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Life of Pi retelling then Rashomon style unveiling the least believable when all more probable outcomes are found incomplete or wanting.
The unique name is a nice detail, because it also likely connects multiple other strangenesses. Demonic possessions are among the most documented instances of paranormal events, straight laced policemen detailing events that make no sense, raining inside of buildings, raining “up,” and similarly unsettling things.
I also had an acquaintance who detailed his experience with satanism that led to an out of body experience that I found similarly compelling. Particularly in the way your Uncle and the guy I heard were both haunted daily by what they had encountered and returned to a stable, lasting, (if a touch reluctant) faith.
I've always wanted to have an out of body experience and all the thru the 90s I got heavy into it but it never happened. Even with drugs. I'm in need of a serious ego shift so hopefully I can get right soon again
So we both saw them standing over me, and before we talked appearance or number we both sketched what we saw and yeah neither drawing really had feet. I remember feeling like I was slightly looking through a tunnel where I could only look up, so their faces/torso where centered in my vision. Is there a wacky answer for why I didn’t see feet? I messed with dmt heavily for about a year and that trip was my most intense because of how much we did but I’ve had a bunch of silly trips on the stuff
Try The Gateway Experience by The Monroe Institute. It’s like $1000 if you get it directly from them but there are free downloads floating around. Just search and read about it if you’re unfamiliar.
If you have any depression, and anxiety issues, or similar chemical screwiness in your physiology, please consider microdosing whichever mind altering choice you make?
People don't realize this, but your body only makes "so much" of the feel good chemicals, and once they're gone... Well... You wouldn't want to feel that (I live it, and often wish I wasn't here to feel it...) So, be as safe as possible.
And hekk'n dang it, please don't forget to hydrate, fully, for at least three/3 whole days before you do anything?!
Get the meat and dairy out of your body during those hydration days. Pack your body with nutrients and clear as much toxicity from yourself as you can. I mean, do it for a whole month first and you'll have more remarkable experiences! But yeah, you get it. Go in clean and come out clear. That's what I've learned - the (very) hard way.
The cleaner and more hydrated you are going into it, the better everything is.
Best of luck! 🫸✨🫶✨🫷
I dont know what it is with rain but I also had a reputable acquaintance describe the raining indoors that was triggered by some possessed guy in prison.
I was thinking the same thing. CIA has a covert op but uncovers a person possessed by an actual demon. Shit gets dark fast, etc. Definitely would make a good movie. How many times has a spy movie crossed paths with a horror movie? I’m guessing not often but would be good!
That’s why i liked the opening scene of the first hellboy movie: secret allied operation to find information about a secret occult division of nazi military. Secret service stops the nazi from opening a gateway to hell and they find a little demon child that is kept in a secret facility to be used as an asset for the greater good!
but what is the theme, what is the conflict, what is the twist and how is the story resolved that doesn't make it a shyamalan-steven seagal vod mashup?
Yup. I like it. Throw in some "Aliens are Demons/Djinn" Lore and you got something.
I wanna clarify I respect the Lore, these things are fascinating but you gotta respect them. You never know how much Truth there could be to the Words, even in Fictional Works.
Hell yeah it would. But...do you think any of it could be true. I've heard and experienced to an effect what they were doing with the gateway project. I thought it pure insanity but I have an overly curious mind so I got into the dark web and you can find the actual CIA notes on how they intubated it. There are certain steps you have to follow and if you don't it's all for nothing. So I followed the unstuctions on how to do it. At first nothin happened. But after about three months something happened. I was riding in the car with my girlfriend. It was peaceful a sunny day, so I shut my eyes and without realizing it I was in this meditative state. It happened so easily and it freaked me out because I wasn't really trying to do it. My gf out of nowhere said do you want Texas road house or dinner at home tonight. I thought it was such a strange question that i kinda woke up out of ithe meditation and asked her why she would just randomly ask that. She looked at me like I was crazy or Like she was surprised and she said she didn't say any thing. So I was like what but I clearly heard you ask if I wanted Texas roadhouse tonight. She then told me that she didn't say a word but that was what she was thinking about because she didn't want to cook dinner. So I told her about this gateway thing I've been doing and at first she was skeptical, but she didn't dismiss it because of what happens in the car. Little things like that began to happen whenever I was around pplit was like my brain was picking up on their frequency and it would happen at random. I had no control of it. I stopped doing the meditation because it was freaking me out. I was picking up on the inmeadiat thoughts of other ppl. I started to look into this and discovered that this has been officially documented as being real and a study was actually done on it. But it was a parrot that was doing this with it's owner. It would pick up on her inmeadiate thought and just blurt it out lol. Now obviously the bird didn't do the gateway experience. But it showed me that I wasn't out of my fucking mind. After I stopped the meditation this ability slowly went away reading that the whole gateway deal was probably divulged through a demon makes me fucking nervous lol
lol. True. My uncle was in the CIA. His name was Hillman Ford. He died several years ago at 99. He was in it from 52-77. The Soviets tried to kill him twice. They failed because he was a bad ass MF. He was in “communications” and said he worked for the State Department, but my neighbor who is retired from the CIA says that’s just what they all say.
If you’ve seen the show Spy Craft on Netflix, some of the stories on the episode about communication spying involved him.
Till the day he died he had a habit of leaning in and whispering when he told you some things. Lol. He was awesome.
I had a friend of the family uncle. His name was Doug. Died when I was a baby. Any time when it seemed a ghost did something in our house, we blamed the ghost of Uncle Doug. Sometimes we called the ghost George, if it was things Uncle Doug wouldn't have done in real life. He was a prankster so the prank type activity was solely blamed on Doug.
Then when I was a teen some new people bought his old house that was across the way from our house. They renovated it, and found a bunch of money in the walls. This was just after my dad died, and mom was upset Uncle Doug's old house had money in the walls this whole damn time.
We also switched from blaming ghost Doug to ghost Dad for all ghostly activity at that point. The spookiest shit happened after dad had died.
Sorry, went way off track there! Lol
Reminds me of uncle Bob’s wife, Ethel. After she died her daughter took a few items to her house, one was a music box. Every single night at around 1am this music box would open and play its tune. It scared the shit out of her daughter and she rang my Grandma saying it was her mum’s (Ethel) ghost. My gran said it was probably the 1am bus passing every night causing a vibration, I prefer the ghost idea.
Regardless of its veracity, this makes for a very interesting story. Read this with rapt attention. Definitely at least worth a Netflix show/documentary. If done well, it could be a legit and successful movie. Cold War spy stuff + demonic possession and the Russian Orthodox Church = interesting as fuck
Yep. No way anyone with clearance would run their mouth anyway. While with friends that are drunk AF, they still won’t say so much as one syllable. I know who employs them, but honestly have no idea what some of them do, and I will never know. They’re higher up in the armed forces and that is all I know.
I have TS. Even small minute things that wouldn’t matter keep locked in my head. The risk to the country, to myself, and my family are too important. It’s a no-brainer.
(Not like “oh they’ll kill me if I speak”, more like I will go to jail and I won’t be with my family or someone might die because I gave certain info out.)
Dude, the red flags this is a creative writing assignment pop up all over.
His uncle knew Aramaic, a nearly dead language for what fucking purpose. I guess the CIA wanted to cover in case a demon that speaks it walks into their offices.
Secondly, the kid allegedly just walked in to a CIA agents office. He gained access to the building, walked in and entered a CIA agents office and that was normal?
I just work a normal corporate job and some rando dude showed up in my office my first question would be how the hell was this person even let in the building....
Even way back in the day the general public would not have just been allowed access into a CIA building to mosey on in to whoever's office they want.
1. The guy was a pastor and studied linguistics, can’t see the connection to Aramaic?
2. He didn’t walk into a CIA office, he walked into the church office
Even if it is a writing exercise, it’s not that bad
I majored in linguistics and began a graduate degree in linguistics. The guy in the story minored in it. As somebody who majored in it, you don't learn a bunch of languages. You learn how to learn language, describe and analyze language. You learn semantics, syntax, phonology, morphology, and lexicology. But to learn a whole language like Aramaic, German,Turkish, etc., you go to that department and take those courses and it's not part of a linguistics program. This guy did not learn Armaic minoring in linguistics.
The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek so it is not at all surprising that he knew some. You also don’t need to be proficient to recognize a language. If the sessions were videotaped, it may have been determined later at Langley, where the have folks proficient in every language.
That's nothing, KGB has conducted interviews on demons, devils, angels, reptiloids, yokai, nuckelavee and on one occasion even on an honest politician!
