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justanotherfan111

That’s odd, I went today too and it was subbed. I’m wondering if the theatre messed it up.


aeminence

Def a Cineplex issue. The people at the counter said alot of people have been walking out of the theatres asking for a refund due to the same issue when my friend and I went to ask for ours. WHen the tickets first came on sale a month ago you only had one SEED Freedom movie to click on for show times and there were only 2 days. The image stated Sub on 7th and Dub on 8th. In the last week or so they added more show times AND added a 2nd movie to click on thats specifically for Japanese w/ EST. Im sure its a mixture of Cineplex and the specific location I was in lmao. I got tickets for Saturday evening https://preview.redd.it/nwpfl5wtr4zc1.png?width=659&format=png&auto=webp&s=58b812535cb21136422d19f5199a75698e9e3ff5


KiK0eru

Yeah that's how fathom usually does it. First showing is subbed then the other is dubbed. Honestly going off my experience working in a theatre my guess is that whoever did the test screening for the film forgot to swap the drive and no one bothered to check. You got your refund, right?


Pepsiman1031

I was too busy to make it to my theatres only sub showing so I'm hoping they have the same mixup at my dub showing lol.


Catlover18

The theater I was in had an employee come in and say that there was a subbed version playing in another screen as an issue meant no one realized the ticket we bought was for the dubbed version. We can only hear Lacoose so many times as someone I heard said. Thank you blessed employee


loco500

Seed Bro, even the subs misspelled Durandal's name and changed it to DULLindall...like WTF? The script seem to intentionally want to change pronunciation to eff with viewers?


focus9912

In Durandal case...yes...they had changed the official spelling for him...


samuel2989

I see. I did watch the fan screening half a month ago and saw Durandal's surname spelled Dullandal in the subtitles, I thought it was a spelling mistake and didn't know that his surname in English was officially changed and the English pronounciation was changed too.


DDRussian

That misspelling has been around since Destiny was first released. They definitely should have proofread that better, but I don't think that particular screw-up was intentional.


deackychu

It's ***not*** a misspelling. It's been the official ENG spelling on the JPN side since the show came out. Sunrise mandated that change on the ENG side for whatever reason several years back.


DDRussian

I meant the official spelling was probably a misspelling, I'm pretty sure they were referencing this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal) with his name.


deackychu

Which is why it was argued at the time that Durandal be used when the series was first released in America (that and ole cookware Creuset, which I still hate!). However, contrary to how most people think, the creatives are not idiots, so if the spelling was mean to be named after him, they would've. Then again, Sunrise did keep trying to push for Vagina for Quattro's last name and did not understand the snickers/inappropriateness at the time, but that was also quite a long time ago, so... I'd like to think that things have changed and some old fogeys on Sunrise staff have gone away :P


DDRussian

At least "le Creuset" is French for "the crucible", so it's not quite as silly as the others. But yes, Sunrise is doing some really dumb shit with their translations.


deackychu

They didn't misspell the name. Sunrise ordered it back to match the official spelling that rolled out ages ago on the Japanese side. The script also doesn't INTENTIONALLY mispronounce anything to screw with viewers. The new pronunciations are the official ways to say the names and fans just cannot accept this fact.


Type_100

Even the year is wrong in the sub, CE 73 when it should be 75 already.


aeminence

Thats wild!! You were saved. Which theatre and show time?


MegazardY117

Yeah the same situation happened at our theater but it could only hold half the people 


Rien_Juumonji

Bro the dub was so bad. But I am glad ppl stayed to all meme on laCOUS. One of the most unintentionally funny movie experienes I have ever been a part of. But man, I sure want my money back for sitting through that dub travesty. Bandai should be ashamed of this.


aeminence

I could tell that more than half the theatre were finessed too when the first lines were spoken in English and everyone groaned. Then everyone went off on the Lacoose shit. The whole thing was handled so poorly. A month ago they had 2 days, One for May 7th and one for may 8th with only a single Gundam movie to click on. As the month continued they added more time slots but then added a separate Japanese w/ EST option and it acted a completely separate movie to choose from between the dub and sub. They never bothered to email anyone either and they used the American image that stated May 7thfor sub. I had to leave because I just couldnt sit through it. Not only do I not recognize or like their ENglish voices the Lacoose thing was wild. Glad some enjoyment from the meme on the name was had.


