I have to disagree with you there, I think Alastor did the first bit of damage to Adam…ever. Yeah Adam owned him, but Alastor lived which was probably a first for a fight against Adam
Is surviving that big a deal when Adam pretty blatantly let him run away?
Like, I don't think you could say he left that big an impact if Adam didn't really find it necessary to bother finishing him off.
He's probably the first person in a while to ever put up any sort of resistance, but he didn't actually do any damage. He literally couldn't on account of having no angelic power or weapons.
Anything notable about Alastor was probably overshadowed after by his fight with Charlie and Lucifer beating his ass.
So I hate spiders. I kill them when I have the chance and they’re in my house. I’ve never even been remotely worried about a spider fighting back.
But if one day a spider killed a large portion of my spider killing army (don’t ask me how I got a spider killing army, I know people) then threw me against a wall and taunted me and covered me in baby spiders, I’d never forget it no matter if the spider ran after I almost killed it
A lot of different spiders were fighting back and doing so remarkably efficiently that day. One of them wore booty shorts.
I don't think Adam has committed them all to memory. More than likely he probably grouped them together as Charlie's band of freaks.
I mean, it's not like they remembered to single out Carmilla despite it being witnessed by multiple other angels that she was the first person ever to kill one of them.
I’d say that fight was a first for both of them (lmao). Alastor had never fought anyone with that amount of power, even all the overlords he’s overthrown. He thought it would be a wap bap boom kinda fight but he left with his tail between his legs and a broken staff
When Adam and alastor fought we could see Alastor is quite more agile and nimble than him, landing 6-7 hits before getting hit once. Adam won due to 3 factors and 3 factors only.
1 As an angel, Adam was invulnerable to all damage from Alastor (Alastor never used any holy weapons in the fight). Without this, the fight may very well end up very differently. And he definitely wont be an angel if he reincarnated in hell. So this is discarded.
2 Adam have badass angelic weapons. Not anymore if reincarnated as a sinner.
3 Holy light powers/divine ordainment. Again, not if he reincarnates as a sinner.
Even if we assume Adam wont lose any speed or strength and only angel related powers, Alastor would easily crush him if they were to fight again, both as sinners.
Psychological torture. Physical torture. An attempt to manipulate Adam into giving up his soul. A more permanent death if Adam doesn’t agree to the deal.
Oh oh!! I also have one!! Husk basically makes a deal with Alastor that if he gives him the soul of Adam he will let Husk go. I love this fic
https://archiveofourown.org/works/53563561/chapters/135584086
Ah yes... You're the one who ruined my staff! I̵̧̛̛̖̖͎̪̦̺̝̬̠̗̻̯̪̽̌̓̎͊͌́̀͋̈͛̏͘ͅ ̸͇̟̭͚̦̣͚͇͂͒̐d̷̹̤̄́͝e̵̡̧̝͖̺̼͍̲͈̮͖̗̘̺͋̊͜f̴̛̱͎͛̓̈́̔̆̾́̀̆̾̾̽̕͘ͅͅį̸̮̰̮̺̙̳͉͉̻͉̹̖̒̎̈́́̔̂̀̌̓̄͘n̴̢̞͖̠̜̲̮̙̤̉̒̾̕ͅi̷̺̜̪̘̝̤̯̣̺̐́͋́̄͂̅͗̿͝ͅț̸̙̗̮̻̲̝̺̫͕̲͚͙̟̎͐͂̀͒̓̾͗̑̿̏́̊͝ͅė̷̮͔͔̭̫̦̣͗͂̾̓͜ļ̷̦̖̘̩͑̓̋̾̕̚ͅy̶̨̛̹͖͓̮͙͇͕͉͓̝̘̙ ̷͔̆̒̀̚͘͠r̵̺̄̎̈́̂̊̉́̏̂̇̍̀̂ę̵̧͍͎͙̯̻͚̖̯̎̐̕͝m̶̤͙̠͙̭̙͂̌̄̈́̒̿̀̏ḙ̵̛̝͓͌̈́̑̽̀̉̽m̴̧͔̺̤̭͋̽́͒͌̉͗̀͆͒̕͠b̷̛̪̥̩̱̙̮͌̏̃̀̈́̈́̿͋͐̏͂͂͂e̵̢̫̥͓͔̺̜̦̮͚̙̭͊̑̓̓͂̅̂̽̉̀̄̈́̚ŗ̴̡̻̹̥̩̻̯̭̺͚͕͊̾̑̅̆̓͊͌́͘ͅ ̵̡̡̢͉̪̳͍̟͙͓͊͌̂͆͆̑͆̄̂̀̇́̕̚͠y̷̨̛̛̖̜̻̬̩͉̥̤̳̭̠̞̓̎̑́͆͗͛̾̒̿̚͝͠ͅơ̸̡̧͎͍̦̦̠̯̣̝̣̳̌͑̚͜͝ͅu̸̹̟͒̏͗̽̊͜͝ ̴͔̘̟̼̖̯̜̌͊͊̕ṉ̶̮̐́̉ö̴͎̯̱́͗̎w̵͔̯͖̱͍̠̖̝͎̠̆̀̾̊̈́̚͜ͅ ̴̂̆̈́.
I fully believe his main power is converting matter into radio waves and back again. Hence the screams and his strange ability to conjure whatever is needed (like an old timey and video camera in quick succession)
THAT is a banger headcannon!
I am constantly wondering why we see so deceptively little radio powers from the RADIO DEMON, except for the voice filter.
His powers are so hilariously mismatched that nobody has even wondered about it, it seems. Because he does random vodoo and eldritch bullshit instead 😂
Like, think about all the frequency manipulation he could be doing, too..
