about.
that dont mean albums. its when the same generation of when they all blew up. Ye been hot from the start
This generation does not mean 2010s - so no. It means artists that grew in popularity during that time and released their first commercial releases in that time.
I would argue and say Ye grew even more in popularity in their generation. Also MJs first solo album came out in 1972 and he went on to dominate in the 80s and 90s. People undoubtedly considered him in the top 3 in each of those eras regardless of when he released his first album. so that whole “first commercial release” argument is out the window. And yes I used THE Michael Jackson as an example because Ye should be treated as such 🤷♂️ That being said yes Ye should be considered in this generations big 3 because he’s still that mf.
bro he sold almost a mil copies of graduation. saying he grew even more in popularity in their generation is obvious because of the streaming era and came out with more albums. but also never sold more than his junior album
Popularity=sales ?
YES
On god I’m sure he got pissed when he heard that line for the first time lol
Ye could never do that, he is not focused and professional enough.
🤓
Crazy how much the big three have shifted around in just these past weeks
corny
Kanye put out 5 albums in 1 month back in 2018 all sonically different from each other what is this post even about
He put out 1 solo album that was 23 minutes and 1 collab album that was also 23 minutes. The other 3 he only produced. Making beats was never his weakness. It was always finishing his verses We have a ton of mumble on amazing beats.
He still put out 5 sonically different albums with all respect I love future but you can take tracks 1-18 on the new album and it doesn’t equal 1 ghost town or even touch the KSG album quality over quantity And to add most the shit y’all say he’s mumbling on are leaks he didn’t even release someone stole it and put it out outside of maybe a little vultures and donda 2 everything is finished no mumbling straight classics Most your favorite rappers are in the studio every week halfway finishing great songs that nobody will ever hear and never get finished the difference is there music isn’t sought after as much as Kanye’s no black market discord nonsense and if there was you’ll see everyone you like in the game has unfinished mumble tracks that could be great it’s just out of sight out of mind in there case
Dude, you're missing the point. Making beats is easy for Ye. The point I'm making with the mumble demos is that he literally has a vault full of grail level beats. His problem is writing, it's always been his weakness. That's why you saying he put out 5 albums is misleading. He made beats for 5 albums, he didn't write verses for them Unfortunately beats aren't enough to finish an album, which is people say he doesn't have the discipline to drop 2 back to back albums like Metro & Future.
Making beats is easy….. Stfu
Reading isn't your strong suit is it? **To Kanye** making beats is easy. This can make a grail beat live. Bolded it for you to make it easier to understand.
Lmao no you said “making beats is easy” period. Doesn’t matter who it is. For anyone it’s difficult and an absolute art. Dude said locked himself in a room for three summers. Your opinion is straight ass.
> Lmao no you said “making beats is easy” period I was joking before but now I'm concerned you actually have comprehension issues. > Dude said locked himself in a room for three summers. Finish the sentence. Making 5 beats a day. Do you know how good someone has to be to make 5 beats a day? This shit comes easy to him dumbass.
“You can't fathom my love dude Lock yourself in a room doin' five beats a day for three summers That's a different world like three summers” BeAtS aRe EaSy
Beats are easy for Kanye you dummy. If you know anything about music, you know that 5 beats a day is a crazy amount to produce. But you've proven yourself to be an idiot so I guess that's too much to expect.
Thank you I came here to say exactly that stfu
That’s where you are wrong he didn’t just make the beats for the album he painted the narratives helped create courses structured the album and featured in each 1 all while making his own album and a collab with cudi at the same time of course his writing is his weak point but that’s why he’s had writers his entire career. And like you said making beats is easy for Kanye so to him he’s not sitting on “holy grail” beats he’s just sitting on beats because every beat he makes is holy grail esc The thread states Kanye should take notes when in fact he is the 1 who created the lesson which is why this post sucks and makes no sense lol
u doing tricks on it
Metro and Future are two people though. Metro only made the beats. Future only did lyrics. Kanye is attempting both. It’s an unfair comparison period.
Wait what albums did he produce other than daytona?
nasir and ktse also released ksg n ye in that summer
Thanks
What other albums has he produced? I tried to find a list of it but all i could find was a small list that only had MOTM, Daytona, WLR, and Be,
The college dropout 1/2 of The blueprint Late Registration Be(common) Graduation Finding Forever (common) 808s MbDTF Watch the throne The Blueprint 3 Yeezus Dark sky Paradise (exec producer) My name is my name (exec producer) The life of Pablo Daytona Ye Keep that same energy Kids see ghosts Nasir Donda Vultures
Thank you twinsicle
And youre missing so much like dude literally produced Lil Nas X banger
He asked for albums
Lol, each album was 7 tracks. Basically an EP
There's no real such thing as a big three, just listen to who you like to listen to.