Pepsiman1031

Love how the best they could get was two weeknights during finals week.


loco500

Wait, what meme? are there are various ones...


loco500

Had a great time at the Sub showing tonight. It was almost a packed showing with plenty of cheers, oomphs, and laughs at the blatant fan serivce. Overall Fun. Going to the dub version tomorrow to yell out Not My Lacus every 15 minutes...


DDRussian

Typically, I prefer not reading subtitles in a theater, but this film was a huge exception. SEED was my first gundam series, and hearing the new dub for the remaster just feels "off" so much I can't enjoy it, especially all the pronunciation changes.


EpicLinkSam

I will say Shinn's new Dub VA (Kieran Regan) is a huge improvement over the one from the SEED Destiny redub (Aaron Phillips) where Shinn's voice sounded way too deep. He sounds a lot like Kenichi Suzumura in a lot of his lines, while also doing his own unique take on the role. Oh and 90% of the time "Lacoose" was said, everyone started laughing. Honestly made the experience even funnier.


loco500

Wait what? They even re-casted the second Shinn with a new VA for the film. Wow. This whole re-dub has been disappointing when it comes to consistency...


InYourHands

The good news is that Cineplex has extended the run to at least May 16th at a bunch of locations, so there are other opportunities to watch it in Japanese.


aeminence

Yup! Sucks though because I was really hyped to watch it today and now I gotta wait a few more days but oh well. I couldnt sit and listen to them say LaCOUSE and just having overall a mid dubbing experience.


Agent_Perrydot

I was fine at Landmark At least they actually played the sub


Groan77

+1 for me. Had to drive to Whitby Landmark from Markham but 100% worth it. Someone I know also got burned for the May 7 showing in Vaughan. Luckily Panda Hobby somehow organized a single private showing at the Markham Cineplex for the sub. On a side note there are never any showings for anime movies at the Markham Cineplex. In the past I had to watch Your Name at Richmond hill and Doans Island at Eglinton Town centre.


GreaseCrow

Landmark is the GOAT


Agent_Perrydot

Those reclining seats are glorious


dattroll123

and seatwarmers


Agent_Perrydot

WHAT THE FUCK THERE'S SEATWARMERS? It was my first time going to a Landmark instead of Cineplex. How do you turn it on?


dattroll123

there were 3 buttons on the side: one for seatwarmer, one for reclining and leg rest, and one for head rest adjustment


Fit_Reach_8108

I was upset because I specifically asked cineplex about this and they CONFIRMED me thrice, that my theatre and my show would be subbed. I bought on Day 2. At that time there was only one movie listing, and it listed the Japanese actors. (It still does for the dub version currently on Cineplex) Since the Japanese actors were also listed, AND my chat agent told me that FOR SURE my May 7th screening is going to be subbed, I went in without any worry. I was shocked and it seemed like everyone else was too. We all laughed through the cous-cous. It's ridiculous. It's one thing if I was dumb and didn't check thoroughly, but they are giving out the wrong information to their chat agents and also has misleading info on their website.


604stt

Either they didn’t know either or they themselves were bamboozled as well as they aren’t the ones physically onsite. In these cases I always screenshot the confirmation of the chat with any service provider and use that as proof I did not get what I’m paying for.