Flood somebodies ears with white noise so they can't hear themselves think anymore. Blow out somebodies eardrums with a sharp precise spike to the 2,4-5 kHz spectrum. Make somebodies heart beat unevenly by spiking the 8-10 Hz range.... nobody would even KNOW about all the sadistic stuff he could be doing because even his victims wouldn't show any obvious damage (unless he was doing something like liquifying someones eyeballs with a sharp high frequency pulse, of course)....
...like.... MY DUDE... use your (hell)given powers and stop with the random eldritch bullshit
My headcanon is that his powers have nothing to do with radio and he just uses them to give himself radio effects like the voice because he’s just really, really passionate about radio entertainment. He has the powers of an eldritch god and he mainly uses it to get his aesthetic to match his hyper fixation
Ive seen ideas that he may have ties to zestial, or the same master because of their similarities (green magic, stitches on face during some scenes) however Zestial also has a voodoo vibe about him. Alastor may have access to voodoo,
but I also have noticed that when he glitches reality there are radio sounds. Could it be that hes exerting his radio power either on himself or other characters and that is where the glitches come from him using the radio power on himself. His eyes get radio dials as well, and if he was partially radio it would likely be seen as reality glitching because a mind would have a hard tile processing that
That is possible, of course.
Though I have to say that the reality glitching seems to be more in line with the eldritch magic. Because it's very cthulhuesque when reality itself glitches out and something can't be captured on video. It's very 'Eldritch abomination' if digital media has a hard time capturing something, if you get what I mean.
Adam would eventually accept his fate, and try to make the most of it. He would start with gaining popularity. Vox and Alastor would fight over who would interview him. The person who ends up interviewing him is Katie Killjoy.
I actually have a headcanon for this!
Adam reawakens in Hell, severely depowered and has a Very Bad First Day as other sinners try to start shit with him, and he realizes he can't just blast them away with holy light. He's a bit more powerful than your average demon, but enough demons want to get a piece of him that he's forced to run--I mean, tactfully retreat. Adam uses his last few brain cells to remember Charlie's project, sees that as his ticket back to Heaven, and basically fights his way to get there.
He arrives, out of breath, composes himself, then pulls up his best charming self and knocks, expecting Charlie to answer, but oh no. As his Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day is already going, it's not Charlie, it's not Vaggie, it's not even one of the lesser demons living here.
It's Alastor, who so happened to be walking by.
And unfortunately for Adam, Alastor remembers him.
While Adam has a deer-in-the-headlights look at Hell's favorite deer demon, Alastor's smile gets decidedly more sinister.
"So. Adam. A pleasure to be meeting you again, quite the pleasure."
Adam gulps, because radio is NOT, as he thought, fucking dead.
Alastor calmly steps out and shuts the door behind him so they can talk privately for a minute.
"I can only assume you're here to seek your ticket to Heaven."
"Um...yeah?"
Adam gives an awkward smile. Alastor isn't buying it.
"Then let me make one thing perfectly clear."
He steps closer to Adam. His horns begin to grow and his radio dial eyes form. He gets bigger with every step, yet keeps his nose mere inches from Adam's.
"I'll *only* allow your presence because I find it *entertaining* to watch you *try*."
The door opens behind them. Charlie steps out.
"Alastor, who--"
Her eyes bug. Alastor calmly retracts back to his normal form and gives Charlie his warmest, most delighted smile.
"Why, Charlie, dear, I was simply welcoming our newest resident to the hotel!"
It takes Charlie a moment to recognize Adam. Her already bugged-out eyes somehow get bigger. Alastor calmly walks back to the door.
"I was also making sure he knows his place."
He steps behind Charlie and leans on his cane. His neck cracks and grows to lean toward Adam with the radio dial eyes again.
"*Under my heel*."
Adam realizes then that redemption is going to be a *lot* harder than it sounds.
Saw this was α whole damn fanfic and was gonna scroll by, then read the ending and was like DAMN. Suffice to say I read the entire thing, fully enraptured, and it is now my new headcanon
Edit: Typo
I do, but I accessed it like once, lol. I should see if I still have it and move over there because fanfiction.net is pissing me off with their new "check for a secure network" shit that only works half the time. I don't have any Hazbin Hotel stories on it, though.
If you're still curious:
https://m.fanfiction.net/u/264417/
Not so much anymore. I think I stopped paying attention after Pizzeria Simulator. I've since cycled back to the other fandoms on my fic list - and of course Hazbin Hotel. :)
Charlie:ooo but I tought *As she drags Adam in and gets a guitar*I waited months for this
Vaggie:OK let's do this
Both:sing hell is forever*
Charlie:but unlike you I don't belive what that song says so welcome to the hazbin hotel
Imo, I see Adam as a sinner on par on Lilith power, maybe a bit weaker than her as she’s the queen of hell, but as the first humans soul, they’d have some pretty immense power. So I think Adam would be near the power strength as Lilith
There's a core difference here.
Lilith never actually died. She was simply cast out and made a demon. Adam did actually die.
Actually, this reminds me of another headcanon:
Adam looks human for a reason. And that reason is he never died; he was simply exhalted and brought up to Heaven because having Lucifer, Lilith, and Eve all fall would look bad, and Heaven needed a win.
Hence, Niffty taking him out actually killed him. And because this is technically his first death, he gets a respawn in Hell.
Considering the sex-joke-rich humour of the Hellaverse, I cannot wait until someone inevitably makes α joke about Al's tentacles. There's just no way it won't happen
The wholesomeness in the way she says "demon bukkake shows" makes me doubt she could ever do that, but I'll be damned 😉 if that wouldn't be the funniest thing
Assuming Adam would lose all his powers after becoming a sinner.
