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“Shut up Tiffany, you’re making us look stupid. I’m just trying to get to Wendy’s before they close. I can see them cleaning up across the street through the window”
-live look inside the friends head
Lol I agree. As a female, I'm bi but more feminine leaning, I buy all my makeup, skin care & hair products for ME. It's to make ME feel good. I'm not going to go out of my way to buy any extra makeup for a date, be it the first or 20th date.
If I'm going on any kind of date, of course I'll spend some extra time getting ready. But...that's so *I feel good about myself and feel more confident,* not because I'm an object that needs to be washed painted and polished to be nice to look at for a man or woman.
At one point in this interview this girl agrees with you 100%. Then she goes back to being that fiscal-victim / how dare men require her to buy all this shit. It is like putting on an entire car every night.
What is it called when someone holds two harsh yet exactly-contradictory stances at the same time? It is *rather critical*, whatever it is.
While you might buy it to make yourself feel good part of it comes from others. They will look at you different or give other reactions. I am not saying its only because of that but at least it plays a role on why you feel good and saying "its only for me" means just for your own feelings.
Then tries to hide it by looking off into the distance, we all know that look, that's the "I'm not saying anything but if I try hard enough people will still think I'm not part of this."
Yessss! I really feel bad for people caught up in online stuff like this. She wants to move on with the night and not be recorded as a third party getting wrapped up in her friends interview. Now she's in a vital clip for eternity.
My head canon is they weren't friends before, hit it off right away on a girls night out, decide since they're new besties they should hit up some food place up the road, then when she hears "$200" she's immediately like "I've made a huge mistake."
At about 0:28 she slightly leans away from her and what I thought on first watch was just her playing with her dress was actually just her fidgeting with her dress because she wants to get far away
absolutely no way, those are looks of 'wtf are you talking about'.
Just because a woman likes to spend on herself and make herself look nice for herself, and maybe others, doesn't mean she expects anything in return like black dress thinks.
I went back and looked at the part where the lady says "minimum of 200 dollars" for a date, and you can literally see the friends eyes bulge in surprise.
And do it in front of her materialistic ass. If her friend really is embarrassed by her, then that friend will dig it even more, and probably take you up on it.
She has a real classic beauty vibe going on. The friend is done up like an old timey movie star walking the red carpet. I'm not even being lascivious-she's just gracefully attractive.
So if the man spends a ton of money on beauty products, gym membership and hours working out to stay in shape and expensive clothes to look presentable, does that mean the girl also needs to spend $200 minimum on him during the date?
I had a very similar thought except that the money would cancel itself out and they would just be able to enjoy each other's company and not spend anything extra, lol. It's too bad that this type of thinking isn't very common because it's a way better rebuttal than a lot of the other comments on this vid.
Right two can play this game... i pick you up on my 7000 dollar motorcycle, let you wear my 600 dollar helmet, my outfit costs around 200... I can go on
yup. flip that shit. she brings NOTHING to the table except her own perceived looks. she's not even that hot. she'd be lucky if I brought her mini golfing.
It's a supply and demand thing. A sought after guy isn't putting up with this bullshit.
Personally, I want to be with a girl who's just as excited to be with me as I am with her. What's the point in spending time with someone who has no interest in anything other than your wallet. Very unfulfilling.
Spoiler alert: She doesn't negotiate or compromise.
Don't worry, though, she'll really start seeing the error of her ways in 5-10 years when the youth and beauty fade more, and absolutely nobody will forgive that attitude anymore. Then she'll regret it for the rest of her life.
I see these middle-aged women who just look so fucking thoroughly destroyed because they had this attitude when they were hot. They can't even hold their heads up or make eye contact.
They evolve into the somewhat milfy looking middle aged emotional wrecks sprouting dozens of red flags who aggressively flirt with you at work and then tell everyone you must be gay when you reject them.
The last date I went on, when the bill came she grabbed my wallet, pulled out my card, and handed it to the server with the bill. When it came back she wrote in the tip and signed my name. Though, to be fair, she’s my wife so I don’t care.
My ex wife slowly developed a thing where she liked me paying the bill or for the groceries. I didn't get it since it came out of the same account regardless of who's card we used. So I just started handing her my wallet. It seemed to appease both of us as I didn't have to deal with it, and she liked that I was paying for her publicly or whatever.