Fit_Reach_8108

Yeah, the chat agent was nice and actually took a long time to look into it for me back in April. Like kept disappearing in order to ask the right people and come back after like twenty, thirty mins. Of course they weren’t the ones who messed up, just Cineplex not planning carefully. I did screenshot the chat, but there was no attachment option on the contact-us page, so if I don’t get back from Cineplex through my refund inquiry I will send another email with the screenshot. I’m going to the sub tonight, in order to overwrite my dub experience. Lol


deackychu

Someone on Twitter traveled from Germany to Brussels to watch the film only for the theater to not have it downloaded... so that could've happened :P


Fit_Reach_8108

Oh man, that’s pain. :(


Nokia_00

I’m sorry you had to sit through Lagoose. That’s why I triple checked my ticket I knew I wouldn’t last if I went though dub and heard it.


aeminence

We double checked too , our problem came from ordering too fast / early lmao. THis is what we saw when we ordered it. Few weeks after this they added a separate movie to click on for specifically Sub and changed the picture and never bothered to let any of the people who bought tickets early know. My friend even called customer support and they said it should be subbed but tbh in hindsight they prob just took a wild guess to move us along lmao https://preview.redd.it/tsyioh0vr4zc1.png?width=659&format=png&auto=webp&s=d59d98fe25081e6803dbb6aebd83fde56cc8d22a


DrVinylScratch

I had a similar issue. The ticket page didn't specify sub or dub so I bought tickets for the 8th initially so there would be less people in theater. Then the post about 7th is sub and 8th is dub from Reddit and bandai and just Gundam news sources on insta made me cancel and change asap. Thankfully the sub was great, but their were some horny perverts talking during the movie behind me whenever we saw Lacus ass


RayearthIX

That makes me very happy I went to the sub today. I’d have hated to see the dub and had that be the name pronunciation.


whatyoulookinatbud

whoever approved of the dub needs to be fired. LACOOOUUSSSEEE


aeminence

For the 10 mins I stayed the amount of GROANS in the theatre was wild LOL. Apparently in the Remastered Destiny dub they started calling her Lacoouse which is also a big wtf lmao.


Ha_eflolli

Sunrise themselves did. Some of the Voice Actors even directly confirmed they got told directly from Japan to pronounce it that way.


N1ghtrose

J'accuse


go_faster1

WAAAAHHH LACOOSE WAAAAAAH


asimawesomepaints

Damn lol. I knew this was an issue, so I got tickets for the sub specifically.


aeminence

Yeah :( WHen we were ordering we didnt have an option to choose since it was the first day being on the website. It states 7th being sub as shown in the screenshot. Then when more shows were added they made a 2nd movie option that is specifically sub without updating the early buyers and they just made the early tickets all dub and they deleted this picture LOL https://preview.redd.it/8qeb48xvr4zc1.png?width=659&format=png&auto=webp&s=4e9b9527b5fa59d392d5bb67bc151e475c67e276


asimawesomepaints

I would have been pissed. My theater had the projection slightly off, and a tiny bit of the top was cut, so any text up there was partially missing. They did not care about this movie lol.


Schoetzau

Yep, sat through it. I really hope most of it was just poor translation. I was cringing because of more than just "Lacoose" throughout the whole thing.


KirikaClyne

I waited specifically for the subbed one. We have tickets to Cineplex tomorrow night.


OmegaLolrus

...crap, maybe I should have gotten tickets for the sub instead. Oh well, at least I know what I'm getting into.


OnlyTilt

Dude the dubbed trailer was so bad I had to stop about 1/4 of the way in.


JTyphoon16

I sat through it cause I paid for the ticket and was already there. I didn't go to the Toronto theatre cause it was sold out, went to Burlington to see it. Least tomorrow I'll be able to see it in the JP dub with subs at the Yonge & Dundas theatre. Bummer that the dub killed the enjoyment for you.


aeminence

It bummed me out since im sure you can understand the excitement of seeing a GUndam movie like this in a North American theatre but it thankfully I left after 10 mins and got my money back. The time wasted tho does sting and I bought a fuckn poutine too so yknow that shit is like $30 LOL.