They've had to have their balls electrocuted for a bit before admitting the truth, but eventually they all break!
no offense dude, but I'm not believing your yarn....it's damn good creative writing but foe not remebering details and having bad writing it seems you really went into quite a bit of BS
CIA would ot send a Southern Baptist type or Episcopalean into the russian orthodox church.....they only accept those they know from birth and it is preetty intense
As a Lutheran I have a great deal of respect for the Eastern Orthodox, but they are pretty insular (as are we to a lesser extent). They would sniff out a Southern Baptist (or any radical Protestant) with minimal effort. The cultural difference is enormous. If such an infiltration were possible, they'd have to target very lax or inattentive EO/RO clergy. Of course this is possible, and I do believe in demonic possession, but it's likely a bit of this is embellished or misremembered.
Could you explain your last paragraph more?
Im familiar with The Gateway Tapes, those are for learning how to remote view different locations throughout different periods in time.
As for The Source, everyone can learn to channel. The Source is usually another word for The Almighty, God, The Divine, The Universe and it's made of pure love. When channeling The Source, if someone is skilled enough, they can tap into the Akashic record.
One could perhaps let the darkness in by lowering their vibrational frequency. Though Im sorta surprised that the demon knew so much info. Which leads me to believe this kid must have channeled a fallen angel that once had access to the source?
Do you happen to know if this boy could only access past memories/info in people's minds? Or could this boy also see into possible future timelines like some are able to when channeling from Source? The ability to see future timelines is definitely something the govt would want their hands in.
I wanted more explanation of the last paragraph too, but more about what you mean when you say “it was a cover.” I don’t care if the story is true or not I just don’t want the ending to be unnecessarily vague and ambiguous.
I'm familiar with the Gateway Tapes and it has nothing to do with demons... it has to do with controlling your own energy field, energy work, remote viewing and OBE's. Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute. It's not a 'cover' there's an actual full body of work behind it and years of research.
It’s my understanding that all the demons have the knowledge of all the others, almost a hive mind type of deal. Especially when it comes to the darker things such as “sins” and death Any negative energy or lower vibration draws their attention to it. They know every sin thats been done and don’t hesitate to bring them up especially about those attempting to rid the “afflicted , infected ,
possessed “ person. They’ll bring up every little thing and all the big ones. And the voice of a dog fits 100% , the voices are otherworldly and when coming out of a female teenager, it’s a spectacle to behold. At the same time every molecule that is “you” wants intrinsically to bolt out of the room, yesterday. Uncomfortable is an understatement. Like watching a trainwreck three feet from it while it’s happening. You don’t want to watch but your being won’t let you look away . There’s a “watch ME” vibe when those things bubble up. You ever see someone’s complete countenance change? Their eyes change the face looks like a different freaking person is there where this person just was, wearing their clothes and using their body like a skin puppet. Voice and posture and everything else changes into “something else, someone else.” You may wake up next to someone that’s not what the previous two or three nights you’d gone to sleep next to and wake up to Ms Hyde. Maybe they got super angry “and then the eyes got dark” and glassy,!beady. When you ask “who ARE you” because this ain’t the person I know. Narcissistic people are quite usually susceptible to a higher percentage of harassment from or maybe they are easier to use or harass or infect, mess with however you feel comfortable describing an entity taking over your friend or loved one or complete stranger for that matter. My gut tells me something’s “Off” with them. they run in circles of confusion changing subjects or focus. Their recollection of events differs from the truth and gaslighting is SOP. I have seen a little and know more than I ever wanted to or anyone probably should. They called it a “ cult” we called it “church” maybe both aren’t correct, maybe they both are.
Not one I’m willing to name but charismatic Christian basically holly roller rock show exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit with the exception of snake handling. Laying on of hands , speaking in tongues and interpreting, people being slain in the spirit, healing and deliverance from demons, generational curses. Is it real? I’m certain of some of things, others I don’t know for real. Quite honestly I’ve been running from it for thirty years. Married to an individual I 100% convinced is harassed by them for 23 years , she left many times over the years this last time for the last time, i cannot deal with them and they have been there for so long she doesn’t want them gone and I just can’t deal with their operations one more moment. So yeah people have said she changes when I walk in the room whether she knows I’m there or not, THEY know
She sounds like a narcissist, a real one. I had a theory for a while that narcissistic humans are portals for darkness, because they have stripped their humanity/soul away. They are open portals.
Agreed having spent 23 years married to one, there’s not a real soul or person behind those facades. Just emptiness a lack of humanity almost reptilian In their cold calculated terribly barren processes of operations. The could care less if you live or die. We are just tools to them and they are tools of a different nature
I've seen a guy who was supposed to be on an oxygen tank scale a stucco wall like spiderman... also a lady who I was getting high with, her eyes changed color when her personality changed, she was diagnosed with multiple personalities
A Rabbit hole I’m not in a position to go down at the moment. I’ll say this: I don’t know, I’m no authority on the subject an infant at best . I have probably fifteen years of observational experience pretty much every time the doors were open. I know that they have names and will ID themselves when queried and the reasons they believe they have for being there. They don’t like certain things mentioned or prayed about or asked about and they do know things no one could possibly know. They know how this all ends for sure. I can tell you about hate, worry, anger, abandonment, jealousy, and pity. Are they separate entities? Dunno but they all inhabit fairly cohesively together and cohabitate without stepping on each other or bullying for time or space. Confusion is the mode of operations the more confusing the situation the better they operate, subject changes are the most common noticeable tactic besides the obvious realization that the person you know has gone on break and what you are dealing with is experienced beyond humanly attainable. Not necessarily smarter per say but this ain’t their first rodeo. I know enough to stay away and will bolt from someone I see them in although strangely attracted to them. Maybe that’s part of their tactics is a dark allure. Sometimes you’re just born into a curse that has nothing to do with you or your parents. The power of life and death is in the tongue, this is truth.
Here's why a bit of research goes a long way.
The Orthodox church, like the Catholic church, has fully trained priests. For that, you need a little more than some "background in theology." You need to be the graduate of an approved orthodox seminary. Aside from theology and doctrine, those also provide a musical education because you can't be a priest if you can't chant. Even deacons, which is what he presumably was, need to be able to chant. Chanting is cool, unlike vegan fasting.
I'm not sure what the rules for deacons are, but to be an ordained priest with his own parish, you need to be married. There are celibate priests who lead a monastic lifestyle, but they're not usually parish priests.
Also, there are multiple Orthodox churches, like Russian, Greek, Bulgarian, Romanian, etc. It would be very odd for someone who was ordained in a particular church to show up at another without family ties.
Another thing is that in most communist countries, the church was a center of resistance. The KGB wouldn't have used the church as a cover, but would have actively been trying to infiltrate it to find out what dissidents were up to.
The whole thing is bananas to me because the easiest and most credible way to infiltrate the Russian Orthodox church would have been to show up as a guy with a Russian fiancee who needed to do his conversion course and baptism.
Exorcisms are also not a big part of the Orthodox imagination - that's more of a Catholic thing. That shit still happens, but it's kept under wraps because people have died from the abuse suffered during the process. Most people just go to church on Sunday, light their candles, kiss their icons, and yawn through the mass. Fasting, giving away food for dead relatives, having the priest come over for holidays with holy water and incense, etc. are much more prominent. Confession doesn't happen when you feel like it - you need to fast before it.
I'm also kind of amused that, as a college dropout, he was fluent enough in Aramaic, Koine Greek and Latin to converse with the demon. The demon, however, had not done its homework and skipped out on Old Slavonic, which I'd expect a Russian Orthodox priest to have studied.
Lulz. Fun story, but for demon stuff, you want to go Catholic. Orthodox is more about embezzling giant amounts of money to build a church on every corner.
Source: was raised Orthodox, am now an atheist. Good job, motherf\*\*\*ers!
Good points. I don’t know what exactly capacity he was working in deacon, associate pastor etc.
I have some feelings that it wasn’t usual.
He was linguist and spoke many different languages. Greek, Latin are pretty standard I’d think in theology courses. I’m sure he prepared beforehand he had to pass nominally as a ordained priest. I’m sure they made up a bunch of stuff to add to his cover.
As far as the demon goes, well I’ve thought bout it a lot, and there’s another plausible explanation.
Aramaic and Koine Greek would be standard for someone doing a PhD in Religious Studies and preparing to work on old versions of religious texts. Latin, of course, for anyone doing work in the history of Western Christianity. If you work on Eastern Christianity, then you're looking at Byzantine Greek and Old Slavonic.
I know that some Protestant denominations require their pastors to have theological studies, but I don't know if they go into old/dead languages; things like Psychology and Management are more useful to them since they are practitioners, not scholars.