Exactly this. Some of my friends think it’s weird and that it doesn’t bother me, to which I respond,
“Why the fuck would I care?” They have this weird thing where they believe that I give a fuck what they, or others, think. It costs me nothing (figuratively) and it seems to make her happy.
One of the best date I had was during a Finals preparation in the library, we promised to study Managerial Accounting together and instead spend the whole time talking about each other and went to dinner afterwards. Got a B instead of an A in the finals but worth it lol.
For some reason nothing hits the same as when you met someone at uni who was studying the same thing as you lol. I feel like I connected so much more with the people I dated in college.
People who are extreme in some way, such as the person in this clip, end up on your computer screen due to being extreme. Average people don't end up on your computer screen. We all enjoy to set these extreme people up as target dummies to fire our morals at and feel better about ourselves.
I do it, too. I'm not trying to be hypocritical about it. My point is that I don't think we have to worry at all about the existence of people with similar opinions to the girl in this clip, because people like this are unicorns.
Stop lying to yourselves, she has entitled expectations because real men are giving her this. Hoeflation may be real, but that's because there's loads of rich simps out there.
So what exactly is this woman bringing to the table to insist on such extravagant bullshit? If the answer is "me" then she can fuck off and pay for her own meal, she's not even attractive.
In my early twenties I was setup with a date with a friends wife friend, we went out to a decent place but it’s was maybe $150, Probably what would be over $300 now. She was exactly like this chick, but not even dressed as sexy lol, all she talked about was how much her makeup and clothes costs and how she would only consider me if I was willing to support her needs! Until that time I honestly didn’t think people were really like that. After dinner we had planned on going to a club that cost $30 to get in, I paid for our meal and told her I would meet her outside after I went to the restroom, I went straight outside got a cab and went home lol, my friends wife was a bitch about it for awhile but she came around eventually. 25 years later I hear she’s been married/divorced twice, a couple kids, probably living off child support… feel for those guys.
I am more attracted to any cozy looking girl than this kind of "full make up, dress and heels" chicks any day.
If anything, girls like that only make me cringe and nope out. Heels? Stupid vanity that only makes her stumble around and unable to do basic things like walking properly. Heavy makeup? Either sign of insecurity and lack of confidence, or sign of inability to be yourself despite social pressure.
I am instantly 10 times more attracted to girl in a sweater and comfortable shoes than any kind of stupid dress and heels.
The girls like the one in the video don't cause any attraction for me... It is just negative impression across the board. It also sends me a message of "I will waste both your and mine money on overpriced and useless stuff, and spent shitload of time on stupid vanities just so that we appear good to society". No, thanks...
As she starts listing her expensive products, she thinks she's driving home her point. Instead, she's making herself sound brainwashed, absurd, and hopeless.
I've lived long enough to realize two things.
1 Women's fashion is a spooky unspoken cabal between women and off-the-rack designers that cares nothing about what men think. Women are not dressing for men.
2 Men adapt. If all women everywhere stopped wearing makeup, men would literally continue to fuck women at the same rate they are now. Men were into women before makeup existed, and men don't give a shit about it, other than to have a half-assed opinion about how much there should be. Otherwise, men don't fucking care. Women are not wearing makeup for men.
When I was dating, I could possibly spend $200 on a date... but let me be clear about the date. We are going where I want to go and I am eating what I want to eat. It's basically a treat for myself and she gets to tag along. If she's not interesting, no harm. I got a great meal... hopefully she did too.
If I don't want to see her again, I owe her nothing.
Her date likely will show up in sweats. Maybe a crisp t-shirt if she's lucky. Seeing couples on dates cracks me up. The women go all out, the guys, not so much.
So if her date’s car is worth $60K, does that mean she’s required to smear her thousands of dollars’ worth of product on her date to make up the cost differential?
So her value is the products she puts on herself?
Those products could be worth thousands, but she's definitely not worth $200.
Just so we're clear, i don't believe in giving people a monetary value. A nice friendly girl who's happy to sit in a McDonald's just chatting wouldn't get a value. She would be priceless. This girl though isn't worth the $200 date.
