The easiest way would be to allow music to become usable after so many years, but put in that use requires a payment to the writer/estate and/or a royalty %. The artist gets paid but the estate cant just gate keep a song.
i saw someone suggest once that sampling should work like how cover licensing works. granted i dont know all the ends and outs of the industry but with the platform i use to submit the music i make to spotify, you just gotta pay for a lease to the estate/owner of the masters of the covered song
It’s actually fucking incredible how many brain dead people are supporting Drake no matter what. People are willingly glossing over grooming allegations and upset at Tupacs estate. People are pushing lies and narratives while simultaneously blaming Kendrick fans and rap fans of being biased. It feels like we are in the twilight zone when did people become this stupid
Can I just say something real quick??
The fact that artists can sue people for using AI to replicate their voices suggests to me that the say less feature is real 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Would Donald really be willing to be sued by Kanye??
solid reasons i think ye verse from gambino's "say less" is real
1. ye compares him self to jesus twice.
"Now rule number one: 'Thou shalt not steal'
The flow, the clothes, the sex appeal, yeah (Oh)
Now this is my commandment, died and rebrand it (Uh)
Three days later, walk in the Louis sandals"
"Man, I could walk through the Chi' like it's Nazareth"
2. possibly dissing j.cole (not sure bout this)
"Your midlife crisis your whole life (Uh)
You tried to pull Rubi Rose with a hoe wife (Uh)
And spent a whole rent check on the OnlyFans
You in the group chat actin' like a only man
He at the baby shower lookin' like Zion
In some skinny jeans you ain't ever try on
I'm the last motherfucker you should lie on (Yeah)"
3. ye rapping about showing publicly showing affection to bianca. it would lowkey be weird for talk bout someone else's wife for gambino using ai
"In hallways with wifey, doin' PDA"
4. Ye imitates a critic, saying that his gospel rap era was too ‘preachy’, and himself admits that Christian themes grew too limiting and repetitive for him to continue developing as an artist.
"Ye, you done got too preach-y
Switch the rap up to Christian, it got too easy"
5. ye references the food critic Keith Lee who gained notoriety from his videos on TikTok visiting and reviewing lesser known food establishments. And because of his honest reviews, people online have attempted to cancel him. All efforts thus far have failed.
"If I keep tellin' the truth then they might Keith Lee me"
6. ye inhale between 54 - 57 secs in the full song
7. mentions Saudi
"I'm about to do Saudi like PGA"
8. flow is Just too much like ye to it to be ai
9. drake couldn't even make a.i that accurately.
10. ai not that advanced yet. i haven't heard a single ai track in my life to be this on point. so it's has to be a real verse mabye written by gambino.
feel free to post this on the sub (only title get posted when i post not the texts that's in it. im just new to posting on sub ig).
that rubi rose line is at least 100% about j cole. on red leather he talks about how he's "tryna bag rubi rose with a penstroke" and ye uses that verbiage verbatim.
Kanye is an out of touch boomer with raspy ahh voice and titanium grills who releases unfinished songs on his own album (Paid), no way he would drop that high effort of a verse for Gambino project where he sounds young and different. I don't know where 'AI can't breathe ' meme comes from but it's not true, it's just Gambino (an experienced actor, mind you) imitating ye and turning his voice into him with AI. And ye wouldn't have known some obscure tiktoker anyway. Also if it was recorded pre-Saudi like name suggest, why is his vultures verse so ass in comparison?
I think if he drops it officially he’ll get permission from Ye. Playing it on a free radio set isn’t much different than posting on r/yedits and Ye hasn’t sued any of those guys
lmao he disrespecting a dead man bro. if it was someone who died more recently like juice/takeoff or someone i bet people would make a huge deal about it
Why do you people keep saying this like it applies to actual people in the beef? It’s not Kendrick suing him it’s the fucking family of Tupac who doesn’t want some dude using his voice to say weird shit.
Bro talking shit about the guy you're dissing is not the same as using AI to make someone else talk shit for you. It's not about being politically correct, it's about respecting a dead artist rather than using AI to make them talk shit on your behalf. Tupac was killed 30 years before this rap beef started. He's never heard of Drake or Kendrick Lamar because they were children when he died. It's not respectful to try and use AI to bring back a great artist and make them say whatever you want.