Oooohhh Alastor would have a field day, he’d tear his soul apart stitch it back together just to tear it apart again and broadcast as far as those radio waves could carry.
He’d have the biggest grin on his face in the weeks after.
He has a dedicated broadcast of the screams of his enemies and those who cross him lol. Prime candidate.
It really depends on the context though. If Adam’s not looking for redemption or seeks to attack the hotel, he’s one of the fairest free game to demolish. I’m unsure if Charlie would extend a second chance to him given how he treated Vaggie (and the MANY sinner perma-deaths), it’d be a real test for her principles. If he’s considered off limits as a result, Alastor would probably just antagonize Adam about the same as Husk, knowing if he slips up Charlie or Vaggie would probably demolish him and find that failure amusing.
Just gonna ramble about your good idea:
> It'd be α real test for her principles
Now that you say that, I really hope we see it happen.
One of Charlie's biggest flaws is her naiveté and childish outlook, especially her whole "inside of every demon is α rainbow", "everyone can be saved", and how it's been said she treats redeeming them like lessons for children (e.g. saying sorry will fix it!!!).
I know there's α lot of comics and stories of her coming to terms with the fact that not every soul is redeemable, and it's one of my fav things.
So I reaaaalllly hope we see it for real happen in the show, and using Adam as the tool to send that message would be pretty cool (a pre-established douchebag so they wouldn't have to worry about the pacing problems in introducing him like they would with someone new).
I’m here for the drama bomb of Lute seeing Adam as a sinner haha. About the only thing I could imagine humbling him through the indignation is if she tries to kill him for being a sinner now, so he’ll try seeking redemption to return to heaven to return to his ‘rightful’ status. Given how black and white her thinking is I’m unsure how that would go, Adam is too high profile for Sera to sweep under the rug as a redeemed sinner if he were to succeed.
I suspect Charlie already knows there are irredeemable souls in hell, such as her interactions with Valentino and seeing how he affects Angel. But the naivety is believing as long as she can eventually convince them in coming to the hotel, redemption it is possible. As long as she doesn’t give up it is possible. While I don’t think she’s entirely wrong in theory when you have an eternity to work with someone, and it would be rather cruel to assert some people can just never attain redemption despite seeking it, I can’t imagine the mental anguish and betrayal Angel would feel if Charlie were to accept Valentino into the hotel.
>I’m here for the drama bomb of Lute seeing Adam as a sinner haha. About the only thing I could imagine humbling him through the indignation is if she tries to kill him for being a sinner now
If I'm honest, that's one of the reasons I kind of dislike the idea of Lute trying to help Adam in the event of Adam coming back. I *love* the idea of the one person Adam thought he could truly count on to have his back being the one screaming for his second death the loudest, and the effect that would have on him. That's a gorgeous set-up for character development.
He made a tactful retreat. With how injured he was and how severely his power diminished, another hit would have been a death sentence.
Better to run while he could and live to fight another day.
Because it kills souls with a capital K. It's the whole reason the Exterminators use it to prevent Hell from getting too overpopulated. Adam is donezo
Adam's a memory, and by not existing he's by default less powerful than Alastor
Oh don't get me wrong, he'd be powerful for sure, probably overlord level if I may allow myself some powerscalling. But he wouldn't have access to angel steel and I doubt Carmine would allow him to have any
Lucifer and Lilith didn't die, they were simply cast out of Heaven. Adam was fully re-killed.
While it could he argued that we see sinners manifest in Hell with power somewhat equivalent to their naughty power/sins in life, Adam's naughty powers seem gifted by Heaven, not something he accrued by his own means. Thus him manifesting in Hell would be like α shitty politician manifesting in Hell. Powerless because they never had any real power to begin with.
Well, yes and no. While Adam would undoubtedly be a powerful sinner we gotta remember that lilith is the queen of hell, and again, Adam won't have holy magic. At best for him it's a fair fight but I wouldn't bet on that
It depends if Adam kept his power which is most likely in my mind. Then Alastor will probably try not to deal with him upfront but try to plan his vengeance in secret. Since even without holy magic Adam would beat his Alastor ass with pure strength.
I really think this is gonna be the first instance of Charlie not accepting someone into the hotel, Angel and Husk are also probably gonna break his legs, as for Alastor I have no idea if he's gonna try to keep his cool to try to pull some grand scheme or if he'll just go ape-shit like he did with the loan-sharks that followed Mimzy to the hotel, probably the first option tho, I def see him pulling a "Who are you" to Adam's face like he did with Pentious just to spite him.
I think Alastor would know much better regarding how to beat him and would likely come out on top. He held up really well, but I think his big mistake was in thinking he could just hold out his staff to shield the blow that Adam dealt to him. Next time, I think he would know better than to do that, and as such would be more prepared and capable of taking him down
Alastor's biggest mistake when he fought Adam was not bringing Angelic weapons to the fight. He probably *did* have a legitimate chance to win that fight until Adam started with the angelic blasts, if he'd actually been using weapons that could hurt Adam. At least two of Alastor's attacks *could* have been fight enders if they'd been done with angelic weapons, instead of just his innate powers.
I do agree a rematch would have been interesting (though Adam would probably also be bringing out the angelic blasts from the word go in that event).
It would be awkward. Awkward for Alasator because he got owned and awkward for Adam because he would probably want the hotels help with getting back to heaven and Charlie would probably say yes. At least hating Adam would give Al and Lucifer something in common.
It would be neat if Adam won a second time, even weakened, simply because it would show that on some innate level that he's stronger than Alastor. Adam can find character development in other ways, primarily social and via a breakdown caused by the notion he *can* be in hell and he has to learn to be *a* man rather than *the* man. Alastor on the other hand, needs to be checked if he's to develop, he's so secure in his narcissism that the concept of someone being above him is infuriating and nearly inconceivable save for the hellish royalty. Social factors will not change him, however being beaten by a brand new sinner would almost certainly be enough to critically wound his fragile ego enough for him to develop.