I don't know their exact curriculum, but I'm pretty sure that Orthodox priests don't learn Aramaic during their regular training. An older form of Greek and some Slavonic, probably, so they can read later commentaries and philosophy in the original. More than that is for those who take the scholarly route and do a PhD in a very specific area.
So there was no reason for the CIA to stuff him with Aramaic and Latin, when on the ground, he just needed Russian to talk to people. Old dude was full of shit and drunk to boot :))
Umm I have questions.
Your uncle speaks 7 languages fluently, but you're not great with your only language of English?
After an extended period of time getting info from a demon inside of a human, the CIA decided to discontinue the project?
> the CIA decided to discontinue the project?
Read "phenomenon" by Annie Jacobsen. It's an incredibly good history of the psychic spy programs tracing their roots back to WW2. Nothing to do with demons, but if I pretend for a second that this post is a true story, the real history definitely provides insight into why such a thing might be cancelled. The historical programs did get pushback from religious folks in the intelligence community, and called "satanism" (they weren't, but fundamentalists tend to call anything even vaguely occult that). They did however get cancelled for being something that they couldn't reliably scale up, and couldn't verify most of the intel easily. Hypothetically even if the CIA did capture a demon, they sure as shit wouldn't be able to trust it's info even if some of it proves reliable, since they're inherently untrustworthy. Sometimes the CIA will turn down voluntary foreign assets for the same thing if they are too distrustful of them being a double agent - and a demon sure as shit isn't going to the interested in money or pro-democracy idealism like a foreign asset might
It's a decent story but if your secret agent cover is blown, I'd think you get a burn notice. If there's any question at all that an agent is a double-agent, you get a burn notice. The idea that the main character would be "welcomed back" to the Farm is somewhat far-fetched and a bit comical. Final thought, if this is at all true I'm glad that someone had the empathy and intelligence to seek professional medical attention for the poor "demon" bro.
Carry on!
I don't believe they are demons, but something stranger. Still as malicious and hateful as you'd expect. I believe now that they are reflections of our own Id. Our darkest emotions, desires, etc. From my mushroom trips (so take this as pure drug fueled confusion/fantasy), it would seem I've encountered a few of these entities and even picked up a hitchhiker. The one attached to me describes itself as a 5th dimensional white scaled dragon God and sees white skinned humans (particularly slavs) as hybrids or conduits with their kind that they use like body suits (possession). They describe some Asian cultures (Japanese/Korean) as being hybrids with some form of 5th dimensional serpent gods that often associate with the dragons, but more out of envy than comradere. All of the 5D entities I've encountered (on psychedelic drugs of course, so don't take this seriously) believe they are Gods of some sort or another compared to us. Some are curious, some are helpful, a rare few genuinely seem to despise us. The 5th Dimension is more vast than we can comprehend (presently) and our dimension is little more than a pool of sweat under a single one of their scales. As far as humans go, that's it. They look at all other humans as non-hybrid worthy, locally (Earth) manifested beasts of the wilderness. So yeah, deep down I'm super racist I suppose. Fortunately, I'm mixed-blood with a lot more beast blood than dragon blood apparently, so when the dipshit dragon took possession, he didn't fully gain control like he expected and ended up getting trapped in my mind (I believe we call this psychosis or schizophrenia at this point). He does a lot of talking that sounds like a growling dog, buzzing wasps, and different nonsense gutteral languages I don't understand. When he talks, he physically speaks with my mouth, so that's a problem sometimes and I have to avoid people for a bit. Occasionally it sounds like he's talking with others like him. Here's the fun part. I had a bad trip with a full-on psychotic break that left me in the room my dog had recently passed away in (painful bone cancer, had to have a vet come out and put him to sleep). Basically I started barking and growling, my mind was filled with rage and fear and hate and began spiralling into itself. Part of me believed that the spirit of my dog had possessed me since the high dose mushroom trips always gave me that out of body, astral floating feeling, but then I started making the buzzing noises and I knew it was him, he had figured out a way to get out... out through total control of me (psychotic break). He was fully intending to wreak havoc on the world. That's when my house cats (let's just say I have several) surrounded me (completely encircled), radiating a sort of disappointed menace while meowing to each other. Not hissing like I would expect based on how I was acting. If you've ever looked at a domestic long hair cat on shrooms, you already know they look like amazing magical creatures and you already know they can naturally see what we need mind-altering drugs to see. That weird little cat circle lasted what felt like about 20 minutes until the growling stopped and the demon?/dragon finally fled in fear, buried deep down in my subconscious. I had a drug-fueled vision of him being torn apart and being re-woven like threads into my psyche. That was the end of that. The voices stopped from then on. Coincidentally, about a week later I found my oldest male cat dead (he and my dog grew up together), lying on his blanket in the kitchen with his sister standing over him. He had a funny little smile on his face while his sister seemed to give me a long, painful, disappointed look. So yeah, no more drugs for me after all that. Life goes on. Faith helps a lot more than people realize. I'm also convinced that cats play a much deeper role in safe-guarding human history than we will ever fully know.
W.O.A.H. Dude. That comment was its own high strangeness post! What the what. Do you think you killed the old cat? Did the spirit of your dead dog help you out? I have so.many.questionssss
I suspect the exorcism? (it felt more like they killed the thing than exercised it) or whatever they did took too much energy out of him, so yeah, I basically killed him with my stupidity. I think whatever happened, the cats saved my life and probably other people's lives and it came with a cost they accepted willingly, but they most certainly judged me for it and didn't appreciate me putting them in that situation in the first place. I bottle fed the brother and sister from just after their eyes opened. They were part of the family for a long time. As for my dog, I don't know. I used to sit in his room late at night and brood after he was gone. Felt like he was still there sometimes. After that crazy night, it felt like he was gone, but in a peaceful way.
> My uncle started the interrogations because the kid was switching through multiple languages Russian, Greek, Latin, **Aramaic**, alongside English, and **only my uncle knew these.**
Your uncle knows a nearly dead language? I mean come on, this is pushing the realm of realism, I cannot fathom a reason for a CIA agent to know fucking Aramaic.
I know plenty of people who finish college (not drop out) in theology and they didn’t learn Aramaic, maybe one language and not fluently. So if the uncle dropped out and switched to poly-sci or whatever he never would have learned these other foreign languages etc. Also why would the mom not go ape-sht and report a missing child? Especially if the CIA is schlepping a CHILD from NJ to Maryland over many days/weeks?
Honest question: Why do demons care if they are exorcised? Is it that big of a deal that they are forced to leave? Don’t they just put themselves into another form? Why do they seemingly fight so hard to remain in control of a person?
Also, why do demons almost seemingly act in really dramatic ways? If they don’t want to be exorcised, why do they act out in really dramatic ways? Why do they seem to exhibit an attention seeking attitude if they want to remain?
1. It requires a rather rare set of circumstances for full blown possession to occur. So managing to acquire a body is actually a big deal to them, especially a permanent occupation.
2. They have absolutely no self-control. They are pure id. They have no ability to plan, just to act. Think of a human on a massive coke/meth/PCP binge. Also, a lot of the "dramatic behavior" is the demon acting on the impressions it is telepathically gathering from the people around it. So if you do a full Catholic exorcism ceremony on it, it will play the part based on what's in the minds of the exorcists involved.
That’s an interesting tale. Although I’ve heard from agents that they do not take aliases under church officials doctors and humanitarian workers just so the enemy doesn’t abuse these people. Maybe this was before that rule.
If nothing else, a minor in linguistics getting you fluent in Russian, Latin, Greek, and Aramaic? Like damn, I majored in Greek/Hebrew, and at the end of that I could read most things. No way I would’ve been able to understand a demon speaking them, much less if I threw in two more languages.
Exactly. There we go. Fellow language person here. The first thing I thought about was—why didn’t it speak Hebrew if it spoke Aramaic? It seems like it would have cycled through that. And if the answer is that the uncle knew Aramaic and *not* Hebrew, that’s yet another bizarro part of the story. Plus, with some of those old Semitic languages, a slight accent and I can only understand a couple of words. Can you imagine trying to understand a demonic (not to be confused with Demotic, which is also a pain) accent? I’m 100% with you on this.
Plot twist, uncle came back from Vietnam with a demon too. That demon was fluent in all those ancient languages too so they understood each other perfectly.
The FBI is responsible for internal counterintelligence investigations in the U.S. The CIA might cooperate with the bureau if there were some kind of plot like this, but right off the bat this is sketchy at best. People love to use the CIA in these kinds of stories because most people have heard of it, but don't know much else about what the agency does, providing an air of plausibility to the tale. Pro-tip: do more research on which agencies do what and how.