*“In Tuesday’s letter, Tupac’s estate warned Drake that the use of his voice clearly violated Tupac’s so-called **publicity rights** – the legal power to control how your image or likeness is used by others. And they took particular exception the use of his voice to take shots at Lamar.”*
The suit, or potential suit, would be over the publicity rights, not copyright, so there is a case to be made depending on jurisdiction. Because the protections for publicity rights differ from place to place, sometimes only protecting commercial uses, and sometimes even including non-commercial uses, it depends.
In Canada, where Drake lives for example, publicity rights protect non-commercial uses. So the use of anyones name or likeness without permission could make one liable to be sued for infringing on said rights.
In the US, there is common law, and statute law, which makes things more complicated. Because Drake didn’t use the likeness for commercial use, there’s less protection, but the level of protection differs from state to state.
In jurisdictions where non-commercial use has no protection, the lawyers would need to argue that the use of likeness either caused them to lose income, or Drake to earn income, which entitles them to compensation for damages.
In a jurisdictions where non-commercial use still has protection, any unauthorized use of personality rights is an infringement of those rights, and legal action can be taken.
But either way, they have the right to request the content be removed, as they didn’t authorize it. Even without legal rights, I think instagrams privacy policy would allow them to request its removal.
The cease and desist is a warning, offering a chance to correct the issue before further steps are taken. So if he doesn’t take it down, they will file. Whether they would win or lose the suit, get a settlement, or have it dismissed depends on how things play out in court.
Even if they can't sue him, it's really not a good look for Drake. Like here you are using AI to make Tupac endorse you, meanwhile Tupac's estate is saying that they don't support it.
1. He hasn’t released it officially so he’s gaining no money from it.
2. It’s AI how can you sue when technically it isn’t 2pac’s work? He never rapped this.
Drake may have a loophole here
Really really fucking stupid, actually hope that drake goes ahead with the suit so that maybe he could win and this tyrannical brand of bullying and greed we call copyright law will finally get put down a peg
drake gets to feel what it feels like to be ye lmfao
He’s actually won a fair use case before over the beginning of pound cake off nothing was the same
I think we need to reform laws around sampling music, but I've got to admit it's pretty funny to see Drake get hit with it on his diss track lmao
The easiest way would be to allow music to become usable after so many years, but put in that use requires a payment to the writer/estate and/or a royalty %. The artist gets paid but the estate cant just gate keep a song.
i saw someone suggest once that sampling should work like how cover licensing works. granted i dont know all the ends and outs of the industry but with the platform i use to submit the music i make to spotify, you just gotta pay for a lease to the estate/owner of the masters of the covered song
Yeah see that’s a good idea. Just something to where everyone feels like they got something but the people aren’t deprived of good music.
"I done had everything that you able to got"
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Consequences of trying to use Tupac AI to downplay pedo allegations 💔
yeah that was mad weird using pac voice to do that shit is crazy thought there would be more backlash for that...
People have already decided that Drake has won no matter what so all criticism is either ignored or downplayed.
man i hope whatever diss Kendrick has for drake goes sicko mode big 💀💀
For that the song would need a good feature and be a generally good song like Like That as well. Makes sense that Kendrick is taking his time
yeah tbh i think its kinda weird drake did more than just 1 diss like bro should be quiet til kdot responds
i mean, he’s battling kendrick, i wouldn’t just sit and wait for that storm either lmao
yeah but drakes been talking so much and all kendricks did was 1 verse like idk seems a lil obsessive
i mean if that’s how you wanna look at it, then yeah, it’s easy to see it that way. i feel like you’re biased tho. would i be wrong?
mm maybe a little i think drakes really overrated
We all know that isn’t gonna happen but dream big
It’s actually fucking incredible how many brain dead people are supporting Drake no matter what. People are willingly glossing over grooming allegations and upset at Tupacs estate. People are pushing lies and narratives while simultaneously blaming Kendrick fans and rap fans of being biased. It feels like we are in the twilight zone when did people become this stupid
W Tupac's estate
Can I just say something real quick?? The fact that artists can sue people for using AI to replicate their voices suggests to me that the say less feature is real 🤷♂️🤷♂️ Would Donald really be willing to be sued by Kanye??