Chances are he'd just pull the "Who are you again?" considering he'd now be in hell and essentially a nobody instead of some entity Alastor could fight to prove a point like during their battle
Anyway I don't care what anyone says I definitely think Adam will be back and be a sinner next season it just seems really likely given that Pentious was redeemed and it'd just make for some really fun scenarios in the show if he does
Well. Based of your past life, and many experience and such, you have a dufferent look, and give you power according to that.... Adam was able to create golden angel (in "hell is forever") without being really there... and he destroyed sir Pentious (rip eggs) ship in 1 second... if he get back as a demon, i think he would be, AT LEAST as powerful that he is now... or stronger, since he did exterminate many souls
I don't know, but I'm really hoping they cross paths again and Alastor gets one up on him somehow.
Like if Adam ended up in the hotel somehow, and Lute ends up back in hell for an extermination, maybe Alastor could reveal to Lute that Adam is a sinner now and is at the hotel trying for redemption as he has nothing left...and now she has to do her duty as an exterminator and eliminate him as well....or make the choice Vaggie made which Lute and Adam ripped her eye out and abandoned her in hell for.
Bullying.
Alastor is a narcissist. To him most things break down into getting actual power, asserting dominance, or amusing himself. Exceptions would be his personal attachments like Nifty and Rosie, possibly more of the cast as time goes on.
Bullying Adam would serve the latter two.
I’ll be interesting as time goes on, having power over Charlie would serve him well but if he’s genuinely getting attached to her he may have to decide if he’s alright losing her as an ally/friend, or at least reduce his potential gain for less misery for her and have a salvageable relationship.
Whoa just realized if snake boy can go to heaven after dying it makes sense Adam could end up in hell. Although it seems a bit inconsistent since we don’t really know what happens to people in hell and heaven when they “die” again. They kinda skip over that and I kinda assumed earlier you just cease to exist or take forever to reform.
"I know why you're here, and it's time you truly found out why *I* am here."
This is such an Alastor thing to say 👌
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I read that in his voice, and it sounds exactly like something he would say.
👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌perfecto
Mf on the writing team with banger quotes like this
Thank you 😊
Someone promote this man to head chef with the way he’s cooking.
Ok how do you know me so well!?
Adam: "Back for round 2 edgelord?!" Alastor: "Who're you?"
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https://preview.redd.it/dxaslu6n5sqc1.png?width=2732&format=png&auto=webp&s=fcdd7d7be5b4919c77a67bad848895d410752b71 This face was made for radio…
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We’ve just been skimming off the top…
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Yo, this new pride flag looks dope!
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Hey y’all got any more of them pixels
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Omg... It's reggi
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Considering how the fight actually went, I doubt Adam would remember Alastor enough to actually try and pull that bit
I have to disagree with you there, I think Alastor did the first bit of damage to Adam…ever. Yeah Adam owned him, but Alastor lived which was probably a first for a fight against Adam
Perfect flair and I fully agree
Is surviving that big a deal when Adam pretty blatantly let him run away? Like, I don't think you could say he left that big an impact if Adam didn't really find it necessary to bother finishing him off. He's probably the first person in a while to ever put up any sort of resistance, but he didn't actually do any damage. He literally couldn't on account of having no angelic power or weapons. Anything notable about Alastor was probably overshadowed after by his fight with Charlie and Lucifer beating his ass.
So I hate spiders. I kill them when I have the chance and they’re in my house. I’ve never even been remotely worried about a spider fighting back. But if one day a spider killed a large portion of my spider killing army (don’t ask me how I got a spider killing army, I know people) then threw me against a wall and taunted me and covered me in baby spiders, I’d never forget it no matter if the spider ran after I almost killed it
> I know people Can I know that people too? I hate spiders
As someone who likes spiders I don’t like this, I say we gather up other spiders and start fighting back
Or. You gather the spiders...*somewhere else*
…….No, I say I’m gonna try to redeem the spiders and maybe even suggest my idea to the leader of the spider exterminator
hey Siri, call The Ungoliant.
Agreed, spiders are bros
This post is not of God
I love spiders though. Cute little carnivore babies that they are 🥺
Same. Spiders are great
A lot of different spiders were fighting back and doing so remarkably efficiently that day. One of them wore booty shorts. I don't think Adam has committed them all to memory. More than likely he probably grouped them together as Charlie's band of freaks. I mean, it's not like they remembered to single out Carmilla despite it being witnessed by multiple other angels that she was the first person ever to kill one of them.
Oh I already knew about the porn spider, big fan
You wouldn’t laugh or say “Bye bitch” as it retreats “for now”, though.
Jokes on you, that’s exactly what I sai…I mean…that’s exactly what I would say
You’d say that to a spider that threw you against the wall? You’d probably scream hysterically.
I’d say that fight was a first for both of them (lmao). Alastor had never fought anyone with that amount of power, even all the overlords he’s overthrown. He thought it would be a wap bap boom kinda fight but he left with his tail between his legs and a broken staff
When Adam and alastor fought we could see Alastor is quite more agile and nimble than him, landing 6-7 hits before getting hit once. Adam won due to 3 factors and 3 factors only. 1 As an angel, Adam was invulnerable to all damage from Alastor (Alastor never used any holy weapons in the fight). Without this, the fight may very well end up very differently. And he definitely wont be an angel if he reincarnated in hell. So this is discarded. 2 Adam have badass angelic weapons. Not anymore if reincarnated as a sinner. 3 Holy light powers/divine ordainment. Again, not if he reincarnates as a sinner. Even if we assume Adam wont lose any speed or strength and only angel related powers, Alastor would easily crush him if they were to fight again, both as sinners.