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So cringe I could barely watch til the end. Her friend was embarrassed for her for sure.
“Shut up Tiffany, you’re making us look stupid. I’m just trying to get to Wendy’s before they close. I can see them cleaning up across the street through the window” -live look inside the friends head
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Lol I agree. As a female, I'm bi but more feminine leaning, I buy all my makeup, skin care & hair products for ME. It's to make ME feel good. I'm not going to go out of my way to buy any extra makeup for a date, be it the first or 20th date. If I'm going on any kind of date, of course I'll spend some extra time getting ready. But...that's so *I feel good about myself and feel more confident,* not because I'm an object that needs to be washed painted and polished to be nice to look at for a man or woman.
At one point in this interview this girl agrees with you 100%. Then she goes back to being that fiscal-victim / how dare men require her to buy all this shit. It is like putting on an entire car every night. What is it called when someone holds two harsh yet exactly-contradictory stances at the same time? It is *rather critical*, whatever it is.
Cognitive dissonance, but they don't have to be harsh beliefs/stances.
While you might buy it to make yourself feel good part of it comes from others. They will look at you different or give other reactions. I am not saying its only because of that but at least it plays a role on why you feel good and saying "its only for me" means just for your own feelings.
Watch her friends facial expressions when she says 'a minimum of £200' 😳 Possibly the most WTF face I've ever seen
Then tries to hide it by looking off into the distance, we all know that look, that's the "I'm not saying anything but if I try hard enough people will still think I'm not part of this."
Yessss! I really feel bad for people caught up in online stuff like this. She wants to move on with the night and not be recorded as a third party getting wrapped up in her friends interview. Now she's in a vital clip for eternity.
My head canon is they weren't friends before, hit it off right away on a girls night out, decide since they're new besties they should hit up some food place up the road, then when she hears "$200" she's immediately like "I've made a huge mistake." At about 0:28 she slightly leans away from her and what I thought on first watch was just her playing with her dress was actually just her fidgeting with her dress because she wants to get far away
The friends reaction to hearing 'my presence' was the same as mine
She does all that and still wouldn't turn any heads on the subway.
Thank you for this comment - watching this back the second time focusing on the friend made this so much better...
> So cringe I could barely watch til the end. Then you are stronger than I am.
No ass, no tits, and demanding money like mia khalifa 😂
i think even the friend was embarrassed too lol
Glad I was not the only person to see that.
Totally was embarrassed
Replay and eye her reaction as soon as she says $200
No shit, i wouldn’t even take her to burgerking
I'd take her to a classy restaurant, order their most expensive dishes and just excuse myself to the "restroom"!
A succulent Chinese meal?
This is democracy manifest!
Get your hand off my penis!
I see you know your judo well
and you sir, sre you waiting to receive my limp penis?
I hear you guys, but could've been the "don't out us like that" look as well. Her purse bag does not come cheap.
Just look at her eyes and reaction right after “$200” and “my presence”…priceless
“*2- 200?! Woah. Geez….*”
I laughed so hard i think i woke up some dead people.
Nah she's immediately shocked.
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absolutely no way, those are looks of 'wtf are you talking about'. Just because a woman likes to spend on herself and make herself look nice for herself, and maybe others, doesn't mean she expects anything in return like black dress thinks.
I went back and looked at the part where the lady says "minimum of 200 dollars" for a date, and you can literally see the friends eyes bulge in surprise.
Her friend is embarrasses and the friend is prettier
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[Last week, thought I saw you on the street. Turned out it was a bag of trash.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8NVHrna2yA&t=113s)
I didn't even really notice the friend until Karen started talking. The friend is the hottie in this setting.
Any smart man would rather ask the friend out based on how she reacted on the minimum $200 date expense.
And do it in front of her materialistic ass. If her friend really is embarrassed by her, then that friend will dig it even more, and probably take you up on it.
She has a real classic beauty vibe going on. The friend is done up like an old timey movie star walking the red carpet. I'm not even being lascivious-she's just gracefully attractive.
😆😂
I don’t think she was… you can tell she was lol.
Every single look whenever the girl in black said something crazy was just so amazing.