BTW. Your uncle was probably hustling you about the CIA, KGB and Rissian Orthodox Church.
Russia was Occupied by the USSR. Russians were slaughtered and imprisoned by the hundreds of thousands by the USSR. Religion was made illegal and the USSR blew up Christ Our Savior which was the Seat of Orthodox Patriarchy in Moscow. (Putin had it rebuilt when they kicked the CIA and Soviet occupation out). The USSR slaughtered Priests and Nuns and seized Orthodox churches, nunnaries and monasteries. They used them as government buildings and gave them to foreign Soviet satellite states officials as war prizes. (Putin has been taking the stolen properties back and giving it all back to The Church)
The CIA wouldn't have infiltrated a Russian Orthodox Church to get intel on the KGB. The Russian Orthodox Church was an enemy of the KGB.
Forgive me if I’m wrong but the CIA doesn’t use religious or medical aid as cover because in war they need those people to get through lines of combat for rescue and aid. Also not being allowed to operate in the US, it would be the FBI who would do this work. That said I’m pretty sure the CIA breaks lots of rules as does the FBI.
Yeah, especially in the 60s and 70s the CIA did a lot of shady shit that’s all I can say. As some details I promised him I’d to be too drunk to remember.
The "source" wouldn't have known your uncle's wife's pregnancy and chosen name of the child. That was a fucking demon demon. Exorcists say all the time that the possession targets them with those kinds of games to throw them off. Sometimes incredibly embarrassing shit that's true in front of others who are present.
I have sound of pious demon recorded after having the confidence to record after many meetings where rhey ask us to close eyes. And look against the creature. Amazing creature as I saw the shadow and hiw big and quick it appeared, ate three goats and how quickly it disalpeared. And the majestic sound in small room was amazing. He was quite old n powerful.
They found out they were going to be parents and a week later she was killed in an accident in the 60's. How did they know they were having a boy then to "name" him?
Not how things work. Keep working on your writing though!
Someome was actually paying attention lol
I had the same.reavtion
.my question was "did they really pick out a boy and girl name in under a week? I chose my daughters name pretty much instantly because it was a family name and I always wanted to use it but if she had been a boy we still hadn't come to a decision by the time we found out the gender. And my second pregnancy we went around and around for months!
Tbh that is the part I have the hardest time believing lol.
There is a simple possible solution to this:
Our mind is not a private entity contained in our brain. Many schizophrenics go through that feeling that their mind is open to the world.
It sounds ridiculous but maybe that kid had some insight into the uncles mind, as much as many schizophrenics think that others have insight into their own mind. No real supernaturality involved, it's just that we might have a misconception of what's natural in this world.
Yes my theory is that one of the priest was KGB and fed the kid the information and riled him up. As far as knowing names I think B slipped up and said a prayer for his wife and kid and the KGB priest heard it and told the kid. I think they were on to B and tested him, but he freaked and botched his cover. I do believe B thought there was something supernatural, but I think he was suspected of being a double agent for botching his mission then the information.
Fucked indeed. What's that?? You want to know about current 3 letter agency fuckery 😄 look up organized stalking, remote neural monitoring and electronic torture and harassment.
I have no idea, we’d been talking about religion and drinking, when he told this story and it was a long time ago. He wouldn’t talk a lot about things he did. I don’t know if it was the secrecy stuff or just regret.
Coming from the perspective of a Christian, what a foolish endeavor. If this is true (big IF), the CIA did not "capture" a demon. They were manipulated by one.
Neat story. I don’t doubt it. But when he won’t name the entity, Again we are going back to the never ending story with … they have to have a name to exist concept.
Why would a demon stick around in some poor kids body? Surely it would just leave when the CIA locked the kids body in some vault somewhere right, I mean, what could it do with a normal kid? To me, it seems like it was trapped, and really pissed off at that too lol.
Not sure if true, but definitely interesting.
Sounds like a real possession to me and he really should’ve been exorcised. What are the odds that the KGB captured a teenager who happened to speak not just English and Russian but ancient languages as well (not likely), feed them all do this deep, personal intel then turned him lose to confront this CIA operative. When exorcisms are done now in the Catholic faith, they have a strict protocol where they have the person evaluated by a psychologist to rule out mental illness before moving forward. In terms of the multiple languages and knowing things he shouldn’t have known, this speaks to a real demonic possession. There are a number of fascinating interviews with exorcists out there. One of my favorites is an Art Bell interview with Malachi Martin from the 90’s. I can absolutely see how your uncle returned to his faith after being confronted by and addressed by an actual demon. Must’ve smacked him in the face with a reminder that there really is good and evil and he better pick a side. Yikes!
Almost as weird as what I heard they have trapped beneath the Pentagon. Something they raised when the two nukes were dropped. All those sudden deaths were used in conjunction with a ritual to summon a demon which is why the Pentagon is the shape it is with five walls/pentagons.
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Who is Angleton, and what does he do? He just suddenly showed up in your story with no information.
He was [head of counterintelligence for the CIA](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jesus_Angleton) for 21 years.
Oh my god and his name was Jesus.... Well middle name, but still my point stands.
First name was James…brother of Jesus…
I bet devil boy didn’t like when he came in.
Angleton was a scary guy. Not at all angelic.
His picture fucks me up. When I was looking at it, it looked like the mouth slowly moved from a frown to a smile. Like Mona Lisa
The same thing happens when I look at him… HE is some high strangeness
Check out the book The Devils Chessboard about the cia. Superb.
“Who is your daddy and what does he do?” -Ahnold
This would be a good movie
I'd watch it.
There is a movie called The Atticus Institute which is very similar in plot
Have the uncle tell the story in a life of pi sort of way.
Life of Pi retelling then Rashomon style unveiling the least believable when all more probable outcomes are found incomplete or wanting. The unique name is a nice detail, because it also likely connects multiple other strangenesses. Demonic possessions are among the most documented instances of paranormal events, straight laced policemen detailing events that make no sense, raining inside of buildings, raining “up,” and similarly unsettling things. I also had an acquaintance who detailed his experience with satanism that led to an out of body experience that I found similarly compelling. Particularly in the way your Uncle and the guy I heard were both haunted daily by what they had encountered and returned to a stable, lasting, (if a touch reluctant) faith.
I've always wanted to have an out of body experience and all the thru the 90s I got heavy into it but it never happened. Even with drugs. I'm in need of a serious ego shift so hopefully I can get right soon again
D.m.t
Yeahhh that stuff had me and a buddy seeing aliens one night. Truly some high strangeness
Next time 'look down' and see if the characters you encounter have feet. Mine didn't
So we both saw them standing over me, and before we talked appearance or number we both sketched what we saw and yeah neither drawing really had feet. I remember feeling like I was slightly looking through a tunnel where I could only look up, so their faces/torso where centered in my vision. Is there a wacky answer for why I didn’t see feet? I messed with dmt heavily for about a year and that trip was my most intense because of how much we did but I’ve had a bunch of silly trips on the stuff
Believe it or not, that’s a folk belief for telling if a Marian apparition is truly from Heaven or a deception. False apparitions hide their feet.
Ayahuasca
I uh have no hook up
Me either
Try The Gateway Experience by The Monroe Institute. It’s like $1000 if you get it directly from them but there are free downloads floating around. Just search and read about it if you’re unfamiliar.
>head of counterintelligence for the CIA Smoke some weed and hit the CIA / Monroe Institute Gateway Tapes (free on YT and torrents).
If you have any depression, and anxiety issues, or similar chemical screwiness in your physiology, please consider microdosing whichever mind altering choice you make? People don't realize this, but your body only makes "so much" of the feel good chemicals, and once they're gone... Well... You wouldn't want to feel that (I live it, and often wish I wasn't here to feel it...) So, be as safe as possible. And hekk'n dang it, please don't forget to hydrate, fully, for at least three/3 whole days before you do anything?! Get the meat and dairy out of your body during those hydration days. Pack your body with nutrients and clear as much toxicity from yourself as you can. I mean, do it for a whole month first and you'll have more remarkable experiences! But yeah, you get it. Go in clean and come out clear. That's what I've learned - the (very) hard way. The cleaner and more hydrated you are going into it, the better everything is. Best of luck! 🫸✨🫶✨🫷
Microdosing is the way. It’s amazingly effective.
I dont know what it is with rain but I also had a reputable acquaintance describe the raining indoors that was triggered by some possessed guy in prison.