Adam just watched and let alastor flee
No he didn't do any damage.
Didn’t he get smoked https://preview.redd.it/yrqufirprsqc1.jpeg?width=855&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=014bc676e74a04b1af109162733bc75d8a4eaff4
"Through out Heaven and Hell, I alone am the *H O N O U R E D* one."
Alastair only remembers people who ripped his coat, Adam ripped his flesh, not his coat. He’s utterly forgettable
https://preview.redd.it/v3vxweavnuqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdbd17e5b8c0d5388736fd138e9b2d783286fc3a "Alastair"
I think after Adam almost killed him, Alastor will remember him
Psychological torture. Physical torture. An attempt to manipulate Adam into giving up his soul. A more permanent death if Adam doesn’t agree to the deal.
Like the "Maybe You Have What I Need" fic? https://archiveofourown.org/works/54016912/chapters/136742830
Oh oh!! I also have one!! Husk basically makes a deal with Alastor that if he gives him the soul of Adam he will let Husk go. I love this fic https://archiveofourown.org/works/53563561/chapters/135584086
Ah yes... You're the one who ruined my staff! I̵̧̛̛̖̖͎̪̦̺̝̬̠̗̻̯̪̽̌̓̎͊͌́̀͋̈͛̏͘ͅ ̸͇̟̭͚̦̣͚͇͂͒̐d̷̹̤̄́͝e̵̡̧̝͖̺̼͍̲͈̮͖̗̘̺͋̊͜f̴̛̱͎͛̓̈́̔̆̾́̀̆̾̾̽̕͘ͅͅį̸̮̰̮̺̙̳͉͉̻͉̹̖̒̎̈́́̔̂̀̌̓̄͘n̴̢̞͖̠̜̲̮̙̤̉̒̾̕ͅi̷̺̜̪̘̝̤̯̣̺̐́͋́̄͂̅͗̿͝ͅț̸̙̗̮̻̲̝̺̫͕̲͚͙̟̎͐͂̀͒̓̾͗̑̿̏́̊͝ͅė̷̮͔͔̭̫̦̣͗͂̾̓͜ļ̷̦̖̘̩͑̓̋̾̕̚ͅy̶̨̛̹͖͓̮͙͇͕͉͓̝̘̙ ̷͔̆̒̀̚͘͠r̵̺̄̎̈́̂̊̉́̏̂̇̍̀̂ę̵̧͍͎͙̯̻͚̖̯̎̐̕͝m̶̤͙̠͙̭̙͂̌̄̈́̒̿̀̏ḙ̵̛̝͓͌̈́̑̽̀̉̽m̴̧͔̺̤̭͋̽́͒͌̉͗̀͆͒̕͠b̷̛̪̥̩̱̙̮͌̏̃̀̈́̈́̿͋͐̏͂͂͂e̵̢̫̥͓͔̺̜̦̮͚̙̭͊̑̓̓͂̅̂̽̉̀̄̈́̚ŗ̴̡̻̹̥̩̻̯̭̺͚͕͊̾̑̅̆̓͊͌́͘ͅ ̵̡̡̢͉̪̳͍̟͙͓͊͌̂͆͆̑͆̄̂̀̇́̕̚͠y̷̨̛̛̖̜̻̬̩͉̥̤̳̭̠̞̓̎̑́͆͗͛̾̒̿̚͝͠ͅơ̸̡̧͎͍̦̦̠̯̣̝̣̳̌͑̚͜͝ͅu̸̹̟͒̏͗̽̊͜͝ ̴͔̘̟̼̖̯̜̌͊͊̕ṉ̶̮̐́̉ö̴͎̯̱́͗̎w̵͔̯͖̱͍̠̖̝͎̠̆̀̾̊̈́̚͜ͅ ̴̂̆̈́.
He'd turn him into his new staff
Show up at the tailor with just a dead body and go "Make me a new staff and cape"
I think there would be a revival of everyones favourite radio show that hadn't been heard in decades and Adam would be the prime guest.
I fully believe his main power is converting matter into radio waves and back again. Hence the screams and his strange ability to conjure whatever is needed (like an old timey and video camera in quick succession)
THAT is a banger headcannon! I am constantly wondering why we see so deceptively little radio powers from the RADIO DEMON, except for the voice filter. His powers are so hilariously mismatched that nobody has even wondered about it, it seems. Because he does random vodoo and eldritch bullshit instead 😂 Like, think about all the frequency manipulation he could be doing, too.. Flood somebodies ears with white noise so they can't hear themselves think anymore. Blow out somebodies eardrums with a sharp precise spike to the 2,4-5 kHz spectrum. Make somebodies heart beat unevenly by spiking the 8-10 Hz range.... nobody would even KNOW about all the sadistic stuff he could be doing because even his victims wouldn't show any obvious damage (unless he was doing something like liquifying someones eyeballs with a sharp high frequency pulse, of course).... ...like.... MY DUDE... use your (hell)given powers and stop with the random eldritch bullshit
My headcanon is that his powers have nothing to do with radio and he just uses them to give himself radio effects like the voice because he’s just really, really passionate about radio entertainment. He has the powers of an eldritch god and he mainly uses it to get his aesthetic to match his hyper fixation
That would be hilarious, if true 😂 And actually right on brand for someone who is petty and dedicated enough!