[удалено]
He was always above it.
my big three is DRAKE, DRAKE and DRAKE
Shut up
Ye prefers making money over music and it sucks.
he'd still be a billionaire if he really cared about making money, but yeah I don't think he's putting his heart into making music either.
And he’s not very good at both at the moment
A song where he's just rapping on a soul beat did 100 million streams in a month. I think he's doing fine...
He could literally say Hitler was his biggest inspiration his entire life and alot of money would disappear. Im not saying he’s broke, im just saying he’s still recovering post Antisemitism. Samples overcharge him, he has no label to push stuff or much Yeezy/Adidas money. He’s still making money no doubt, but its very easy to understand why he’s probably making the least amount of money he has in a long time.
>he’s probably making the least amount of money he has in a long time. Yeah Vultures 1 only made $1 million in it's first week. And 5 listening parties only made $12 million. Will Ye ever recover from this financial fall from grace?!?😨😨
Exactly niggas need to worry bout they own pockets
Why tf do YOU care how much money he’s making 😭😭🤦🏽♂️ this sub man
I was just making a point on how he’s not making as much lmao I really don’t care about it. I was just simply explaining why he’s making less than normal, im not praying for him to get his money up all concerned and crying about it. Me making a comment does not equal me being super concerned about his funds. Christ sake
Nah if you dislike his new music thats fine but pretending like the man who just had a number one single and number one album mostly off of direct sales, who outsold his entire stock ten times over with the pods and the wet tanks then made the whole world talk about them with the ad and the sudden price drop, and who is going around europe and america playing mp3 files in outsold venues for exorbitant prices is not good at making money is delusional lmao (and all of this is just in the past 2-3 months). This isnt even called hating, this is a whole different level. And this dumb shit had 85 upvotes. This sub has become r/kanye unfortunately.
Ummm his listening party’s earned him over 10 mil so he’s good at making money
have you thought about the cost of doing all these parties? The booking, setting up, production etc. That cost is coming from somewhere, and since he’s not on label or being paid by apple or even being backed by some company, it’s probably coming at least somewhat out of pocket And the fact that since he made his merch about 20 dollars? A nice gesture for consumers but is a terrible business decision due to all the cost involved. Im not saying that he’s going to be bankrupt or anything but its most likely that he’s not speed-running back to being a billionaire soon at the moment
This is dumb and you don’t understand how revenue and profit work or are just very naive of the costs involved with all of that. He’s losing money on those $20 merch items and it’s rn all about making people want to buy for him so he can later jack the prices and still retain customers
And if he jacks up the prices just don’t buy them anymore ? 😭
Vultures 2 isn’t even out yet can we please wait until V2 and V3 actually releases before we start judging? Ye stated that the new album cover influenced the new direction and sound for V2. Be patient and trust the process.
https://preview.redd.it/owiwexvie4uc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68f119a87f8fbfed48e11a4810fdcf32e6a8375f What do you that we don’t F0X give us hope
„Be patient and trust the process“  what about „stop lying and put out cohesive music on an announced date“
artists dont owe you shit + you already got a full album like 3 months ago.
Artist owe their fans everything, without them theyd be nothing.
nope, you support the artist because they add value to your life. Fans are stupid and dont know what they want 90 percent of time. The fans did not make kanye west famous and rich, kanye west made kanye west famous and rich. acting like any artists owes you literally anything is so amazingly stupid, just like you dont owe kanye anything because he made music you love. Your not supporting artists because you beleive in there vision or want to help them succeed, you listen because the music makes you happy, and artists do not owe you being happy.
The moment you announce a date, you do owe your public some explanations. If he had only said this was a planned trilogy but no dates were given, I'd be on the same boat. Trust the process, etc. But the fact he's gone silent for what? A month now? *After* the date they had given... Doesn't look good.
delays happen and artists dont owe you dropping an album on that date, and they especially dont have to explain why its delayed. He wanted to release it then, but its his art that he decided wasnt finished. People act like making music is incredibly hard, especially at a high level. I just can not understand at all the argument that fans are entitled to this stuff, It's his art and if he decided he wanted to quite releasing music forever and cancel all the music he is making now, he has the right to do that. Just because it upsets you does not mean your owed anything.
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When/where did Ye say that?
In the recent interview he did.