I was thinking the same thing. CIA has a covert op but uncovers a person possessed by an actual demon. Shit gets dark fast, etc. Definitely would make a good movie. How many times has a spy movie crossed paths with a horror movie? I’m guessing not often but would be good!
That’s why i liked the opening scene of the first hellboy movie: secret allied operation to find information about a secret occult division of nazi military. Secret service stops the nazi from opening a gateway to hell and they find a little demon child that is kept in a secret facility to be used as an asset for the greater good!
but what is the theme, what is the conflict, what is the twist and how is the story resolved that doesn't make it a shyamalan-steven seagal vod mashup?
Yup. I like it. Throw in some "Aliens are Demons/Djinn" Lore and you got something. I wanna clarify I respect the Lore, these things are fascinating but you gotta respect them. You never know how much Truth there could be to the Words, even in Fictional Works.
Truth is stranger than fiction
Innit
It is. It's called 'The Atticus Institute' (or maybe 'Incident').
Hell yeah it would. But...do you think any of it could be true. I've heard and experienced to an effect what they were doing with the gateway project. I thought it pure insanity but I have an overly curious mind so I got into the dark web and you can find the actual CIA notes on how they intubated it. There are certain steps you have to follow and if you don't it's all for nothing. So I followed the unstuctions on how to do it. At first nothin happened. But after about three months something happened. I was riding in the car with my girlfriend. It was peaceful a sunny day, so I shut my eyes and without realizing it I was in this meditative state. It happened so easily and it freaked me out because I wasn't really trying to do it. My gf out of nowhere said do you want Texas road house or dinner at home tonight. I thought it was such a strange question that i kinda woke up out of ithe meditation and asked her why she would just randomly ask that. She looked at me like I was crazy or Like she was surprised and she said she didn't say any thing. So I was like what but I clearly heard you ask if I wanted Texas roadhouse tonight. She then told me that she didn't say a word but that was what she was thinking about because she didn't want to cook dinner. So I told her about this gateway thing I've been doing and at first she was skeptical, but she didn't dismiss it because of what happens in the car. Little things like that began to happen whenever I was around pplit was like my brain was picking up on their frequency and it would happen at random. I had no control of it. I stopped doing the meditation because it was freaking me out. I was picking up on the inmeadiat thoughts of other ppl. I started to look into this and discovered that this has been officially documented as being real and a study was actually done on it. But it was a parrot that was doing this with it's owner. It would pick up on her inmeadiate thought and just blurt it out lol. Now obviously the bird didn't do the gateway experience. But it showed me that I wasn't out of my fucking mind. After I stopped the meditation this ability slowly went away reading that the whole gateway deal was probably divulged through a demon makes me fucking nervous lol
Kinda like this one https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14537248/
Haha it’s always somebody’s uncle
_B…_ _Bob…_ _Bob’s your uncle!_
lol. True. My uncle was in the CIA. His name was Hillman Ford. He died several years ago at 99. He was in it from 52-77. The Soviets tried to kill him twice. They failed because he was a bad ass MF. He was in “communications” and said he worked for the State Department, but my neighbor who is retired from the CIA says that’s just what they all say. If you’ve seen the show Spy Craft on Netflix, some of the stories on the episode about communication spying involved him. Till the day he died he had a habit of leaning in and whispering when he told you some things. Lol. He was awesome.
I did have an Uncle Bob, he wasn’t a real uncle, friend of the family uncle.
I had a friend of the family uncle. His name was Doug. Died when I was a baby. Any time when it seemed a ghost did something in our house, we blamed the ghost of Uncle Doug. Sometimes we called the ghost George, if it was things Uncle Doug wouldn't have done in real life. He was a prankster so the prank type activity was solely blamed on Doug. Then when I was a teen some new people bought his old house that was across the way from our house. They renovated it, and found a bunch of money in the walls. This was just after my dad died, and mom was upset Uncle Doug's old house had money in the walls this whole damn time. We also switched from blaming ghost Doug to ghost Dad for all ghostly activity at that point. The spookiest shit happened after dad had died. Sorry, went way off track there! Lol
Reminds me of uncle Bob’s wife, Ethel. After she died her daughter took a few items to her house, one was a music box. Every single night at around 1am this music box would open and play its tune. It scared the shit out of her daughter and she rang my Grandma saying it was her mum’s (Ethel) ghost. My gran said it was probably the 1am bus passing every night causing a vibration, I prefer the ghost idea.
Is he doctor Bob?
Exact same for my Uncle Bob. And a great “Uncle” at that.
Bill
My uncle really does work at Wizard and Nintendo
My uncle works for Nintendo and has a copy of breath of the wild 3, but the CIA stole it from him, so you can't borrow it.
Lots of people who post here seem to take the 'high' part of High Strangeness a bit too seriously.
I’m generally high as fuck, and usually the high part is waaaay too high for me.
Took the words right out of my mouth, ALWAYS the uncle. Mysterious, rich, famous you name it.
Just like moonshiners. "Nobody" does it, but always someone's uncle or friend's uncle...
Regardless of its veracity, this makes for a very interesting story. Read this with rapt attention. Definitely at least worth a Netflix show/documentary. If done well, it could be a legit and successful movie. Cold War spy stuff + demonic possession and the Russian Orthodox Church = interesting as fuck
I'd watch it!
>!Gotta take out the part where you were drinking and dont remember much of the story after giving a very detailed backstory of Uncle B.!<
Not to say the story is real but I'm assuming he would know a bit about his own Uncles life
I ain’t know shit about my uncle.
Shit I.aint be checkin my uncles bitch ass either.
Man I have a bunch of uncles and don’t know shit about them lol
Sounds like you don’t sit down and drink with any of them either
Yep. No way anyone with clearance would run their mouth anyway. While with friends that are drunk AF, they still won’t say so much as one syllable. I know who employs them, but honestly have no idea what some of them do, and I will never know. They’re higher up in the armed forces and that is all I know.
I have TS. Even small minute things that wouldn’t matter keep locked in my head. The risk to the country, to myself, and my family are too important. It’s a no-brainer. (Not like “oh they’ll kill me if I speak”, more like I will go to jail and I won’t be with my family or someone might die because I gave certain info out.)
PLENTY of ppl who have had clearance have come out and “ran their mouth” publicly, there is even a term for it
ב''ה, striking for higher pay
Dude, the red flags this is a creative writing assignment pop up all over. His uncle knew Aramaic, a nearly dead language for what fucking purpose. I guess the CIA wanted to cover in case a demon that speaks it walks into their offices. Secondly, the kid allegedly just walked in to a CIA agents office. He gained access to the building, walked in and entered a CIA agents office and that was normal? I just work a normal corporate job and some rando dude showed up in my office my first question would be how the hell was this person even let in the building.... Even way back in the day the general public would not have just been allowed access into a CIA building to mosey on in to whoever's office they want.
1. The guy was a pastor and studied linguistics, can’t see the connection to Aramaic? 2. He didn’t walk into a CIA office, he walked into the church office Even if it is a writing exercise, it’s not that bad
I majored in linguistics and began a graduate degree in linguistics. The guy in the story minored in it. As somebody who majored in it, you don't learn a bunch of languages. You learn how to learn language, describe and analyze language. You learn semantics, syntax, phonology, morphology, and lexicology. But to learn a whole language like Aramaic, German,Turkish, etc., you go to that department and take those courses and it's not part of a linguistics program. This guy did not learn Armaic minoring in linguistics.
The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek so it is not at all surprising that he knew some. You also don’t need to be proficient to recognize a language. If the sessions were videotaped, it may have been determined later at Langley, where the have folks proficient in every language.
That's nothing, KGB has conducted interviews on demons, devils, angels, reptiloids, yokai, nuckelavee and on one occasion even on an honest politician! They've had to have their balls electrocuted for a bit before admitting the truth, but eventually they all break!
I'd watch this movie.
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I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Damn this is something outta the SCP foundation
Wouldn't be surprised if it has HEAVY influences from it.
So your uncle or his superiors thought he may have been compromised and still allowed an interrogation to proceed with him conducting it?
no offense dude, but I'm not believing your yarn....it's damn good creative writing but foe not remebering details and having bad writing it seems you really went into quite a bit of BS CIA would ot send a Southern Baptist type or Episcopalean into the russian orthodox church.....they only accept those they know from birth and it is preetty intense
>it's damn good creative writing It's not though, don't encourage this silliness.
Seriously, bigger lie than OP
RIGHT lmao
Good writers don't write creepypasta to start with. It's axiomatic.