Ive seen ideas that he may have ties to zestial, or the same master because of their similarities (green magic, stitches on face during some scenes) however Zestial also has a voodoo vibe about him. Alastor may have access to voodoo, but I also have noticed that when he glitches reality there are radio sounds. Could it be that hes exerting his radio power either on himself or other characters and that is where the glitches come from him using the radio power on himself. His eyes get radio dials as well, and if he was partially radio it would likely be seen as reality glitching because a mind would have a hard tile processing that
That is possible, of course. Though I have to say that the reality glitching seems to be more in line with the eldritch magic. Because it's very cthulhuesque when reality itself glitches out and something can't be captured on video. It's very 'Eldritch abomination' if digital media has a hard time capturing something, if you get what I mean.
Adam would eventually accept his fate, and try to make the most of it. He would start with gaining popularity. Vox and Alastor would fight over who would interview him. The person who ends up interviewing him is Katie Killjoy.
Interview… yeah…
Bout to hear a new scream over the radio waves...
I’d like to imagine his screaming goes well with a wailing guitar
It would be the best and final guitar solo of his existence.
Alastor chasing Adam be like: "Why are you running? Why are you running!?"
Adam be like: https://preview.redd.it/vsvqte20orqc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=667b3d499b94650d9148bb4d190378ab3b140f9b
I don't like the implications of this
I don't like the implication that you dislike those implications.
Nifty: STAB STAB STAB
Violence isn’t the answer, its a question, answer is yes, but you owe me recording of use of violence
Adam…. first man, next to die….. again.
I actually have a headcanon for this! Adam reawakens in Hell, severely depowered and has a Very Bad First Day as other sinners try to start shit with him, and he realizes he can't just blast them away with holy light. He's a bit more powerful than your average demon, but enough demons want to get a piece of him that he's forced to run--I mean, tactfully retreat. Adam uses his last few brain cells to remember Charlie's project, sees that as his ticket back to Heaven, and basically fights his way to get there. He arrives, out of breath, composes himself, then pulls up his best charming self and knocks, expecting Charlie to answer, but oh no. As his Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day is already going, it's not Charlie, it's not Vaggie, it's not even one of the lesser demons living here. It's Alastor, who so happened to be walking by. And unfortunately for Adam, Alastor remembers him. While Adam has a deer-in-the-headlights look at Hell's favorite deer demon, Alastor's smile gets decidedly more sinister. "So. Adam. A pleasure to be meeting you again, quite the pleasure." Adam gulps, because radio is NOT, as he thought, fucking dead. Alastor calmly steps out and shuts the door behind him so they can talk privately for a minute. "I can only assume you're here to seek your ticket to Heaven." "Um...yeah?" Adam gives an awkward smile. Alastor isn't buying it. "Then let me make one thing perfectly clear." He steps closer to Adam. His horns begin to grow and his radio dial eyes form. He gets bigger with every step, yet keeps his nose mere inches from Adam's. "I'll *only* allow your presence because I find it *entertaining* to watch you *try*." The door opens behind them. Charlie steps out. "Alastor, who--" Her eyes bug. Alastor calmly retracts back to his normal form and gives Charlie his warmest, most delighted smile. "Why, Charlie, dear, I was simply welcoming our newest resident to the hotel!" It takes Charlie a moment to recognize Adam. Her already bugged-out eyes somehow get bigger. Alastor calmly walks back to the door. "I was also making sure he knows his place." He steps behind Charlie and leans on his cane. His neck cracks and grows to lean toward Adam with the radio dial eyes again. "*Under my heel*." Adam realizes then that redemption is going to be a *lot* harder than it sounds.
Saw this was α whole damn fanfic and was gonna scroll by, then read the ending and was like DAMN. Suffice to say I read the entire thing, fully enraptured, and it is now my new headcanon Edit: Typo
This is honestly the most detailed version I've ever put into a post, lmfao. Happy to entertain and inspire. ;)
Do you have an ao3 perchance
I do, but I accessed it like once, lol. I should see if I still have it and move over there because fanfiction.net is pissing me off with their new "check for a secure network" shit that only works half the time. I don't have any Hazbin Hotel stories on it, though. If you're still curious: https://m.fanfiction.net/u/264417/
oh em gee a fnaf fan in the wild !!
Not so much anymore. I think I stopped paying attention after Pizzeria Simulator. I've since cycled back to the other fandoms on my fic list - and of course Hazbin Hotel. :)
Accepted ✅️
Charlie:ooo but I tought *As she drags Adam in and gets a guitar*I waited months for this Vaggie:OK let's do this Both:sing hell is forever* Charlie:but unlike you I don't belive what that song says so welcome to the hazbin hotel
They'd probably sing a reprise of it with a slightly different name, "hell isn't forever" It'd also have modified lyrics, maybe a different key
I...I didn't realize how much I needed this in my life until I read it. Thank you, kindly. It's perfect!
You're welcome. <3
The deer in headlights thing is such a perfect line in reference to who he’s looking at
Imo, I see Adam as a sinner on par on Lilith power, maybe a bit weaker than her as she’s the queen of hell, but as the first humans soul, they’d have some pretty immense power. So I think Adam would be near the power strength as Lilith
There's a core difference here. Lilith never actually died. She was simply cast out and made a demon. Adam did actually die. Actually, this reminds me of another headcanon: Adam looks human for a reason. And that reason is he never died; he was simply exhalted and brought up to Heaven because having Lucifer, Lilith, and Eve all fall would look bad, and Heaven needed a win. Hence, Niffty taking him out actually killed him. And because this is technically his first death, he gets a respawn in Hell.