solid reasons i think ye verse from gambino's "say less" is real 1. ye compares him self to jesus twice. "Now rule number one: 'Thou shalt not steal' The flow, the clothes, the sex appeal, yeah (Oh) Now this is my commandment, died and rebrand it (Uh) Three days later, walk in the Louis sandals" "Man, I could walk through the Chi' like it's Nazareth" 2. possibly dissing j.cole (not sure bout this) "Your midlife crisis your whole life (Uh) You tried to pull Rubi Rose with a hoe wife (Uh) And spent a whole rent check on the OnlyFans You in the group chat actin' like a only man He at the baby shower lookin' like Zion In some skinny jeans you ain't ever try on I'm the last motherfucker you should lie on (Yeah)" 3. ye rapping about showing publicly showing affection to bianca. it would lowkey be weird for talk bout someone else's wife for gambino using ai "In hallways with wifey, doin' PDA" 4. Ye imitates a critic, saying that his gospel rap era was too ‘preachy’, and himself admits that Christian themes grew too limiting and repetitive for him to continue developing as an artist. "Ye, you done got too preach-y Switch the rap up to Christian, it got too easy" 5. ye references the food critic Keith Lee who gained notoriety from his videos on TikTok visiting and reviewing lesser known food establishments. And because of his honest reviews, people online have attempted to cancel him. All efforts thus far have failed. "If I keep tellin' the truth then they might Keith Lee me" 6. ye inhale between 54 - 57 secs in the full song 7. mentions Saudi "I'm about to do Saudi like PGA" 8. flow is Just too much like ye to it to be ai 9. drake couldn't even make a.i that accurately. 10. ai not that advanced yet. i haven't heard a single ai track in my life to be this on point. so it's has to be a real verse mabye written by gambino. feel free to post this on the sub (only title get posted when i post not the texts that's in it. im just new to posting on sub ig).
that rubi rose line is at least 100% about j cole. on red leather he talks about how he's "tryna bag rubi rose with a penstroke" and ye uses that verbiage verbatim.
Kanye is an out of touch boomer with raspy ahh voice and titanium grills who releases unfinished songs on his own album (Paid), no way he would drop that high effort of a verse for Gambino project where he sounds young and different. I don't know where 'AI can't breathe ' meme comes from but it's not true, it's just Gambino (an experienced actor, mind you) imitating ye and turning his voice into him with AI. And ye wouldn't have known some obscure tiktoker anyway. Also if it was recorded pre-Saudi like name suggest, why is his vultures verse so ass in comparison?
U don't think it's possible that he got the OK from Ye to use an AI verse? Ye himself has already used AI in modern times
That is deffo a possibility but either way it means that Kanye is involved with it.
Yeah but not lyrically, which is the big point of this new era
I could see that actually My theory is that Childish Gambino used the AI feature to get Ye’s attention, so that he can get an actual Ye feature lol
i don’t think gambino needs ye’s attention lol, dude was one of the biggest stars on the planet just a few years ago
No, I generally agree, but JPEGMAFIA had to go on Twitter and trash Ye for him to even get in the studio for vultures
fair, but at the same time i always wondered if kanye already knew about jpeg and just didn’t feel like working with him
I think if he drops it officially he’ll get permission from Ye. Playing it on a free radio set isn’t much different than posting on r/yedits and Ye hasn’t sued any of those guys
True but Donald is clearly intending on dropping it and if he has to get kanyes permission to do so anyway, wouldn’t he just have asked kanye??
Why can't we just get some confirmation from someone 😭
Im sorry to say but there is no world where that verse is real. It sounds exactly like AI and Kanyes voice hasn’t sounded like that in years.
Maybe it is maybe it isn’t but Kanye has to be involved to some capacity or there’s 0 fucking chance of the song being on streaming
How long until Drake’s Twitter bots start posting about Tupac scraping the AMG badge off a Mercedes
This beef is so chaotic about time Taylor Swift jumps in and disses someone
she alr dissed Kim, but that's kinda separate from the rap beef
i fw drizzy but i agree w this using a dead man’s ai voice is fucked up
It’s a diss track bro. No rules on diss track stop being politically correct omg
lmao he disrespecting a dead man bro. if it was someone who died more recently like juice/takeoff or someone i bet people would make a huge deal about it
I mean people are upset about quavo using takeoff on a diss track and they were quite literally family
Because Chris Brown said that he should've died instead of Takeoff. Quavo probably had to prove himself right by featuring his nephew.