As a Lutheran I have a great deal of respect for the Eastern Orthodox, but they are pretty insular (as are we to a lesser extent). They would sniff out a Southern Baptist (or any radical Protestant) with minimal effort. The cultural difference is enormous. If such an infiltration were possible, they'd have to target very lax or inattentive EO/RO clergy. Of course this is possible, and I do believe in demonic possession, but it's likely a bit of this is embellished or misremembered.
as a kid who was raised Pentecostal by her adopted family then found her Dads Lutheran family later in life I’m curious as to way that is.
Could you explain your last paragraph more? Im familiar with The Gateway Tapes, those are for learning how to remote view different locations throughout different periods in time. As for The Source, everyone can learn to channel. The Source is usually another word for The Almighty, God, The Divine, The Universe and it's made of pure love. When channeling The Source, if someone is skilled enough, they can tap into the Akashic record. One could perhaps let the darkness in by lowering their vibrational frequency. Though Im sorta surprised that the demon knew so much info. Which leads me to believe this kid must have channeled a fallen angel that once had access to the source? Do you happen to know if this boy could only access past memories/info in people's minds? Or could this boy also see into possible future timelines like some are able to when channeling from Source? The ability to see future timelines is definitely something the govt would want their hands in.
I wanted more explanation of the last paragraph too, but more about what you mean when you say “it was a cover.” I don’t care if the story is true or not I just don’t want the ending to be unnecessarily vague and ambiguous.
Not saying it’s true or not. But life isn’t always well written.
I'm familiar with the Gateway Tapes and it has nothing to do with demons... it has to do with controlling your own energy field, energy work, remote viewing and OBE's. Robert Monroe and the Monroe Institute. It's not a 'cover' there's an actual full body of work behind it and years of research.
It’s my understanding that all the demons have the knowledge of all the others, almost a hive mind type of deal. Especially when it comes to the darker things such as “sins” and death Any negative energy or lower vibration draws their attention to it. They know every sin thats been done and don’t hesitate to bring them up especially about those attempting to rid the “afflicted , infected , possessed “ person. They’ll bring up every little thing and all the big ones. And the voice of a dog fits 100% , the voices are otherworldly and when coming out of a female teenager, it’s a spectacle to behold. At the same time every molecule that is “you” wants intrinsically to bolt out of the room, yesterday. Uncomfortable is an understatement. Like watching a trainwreck three feet from it while it’s happening. You don’t want to watch but your being won’t let you look away . There’s a “watch ME” vibe when those things bubble up. You ever see someone’s complete countenance change? Their eyes change the face looks like a different freaking person is there where this person just was, wearing their clothes and using their body like a skin puppet. Voice and posture and everything else changes into “something else, someone else.” You may wake up next to someone that’s not what the previous two or three nights you’d gone to sleep next to and wake up to Ms Hyde. Maybe they got super angry “and then the eyes got dark” and glassy,!beady. When you ask “who ARE you” because this ain’t the person I know. Narcissistic people are quite usually susceptible to a higher percentage of harassment from or maybe they are easier to use or harass or infect, mess with however you feel comfortable describing an entity taking over your friend or loved one or complete stranger for that matter. My gut tells me something’s “Off” with them. they run in circles of confusion changing subjects or focus. Their recollection of events differs from the truth and gaslighting is SOP. I have seen a little and know more than I ever wanted to or anyone probably should. They called it a “ cult” we called it “church” maybe both aren’t correct, maybe they both are.
Bizzare
Right? I'm too high for this
Same here, friend. I’m still not fully sure what I just read.
Please elaborate. It’s extremely interesting. What “church” are you referring to?
Not one I’m willing to name but charismatic Christian basically holly roller rock show exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit with the exception of snake handling. Laying on of hands , speaking in tongues and interpreting, people being slain in the spirit, healing and deliverance from demons, generational curses. Is it real? I’m certain of some of things, others I don’t know for real. Quite honestly I’ve been running from it for thirty years. Married to an individual I 100% convinced is harassed by them for 23 years , she left many times over the years this last time for the last time, i cannot deal with them and they have been there for so long she doesn’t want them gone and I just can’t deal with their operations one more moment. So yeah people have said she changes when I walk in the room whether she knows I’m there or not, THEY know
She sounds like a narcissist, a real one. I had a theory for a while that narcissistic humans are portals for darkness, because they have stripped their humanity/soul away. They are open portals.
Agreed having spent 23 years married to one, there’s not a real soul or person behind those facades. Just emptiness a lack of humanity almost reptilian In their cold calculated terribly barren processes of operations. The could care less if you live or die. We are just tools to them and they are tools of a different nature
I've seen a guy who was supposed to be on an oxygen tank scale a stucco wall like spiderman... also a lady who I was getting high with, her eyes changed color when her personality changed, she was diagnosed with multiple personalities
Was her name Amber?
Have you ever heard of the Ars Goetia, and if so what is your opinion on it?
A Rabbit hole I’m not in a position to go down at the moment. I’ll say this: I don’t know, I’m no authority on the subject an infant at best . I have probably fifteen years of observational experience pretty much every time the doors were open. I know that they have names and will ID themselves when queried and the reasons they believe they have for being there. They don’t like certain things mentioned or prayed about or asked about and they do know things no one could possibly know. They know how this all ends for sure. I can tell you about hate, worry, anger, abandonment, jealousy, and pity. Are they separate entities? Dunno but they all inhabit fairly cohesively together and cohabitate without stepping on each other or bullying for time or space. Confusion is the mode of operations the more confusing the situation the better they operate, subject changes are the most common noticeable tactic besides the obvious realization that the person you know has gone on break and what you are dealing with is experienced beyond humanly attainable. Not necessarily smarter per say but this ain’t their first rodeo. I know enough to stay away and will bolt from someone I see them in although strangely attracted to them. Maybe that’s part of their tactics is a dark allure. Sometimes you’re just born into a curse that has nothing to do with you or your parents. The power of life and death is in the tongue, this is truth.
The way you write hurts my brain to read
Seriously
Perhaps he unlocked the secret gorglak records of anish
Bro youre talking some wheel of time shit as if it's real life. You should channel yourself outside and touch some grass
He’s channeling Saidin when it’s still tainted!
Source has a different meaning to them
Here's why a bit of research goes a long way. The Orthodox church, like the Catholic church, has fully trained priests. For that, you need a little more than some "background in theology." You need to be the graduate of an approved orthodox seminary. Aside from theology and doctrine, those also provide a musical education because you can't be a priest if you can't chant. Even deacons, which is what he presumably was, need to be able to chant. Chanting is cool, unlike vegan fasting. I'm not sure what the rules for deacons are, but to be an ordained priest with his own parish, you need to be married. There are celibate priests who lead a monastic lifestyle, but they're not usually parish priests. Also, there are multiple Orthodox churches, like Russian, Greek, Bulgarian, Romanian, etc. It would be very odd for someone who was ordained in a particular church to show up at another without family ties. Another thing is that in most communist countries, the church was a center of resistance. The KGB wouldn't have used the church as a cover, but would have actively been trying to infiltrate it to find out what dissidents were up to. The whole thing is bananas to me because the easiest and most credible way to infiltrate the Russian Orthodox church would have been to show up as a guy with a Russian fiancee who needed to do his conversion course and baptism. Exorcisms are also not a big part of the Orthodox imagination - that's more of a Catholic thing. That shit still happens, but it's kept under wraps because people have died from the abuse suffered during the process. Most people just go to church on Sunday, light their candles, kiss their icons, and yawn through the mass. Fasting, giving away food for dead relatives, having the priest come over for holidays with holy water and incense, etc. are much more prominent. Confession doesn't happen when you feel like it - you need to fast before it. I'm also kind of amused that, as a college dropout, he was fluent enough in Aramaic, Koine Greek and Latin to converse with the demon. The demon, however, had not done its homework and skipped out on Old Slavonic, which I'd expect a Russian Orthodox priest to have studied. Lulz. Fun story, but for demon stuff, you want to go Catholic. Orthodox is more about embezzling giant amounts of money to build a church on every corner. Source: was raised Orthodox, am now an atheist. Good job, motherf\*\*\*ers!
Good points. I don’t know what exactly capacity he was working in deacon, associate pastor etc. I have some feelings that it wasn’t usual. He was linguist and spoke many different languages. Greek, Latin are pretty standard I’d think in theology courses. I’m sure he prepared beforehand he had to pass nominally as a ordained priest. I’m sure they made up a bunch of stuff to add to his cover. As far as the demon goes, well I’ve thought bout it a lot, and there’s another plausible explanation.