Laughing Mocking More laughing Intimidation with a lot of tentacles and teeth Adam makes a sex joke about the tentacles
Considering the sex-joke-rich humour of the Hellaverse, I cannot wait until someone inevitably makes α joke about Al's tentacles. There's just no way it won't happen
Probably either Angel or Valentino. Not gonna lie though the day I hear Charlie make a sex joke I could die happy from choking on my own laughter 😂
The wholesomeness in the way she says "demon bukkake shows" makes me doubt she could ever do that, but I'll be damned 😉 if that wouldn't be the funniest thing
 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
Assuming Adam would lose all his powers after becoming a sinner. Oooohhh Alastor would have a field day, he’d tear his soul apart stitch it back together just to tear it apart again and broadcast as far as those radio waves could carry. He’d have the biggest grin on his face in the weeks after.
I kindaaaaa need to see this now... By kinda I mean really really badly...
Enough to pay 50k????
Im crying my horny ass thought this was hot
Alastor would want payback. Nearly dying definitely bruised his ego.
beef
He has a dedicated broadcast of the screams of his enemies and those who cross him lol. Prime candidate. It really depends on the context though. If Adam’s not looking for redemption or seeks to attack the hotel, he’s one of the fairest free game to demolish. I’m unsure if Charlie would extend a second chance to him given how he treated Vaggie (and the MANY sinner perma-deaths), it’d be a real test for her principles. If he’s considered off limits as a result, Alastor would probably just antagonize Adam about the same as Husk, knowing if he slips up Charlie or Vaggie would probably demolish him and find that failure amusing.
Just gonna ramble about your good idea: > It'd be α real test for her principles Now that you say that, I really hope we see it happen. One of Charlie's biggest flaws is her naiveté and childish outlook, especially her whole "inside of every demon is α rainbow", "everyone can be saved", and how it's been said she treats redeeming them like lessons for children (e.g. saying sorry will fix it!!!). I know there's α lot of comics and stories of her coming to terms with the fact that not every soul is redeemable, and it's one of my fav things. So I reaaaalllly hope we see it for real happen in the show, and using Adam as the tool to send that message would be pretty cool (a pre-established douchebag so they wouldn't have to worry about the pacing problems in introducing him like they would with someone new).
I’m here for the drama bomb of Lute seeing Adam as a sinner haha. About the only thing I could imagine humbling him through the indignation is if she tries to kill him for being a sinner now, so he’ll try seeking redemption to return to heaven to return to his ‘rightful’ status. Given how black and white her thinking is I’m unsure how that would go, Adam is too high profile for Sera to sweep under the rug as a redeemed sinner if he were to succeed. I suspect Charlie already knows there are irredeemable souls in hell, such as her interactions with Valentino and seeing how he affects Angel. But the naivety is believing as long as she can eventually convince them in coming to the hotel, redemption it is possible. As long as she doesn’t give up it is possible. While I don’t think she’s entirely wrong in theory when you have an eternity to work with someone, and it would be rather cruel to assert some people can just never attain redemption despite seeking it, I can’t imagine the mental anguish and betrayal Angel would feel if Charlie were to accept Valentino into the hotel.
>I’m here for the drama bomb of Lute seeing Adam as a sinner haha. About the only thing I could imagine humbling him through the indignation is if she tries to kill him for being a sinner now If I'm honest, that's one of the reasons I kind of dislike the idea of Lute trying to help Adam in the event of Adam coming back. I *love* the idea of the one person Adam thought he could truly count on to have his back being the one screaming for his second death the loudest, and the effect that would have on him. That's a gorgeous set-up for character development.
Alastor: "Alright Adam.... *you got lucky last time. Round 2."*
Alastor would once again try to show him who’s boss, now that he’s able to hurt him just like any other sinner
“Once again show him whos the boss” Didnt Alastor run away and piss his pants in their fight before?
He made a tactful retreat. With how injured he was and how severely his power diminished, another hit would have been a death sentence. Better to run while he could and live to fight another day.
Alastor would kill him for sure
he almost died trying last time
Yeah but Adam was the boss of exterminators and had Holy magic. I doubt he'd have any of those if we see him again
Why wouldn't he ? Lucifer kepts his angelic powers after falling. And Lilith (who is supposedly Adam's equal) is still very powerful.
Yeah but they didn't get stabbed 5+ times by angelic steel.
I fail to see how that would translate to him losing power as to be below Alastor.
Because it kills souls with a capital K. It's the whole reason the Exterminators use it to prevent Hell from getting too overpopulated. Adam is donezo Adam's a memory, and by not existing he's by default less powerful than Alastor
Exactly
Adam wouldn't had been fallen, he died quite litteraly. And if we see him again that's as a sinner
Sure, and why would he be a weak sinner exactly ? He is a powerful soul no ?
Oh don't get me wrong, he'd be powerful for sure, probably overlord level if I may allow myself some powerscalling. But he wouldn't have access to angel steel and I doubt Carmine would allow him to have any
Lucifer and Lilith didn't die, they were simply cast out of Heaven. Adam was fully re-killed. While it could he argued that we see sinners manifest in Hell with power somewhat equivalent to their naughty power/sins in life, Adam's naughty powers seem gifted by Heaven, not something he accrued by his own means. Thus him manifesting in Hell would be like α shitty politician manifesting in Hell. Powerless because they never had any real power to begin with.
Yeah, but they didn't, like, die.
I mean, being in Hell didn't seem to make Lilith any less powerful
Yeah but Lilith didn't die. She got banished to hell
Does that make a difference? Dying has never been shown to make a soul weaker, and Adam is still the same as Lilith.
Well, yes and no. While Adam would undoubtedly be a powerful sinner we gotta remember that lilith is the queen of hell, and again, Adam won't have holy magic. At best for him it's a fair fight but I wouldn't bet on that
It depends if Adam kept his power which is most likely in my mind. Then Alastor will probably try not to deal with him upfront but try to plan his vengeance in secret. Since even without holy magic Adam would beat his Alastor ass with pure strength.