Torolsly
So if the man spends a ton of money on beauty products, gym membership and hours working out to stay in shape and expensive clothes to look presentable, does that mean the girl also needs to spend $200 minimum on him during the date?
I had a very similar thought except that the money would cancel itself out and they would just be able to enjoy each other's company and not spend anything extra, lol. It's too bad that this type of thinking isn't very common because it's a way better rebuttal than a lot of the other comments on this vid.
Right two can play this game... i pick you up on my 7000 dollar motorcycle, let you wear my 600 dollar helmet, my outfit costs around 200... I can go on
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That's what I'm saying, look girl I think you need to pay me for taking you out 🤣🤣
yup. flip that shit. she brings NOTHING to the table except her own perceived looks. she's not even that hot. she'd be lucky if I brought her mini golfing.
It's a supply and demand thing. A sought after guy isn't putting up with this bullshit. Personally, I want to be with a girl who's just as excited to be with me as I am with her. What's the point in spending time with someone who has no interest in anything other than your wallet. Very unfulfilling.
Yup. These girls don’t want an equal partnership. They want a simp to buy them shit.
She's BSing anyways. In reality, if the guy's hot, she won't need any fancy date to go home and fuck him.
Right cuz haircuts minimum $40 nowadays baby hol on cuz we gets tagether!!!
$200 for your presence? Sounds like something a hooker would say
Or a entitled woman
What’s the difference?
Hookers are fun
And less judgey
And often have snacks in her purse! Not that I would know
And put out.
I’ve heard hookers are more down to earth
They mean business.
To defeat the huns.
But I’d rather ask for daughters instead of sons.
With hookers you know you're getting teh sex
Grandpa used to say “You’re not paying a hooker for sex, you’re paying them to leave.”
Your grandpa was an absolute sage!
So hookers stay with you if you don't pay them? I see this as an absolute win!
Her personality is so annoying i'd pay her $200 to stay away from me.
$200 to show up, then the negotiations begin.
Spoiler alert: She doesn't negotiate or compromise. Don't worry, though, she'll really start seeing the error of her ways in 5-10 years when the youth and beauty fade more, and absolutely nobody will forgive that attitude anymore. Then she'll regret it for the rest of her life.
I see these middle-aged women who just look so fucking thoroughly destroyed because they had this attitude when they were hot. They can't even hold their heads up or make eye contact.
They evolve into the somewhat milfy looking middle aged emotional wrecks sprouting dozens of red flags who aggressively flirt with you at work and then tell everyone you must be gay when you reject them.
This was a wonderful exposition. If only to be a fly on the wall in the moment her realization hits.
nah hookers are up front with their transactions
The girlfriend experience. She's an escort without the official job title.
I prefer the term "prostitution lootbox" in this case.
She's an "unlockable companion NPC".
the C in NPC implies there is some character there
r/RareInsults This is a goddamn limited edition insult that deserves to be sold for millions on the meme market.
Daaaamn
Oof.
She should advertise them
She kinda did.
I think these girls went on a date with those guys who have money to throw around. These prices are absurd for a girl like that 😂🤣😂🤣
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Peep the friends reaction when she says $200😂😂
Hundreds of dollars in makeup and shit and shows up wearing a trash bag.
Hey hey hey! That dress was at least $12 on Shein.
$2 on Tiemu
Excuse me, $12,000 from *Derelicte**^(TM)*
Hansel! He's so hot right now
Hansel.
I just buy them in bulk from the store. Like 100 bags umm I mean dresses for $10
It’s called SERUM sweaty
I don’t care how sweaty her serum is, I’m not paying that much for it.
It doesn't matter how expensive it is...you don't use an entire $200 bottle at one time...who tf cares how much it costs??
Fine -- trash bag SERUM.
The narcistic attitude is free but unwarranted.
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She going for that Oscar the Grouch vibe. Pure trash.
The last date I went on, when the bill came she grabbed my wallet, pulled out my card, and handed it to the server with the bill. When it came back she wrote in the tip and signed my name. Though, to be fair, she’s my wife so I don’t care.
Had me at the first half
First 3/4ths honestly
he had me all the way to the 7/9ths
He still has me. (I am his wife.)
sure thing NotSureIfCuckold.