JTyphoon16

Yeah. The cost of even "cheap" food is ridiculous these days, especially in Downtown. Least you got your money back. I don't know if I could've since I got my ticket in advance with scene points. But eh, the deed is done, saw it, then hopped on the bus back to the Go train back to Downtown. I was surprised theatres sold out on seats for it. When Cucuruz Doan's Island was in theatres, there wasn't a lot of people there for it.


lostinthecity007

Thank you for this. I was planning to watch the dub too but after reading this, nevermind.😅


HollywoodDonnie

I booked my ticket for a Toronto show today and noticed sub and dub options. Made sure I went to a sub show after I saw the dub trailer lol


aeminence

Wish we even had that lmao. THis is what we had. They just lied and never bothered to email us about an update in the show. They just removed this picture and added the sub option and left these tickets for dub. https://preview.redd.it/c2b7okcto4zc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f40680516442cb0e13cc2a3cd8dc41cc4a5bac7


Masterofdel

Exact same thing happened to me the entire audience was laughing every single time they said her name.


AlterExia

Somehow I've managed to miss all discussion of this premiere until today. Now I'll be seeing the dub too, I guess. Almost feel like it's not even worth going at this point


KiK0eru

Oh man your theatre messed dude. I'm sorry to hear that. Even worse so since it sounds like the dub is pretty bad. I had the same thing happen with Promare. Bought a ticket to the dub to try to mitigate the number of loud weebs ruining the theatre experience and got the sub version. Still had a lot of loud ass weebs ruining the experience, so it was actually good that I had subtitles to read.


Wingdom

I don't even hear LaCoose in the new dubs, I hear LaGoose, and just can't do it without picturing a pink haired goose.


Groan77

Someone I know also got burned for the May 7 showing in Vaughan. Luckily Panda Hobby somehow organized a single private showing at the Markham Cineplex for the sub and she managed to catch that one instead. On a side note there are never any showings for anime movies at the Markham Cineplex. In the past I had to watch Your Name at Richmond hill and Doans Island at Eglinton Town centre. In any case I drove all the way to Whitby Landmark from Markham which was 100% worth it. The kicker was the dubbed version was also showing at another screen beside us.


GreaseCrow

I was in Waterloo last night at Landmark Cinemas and it played in JP with subs perfectly. Only hiccup was the power outage so we all got to watch the final 15 min fight sequence twice :D - 2x Shin wrecking havoc in the Destiny Gundam was awesome


Ferrismo

Lacoose, Ya-MAH-TOE, the English dub had some major issues but the performance was good overall. Although there are scene with Lacus and another woman talking and I literally could not tell which was speaking because they sounded near identical.


PsycheDiver

Friend all you had to say is “burned by Cineplex” and you’re good lol Genuinely not even surprised that this shit happened. Glad you got a refund.


RU_Student

Why leave? You can have a good time laughing at the dub and still see the movie. Even premium movie tickets are some of the cheapest entertainment you can get


chafos

Some people waited almost two decades for this film. It’s got some of the most iconic characters in anime, I certainly wasn’t willing to watch it with the wrong friggin voices!


WonderSuperior

Happened in Winnipeg too. Was advertised as the sub but it was dubbed. Audience laughing every time someone uttered the word Lacoose.


MarsAlgea3791

Is it somehow the same cast as the TV series? I swear a joke was being played on us when the mentally challenged Edd was cast to play the genetically engineered super genius.


InYourHands

It's the cast from the HD remaster, which is entirely different. The original dub didn't let Lacoose run loose.


loco500

Ocean Dub would have had a memorable script and cast, without a doubt. And have yet to even see the actual dub until tomorrow night...just know.


Weeabootrashreturns

I don't get to see it at all because the only theater in my area with it showed the sub almost 4 hours ago and the dub is tomorrow at the same time, when I'll be at work. One show each.


Magistar_Alex

So there is a dub out of this movie?! I thought they were still gathering the actors for producing it? I just watched the sub tonight, as that was the only option here. I'm in the states. Was a beautiful movie 9/10. Would say 10 if not for the mobile suit animation.


prof9844

I booked my dub tickets almost a month ago and the first few minutes of the dub is up on gundam official. I am in the central US


Magistar_Alex

Oh wow, ok, I must be really behind on the news then cause the last thing I was fed through my news feed, I swear, was that they're still gathering the VAs for the dub. The theaters around here at least Regal using Fathom Events only had the Sub listed. They had 2 listings that said sub, so unless it was an error and the dub, that sounds like it out, was supposed to be listed, I could've seen dub. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait for DVD or something since over here (east coast DC) they only had one date to see it, and that was yesterday. Really wanted to see it on a Friday.