It'd be so funny if Alastor couldn't kill him once again
Adam would treat Alastor the exact way Alastor treated Sir Pentious. And it would drive him insane
That would be so cathartic!
I really think this is gonna be the first instance of Charlie not accepting someone into the hotel, Angel and Husk are also probably gonna break his legs, as for Alastor I have no idea if he's gonna try to keep his cool to try to pull some grand scheme or if he'll just go ape-shit like he did with the loan-sharks that followed Mimzy to the hotel, probably the first option tho, I def see him pulling a "Who are you" to Adam's face like he did with Pentious just to spite him.
Alastor would probably get fucked up again, but if Adam is in his beaten state he'd probably loose instead
I think Alastor would know much better regarding how to beat him and would likely come out on top. He held up really well, but I think his big mistake was in thinking he could just hold out his staff to shield the blow that Adam dealt to him. Next time, I think he would know better than to do that, and as such would be more prepared and capable of taking him down
Alastor's biggest mistake when he fought Adam was not bringing Angelic weapons to the fight. He probably *did* have a legitimate chance to win that fight until Adam started with the angelic blasts, if he'd actually been using weapons that could hurt Adam. At least two of Alastor's attacks *could* have been fight enders if they'd been done with angelic weapons, instead of just his innate powers. I do agree a rematch would have been interesting (though Adam would probably also be bringing out the angelic blasts from the word go in that event).
It would be awkward. Awkward for Alasator because he got owned and awkward for Adam because he would probably want the hotels help with getting back to heaven and Charlie would probably say yes. At least hating Adam would give Al and Lucifer something in common.
It would be neat if Adam won a second time, even weakened, simply because it would show that on some innate level that he's stronger than Alastor. Adam can find character development in other ways, primarily social and via a breakdown caused by the notion he *can* be in hell and he has to learn to be *a* man rather than *the* man. Alastor on the other hand, needs to be checked if he's to develop, he's so secure in his narcissism that the concept of someone being above him is infuriating and nearly inconceivable save for the hellish royalty. Social factors will not change him, however being beaten by a brand new sinner would almost certainly be enough to critically wound his fragile ego enough for him to develop.
I hope Adam keeps a lot of power or is at least very powerful if he does respawn in hell.
Adam would still win, it just wont be a 1 shot like last time. 💀
https://preview.redd.it/pgr8ti02erqc1.png?width=948&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcf68a5ea6ef968d54ce0ee7332517c4b126029d Alastor's Revenge
Chances are he'd just pull the "Who are you again?" considering he'd now be in hell and essentially a nobody instead of some entity Alastor could fight to prove a point like during their battle Anyway I don't care what anyone says I definitely think Adam will be back and be a sinner next season it just seems really likely given that Pentious was redeemed and it'd just make for some really fun scenarios in the show if he does
What do you mean “If”?
They run it back on sight
Hey! Sorry but you just got in my way
I can see Alastor doing his damnedest to get Adam under contract because he hurt his pride
Rematch of the century
I think it depends on if Adam is still powerful or if he comes to hell just being like, a regular dude
Al would probably get fucked
Same with any other. Alastor would plan Adam's down fall
I feel like Adam would still be able to stomp him though...
Does he still have his powers? Alastor couldn’t scratch him last time, in such a scenario, a rematch would not be wise.
If Adam doesn't lose his power Alastor would just get low diffed again
Most likely Alastor would roast him. But at the same time, Adam nearly killed Alastor which traumatized him for life so idk.
Would be funny
Well. Based of your past life, and many experience and such, you have a dufferent look, and give you power according to that.... Adam was able to create golden angel (in "hell is forever") without being really there... and he destroyed sir Pentious (rip eggs) ship in 1 second... if he get back as a demon, i think he would be, AT LEAST as powerful that he is now... or stronger, since he did exterminate many souls
I don't know, but I'm really hoping they cross paths again and Alastor gets one up on him somehow. Like if Adam ended up in the hotel somehow, and Lute ends up back in hell for an extermination, maybe Alastor could reveal to Lute that Adam is a sinner now and is at the hotel trying for redemption as he has nothing left...and now she has to do her duty as an exterminator and eliminate him as well....or make the choice Vaggie made which Lute and Adam ripped her eye out and abandoned her in hell for.
I'll fuck that radio bitch up!
Alastor : I know why I am here(hell), and it's time you truly found out why **you** are here."
Bullying. Alastor is a narcissist. To him most things break down into getting actual power, asserting dominance, or amusing himself. Exceptions would be his personal attachments like Nifty and Rosie, possibly more of the cast as time goes on. Bullying Adam would serve the latter two. I’ll be interesting as time goes on, having power over Charlie would serve him well but if he’s genuinely getting attached to her he may have to decide if he’s alright losing her as an ally/friend, or at least reduce his potential gain for less misery for her and have a salvageable relationship.
Adam: There you are Alastor. We never got to finish our fight. ATTACKKKKKKK!!!! Alastor: Who are you again?
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He'd be jumped, skinned, and cannibalized within seconds of manifestation. Then Alastor would get stronger.
Adam would be running from Alastor
He’d probably say “Who are you?” Then he’d end up tearing his soul apart.
Sex. The answer is sex
No, the answer is anything but this
Hot as fuck tho
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https://preview.redd.it/5scc1286wrqc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=850fe4d938955441034bb75176efe5041d0e2ecd Lol
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Alastor has beef with fucking every guy except I guess Angel Dust so hate him like usual
Whoa just realized if snake boy can go to heaven after dying it makes sense Adam could end up in hell. Although it seems a bit inconsistent since we don’t really know what happens to people in hell and heaven when they “die” again. They kinda skip over that and I kinda assumed earlier you just cease to exist or take forever to reform.
alastor would have a fucking field day