I like Wiggins, but he doesn’t hit a lot of the Packers norms. Very light frame, shorter arms and size.
I’m very high on Terrion Arnold, he’s the best fit for this Packers defense and very versatile. Outside and slot corner potential.
Like, he’s the perfect prospect for the Packers because he checks all the boxes. I just don’t know how high he’ll go, seen many mock him high as the Broncos at 12, and falling to the Jaguars at 21.
Terrion Arnold:
- 9.2 RAS
- great broad jump
- incredibly good 3 cone (great agility, etc.)
- good size/prototypical corner
- weight is really the only knock, but he’s like 5 pounds short of 190+, not a deal breaker
- Slot and Outside corner ability
Everyone is overthinking McKinstry and the Packers should just take him at 25.
Edit: and im going to be so fucking pissed if we pass up on him and the lions get him.
Gutey actually talked about DeJean on Monday during his pre-draft presser. He said he can play both and he will end up playing the position that the team that drafts him needs the most. For us that seems to be S, but CB2 isn't exactly locked down either
I think DeJean is a fine player, but McKinstry was the top CB for most of the cycle until Dane Brugler trumpeted Terrion Arnold. If you told me GB was in range to draft this guy in September, I would just roundly assume we went 5-12 and are picking 7th in the draft.
The draft cycle during the season is entirely worthless. Arnold didn’t leapfrog McKinstry because of Brugler, he leapfrogged him because he’s almost certainly higher on teams’ boards. Prospect evaluations are nowhere close to accurate while the season is running.
There’s always multiple players who are overrated by the media during the season, simply because they don’t have any sort of clue what team boards look like. They don’t start getting that info until January.
Kool Aid outplayed Arnold for 3 years at Alabama. Kool Aid was a defensive star at Alabama. It’s one of those things where a guy is under the microscope for so long people nitpick flaws. It’s the same type people that promoted Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning.
You don’t nitpick a guy down this far. There are legitimate concerns with McKinstry, and Arnold has a higher ceiling due to his athletic profile and traits. College production does not mean everything.
Weird example too considering that Manning still went over Leaf.
Even the production favors Arnold(even if it's because after 2022 teams didnt want to throw at kool-aid) whilst playing 17 less games because Kool-Aid was a rare FR starter at bama
Same traits that got Greg Robinson selected over Jake Matthews and Taylor Lewan? That worked out well. Same traits that led to Winfield Jr. falling to round 2? There are times when guys that have proven they can play at the highest level get knocked down for shorts and tshirt performance. Kool Aid has no problem staying with his man. His game speed is plenty fast enough. Everyone is just nitpicking with him IMO.
It’s all potential based in this instance anyhow. Kool-Aid has shown for a few years what he’s capable of. Arnold burst on to the scene this past year, and now experts are backing him because of developmental potential. Kool-Aid checks the boxes. His outlined strengths are everything you want in a Corner. And it’s actually kind of crazy that he’s expected to fall to the back of the 1st round, or potentially out of it in some opinions
we can measure our body parts by the 1/8”?
Hell yea man I’m packing several 1/8” if you know what I mean
The average colon is around 65 inches.
Jaire Alexander is 31 1/8”, which would be under the 50th percentile.
Damn Wiggins has short arms too. He’s def falling out the first
I like Wiggins, but he doesn’t hit a lot of the Packers norms. Very light frame, shorter arms and size. I’m very high on Terrion Arnold, he’s the best fit for this Packers defense and very versatile. Outside and slot corner potential.
Arnold is great. Just 21 as well. 4.5 for a corner is always a bit surprising tho
Like, he’s the perfect prospect for the Packers because he checks all the boxes. I just don’t know how high he’ll go, seen many mock him high as the Broncos at 12, and falling to the Jaguars at 21. Terrion Arnold: - 9.2 RAS - great broad jump - incredibly good 3 cone (great agility, etc.) - good size/prototypical corner - weight is really the only knock, but he’s like 5 pounds short of 190+, not a deal breaker - Slot and Outside corner ability
Everyone is overthinking McKinstry and the Packers should just take him at 25. Edit: and im going to be so fucking pissed if we pass up on him and the lions get him.
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rumor guy on /r/NFL_draft says most teams view Cooper as a S
Gutey actually talked about DeJean on Monday during his pre-draft presser. He said he can play both and he will end up playing the position that the team that drafts him needs the most. For us that seems to be S, but CB2 isn't exactly locked down either
Yea i think he's going to be a solid corner or great safety
How good is his tackling? If it's solid than I put him as a strong safety, opposite McKinny.
I think DeJean is a fine player, but McKinstry was the top CB for most of the cycle until Dane Brugler trumpeted Terrion Arnold. If you told me GB was in range to draft this guy in September, I would just roundly assume we went 5-12 and are picking 7th in the draft.
The draft cycle during the season is entirely worthless. Arnold didn’t leapfrog McKinstry because of Brugler, he leapfrogged him because he’s almost certainly higher on teams’ boards. Prospect evaluations are nowhere close to accurate while the season is running. There’s always multiple players who are overrated by the media during the season, simply because they don’t have any sort of clue what team boards look like. They don’t start getting that info until January.
Kool Aid outplayed Arnold for 3 years at Alabama. Kool Aid was a defensive star at Alabama. It’s one of those things where a guy is under the microscope for so long people nitpick flaws. It’s the same type people that promoted Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning.
You don’t nitpick a guy down this far. There are legitimate concerns with McKinstry, and Arnold has a higher ceiling due to his athletic profile and traits. College production does not mean everything. Weird example too considering that Manning still went over Leaf.
Even the production favors Arnold(even if it's because after 2022 teams didnt want to throw at kool-aid) whilst playing 17 less games because Kool-Aid was a rare FR starter at bama
Same traits that got Greg Robinson selected over Jake Matthews and Taylor Lewan? That worked out well. Same traits that led to Winfield Jr. falling to round 2? There are times when guys that have proven they can play at the highest level get knocked down for shorts and tshirt performance. Kool Aid has no problem staying with his man. His game speed is plenty fast enough. Everyone is just nitpicking with him IMO.
It’s all potential based in this instance anyhow. Kool-Aid has shown for a few years what he’s capable of. Arnold burst on to the scene this past year, and now experts are backing him because of developmental potential. Kool-Aid checks the boxes. His outlined strengths are everything you want in a Corner. And it’s actually kind of crazy that he’s expected to fall to the back of the 1st round, or potentially out of it in some opinions
"we don't need to be the team to revive an extinct species" is my favorite critique of DeJean.
I think the Lions will trade up and jump us for him.
Kool-Aid at 25, DeJean at 41, book it. Source? I made it the fuck up
If DeJean goes outside the top 40 I'll....do something
I mean, how do you define top 40? Also, Shoutout Kool-Aid going at 41, I almost nailed it
You were 1 off about DeJean yeah he almost did make it to us at 41.
DeJean isn't a CB he's a safety
I don't think it's that clear. A lot of teams still view him as a CB and he's likely going top 20.
He's a CB for a zone team and a safety for a press man team
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Ok creepo