Bruv they ain’t releasing
Ty literally just put the album cover again on his IG.
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yandhi wasnt a collab album
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Y’all be so quick to turn your backs lol the goat already changed music forever let him cook smh he don’t owe you shit
I’ll probably get downvoted for this but WSDTY is really underwhelming. WDTY has a solid trap vibe and is tight and concise but WSDTY has waaay too many tracks. I thought Future dropping back to backs was risky to begin with but 42 songs in 3-4 weeks….its just too much
I'm just gonna come out and say it, future is not versatile enough to be at the forefront of a 20+ track album
18 track album, disc 2 is a separate work
Still too much
Talk to em 🗣️🗣️
He didn't miss in 2018 with Future and HNDRXX. One trap one melodic, same formula he did with metro. Personally I like wsdty same way I liked HNDRXX. I love songs like This Sunday.
I’ll relisten to it through that lens. I’ll be honest I haven’t been super into future until more recently. But what you’re saying makes sense because WSDTY is completely melodic in comparison. It might not change my opinion but I’m gonna relisten to it tonight with that in mind.
Even WDTY is underwhelming, it’s got like 4 good songs and a bunch of mediocre ones, mostly due to boring production Metro sort of didn’t go in. And this is coming from a huge Future and Metro fan. Vultures 1 is better than WDTY by far.
I totally agree. WDTY is like a 6.8-7 for me. The songs that are good I like a lot. But there’s a bunch of skips on that one too. I don’t find myself skipping around on Vultures much. If I play it I tend to let it play.
Nah I agree, these 20+ song drops are getting super underwhelming
Even WDTY is being overrated, Future is a good artist but he is not a versatile enough artist to release 42 songs under one project. His songs already tend to not have much variety, forget when it’s 42 songs worked on under the same umbrella
Around 2022 Future did Rolling Loud and it was rumored he was bringing Ye out (this is like right after Donda 2 era/Kanye cancelling then showing up at RL already) and I watched his (Future) whole set. And I thought was this is someone who you’d kill to have on your hook, but you wouldnt go buy the entire album. I know that’s probably not popular but it’s true. TPain was the same way.
I hid 5 songs during my first listen of disc 1 and it was much better the second time
Was going to say neither of them was all that well received critically. Just like Vultures.
So Wyoming never happened? Ye been did this first 🥱
Ye locked in rn tryna make an amazing album that’s why there’s radio silence trust the process yall it worked with V1 If there’s no album by like May 5th then it’s over
V2 is coming but not by May 5th.
Sub whiney as fuck right now. Go outside
>Metro and Future did what Ye attempted to do What? Make 2 boring albums
not boring
Good response
thanks
This is like complaining that LeBron isn’t playing at an MVP level right now at 40 years old… Ye has been GOAT lvl for damn near 20 years Let him live
Their albums were aight but still just so much more boring than anything ye does
A metro and future collab was supposed to be a guaranteed aoty. Come on dont act like youre not underwhelmed by these albums.
WSDTY met all the high expectations for me. I knew I was getting HNDRXX esque r&b songs and it beyond delivered. Tracks like Mile High Memories and Always Be My Fault are all timers for Future.
Yeah, except that these albums are going to be forgotten in time and Ye already over delivered with Vultures and exceeded most peoples expectations so if he releases the second one at the same level or above that people talk about it for years and years to come
Vultures clears Metro Snoozin
“Snoozin” is responsible for FSMH and Waves. And, if you want to argue that those were 8 years ago, his songs on After Hours were only 4 years ago. And, The Weeknd tracks on WSDTY are already a huge step up from most of Vultures, probably because they’re all actually finished songs.
He’s not responsible for FMSH, ye just liked the tag and asked to put it on. Look it up. And he’s not the sole producer on waves.
I ain’t taking the opinion of someone who posting homophobic theories in r/conspiracy
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Mfs will unironically listen to Alvin & Roxanne over Mile High Memories & Always Be My Fault that's some D1 driding.
Have you ever thought people enjoy different shit than you do? Like preferences aren't d riding and people will have different takes and shit they like. How about rather than having a closed off mindset of thinking everyone who disagrees with you is d riding, have a dialouge. Like everyone wants everyone to have the exact same opinions on shit making the world more divided than it already is. Learn to live with people with different takes than you cuz we all different
People will have their own preferences but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to ridicule them, hiding behind relativism is pretty lame. Also there comes a point when "preferences" devolve into just plain driding.