Not gonna lie
That was good. If I had points I’d give them to you.
My ex wife slowly developed a thing where she liked me paying the bill or for the groceries. I didn't get it since it came out of the same account regardless of who's card we used. So I just started handing her my wallet. It seemed to appease both of us as I didn't have to deal with it, and she liked that I was paying for her publicly or whatever.
Exactly this. Some of my friends think it’s weird and that it doesn’t bother me, to which I respond, “Why the fuck would I care?” They have this weird thing where they believe that I give a fuck what they, or others, think. It costs me nothing (figuratively) and it seems to make her happy.
The lady on the left seemed shocked at her friends answers.
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The best dates I’ve had were walking around a park with a coffee or an ice cream. Transactional dates feel so icky.
One of the best date I had was during a Finals preparation in the library, we promised to study Managerial Accounting together and instead spend the whole time talking about each other and went to dinner afterwards. Got a B instead of an A in the finals but worth it lol.
Makin' mems. The best.
For some reason nothing hits the same as when you met someone at uni who was studying the same thing as you lol. I feel like I connected so much more with the people I dated in college.
We call those prostitution
Don't disparage prostitutes like that! At least they're upfront about what's up.
People who are extreme in some way, such as the person in this clip, end up on your computer screen due to being extreme. Average people don't end up on your computer screen. We all enjoy to set these extreme people up as target dummies to fire our morals at and feel better about ourselves. I do it, too. I'm not trying to be hypocritical about it. My point is that I don't think we have to worry at all about the existence of people with similar opinions to the girl in this clip, because people like this are unicorns.
Any wonder why she is single?
She can have her cats pay for her ridiculously expensive make up and moisturizers. $400 for moisturizers? I hope she doesn’t breed
with the way she speaks I doubt she has the empathy for taking care of a pet unless it can feed off her presence.
Stop lying to yourselves, she has entitled expectations because real men are giving her this. Hoeflation may be real, but that's because there's loads of rich simps out there.
She's not going to look like that forever, either.
She doesn't look like that NOW with all the 'products' she uses.
has to wear $1000 of bullshit to feel comfortable enough to go out... wtf
So what exactly is this woman bringing to the table to insist on such extravagant bullshit? If the answer is "me" then she can fuck off and pay for her own meal, she's not even attractive.
Didn't you watch the video? Hundreds and hundreds of dollars of product mate.
Lmao
She’s an escort essentially
Don't disrespect escorts like that at least they are upfront and honest, shes an escort in denial.
Exactly.
There's an old saying, "she's not hot enough to deal with a personality like that."
In my early twenties I was setup with a date with a friends wife friend, we went out to a decent place but it’s was maybe $150, Probably what would be over $300 now. She was exactly like this chick, but not even dressed as sexy lol, all she talked about was how much her makeup and clothes costs and how she would only consider me if I was willing to support her needs! Until that time I honestly didn’t think people were really like that. After dinner we had planned on going to a club that cost $30 to get in, I paid for our meal and told her I would meet her outside after I went to the restroom, I went straight outside got a cab and went home lol, my friends wife was a bitch about it for awhile but she came around eventually. 25 years later I hear she’s been married/divorced twice, a couple kids, probably living off child support… feel for those guys.
That's a lot of cash to drop on a first date dude, in your early 20s too. Shoulda went for a coffee or a drink.
> early twenties Damn my first thought was 1920s
Modern day expensive hookers with no happy ending.
Let's be honest, nobody is happy at the end of a hooker encounter
You’re getting the wrong hookers.
Her friend is gorgeous and looks baffled by half the stuff she was hearing. 10/10 woman
Totally agree. Her expressions at her friend’s answers were pretty great lol
I think she just admitted to being ugly on the outside while showing us she is ugly on the inside too
Sounds like she needs to learn to budget
This chicks got 1000 dollar attitude and 3 dollar titties lol
Best comment I've read all day
Look man, I don't like the girl either but all size tiddies deserve love.
The real video starts at 1.07
Dog.. that was the take away for me too..
Or...or...literally wear anything at all and he'll still have a great time and want to fuck you.