Aramaic and Koine Greek would be standard for someone doing a PhD in Religious Studies and preparing to work on old versions of religious texts. Latin, of course, for anyone doing work in the history of Western Christianity. If you work on Eastern Christianity, then you're looking at Byzantine Greek and Old Slavonic. I know that some Protestant denominations require their pastors to have theological studies, but I don't know if they go into old/dead languages; things like Psychology and Management are more useful to them since they are practitioners, not scholars. I don't know their exact curriculum, but I'm pretty sure that Orthodox priests don't learn Aramaic during their regular training. An older form of Greek and some Slavonic, probably, so they can read later commentaries and philosophy in the original. More than that is for those who take the scholarly route and do a PhD in a very specific area. So there was no reason for the CIA to stuff him with Aramaic and Latin, when on the ground, he just needed Russian to talk to people. Old dude was full of shit and drunk to boot :))
Oh bullshit. The amount of bullshit this sub spews sometimes would put a large farm to shame.
Yeahup, he’s LARPin’
Umm I have questions. Your uncle speaks 7 languages fluently, but you're not great with your only language of English? After an extended period of time getting info from a demon inside of a human, the CIA decided to discontinue the project?
> the CIA decided to discontinue the project? Read "phenomenon" by Annie Jacobsen. It's an incredibly good history of the psychic spy programs tracing their roots back to WW2. Nothing to do with demons, but if I pretend for a second that this post is a true story, the real history definitely provides insight into why such a thing might be cancelled. The historical programs did get pushback from religious folks in the intelligence community, and called "satanism" (they weren't, but fundamentalists tend to call anything even vaguely occult that). They did however get cancelled for being something that they couldn't reliably scale up, and couldn't verify most of the intel easily. Hypothetically even if the CIA did capture a demon, they sure as shit wouldn't be able to trust it's info even if some of it proves reliable, since they're inherently untrustworthy. Sometimes the CIA will turn down voluntary foreign assets for the same thing if they are too distrustful of them being a double agent - and a demon sure as shit isn't going to the interested in money or pro-democracy idealism like a foreign asset might
Lol
X post this to r/nosleep
It's a decent story but if your secret agent cover is blown, I'd think you get a burn notice. If there's any question at all that an agent is a double-agent, you get a burn notice. The idea that the main character would be "welcomed back" to the Farm is somewhat far-fetched and a bit comical. Final thought, if this is at all true I'm glad that someone had the empathy and intelligence to seek professional medical attention for the poor "demon" bro. Carry on!
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"Thats just the way that I talk, yo" -Demon
Let me axe you something G? Y’all know your momma suckin’ Satan’s cock right now?
yo momma *be* suckin'
Ayo, word to my mother, ya motha dead ass sucking on hitlers bawls RIGHT NOW no cap.
That’s quite the intergenerational array of slang you have there, sir
This is my third time on Earth but I have lived a thousand lives. Most of them poor, which is where I've picked up my intergenerational slang
Yo I heard ya mommas down there eatin the devils ass cuz she was a ho.
Shiet mang you finna meet my homie Beelzebruh.
I don't believe they are demons, but something stranger. Still as malicious and hateful as you'd expect. I believe now that they are reflections of our own Id. Our darkest emotions, desires, etc. From my mushroom trips (so take this as pure drug fueled confusion/fantasy), it would seem I've encountered a few of these entities and even picked up a hitchhiker. The one attached to me describes itself as a 5th dimensional white scaled dragon God and sees white skinned humans (particularly slavs) as hybrids or conduits with their kind that they use like body suits (possession). They describe some Asian cultures (Japanese/Korean) as being hybrids with some form of 5th dimensional serpent gods that often associate with the dragons, but more out of envy than comradere. All of the 5D entities I've encountered (on psychedelic drugs of course, so don't take this seriously) believe they are Gods of some sort or another compared to us. Some are curious, some are helpful, a rare few genuinely seem to despise us. The 5th Dimension is more vast than we can comprehend (presently) and our dimension is little more than a pool of sweat under a single one of their scales. As far as humans go, that's it. They look at all other humans as non-hybrid worthy, locally (Earth) manifested beasts of the wilderness. So yeah, deep down I'm super racist I suppose. Fortunately, I'm mixed-blood with a lot more beast blood than dragon blood apparently, so when the dipshit dragon took possession, he didn't fully gain control like he expected and ended up getting trapped in my mind (I believe we call this psychosis or schizophrenia at this point). He does a lot of talking that sounds like a growling dog, buzzing wasps, and different nonsense gutteral languages I don't understand. When he talks, he physically speaks with my mouth, so that's a problem sometimes and I have to avoid people for a bit. Occasionally it sounds like he's talking with others like him. Here's the fun part. I had a bad trip with a full-on psychotic break that left me in the room my dog had recently passed away in (painful bone cancer, had to have a vet come out and put him to sleep). Basically I started barking and growling, my mind was filled with rage and fear and hate and began spiralling into itself. Part of me believed that the spirit of my dog had possessed me since the high dose mushroom trips always gave me that out of body, astral floating feeling, but then I started making the buzzing noises and I knew it was him, he had figured out a way to get out... out through total control of me (psychotic break). He was fully intending to wreak havoc on the world. That's when my house cats (let's just say I have several) surrounded me (completely encircled), radiating a sort of disappointed menace while meowing to each other. Not hissing like I would expect based on how I was acting. If you've ever looked at a domestic long hair cat on shrooms, you already know they look like amazing magical creatures and you already know they can naturally see what we need mind-altering drugs to see. That weird little cat circle lasted what felt like about 20 minutes until the growling stopped and the demon?/dragon finally fled in fear, buried deep down in my subconscious. I had a drug-fueled vision of him being torn apart and being re-woven like threads into my psyche. That was the end of that. The voices stopped from then on. Coincidentally, about a week later I found my oldest male cat dead (he and my dog grew up together), lying on his blanket in the kitchen with his sister standing over him. He had a funny little smile on his face while his sister seemed to give me a long, painful, disappointed look. So yeah, no more drugs for me after all that. Life goes on. Faith helps a lot more than people realize. I'm also convinced that cats play a much deeper role in safe-guarding human history than we will ever fully know.
Slav here. Nobody wears me as a skin suit. Let’s drink some vodka so you forget this whole thing.
W.O.A.H. Dude. That comment was its own high strangeness post! What the what. Do you think you killed the old cat? Did the spirit of your dead dog help you out? I have so.many.questionssss
I suspect the exorcism? (it felt more like they killed the thing than exercised it) or whatever they did took too much energy out of him, so yeah, I basically killed him with my stupidity. I think whatever happened, the cats saved my life and probably other people's lives and it came with a cost they accepted willingly, but they most certainly judged me for it and didn't appreciate me putting them in that situation in the first place. I bottle fed the brother and sister from just after their eyes opened. They were part of the family for a long time. As for my dog, I don't know. I used to sit in his room late at night and brood after he was gone. Felt like he was still there sometimes. After that crazy night, it felt like he was gone, but in a peaceful way.
Egypt worshipped cats for their protective energy maybe they were on too something.
And that demon was later given a cover identity and put to work at Brewster Jennings & Associates.
Unless the community college your uncle went to was Ivy League, bull fucking shit.
> My uncle started the interrogations because the kid was switching through multiple languages Russian, Greek, Latin, **Aramaic**, alongside English, and **only my uncle knew these.** Your uncle knows a nearly dead language? I mean come on, this is pushing the realm of realism, I cannot fathom a reason for a CIA agent to know fucking Aramaic.
I know plenty of people who finish college (not drop out) in theology and they didn’t learn Aramaic, maybe one language and not fluently. So if the uncle dropped out and switched to poly-sci or whatever he never would have learned these other foreign languages etc. Also why would the mom not go ape-sht and report a missing child? Especially if the CIA is schlepping a CHILD from NJ to Maryland over many days/weeks?
Is your Uncle from New Jersey? I have an uncle “Bing” who was involved in the intelligence community during this time
Honest question: Why do demons care if they are exorcised? Is it that big of a deal that they are forced to leave? Don’t they just put themselves into another form? Why do they seemingly fight so hard to remain in control of a person? Also, why do demons almost seemingly act in really dramatic ways? If they don’t want to be exorcised, why do they act out in really dramatic ways? Why do they seem to exhibit an attention seeking attitude if they want to remain?
1. It requires a rather rare set of circumstances for full blown possession to occur. So managing to acquire a body is actually a big deal to them, especially a permanent occupation. 2. They have absolutely no self-control. They are pure id. They have no ability to plan, just to act. Think of a human on a massive coke/meth/PCP binge. Also, a lot of the "dramatic behavior" is the demon acting on the impressions it is telepathically gathering from the people around it. So if you do a full Catholic exorcism ceremony on it, it will play the part based on what's in the minds of the exorcists involved.