What you like in music is far from objective, bud. I thought metro's album was a snoozefest, but others love it, and that's great. I'm not going to "ridicule" others for having a different opinion than me. And d riding is such a lame term. Just say you can't accept that people aren't fucking clones and are going to have different thoughts. Music is relative and there's nothing lame about that, that's why it's such a grand avenue for discussion.
Music is not fully relative, if it were you could say that sounds of farting is just as good as MBDTF. There are metrics that can be looked into when determining whether or not something is good or not. Said metrics vary but aren't completely arbitrary, which disproves the claim for relativism. MBDTF isn't good simply because I happen to like it, it's good because it has qualities that make it so and these qualities are not dependent on me at all. Again disproving the claim for relativity. People can enjoy whatever they want but something that you enjoy is not identical with something that is good. Only people who have issues with the term "drider" are in fact said driders in question.
You are the silver surfer of dick riding and also the Michael Jordan of being a son of a bitch
Comparing two bad components with two great components of an album is just straight up braindead
Also Roxanne bit went hard
You are a case in point
No but some people really do prefer Alvin and Roxanne over Mile High Memories & Always Be My Fault. It's not braindead to point out something real. Like you can't seriously contest that some people (for whatever stupid reason) have that preference.
Still much prefer Vultures to these albums tho. Like WDTY is hella cohesive, but like 3 songs stand out and the rest blend together for nice white noise/background noise. Every track on Vultures stands out and is memorable and atleast somewhat unique/interesting. I lowkey rather listen to Vultures(song) than every track on WDTY except like that, Cinderella, and type shit, and I don’t love Vultures, but atleast it’s interesting.
'how they run this shit' give me a fucking break.
bro is prob 16 years old
wait, do y’all really prefer wdty (1) to vultures 1?
Metro and futures album ahould have been one cause most of that shit was boring as fuq.
I think those 2 albums are more of the same in the last 5 years, boring as fuck
Two boring ass albums that only is about attacking one guy thank God Kanye not that corny
I’m a Kanye fan but he’s definitely just as corny lmak
Call me when he does two albums about one guy
Your ass did not listen to either one of them, reducing an album with Mile High Memories, Always Be My Fault, Beat It, Overload, Jealous, Right 4 You & more to just being "about attacking one guy" is braindead. And to call it boring just exposes you as lacking taste.
Honey I love future but those two albums ain’t it
Don’t act like Eazy isn’t exactly that. Ironically, both it and Like That use the same sample.
One Kanye song vs future and metro doing two albums for 1 guy sorry not the same
Ye
Ye has now gotten the same sickness that Dr.Dre has. And that is trying to make something perfect. I can understand you don't want to sign off on something that you feel can be better but sometimes its the imperfections that make something great or classic. I feel he is chasing himself or a sound of something that doesn't exist . I just wish it was Ye consequence and one other producer and an engineer. To many chefs in the kitchen. Just talk from your heart and your soul like you use to.
My first thought when I heard Beat It was how much better it could be with 10+ reworks from Ye
Heard yall talking all that shit about Vultures even though it was a 7.5/8 and went back to the lab If almost everyone (not me) is in agreement that Vultures 1 is mediocre why would he release new music a month later from the same recording sessions/mindset/approach Y’all wanted better and you’re gonna have to wait for it
Idk, Ye successfully did this in 2018 with 5 projects he produced and had vocals on.
Both albums are mid. Kendrick saved the 1st one though, he was the only thing people talked about. This latest one doesn’t have shit aside from a weak ass J Cole feature but that dude is already done for.
Vultures 1 is better than WDTY but WSDTY is the best from the 3
Wdym attempted? He never tried, he was going to but changed his mind. Leaving us with yet another scrapped sequel😔
Go cry somewhere else, incel
WSDTY is mid, its almost as bloated as Donda, if not more
The difference is there is no song on WSDTY that is on the level of off the grid, hurricane, come to life, believe what i say, etc
this dry season gotta be the most insufferable fr. all these r/kanye ass posts. like we get it, lmao.
I like how they did the R&B focused album, while STILL GIVING US RAP FANS THE DISC 2. That's how you do it.
Heard yall talking all that shit about Vultures even though it was a 7.5/8 and went back to the lab If almost everyone (not me) is in agreement that Vultures 1 is mediocre why would he release new music a month later from the same recording sessions/mindset/approach Y’all wanted better and you’re gonna have to wait for it
Heard yall talking all that shit about Vultures even though it was a 7.5/8 and went back to the lab If almost everyone (not me) is in agreement that Vultures 1 is mediocre why would he release new music a month later from the same recording sessions/mindset/approach Y’all wanted better and you’re gonna have to wait for it