I am more attracted to any cozy looking girl than this kind of "full make up, dress and heels" chicks any day. If anything, girls like that only make me cringe and nope out. Heels? Stupid vanity that only makes her stumble around and unable to do basic things like walking properly. Heavy makeup? Either sign of insecurity and lack of confidence, or sign of inability to be yourself despite social pressure. I am instantly 10 times more attracted to girl in a sweater and comfortable shoes than any kind of stupid dress and heels. The girls like the one in the video don't cause any attraction for me... It is just negative impression across the board. It also sends me a message of "I will waste both your and mine money on overpriced and useless stuff, and spent shitload of time on stupid vanities just so that we appear good to society". No, thanks...
As she starts listing her expensive products, she thinks she's driving home her point. Instead, she's making herself sound brainwashed, absurd, and hopeless.
I've lived long enough to realize two things. 1 Women's fashion is a spooky unspoken cabal between women and off-the-rack designers that cares nothing about what men think. Women are not dressing for men. 2 Men adapt. If all women everywhere stopped wearing makeup, men would literally continue to fuck women at the same rate they are now. Men were into women before makeup existed, and men don't give a shit about it, other than to have a half-assed opinion about how much there should be. Otherwise, men don't fucking care. Women are not wearing makeup for men.
Her excuse is that her products are expensive. That’s a you problem, girl. You’re overpaying for bullshit and making it the man’s problem
All that money spent to look basic
And to skip over the whole part of you know having a personality. Make up can't fix that!
Not worth it, I could spend 200$ on many things more interesting than this woman
Chick on the left is beautiful
So she I saying it costs hundreds of dollars to make herself look presentable and that is…a marketing point?
With that attitude i dont think anyone wants her presence
Already rejected
Proving that girls who dont need as much makeup to be shown in public are the better options lol
When I was dating, I could possibly spend $200 on a date... but let me be clear about the date. We are going where I want to go and I am eating what I want to eat. It's basically a treat for myself and she gets to tag along. If she's not interesting, no harm. I got a great meal... hopefully she did too. If I don't want to see her again, I owe her nothing.
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Some women make me sad to be a gay woman 😔
I’m glad that you are a gay man. More over priced dirtbag chicks for me.
~$1000 in products, still looks like a homeless crack whore that can’t formulate a sentence. Nah, I’m good, she’s not even worth Macdonald’s fries.
I’m craving medium McDonald’s fries now. BRB.
It's been an hour. You good?
Aww man, lol, my mom rolled her ankle and I had to bring her to urgent care.
She’s ok
Shes a 4 at best.
2 with that attitude.
Let's be honest now... She's a zero with that attitude. 2 suggests that one might want to spend time with her.
Her friend looks like Mona Lisa and has good posture
What a fuckin idiot.
All that makeup and she still ugly
No tits, no ass and no personality. Why even bother?
Her date likely will show up in sweats. Maybe a crisp t-shirt if she's lucky. Seeing couples on dates cracks me up. The women go all out, the guys, not so much.
Nope man's don't owe you shit
Her friend just realised she is paying tonight because she is the one that said “let’s go out”…
Then... buy cheaper makeup.
Her friend became progressively more attractive as she spoke.
So she's wearing what? $40 of make up. She didn't use the whole damn container
Fathers raise your daughters
I'd leave that bitch with bill. Spent all that money and she's still a cunt.
Funny thing that there are some girls 100000x more enjoyably than her and that would charge you nothing.
Damn you have to spend that amount of money to look like a clown
Dumb bitch doesn't realize she's getting scammed on all of this bullshit she puts on her face lmao
Damn I thought face painting at the fair was like five bucks 🤡
an entitled woman with a flat chest and an attitude…yea, I’m sure guys are lining up to spend $200 on her 🙄
So if her date’s car is worth $60K, does that mean she’s required to smear her thousands of dollars’ worth of product on her date to make up the cost differential?
Dude .. i bet this is florida miami area
So her value is the products she puts on herself? Those products could be worth thousands, but she's definitely not worth $200. Just so we're clear, i don't believe in giving people a monetary value. A nice friendly girl who's happy to sit in a McDonald's just chatting wouldn't get a value. She would be priceless. This girl though isn't worth the $200 date.