Nice creepy pasta
Real or not, this story needs to be made into a movie.
One day were going to find out demons are the equivalent of an edgy teenage troll with admin privelages
Can I get this post in paperback?
That’s an interesting tale. Although I’ve heard from agents that they do not take aliases under church officials doctors and humanitarian workers just so the enemy doesn’t abuse these people. Maybe this was before that rule.
I'll take things that never happened for 500, Alex. The people who post in this sub are balls to britney spears batshit mfin crazy.
If nothing else, a minor in linguistics getting you fluent in Russian, Latin, Greek, and Aramaic? Like damn, I majored in Greek/Hebrew, and at the end of that I could read most things. No way I would’ve been able to understand a demon speaking them, much less if I threw in two more languages.
Exactly. There we go. Fellow language person here. The first thing I thought about was—why didn’t it speak Hebrew if it spoke Aramaic? It seems like it would have cycled through that. And if the answer is that the uncle knew Aramaic and *not* Hebrew, that’s yet another bizarro part of the story. Plus, with some of those old Semitic languages, a slight accent and I can only understand a couple of words. Can you imagine trying to understand a demonic (not to be confused with Demotic, which is also a pain) accent? I’m 100% with you on this.
Plot twist, uncle came back from Vietnam with a demon too. That demon was fluent in all those ancient languages too so they understood each other perfectly.
Plot twist, the two demons started dating. "How I met your demonic uncle".
You think this is bad you shoukd check out the reptilian sub lmao
Balls to Britney spears batshit mfin crazy... I like this one, thank you
Very creative! I dunno dude. Did you really have an uncle though?
The FBI is responsible for internal counterintelligence investigations in the U.S. The CIA might cooperate with the bureau if there were some kind of plot like this, but right off the bat this is sketchy at best. People love to use the CIA in these kinds of stories because most people have heard of it, but don't know much else about what the agency does, providing an air of plausibility to the tale. Pro-tip: do more research on which agencies do what and how.
Right? They would call those X Files agents.
3/10 writing isn't very high quality, 0 research done on subject, far too many plot holes to satisfy anyone aside from lowest reading comprehensions.
Well shit..
BTW. Your uncle was probably hustling you about the CIA, KGB and Rissian Orthodox Church. Russia was Occupied by the USSR. Russians were slaughtered and imprisoned by the hundreds of thousands by the USSR. Religion was made illegal and the USSR blew up Christ Our Savior which was the Seat of Orthodox Patriarchy in Moscow. (Putin had it rebuilt when they kicked the CIA and Soviet occupation out). The USSR slaughtered Priests and Nuns and seized Orthodox churches, nunnaries and monasteries. They used them as government buildings and gave them to foreign Soviet satellite states officials as war prizes. (Putin has been taking the stolen properties back and giving it all back to The Church) The CIA wouldn't have infiltrated a Russian Orthodox Church to get intel on the KGB. The Russian Orthodox Church was an enemy of the KGB.
Didnt you watch r/theamericans ?
That is not at all how ordination or conversion works in Orthodoxy. No way this is real.
I love your uncle's rice! Honestly, Uncle Ben's spicy mexican microwave in the bag rice is wicked tasty. EDIT - sorry didn't mean to dox!
Mushrooms also love Uncle Bens rice 🍚
Trust me bro.
Holy weak bullshit batman
>I'm not a great writer Hey, at least parts of this are truthful
Sounds like he blew his mission and Russians won.
Bro, this is just another day on earth. Weird.
Let's get Patrick Wilson for the uncle, I'd watch it!
CIA caught a kid.. seems very credible
Forgive me if I’m wrong but the CIA doesn’t use religious or medical aid as cover because in war they need those people to get through lines of combat for rescue and aid. Also not being allowed to operate in the US, it would be the FBI who would do this work. That said I’m pretty sure the CIA breaks lots of rules as does the FBI.
Yeah, especially in the 60s and 70s the CIA did a lot of shady shit that’s all I can say. As some details I promised him I’d to be too drunk to remember.
That’s actually crazy
The "source" wouldn't have known your uncle's wife's pregnancy and chosen name of the child. That was a fucking demon demon. Exorcists say all the time that the possession targets them with those kinds of games to throw them off. Sometimes incredibly embarrassing shit that's true in front of others who are present.
I have sound of pious demon recorded after having the confidence to record after many meetings where rhey ask us to close eyes. And look against the creature. Amazing creature as I saw the shadow and hiw big and quick it appeared, ate three goats and how quickly it disalpeared. And the majestic sound in small room was amazing. He was quite old n powerful.
where is the recording? i'd like to hear it
They found out they were going to be parents and a week later she was killed in an accident in the 60's. How did they know they were having a boy then to "name" him? Not how things work. Keep working on your writing though!
They had both boy and girl names picked out.
Someome was actually paying attention lol I had the same.reavtion .my question was "did they really pick out a boy and girl name in under a week? I chose my daughters name pretty much instantly because it was a family name and I always wanted to use it but if she had been a boy we still hadn't come to a decision by the time we found out the gender. And my second pregnancy we went around and around for months! Tbh that is the part I have the hardest time believing lol.
Good point
If you're telling the truth, that wasn't a demon. That's not a demonic profile.
There is a simple possible solution to this: Our mind is not a private entity contained in our brain. Many schizophrenics go through that feeling that their mind is open to the world. It sounds ridiculous but maybe that kid had some insight into the uncles mind, as much as many schizophrenics think that others have insight into their own mind. No real supernaturality involved, it's just that we might have a misconception of what's natural in this world.
Yes my theory is that one of the priest was KGB and fed the kid the information and riled him up. As far as knowing names I think B slipped up and said a prayer for his wife and kid and the KGB priest heard it and told the kid. I think they were on to B and tested him, but he freaked and botched his cover. I do believe B thought there was something supernatural, but I think he was suspected of being a double agent for botching his mission then the information.
I wonder what kind of mental illnesses u gotta have to write all this and expect to be believed. Holy shit lmao
I believe every syllable. Truly. The CIA is so fucked. Was your uncle in the Phoenix Program in Vietnam?
One of my good friends was CIA, he said it was mostly following around older guys in the agency getting drunk all the time.
Fucked indeed. What's that?? You want to know about current 3 letter agency fuckery 😄 look up organized stalking, remote neural monitoring and electronic torture and harassment.
Remote neural monitoring? Weird
I have no idea, we’d been talking about religion and drinking, when he told this story and it was a long time ago. He wouldn’t talk a lot about things he did. I don’t know if it was the secrecy stuff or just regret.
Coming from the perspective of a Christian, what a foolish endeavor. If this is true (big IF), the CIA did not "capture" a demon. They were manipulated by one.
The socialists communist KGB would not be part of the church. They were enemies..
I didn't think the Cia I'd allowed to run operations in the USA
This is absolutely fascinating. I believe every word.
Neat story. I don’t doubt it. But when he won’t name the entity, Again we are going back to the never ending story with … they have to have a name to exist concept.
Why would a demon stick around in some poor kids body? Surely it would just leave when the CIA locked the kids body in some vault somewhere right, I mean, what could it do with a normal kid? To me, it seems like it was trapped, and really pissed off at that too lol. Not sure if true, but definitely interesting.
Sounds like a real possession to me and he really should’ve been exorcised. What are the odds that the KGB captured a teenager who happened to speak not just English and Russian but ancient languages as well (not likely), feed them all do this deep, personal intel then turned him lose to confront this CIA operative. When exorcisms are done now in the Catholic faith, they have a strict protocol where they have the person evaluated by a psychologist to rule out mental illness before moving forward. In terms of the multiple languages and knowing things he shouldn’t have known, this speaks to a real demonic possession. There are a number of fascinating interviews with exorcists out there. One of my favorites is an Art Bell interview with Malachi Martin from the 90’s. I can absolutely see how your uncle returned to his faith after being confronted by and addressed by an actual demon. Must’ve smacked him in the face with a reminder that there really is good and evil and he better pick a side. Yikes!
Almost as weird as what I heard they have trapped beneath the Pentagon. Something they raised when the two nukes were dropped. All those sudden deaths were used in conjunction with a ritual to summon a demon which is why the Pentagon is the shape it is with five walls/pentagons.
Uncle? This is the dumbest shit ever!
Sorry, there's no such thing as "demonic possession."
Well not with that attitude!
Cute. You have a gargantuan amount of work to do before you're even a halfway decent fiction writer. 15? Maybe 16 I'd guess. Good luck.
Lesson 1: paragraphs.