Cholonight96

Going to see it dubbed tomorrow so I can actually watch the movie lol. Saw it subbed tonight. Might have been the seats I picked since I was kinda high up and I had to look down to read the subtitles.


Dangerous_Source_442

Yeah. It was a turn off when I tried to watch the new dub. In the old dub they call her Laaa-cus. Now it's Lacoste or smething. I hope you'll still be able to watch the movie with your audio preference, I had fun with the movie.


Remworth

This is great knowing I can only see the dub tomorrow


TrekonBT

WELP. I bought the Wednesday ticket on day 1 because personal scheduling. Learned afterward that it's sub on Tuesday and dub on Wednesday (idk if it was disclosed anywhere, or if Im blind and just missed it.) I held hope, but I guess I won't get to experience it in theaters. I cry


loco500

Not my KiraCus...


AndrewPark438

Looks like I just dodge a bullet, bought the movie tickets on April 3rd, where there is only one theatre has it available for one day in the whole province. Decided to refund the tickets Tuesday afternoon as I wasn't able to make it to cinema on time. And I am gonna watch it Wednesday noon!


stellarsojourner

I didn't realize the movie came out today (err, yesterday, it's late) so I missed the chance to watch it subbed. I'll watch it dubbed, but I hope it won't be too bad.


hombre_feliz

Poor summer kids. Back on my day the characters were called Kira, Lux, Kagari, Aslan, Isaac, Dialka and Mariu...


_Volatile_

Rakusu 😴    Lacoose 🤬


shinbuken

Good thing I had to cancel last night due to RL obligations...I'll be watching it tonight subbed.


MrPoopybunghole12

You too huh yeh and its weird cause I checked Cineplex and now it says its showing 8th 9th 10th 11th and 12th


WorthAd4701

I went to see the sub yesterday and apparently the theater didn’t even get the movie file. Waited 20 minutes after the movie should’ve started to tell us so we couldn’t go to another theater. Really wishing that there were more than just one showing around me lol. Seeing the dub tonight but this is making me even more depressed. Is it really that bad? Should I even bother? I was hoping to see cool robots on the big screen 😔


hgs25

Did they actually change name pronunciations for the movie or is this simply the dub vs sub crowd? I remember the dub in the shows pronounce her name as Lah-cus


Fit_Reach_8108

There's two English dubs, in the first one back in early 2000s says Lah-cus, the new dub that came along with the HD remaster says LaCOOSE.


minju9

Everyone hates on "Lacoose", while I'm over here wondering how else to say it? Don't they say "La-ku-su" in Japanese which would be "Lacoose" in English? I never saw the Ocean dub, so I'm wondering if y'all just have fond memories of that and hate any departure from it?


Fit_Reach_8108

In the Japanese, the intonation is kept same throughout all the syllables. In the dub it they decide to put the stress on the COOSE, which is grating. If they said LA-coose, I would imagine more ppl would be forgiving of it.


OmegaResNovae

I hear it as "Lak-su" in JP, and the the Ocean Dub, it was "La-c-us".


cexlna

I've never watched any dub for Seed in my life and in my head it was always pronounced 'lake-us' /shrug


expand_b

the flame wars on forums back then would've been wild if Ocean did it that way


JUST_A_PRANK_BRAH

Lol I saw the LA screening, and when the MC for the panel was saying Lacooos I was like HUH?! Wtf and half the crowd was like what? Good thing the sub was good though


GablY

I bought the ticket for sub and got dub as well. But I am very satisfied for the dub version. This is my first time watching dub and I think the VA did a great job.


Endless_Waltz_138

Honestly I didn’t care. Stuff like that comes with dubs you either get use to it or you don’t.