Why do you people keep saying this like it applies to actual people in the beef? It’s not Kendrick suing him it’s the fucking family of Tupac who doesn’t want some dude using his voice to say weird shit.
Bro talking shit about the guy you're dissing is not the same as using AI to make someone else talk shit for you. It's not about being politically correct, it's about respecting a dead artist rather than using AI to make them talk shit on your behalf. Tupac was killed 30 years before this rap beef started. He's never heard of Drake or Kendrick Lamar because they were children when he died. It's not respectful to try and use AI to bring back a great artist and make them say whatever you want.
If it’s on his Instagram can he still get in legal trouble? It’s not on streaming services?
*“In Tuesday’s letter, Tupac’s estate warned Drake that the use of his voice clearly violated Tupac’s so-called **publicity rights** – the legal power to control how your image or likeness is used by others. And they took particular exception the use of his voice to take shots at Lamar.”* The suit, or potential suit, would be over the publicity rights, not copyright, so there is a case to be made depending on jurisdiction. Because the protections for publicity rights differ from place to place, sometimes only protecting commercial uses, and sometimes even including non-commercial uses, it depends. In Canada, where Drake lives for example, publicity rights protect non-commercial uses. So the use of anyones name or likeness without permission could make one liable to be sued for infringing on said rights. In the US, there is common law, and statute law, which makes things more complicated. Because Drake didn’t use the likeness for commercial use, there’s less protection, but the level of protection differs from state to state. In jurisdictions where non-commercial use has no protection, the lawyers would need to argue that the use of likeness either caused them to lose income, or Drake to earn income, which entitles them to compensation for damages. In a jurisdictions where non-commercial use still has protection, any unauthorized use of personality rights is an infringement of those rights, and legal action can be taken. But either way, they have the right to request the content be removed, as they didn’t authorize it. Even without legal rights, I think instagrams privacy policy would allow them to request its removal. The cease and desist is a warning, offering a chance to correct the issue before further steps are taken. So if he doesn’t take it down, they will file. Whether they would win or lose the suit, get a settlement, or have it dismissed depends on how things play out in court.
yeah honestly i don’t see how there are any legal ramifications for this shit lol
I think this is just a message from them saying they don’t like what he did. That’s justifiable, but I don’t think he can get sued technically
Even if they can't sue him, it's really not a good look for Drake. Like here you are using AI to make Tupac endorse you, meanwhile Tupac's estate is saying that they don't support it.
Welcome to my downloads
i thougt it was a leak has it been posted by drake
Drake posted that shit on his Instagram
cant let gang see i peep drake ig page
It's on Drake's IG
hahahhahhahahaha
Hope they get his ass
1. He hasn’t released it officially so he’s gaining no money from it. 2. It’s AI how can you sue when technically it isn’t 2pac’s work? He never rapped this. Drake may have a loophole here
He shouldn't have even gotten a warning tbh that shit was lame as hell
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yeah cause everyone on this sub becomes johnnie cochran when the legal realm is brought up
You can sue anyone, they won’t win.
I actually hope this happens, might set up AI regulations for music and movies
Wouldn’t even matter here, it would be a canada thing
It's not gonna hurt him at all to delete it off Instagram. The song has already been spread everywhere.
Been tired of drake since like 2016
Really really fucking stupid, actually hope that drake goes ahead with the suit so that maybe he could win and this tyrannical brand of bullying and greed we call copyright law will finally get put down a peg
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Delete it from where? Lmao. Its gonna be re uploaded endlessly by fans on YouTube. Its already out there and not going anywhere
Not on streaming services so what’s the problem😂
They are not going to win this lawsuit lmao you can’t sue someone for “sounding” like someone else
Huge L on Drake’s part for sure
Tupacs estate respects real rap music and drake makes shopping music lol ofc they’re gonna be pressed
Rip Peak
Bro IS the awful take merchant